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 Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 9:49pm On Jan 18, 2013 |
Goshen360: @ anukulapo,That is the format for the Divine order of spiritual authority. God hath no head(not under any authority--no one can subject God) and the woman also hath no one under her (in terms of divine authority). |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 9:08pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
MostHigh: HumbledbYGrace all the nazarites john the bapitst, yashua son of joseph, samsom, sameul,joseph.... in the bible kept log hair are they a disgrace to us??It is required of nazrines to allow their hair grow. The jews practised a lot of religious rites. Even the apostle Paul joined in some of these practices. See Acts 21:23-26 (just saying--i'm making no issue out of this) |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 3:16pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
Goshen360: Well, as far as this thread is concerned, I have a 'silent' notion about you and anukulapo but I might be wrong though and that's why I'm not talking about that because I don't want to just jump to conclusion.Goshen,You have the right to hold any notion about anybody and you are wise to keep it silent because you might be wrong. Good of you  In as much as we have different beliefs (not only us but a universal doctrinal difference which is in the body of christ), I am willing to go your way. Take the issue the way you want it (bible exposition or otherwise) and let's see how far we can go. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 5:51pm On Jan 16, 2013 |
Goshen360: I can't understand why you are so keen or demanding on direct answers without any biblical explanations. Oh, you just want me to say what you want to hear or what you don't like to hear. Anyway, like I said earlier, I will treat this subject with biblical explanation and not what is obtainable in traditions of men.I am not ruling out scripture authority. I am only saying no matter the scripture you try to explain,we won't be at accord because the end of your explaination will be opposite of mine. It is simple,direct answers to the questions will be the practice of what you believe from the interpretations you get from the scripture. I am not surprised that you can't give answers to the question raised. By now, many readers must have seen the trend from your post that you can't answer the questions because... Let me not distract you abeg, can you answer the questions and proceed to justifying your stand (the answers to the question) by your biblical explaination? That's fair enought. Otherwise  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 11:08am On Jan 16, 2013 |
Ubenedictus: d ones i knw must remove their caps at a certain point during worshipAt a "certain" point you say--if it is done universally in the RCC,it would mean the moment (what ever the moment signifies) requires such (removing of their caps). Well,I don't know much about the RCC doctrines but thanks all the same. I was only responding to Joagbaje's comment about it being a costume and I made further comments. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 10:09am On Jan 16, 2013 |
I am not clear sir . You have been using too many words for just "4" direct questions   . Many of the questions just requires a YES/NO (with little explaination like mine as seen from the quote below). Be bold to give your answer with direct and little explaination if need be. anukulapo: A direct answer to your question as pasted above is YES!, a woman should put scarf on (as you and see evidently in all the C1 churches around you.)I will be so blessed if you provide direct answers to the questions. As for this "I WONT ANSWER BASED ON WHAT IS OBTAINABLE IN MY CHURCH BUT WHAT IS OBTAINABLE FROM THE SCRIPTURES..." I reserve my comment till after you have given answers to my questions.  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 10:41pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
1) Do all women in your church have scarfs/veils/hat on all through your worship service in your church? By that i mean is it an obtainable general standard in your church? 2) Do all men in your church have hat/cap on all through your worship service in your church? By that i mean is it an obtainable general standard in your church? 3) Do you, Bro Goshen (as a man) always have hat/cap on all through your worship service in your church." ** If your answer to question 3 is NO, please answer question 3b** 3b) Do you sometimes have cap/hat on during or all through the worship service in your church--maybe by a reason of the attire you have on. I repeat my question from my recent post as number 4. 4) Why then do men in C2 not dress freely and commonly with caps on as it fits their attire? (so that it would be as evident as it is in C1 that women are always on scarfs/hats) Have mercy on this thread Goshen  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 10:30pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Goshen360: 1 Corinthians 11:3This is a never ending story titled "stucked with goshen". Na applied maths you study for this your equation na strong hold oooo Let me attemp it.1 Corinthians 11:3 Head of man = Christ........equ. 1 Head of women = man.........equ. 2 Head of Christ = God........equ. 3 Now, the verse 15 says "woman have (long) hair to cover her head".............equ. 4 Substituting equation 2 into equation 4, "woman have (long) hair to cover her The new equation will be "woman have (long) hair to cover her man"--- I am still trying to understand this new equation you want me to form from your own logic o.... "Long hair is given to a woman as a cover for her MAN"---Na this your own equation i no come understand. A covering for her husband? like a duvet  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 6:47pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
