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Bidam: The question is can a christian be disconnected and not know it?

I don't get? Is this question related to the parable of the virgins or the JOY concept?

Bidam: From my point of view i believe Jesus is talking about salvation.

You are correct. He is talking about salvation.

^^ hum,good one...but in one of his parables,the virgins didn't share nor lay down their life for the other(s). Abi?

Kanwulia: I'd rather be a FEMALE CHAUVANIST! I can't STAND weak women who decide to get married only to BREEEEED MORE 'DISH-RAGS" with RECYCLED, DOUCHE-BAGS like YOU!
Please, address your class of BUSHMEATS!
Thanks!

I understand your condition. Don't worry,help is on the way and I'll keep praying for you.

For some time now,I've heard people teach that for a blessed order of life,our commitment should be in this order: Jesus, Others, and Yourself (JOY)...saying this brings joy.

Though the concept seem beautiful and reasonable but I have learnt that not everything that sounds "spiritual" is necessarily scriptural or true.

The concept need not be wrong NOR right but I just want us to share opinions and point to teachings from the scripture that support or teach otherwise (maybe applicable in different situations and not as an absolute rule)

I know that we are admonished to love our neighbours as ourselves (not more than ourselves). LOL

...But,what saith thou?

Kanwulia: Obviously, you can't fit in as a WOMAN! It is obvious you are dealing with MALE chauvinists. You can never fit in such a primitive clan of BROTHERS who feel women should be seen and not heard! I bet you have fulfilled your JOB as a woman, aka "open your nyansh, PHOCk and BORN! You did not have any recognition prior to getting married, why should you expect that now?
It is obvious you feel like someone did you a HUGE favor by getting married to you!
You don't sound like you were happy as a SINGLE INDIVIDUAL!!!!

If you were smart, you would find your own friends and limit your associations with such PRIMITIVE BY AVOIDING THEM!!!!!
Please, work on your self-esteem! To earn respect, YOU NEED TO RESPECT YOURSELF FIRST!!!!

The last place you will find me is in the company of MY HUSBAND'S family OR FRIENDS! I avoid them!

No other better to help a hurting wife against "MALE chauvinists" than a FEMALE chauvinist like you.
Read the OP's post well again. The issue is not that the men are shutting her up,it is that she is not able to contribute...

[quote author=tpia@]Obama should be fighting for his wife's attention, not the other way round.[/quote]...Because?

Danhumprey: I don't know why too many people seem to place too much emphasis on the church one attends. It won't be a guarantee to your making Heaven. What matter is the state of your heart,your spiritual devotion. Your salvation and sanctification is what matter. If you found out that the doctrines of the church you attend,can impede your going to Heaven,then quit that church and start attending a Bible-believing church. If you think no church meet up to the standard set by the Bible,then stay at home and meditate on God's word. You don't have to attend a church in order to make Heaven. So to your question,the church you attend,doesn't guarantee that you would make Heaven or not.

From your post,I'll rather say that the church you attend (though not in itself) would determine whether you'll make it or not because of the reasons you stated in your post.
The "truth",practices,doctrines...that you heart would definitely mould ones faith and fate.

phanthomz: Im not a feminist, bt i simply beleive in myself. As much as im a submissive wife, i rub minds wit my hubby ova any decision we make as a family and he loves me d way i am. Cant imagine being a woman who doesnt av a say.

And yes women are actually stronget than men. 1. We are homozygous xx in genotype. Dat makes us stronget dan an heterozygous xy male. Maybe u dnt knw but over 80% of still born and miscarried babies are males. Why? Dy aint so genetically resilient.
2. As a man, can u bleed for 5 days, av cramps for 3 days, carry a baby in ur womb for 9 months ( its like putting ur 15 inches laptop strapped to ur tummy everyday both nite, day, in d shower, bus, toilet and everywhr for 9months) and still cook, clean, make love (with d strapped laptop), go to work, and care for a partner who jst goes to work and comes home to rest without aving to bother about house work. Can u do dat for ?
3. Can u smile, and do laundary, cook, care for and make luv to a partner who is cheating on u? Are u even emotionally strong?
4. Can u hit a man who is ur size? U only hit women because most times u are larger than dem and dy av even been defeated mentally b4 d abuse starts.
5. Why do u think women live longer dan men? because even thru d wear and tear of caring for others, they are more resilient and therefore live longer.
I could go on and on. Bt in d end, i thank God im a woman. A strong one for dat matter. Wouldnt pray to be anything else.

