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Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op): 7:37pm On Oct 24, 2017
NairaMinted:
Folks still can't tell Hollywood and the real world apart. Perhaps we should ask them if indeed these Amerikan weapons are superior, why several countries -including the biggest NATO member outside of Amerika, Turkey - are buying these Russian weapons and hailing them as the weapons of choice.
On even on the simplest level of weaponry: why is the AK the most fearsome, manufactured and respected firearm on the planet, to the point that at least two countries have got them on their national flags?


I give kudos to Hollywood though, they have done one hell of a fine job with the brainwash
The most effective weapon in the hands of the enemy is propaganda - Malcom X.

There is nothing more I can say. Hollywood has done a marvelous job. The zombification is terrific! Otherwise, how do one explain that US weaponry are the best but NATO allies are buying Russian made weapons. Now, that's another logical thought our friends at the other end can't fathom. To them, Commando and Rambo represent the reality.

Let's hail Hollywood.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op): 7:25pm On Oct 24, 2017
NairaMinted:
Komrade Appleyard, I'll leave it to the "Amerika Is Great Fanboys" to provide an explanation while I sip on vodka here. There's one of them in particular that is always ranting about his hatred for Trump and labeling us, Putin admirers, HAC. Is he still on here asking about how people in opposition to his viewe live and all that?
Great comrade, intention taken. Facts don't lie, especially when they are logical. So far, they have failed to logically unraveled why the IDF and the Jewish media are claiming that the f35 only went unserviceable as a result of a bird collision that happens two weeks ago? Why are they reporting it now if the f35 wasn't part of the operation following the Syrian statement? grin At times I wonder why some people can't think independently..

Are people this blind that they can't see the loopholes?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op): 7:16pm On Oct 24, 2017
illitrate:
The statement said serviceable at that moment. boeing needed to be brief and arrangements made. An f35 did not take part in that operation
the israelis are not stupid.

Where was the s200 when the syrian airport was bombed by f16s
where were the s200 when the weapons meant for hezbollah were bombed
where was s200 when all the israeli airstrike were going on in syria?
This is just another stupid avenue for anti israeli/american propaganda just like the fallaciously concocted Donald cook propaganda.
I believe you have read the entire piece. Ask yourself, if an f35 wasn't involved, why was the Zionist media referring to the collision gist claiming it happened two weeks ago? Besides, why were they suddenly reporting the bird collision now despite alledging it happened two weeks ago.? Use your logic naaa a.

And yes, Israeli media did report that after the alleged bird collision, the plane went 'unserviceable'. I repeat "unserviceable". cool

So tell me, can a bird make such a plane unserviceable? Just wondering. cool
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op): 7:12pm On Oct 24, 2017
illitrate:
The statement said serviceable at that moment. boeing needed to be brief and arrangements made. An f35 did not take part in that operation
the israelis are not stupid.

Where was the s200 when the syrian airport was bombed by f16s
where were the s200 when the weapons meant for hezbollah were bombed
where was s200 when all the israeli airstrike were going on in syria?
This is just another stupid avenue for anti israeli/american propaganda just like the fallaciously concocted Donald cook propaganda.
I believe you have read the entire piece. Ask yourself, if an f35 wasn't involved, why was the Zionist media referring to the collision gist claiming it happened two weeks ago? Besides, why were they suddenly reporting the bird collision now despite alledging it happened two weeks ago.?

What have they not tried to cover before now? Do you know how many times Israel have denied their planes have been downed in Syria?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op): 6:55pm On Oct 24, 2017
bonechamberlain:
sure its totally of Israel's making, but so much hype and propaganda surrounds it. if low flying unreliable rockets from hamas can penetrate it, how much iskander.
I gat your drift. Israel has a history of good weaponry, but like you said, anything can happen.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op): 8:05pm On Oct 22, 2017
bonechamberlain:
. grin if they aren't careful, their overhyped iron dome would disgrace them also soon.
Israel's Iron dome is entirely of Israel making. But if it comes from America, it's 95% certain that it will fail because it's build on propaganda. cool
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op): 6:27pm On Oct 22, 2017
Scholes007:
Russian Propaganda. Over the years the superiority of American weapons has been proven beyond doubts. May be you should read about US sub,or defense system too an see how your toy will go.
Russian propaganda or US propaganda? The vehicle that drives the American foreign policy and MIC is based on pure proganda.