@Goshen You are so cunny in your way. I give it to you. let me say in the part A of solving this issue (the scripture part) you have done excellently (I choose to give it to you). Now to the part B which is practicing what you preach. Let me use logic to explain it (so that even athiest and everyother reader;skilled or unskilled in the scripture) can understand my question to you. Maybe we(rather you) will need the help of logicboy to simplify the logic of what I am asking you .logic: If A. Covering=hair Then B. Covering ≠ cap/veil. And C. Long hair(covering) = (for) women So D. Short hair = (for) men If the above holds true,So it can be established that the issue is not about cap/veil but about long/short hair. The hair being the covering is the bases for C2 women being free to use veil/hat OR not use veil/hat. If the above statement be TRUE, and The logical explaination above (A,B,C,D) be TRUE also; Question 1: Why then do men in C2 not dress freely and commonly with caps on as it fits their attire? (so that it would be as evident as it is in C1 that women are always on scarfs/hats) Answer this and answer the 4 other question you have refused to answer since ELSE, I also stop responding to your post and leave readers to judge from the quality of our debates. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 6:17pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Image123: the premises of the eternity of the Dbases and the elderlike pants-pulling exercise. what happened to them sir? Be explicit please. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 4:16pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
@August_Rush One truth that You must accept is that is as bad as being religious (which you accuse me of). If a list is to be made of NLders that are knowledgeable, You'll agree with me that my name will not come up first 10 and probably first 20. Our Lord preached and taught about the love of God but never failed to warn us about false prophets--neither did he even spare to rebuke them face to face (even so the apostles with-stood them sometimes--steven,Peter...) The thread is just a mirrow into the life of the members C2 groups on NL that would take on anybody that dare says that women should have scarfs on. Thereby,we have seen that many of them do not practice what they teach--and worse,they trample;by way of mockery anyone that says otherwise of their teachings on NL (if you have not,please visit this source thread and see how it evolved (https://www.nairaland.com/1120261/why-christian-men-remove-cap) Your kind of post have been cloak for brother Goshen to wrap up himself in his inability to accept that he practice just opposite of what he affirms and lead people to believe as concerning this head covering doctrine. Even at that,I will still praise him again for confessing that "I do not wear hat/cap but if I do..." However,i will encourage you to take brother Goshen's counsel as posted below "...as much as I see some good points you have said, let us also take as we are trashing out some issues of our faith perhaps we can expose somethings hidden". Find the truth (in all things concerning godliness) and hold on to it;even in the face of ridicle. be yoked with the right yoke than to be set at a so called "liberty" and despise sound doctrines. See 2 tim 4:1 - 4. Be encouraged in the truth. Stay blessed. @Brother Goshen, I am sure that in the course of the many teachings you and other knowledgeable NLder have been dishing, you would have seen people who strain at a gnat and swallow a camel. Well... I am still shocked at your approach to this thread and the question it raises. I am seeing it as though you have brought yourself out (on this thread) so much that you just can't walk away anymore. So for your sake,I will not answer your prankish question (since you said you would quit the thread if I don"t give my final answer--i want to use this to open a small window of this thread for you to "sneak out" if you want to ).You are not omniscient you know? and this is a public thread and ofcourse would be on NL's Dbase forever. If you quit,please,leave a "quit note" on your way out  and shake another C2 tag team member (preferably brother frosbel) to come and help you C2 out.I am sure even Logicboy can see the truth in this logical shocking question i posted to you all. Till I hear from you again. Cheers |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 11:07am On Jan 15, 2013 |
Maintain the honour you have on NL sir. I think you should just go ahead and answer the question. I am sure many people are waiting on you so as to learn as usual. If you continue with this beating around the bush approach, then I cannot but agree with image that you are loosing form. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 2:17pm On Jan 14, 2013 |