Register a new NL handle and read your post. You'll know exactly what you sound like. You're judging yourself by your intention not weighting your action (reaction).

I have your kind of person as a friend and really (such ability of aggression) is the little effect of the Y chromosome(being born of a man) (undeniably).

To help you with the list you made about the "strength" of female, most of them are peculiar to your gender and you were given the strength to bear them by nature and not that you acquired the strength by yourselves else some women won't face so much during childbirth to the extent of death (MENstruation,childbearing pains and related matters) and some others the effect of the punishment given to the woman (Eve) for taking the place of (authority and decision making) before Adam therefore the female was rightly subjected to the male (and so shall it be till the end of time)
"You will suffer terribly when you give birth yet You will still desire your husband and he will rule over you" -- Gen 3:16

What womankind should learn to do is to cope with this sentence and the path they have (sufficient for men are the punishment issued by God which a woman CAN'T understand nor can they bear. Just as women think men don't and can't understand what they go through nor can men bear their numerous burden as evident in your post which has being passed down by feminist from generation to generation).

I'll advice you look within and objectively to the roles of each gender. They are either equal or one is subject to the other.

BRB

Arosa: Abi o, women don't have Y chromosome they only have XX.

I agree with you. This is what education (scientific enlightenment) can help solve BUT unfortunately, the OP's topic is not who determines a child's gender but the "speciality" of the male gender so...

@ Goshen
...But wait o,this law thing, which is it? The 10 commandments OR the other ones found in across the pages of leviticus, numbers, deuteronomy OR both of them combined?

[quote author=Area-Fada].

Not necessarily true dear.

If a boy doesn't come, it's not the woman's fault. But to say that a male is not important in the family is to demonstrate an astounding disconnect with our African culture in favour of Western culture that promises a lot but delivers little.

Here the European country in live in, over 55% of my work colleagues have divorced at least once already. Some are going through their third divorce and they're not even 50 yet.

So it's not exactly the romance/matrimonial el dorado that our African women believe the lax Western culture offers.

If it happens that a boy is not forthcoming, you would do well to lovingly explore how your man is taking it.

I have several male relatives, some have 3, 4 or 6 daughters, no sons. They are all quite happy.[/quote]Worse,it's not just an African culture thing. Read it on the faces of the holy book and read between the lines.
These feminist are not actually against men (men are just unfortunately the receptor of their out burst) they are against God for making such order.

Lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Look at what i woke up to this morning.

Na for NL religion section you dey do morning devotion? LOL

fellis: Very inspiring post. I commend your dad for all he did, men like him are rare and special.

The bold part of your post is what I don't agree with sha......too much generalization in it.

You can't expect less from a feminist whose thought is to win the favour and approval of women. Much generalization in favour of women.
A right standing man would point to many lovely and appreciable facts about having a woman/women around and in His life but he's also know a man's peculiarity (if he's intelligent, diligent and objective enough)

[quote author=tpia@]Well, you say you're male, tell us what's special about you.[/quote]Expected. A typical tackle from a female -- "a woman right activist"
So tell us,what's your take? Are male and female equal OR the female is superior to the male?
Judges,please standby.

Olugbenger: You are a bad person!

LOL. I'm just joining the "woman right" activist people them. No mind me

jeffizy: Please get with the flow and don't assume!
What do I mean by quality of life?

I mean having a life worthy of emulation and commendation.
For better understanding, check NELSON MANDELA .
He's gone now but everyone misses him. If his children refuse to build on such legacy, how does that concern Madiba where he is now?

Of course,there's nothing he can do about it but applying your former statement to Mandela's case would be like Mandela saying "there's no point fighting apethied. Who knows whether South Africans would up hold the struggle when I die? " So he should just live a quality life for himself.

Olugbenger: Hate or like it, the male race would always remain superior until women become men.

LOL. What a condition.
It's not by choice. The order came to be. I advice all to embrace their cross and accept the things they can't change.

fellis: Na you sabi o, me I don't care whether people fvck and go free or fvck and go to prison. I am only interested in women living their lives how they please without having to 'submit' to another person for all eternity or put up with his cheating under the excuse that men are naturally polygamous.