Dear Bro Goshen, I hope i am quoting you right. if yes, Please allow me to answer you in your way of response from this thread https://www.nairaland.com/1155998/restitution-christs-teaching-church-old/2 Answer the question I asked you and stop Regards. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 11:38am On Jan 14, 2013 |
"Tell us if men in your church and even yourself do have hat/cap on all through your worship service in your church." If you have answered the question above from my original post (by simply typing YES / NO / MAJORITY or FEW DO), then you would have justified all the explaination and claims that you may be trying to make. Hence,there won't be need to re-explain the 1 cor 11 scripture or any other related scripture. By your deeds, we would have known your true stand on the matter (and the interpretation of the scripture) We C1 (concervatives) and you C2 (liberals) I must commend you at least for coming forth to say "I do not wear hat/cap..." because atleast now, we can seperate what you do from what you teach unlike my other brothers (obadiah, deebrain, joagbaje, jezuspoa, bidam). I have not gotten the position of brother frosbel on this issue and I know he is still active on nairaland as seen on other threads. I do not wear hat/cap but if I do, it won't mean a sin nor anything against scriptures. If it is right not to wear a cap/hat and wrong to wear it, then it would be a sin (it may not be a sin leading to death). If you agree with the fact that all unrighteousness is sin and it surely would be against the scriptures. It is not a law as the church or the Apostles DO NOT HAVE SUCH TRADITIONS (1 Cor. 11:16). The above statement sir justifies both C1 and C2 so you have no special claim to it until preceeding verses have been cleared out. Since it is obtainable in C2 that in every of your gathering "Some women wear scarf and some don't", I was expecting the same to hold for the men too---that in every of your gathering "some men wear hat/cap and some don't" but it seem not so (if it is so,please correct me) Okay, should a woman put scarf on or not....to cover her hair? A direct answer to your question as pasted above is YES!, a woman should put scarf on (as you and see evidently in all the C1 churches around you.) Now, you may also wish to follow my example and answer these questions again. 1) Do all women in your church have scarfs/veils/hat on all through your worship service in your church? By that i mean is it an obtainable general standard in your church? 2) Do all men in your church have hat/cap on all through your worship service in your church? By that i mean is it an obtainable general standard in your church? 3) Do you, Bro Goshen (as a man) always have hat/cap on all through your worship service in your church." ** If your answer to question 3 is NO, please answer question 3b** 3b) Do you sometimes have cap/hat on during and all through the worship service in your church--maybe by a reason of the attire you have on. Sir, please, try giving direct answers and don't bother explaining what the scripture says anymore--that is what we are trying to establish (by what we both practice not what we say the scripture says) Thanks. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 11:45pm On Jan 13, 2013 |
Bidam: [/b]@ the emboldened i don't know and i really don't care anyway..i just pointed out a fact you missed that i saw him on tv...if u see him when you die don't hesitate to ask him sha..why bother us with such frivolitiesGood to read from you sooner than i thought. I'll commend you because if I were you your shoes too and don't know what to say to the questions I am being asked, i'll play smart and bring up another topic of an ideal situation to just divert the subject of discussion. @ text in red: I hope when the ideal church you described above starts a debate about homosexuals + abortion + other evil appearances in the "church" you won't say they are frivolity issues. (even sisters with so many seductive dresses in the congregation. I hope you won't tell me that God is looking at their hearts and not their dressing because we humans can see their body and such leads to...) @ text in green; Yeah,some are busy feeding the sheeps with junks. Helping them to build with straw. They'll be lucky to have christ in their foundation when their works suffer loss. @text in blue: I am happy you indicated that there is "a kind" of church that christ desires. Not according to your pattern--anything goes,God care less. I thought Moses had to build according to the pattern shown to him--not just anyhow--there's a pattern (don't trip here cos I am not talking about the law but about God having a pattern). And yes,we (You and I) can forget about this attire issue seeing that you cannot answer the question without diversion. I make it a win-win for us but readers are allowed to make their judgement of your personal dessociation from the practice of what you preach. We that believe the bible says men should not have cap,we don't put it on while you that says otherwise have not been putting it on--so why do you think we are wrong? You don't practice what you preach so... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 12:14am On Jan 13, 2013 |