Yea,better start a crusade for women not to have to "submit" to another being. Maybe you should advance it and demand for a known feminine figure among the deities-- The mother, God the father, the daughter, the son, then the holy spirit. It will help the gender balance and women liberation movement since women are being marginalized.

frosbel: Apologies, was meant to be a joke !

That's a rough tackle. You have one and a half yellow card.

Goshen360: I know you're always sincere because you and I have had discussion before. Now, lemme split your posts:

why do I have to be threaten with a curse of not bringing it? That tells me, both are not the same. It should be by my own free and that's what the new testament clearly supports.

Thanks for acknowledging such. I believe you are also out for good -- the true gospel.
You will agree with me that either pro or anti, grievous wolves have infiltrated the ranks. Why will they not issue threats?

Goshen360: Obviously, you don't understand my question in the start - Christ is the foundation (1 Cor.3v11) and everything else, the Apostles built on that foundation not laying again another foundation. In the same manner, If Abraham's tithe is an extension that was formalized in the law, tithe-able items from the spoils of war would have been included in the tithe items. Items from war were never acceptable nor mentioned as tithe-able items before they were not graciously provided by God.

Maybe I didn't BUT I think I do. That's why I said the act of given 10% was accepted and adopted as a gracious giving by Abraham though the source of the materials were spoils BUT as for the status of the law, the content was determined by the God as per his own desired lifestyle for his people. He mustn't take it hook,line and sinker. We should reserve the liberty for him,shouldn't we?

Goshen360: If it is the act\practice of tithe that was adopted and formalized, then the conditions also should be applied. The conditions of those who receive the tithe not working and not having inheritance, the tithers should be allowed to eat their tithes as they deem fit, and in the case of Abraham, the rest 90% should not be held unto by the tither, Abraham returned all and kept nothing because spoils from war doesn't belong to him. All terms and conditions also must apply if the practice\act is to be applied to Christians. WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Like I said earlier, we cannot but let God decide the pattern if Abraham's 100% action should be adopted or about 10% (tithe) of Abraham's action be adopted to form a new practice.

jeffizy: @Expatriate..I would rather think about my quality of life while alive than my lineage after I'm long gone.

That's being selfish. It is like saying "I'll finish the wealth I accumulated while I live than think of my lineage."
Your memory would not be a blessing.

Goshen360: Don't prove to everyone you not capable of answering some intelligent simple question o. We have TWO examples of tithing here now - BEFORE THE LAW AS IN CASE WITH ABRAHAM. Then, the law tithing. Are both of them the SAME even though they both called tithe, my question was born when you people keep saying, the Abraham tithe WAS LATER INSTITUTED UNDER THE LAW. THEN, WHERE DOES THE LAW COMMANDED TITHE FROM SPOILS OF WAR....IF IT WAS ABRAHAM TITHE THAT WAS LATER INSTITUTED IN THE LAW?



It's like saying a house doesn't originated from a foundation. If the tithe under the law does not originated from the Abraham tithe, it cannot be referenced just like Jesus wasn't referring to Abraham tithe under the law, Malachi wasn't reminding and cursing based on Abraham tithe example, it was all reference to the law tithe, why?

You answered the question in your post already. Under the law,it was DEMANDED but Abraham "gave" without being asked to.
Like saying it was recorded that Jesus administered passover meal with his disciples only once so what do we eat it often (yea,I know Luke recorded that he asked his disciples to do it in remembrance of him)?
Though Abraham paid it just once and from spoils of war it doesn't follow that (even under the law) any tithe payer must only pay from spoils of war.
It is the act/practice that was adapted not the pattern of the first practice.

Goshen360: Question: Did God institutionalized Abraham kind of tithe IN THE LAW? That's, the law tithing and Abraham tithe, ARE THE THE SAME IN CONTENT AND COMMANDMENTS?

You are right bro Gosh in as much as you agree that there is the Abraham's kinda tithe though it is diff by the method of application in the law of moses.
It was not left to the people's discretion in Moses but as a levy because it was God's social welfare system for the levites (who were full time ministers and didn't get land inheritance), the widows, orphans and strangers.
However,we must admit that its origin is not the law.
Just as the commandment to love is part of the mosaic law(and even regarded as the greatest commandment in the law by our lord Jesus) and it is also the hanger of the new covenant, thus tithing is pre-law, in the law, in the dispensation of grace also.
Shalom!

frosbel: You contradict yourself, one minute you say the law is abolished ( which includes the tithe by the way ) ,and the next minute you are preaching the law of tithe.

Which one is it, LAW or GRACE ?

Brother,but you should know that the "law of moses" referred to as the law is not the source of tithing even though it was institutionalised in it along with other levies required from the people.

Candour: @the bolded. I did take stock of the messages i heard when i was in one mega faith ministry over the course of 18 months or so. I ensured i bought CD's of messages i couldn't attend, and never once did i hear any talk about heaven, Christ second coming or anything associated with end time study and prophecy.

Not once.

It was what finally convinced me that they had no interest in Christ and the coming kingdom but are only about the material things they could gather here and now, the influence and clout they could wield and how many people they could oppress.

Eternity had no place in their thinking and considerations AT ALL

I am not surprise, I know that too well.

"And MANY shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. "And through COVETEOUSNESS shall they with FEIGNE WORDS make MERCHANDISE of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not" (2 Peter 2:2-3).

Pastor Olu T: I wonder how they get people to do their bidding when obviously what they do is against the scriptures.

It's quite simple. They just keep them ignorant, blinded from the light in the scripture or feed them false teachings.
If you can get to track all their teachings and preaching through a season,you'll see that they will not teach what christ would have termed "weightier matters" of his teachings.

myjobsfinder: but it is always xmas by most people

Then those "most people" are not doing it right. It doesn't take. So many people to be right anyway.
How it play out is that christ had been EX(ed) out of it. X like cancelled out.

I have listened to songs in which I heard words that I could not but think about.
Lines from songs that as ordinary as they sound, they hold much meaning.

Let's make a library of them so that others can draw inspiration from it and perhaps they will become quotes.

Here's a couple of my favorites. You can add yours.


"Human right na my property, so therefore you can't dash me my property" -- Fela Anikulapo Kuti (Beasts o
f no nations)

"I'm tryin not to do Wrong - But they wont let me do right. Even tho I done changed my life criminal records' what They judging me by." -- Akon
(trouble nobody)

"Dear Lord can you hear me, tell me what to say
to my unborn seed in, case I pass away Will my child get to feel love Or are we all just cursed to be street thugs? Cause bein black hurts" -- Tupac (letter to my unborn child)

"Remember, the music in the streets like the
streets, You know the cold of the streets, er'body tryin to eat" -- Wyclef (80 bars)

"They say music can alter moods and talk to you
Well can it load a gun up for you , and cock it too?" -- Eminem (sing for the moment)

"Read the directions, even if you don’t follow them." -- Baz Luhrmann - Everybody's Free (To Wear Sunscreen)

myjobsfinder: As the xmas season is once again here, i know in the spirit of the season people will be looking for xmas carols here and there, some will even pay someone to do it for them when the phone in your hand is stocked with enough data bundle.

Check it out here: http://www.allbloggersblog.com/2013/12/list-of-popular-xmas-carols-where-and.html

It's CHRISTmas, not Xmas.

ATMC: I have two questions;
1) why do guys fear loosing a girl they love to another guy even when the girl promises to stay with him throughout, yet they keep proffessing fear, plz why? i thought they are strong and its we girls that ought to be afraid in r/ship.
2) what should a girl do to make you as a guy believe that she has chosen to be with you all the way even if situation changes?

Just like jealousy,the "insecurity" feeling is a natural reaction for most men.
I advice you find out his love language and relate with him in such way. Everyone has one.
2) Don't let him fell bad about his insecurities nor talk to him about it. It will die naturally.
Cheers.

Ukuts gp: they should nt send them home cos they can hear d word of God and be change. But if u send them home they can remain hardened.

For first timers and new converts,it's understandable. There are congregations where such is a practice and there is little or nothing done/said about it.
In such environ,it is common,thus it seem normal and nothing comes from the leadership because...nothing from the shepherd "...profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" (2 Timothy 3:16).