Goshen360: The truth is, if I want to wear a hat/cap, I do and it has nothing with scripture and I will prove that to you in a moment. Besides, have you seen me before and how do you know I remove cap/hat when entering a church - I told you earlier that I/we are the church, not the building so what church are you talking about?. You don't have to elevate the building more that what bible calls the church itself.Sir,I wasn't reading you post upside down. Did you not say "I do not wear hat/cap but if I do,..." And I never said you should do it because your pastor does (and I never said it was in the scriptures either). My point? If you say the scripture is not talking about a literal hat, why don't you dress (english or native) in a way that a cap/hat will fit so that you'll go to church like that consistently? Afterward you can post and say "I practise what I preach-- we are the church, not the building. Simple practical approach. True, I don't know you so I have never seen you taken off your hat before going into the church. I expect that you just simply say "No,I always put on my hat to church and all through the service when ever I am dressed with a hat--and so do all the male in the church(assembly) I worship" That would be a straight answer and not the "ever debate-able" scripture references. Saying you should wear it up to 6 times is like saying you should forgive 70x70 time. It's easy to explain scriptures you know--just practise it and tell us that you did. ...wearing a hat/cap commit anything against scriptures or does such person sin?--Same question image123 asked you but you didn't answer him--so I won't answer you either. Sorry though. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 11:45pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
Bidam: lies..lies.. late Archbishop Benson Idahosa always wears a cap while preaching..used to watch him on TV....u can confirm it from others...Happy you played into this side. Now to the fashion of my question, If the father of pentecostalism as he is called ALWAYS (from your post) wears a cap(like the ranks of catholic bishops and cardinals), then does he do it as a matter of choice or as in the was of the catholic bishops or the Aaron's priesthood? I wonder if it was the scripture that told him to ALWAYS put it on(I don't think he ALWAYS put it on anyways but if he does,then...) or it was a tradition he learnt/developed himself. Ask yourself why other pentecostal pastors (alive) have not been seen in such attire. Bishop Oyedepo is a son-in-faith to him (you can tell me if he has ever worn such).Waiting for the likes of Pst Adeboye, Pst Oritsejafor, Pst Okotie, Pst Oyakilomhe, Pst Adefarasin, Pst S. Adeyemi...to put it on just for once (and eventually you) There are some other things you don't know about Bishop Idahosa's appearance--you should find out. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 6:40pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
Goshen360: I do not wear hat/cap but if I do,From your statement above, I can deduce that; 1) You have never worn a cap/hat during worship service. Even if you dressed with a hat/cap, you removed it before you entered into the church. 2) If your pastor did, during and all through a worship service (praying and prophecying) it might be just once but I wonder what purpose it served. I will accept your stand on the "covering" "veil" "Hat" "Cap" issue if you put on an attire that a cap/hat will be fitting to and have it on all through the service for atleast 6 times in a year--and that, if your pastor does that also. if you don't do(present continous tense) this, I will conclude that you are teaching what you can't practice. Matt 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall DO AND TEACH them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. @Obadiah Please,answer the questions too without quoting scriptures. I'm sure you will read my response to bro Goshen. Thanks. I am still yet to see any male pentecostal pastor put on a cap/hat all through the service;and that, as a regular way of doing. Till then,I reserve my comment. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 8:29pm On Jan 11, 2013 |
Thanks bro Goshen for honouring my thread. I didn't want you to explain the scriptures anymore. I just wanted a straight answers to these question 1) Do you wear hat/cap during your church worship service? 2) Do your pastor(s) wear hat/cap during your church worship service? 3) Are women asked to always use scarf/veil in your church during service always? 4) Are women free to participate in worship service with/without scarf/veil in your church (as they will)? Thanks. I anticipate your response |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Restitution: Christ's Teaching For The Church Or Old Testament Law? by anukulapo: 11:52am On Jan 09, 2013 |
Goshen360: E be like say una dey afraid for this topic huh.You know how e be now bro Goshen. You are needed here www.nairaland.com/1152439/take-it-personal-give-et Give your take on the thread above sir. @frosbel--we no see you there either I hope say "una no dey fear the topic"  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 5:44pm On Jan 06, 2013 |
anukulapo: @jesuzpoa and jo--no need for scriptural reference and back-up NOR history from wikipedia. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 5:38pm On Jan 06, 2013 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 12:07pm On Jan 06, 2013 |
Appearance is A matter of choice but covering has always been a matter of doctrine debate. "...but the bible didn't say so."--this is still subject to debate among we christians. I just want to know if you put on hat/cap in church during service and if men in your church do (including the pastor). Pope and bishops wear cap. It's just costumes.--A religious costume that they will not by choice come on the altar without--no,not by choice. They'll always have something on their head. |
| Christianity Etc › Take It Personal And give your Answer-- Frosbel, Goshen360, Joagbaje, Etcetera. by anukulapo(op): 4:32pm On Jan 05, 2013 |
While I have no intention of taking my opinion too serious nor to duplicate threads, I wish the subject of "head" "hair" "veil" "covering" be cleared out. Especially in the light of my little pragmatic reasoning/logic. My last post (as re-posted below) from webfocus' thread (https://www.nairaland.com/1120261/why-christian-men-remove-cap ) is the bases for this thread. Tell us if men in your church and even yourself do have hat/cap on all through your worship service in your church With much respect to you all, please, do justice to it. Thanks I choose to believe(note that it is my own opinion) many men (even the liberty professing pentecostals) subconsciously have issues with the "head" "hair" "covering" thing from 1 Cor if not, as they say their ladies are free to use no scarf/hat, they also should be free to put on caps and hats but they rarely do if not never sef. Waiting to see the "big big" pastors and bishops dem from Christ Embassy, Living faith, COZA, C3, Daystar and from even your own church(you NLder that says bible no talk am). Let's see them on TV and let them choose to do so regularly to church if their conscience really is clear to what they profess. They just can't stand for the doctrine nor able to convince women since they see "no covering" as liberty so they chose to say it is. It is happening already---2 Tim 4:3 and 2 Pet 2:19(in any bible translation you like) |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Dont Be Unequally Yoked With Unbelievers!!! by anukulapo: 4:07pm On Jan 05, 2013 |
deshysmalls: Well its been a while since i read my bible but if i hear correctly i think its UNEQUALLY i stand to be corrected shaYeah,that's how the bible(king james version) puts it. I'm just trying to make US come our of king james' grammatical box(it's not twisting of the scripture,it's just correction of the grammar--so it should not be hard to swallow) It should be "...be ye unequally yoked..." OR "...be ye not equally yoked..." Just passing sha. No big deal attached. |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Dont Be Unequally Yoked With Unbelievers!!! by anukulapo: 10:04pm On Jan 03, 2013 |
Do you mean "don't be equally yoked with unbelievers"? Just asking anyways--na kings james english sha. LOL |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I Will Fight Against This LIE by anukulapo: 7:21pm On Dec 29, 2012 |
Ymodulus: lol! o boy na jaogbaje dey talk like dis?Somebody must have hacked is I'd. It's so unlikely of him. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I Will Fight Against This LIE by anukulapo: 6:49pm On Dec 29, 2012 |
Joagbaje: Why should we be afraid to talk about hell. Jesus talked about hell@Joagbaje Is it ok to say that was old testament;before jesus died. *just kidding anyways* na true you talk sha @frosbel: you are begining to sound like the jehovah witness ppl. Abi u be JeWi Lol |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christian Men Remove Their Cap In Church? by anukulapo: 12:03am On Dec 28, 2012 |
Image123: i would answer your question, but please answer. When a man is praying or prophesying in church gathering, if he wears a cap.....is it aYeah goshen,I think this mirrowed question by image123 is worth pondering upon. I choose to believe(note that it is my own opinion) many men (even the liberty professing pentecostals) subconsciously have issues with the "head" "hair" "covering" thing from 1 Cor if not, as they say their ladies are free to use no scarf/hat, they also should be free to put on caps and hats but they rarely do if not never sef. Waiting to see the "big big" pastors and bishops dem from Christ Embassy,Living faith,COZA,C3, and from even your own church(you NLder that says bible no talk am). Let's see them on TV and let them choose to do so regularly to church if their conscience really is clear to what they profess. They just can't stand for the doctrine nor able to convince women since they see "no covering" as liberty so they chose to say it is. It is happening already---2 Tim 4:3 and 2 Pet 2:19(in any bible translation you like) 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Give Me Any Evidence That God Doesn't Exist And I Will Prove You Wrong by anukulapo: 8:14am On Dec 26, 2012 |
ooman: 6. Nothing can exist forever in the same state except energy, so there is no eternity because energy does not have consciousness.The exception of energy (as pointed out by science) from the list of things that cannot exist forever in the same state only proves that God can and actually does exists forever and changeth not.Mal 3:6, Ps 90:2 |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Believers Should Speak In Tongues by anukulapo: 11:11pm On Dec 24, 2012 |
@op "you don't pick out only what suit you in scriptures leaving out the other." If you really believe your statement as quoted above, then you should read 1 cor 14:4 that you quote in full and not just the first part. Seek rather to edify the church than yourself (though I forbid not to speak in tongues) for self is a member of the church not vice-versa and christ died for the church not and individual self. Just passing by though. 3 Likes |