Did I hear you say US Sub or Defense system? grin Don't make me laf.. grin while you can give them the nod on subs, most of their defense system is built around hype and pure propaganda.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op): 6:18pm On Oct 22, 2017
illitrate:
Keep dreaming. So your almighty s200 hits a jet and allow it to escape. hahaha grin

That mission was not a mission for the f35 so couldn't have been there.
Really? When your IDF is trying hard to cover the whole thing?, grin My brother, ask yourself: can a bird damage a $400 billion worth plane, and make it completely unserviceable ? O boy use your medulla naaa grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op): 6:10pm On Oct 22, 2017
Ikio:
get ur facts ryt u can go read history. if israel could be able to give the sinai as a sacrifrice for peace do which is twice d size of israel, u knw that place also have alot of minerals like natural gas only 4 it to become an anti-israel terrorist den why not d golan height this is because of the if israel does that they are fools. AND YES SYRIA ALWAY DREAM TO DESTROY ISRAEL.
What are you yarning? Was Sinai originally Israel's? Sinai had always been Egyptian territory, right from the biblical time. So your excuse doesn't hold water. The Golan Height brouhaha today is all about minerals and oil, apart from territorial claims.

No. Syria is a secular state, though it has its problem with Israel, but how many nations in the middle east doesn't?

Presently, the real threat to Israel is Iran, not Syria.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op):
Zoharariel:
Iran should have - atleast shot 3 of those burger-eating soldiers in the neck & display their corpses on PressTv for the world to see, while claiming It was an accident or mistake. grin

If Amerika is not crazy, they left their territorial waters in New York & Florida and strayed into the Iranian waters on Farsi Island - claiming their boat had faults. cheesy

“On the 38th anniversary of the Iranian Islamic Revolution, teenagers were dressed like American sailors and held in a submissive manner to simulate the arrest of American sailors”. Hahahahahahaaaa! grin cheesy grin
OH Babylon, how art thought fallen.. .. I am writing a funeral song for the United States of Abomination, Abomicity and Abomilocal government. When am through, the Russian tsunami-causing missile can take it from there according to Alois Irlmaiar's prophecy and wipe out half of England, sink Los Angeles and destroy New York and Washington.
The mouth of the cosmic have spoken it.... cool

Adieu America......

Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op): 10:16pm On Oct 21, 2017
ZandhaZaraZ:
grin grin grin [color=darkgreen]Almighty PAPER TIGER![/color] grin grin grin
Worse than a paper tiger. See the types of soldiers they send to war. No thanks to Iran. cool

Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op): 10:00pm On Oct 21, 2017
Zoharariel:
Don't be stupid (no offense). Let us even assume for a second that the F-35 was not hit by the S-200 but by the bird's collision narrative as being propagated in the Zionist media.

Doesn't your brain tell you that if a $400Billion flying rust-bucket can be rendered unserviceable by a bird collision, then it surely means that the best way to defeating the F-35 flying brick is neither the Russian S-300s nor S-400s - but by a flock of vicious homing pigeons or flamingos.

Hahahahahaaa! grin cheesy grin

Again, a news blackout in the western MSM like CNN & BBC indicates that the axis of evil have indeed taken a huge kick in their scrotum. grin cheesy grin

Where is Missy89, CSTR1000, Mazeltovscotty & that Jewish boy - ValerianSteel? grin cheesy grin
The silence of the people you mentioned is deafening. cool

And as usual, if you want to get the truth about any major event that scratched the hegemonic beard of the western bloc, watch the western media coves. Once you notice a blackout, know the story is true. grin it is their normal way of telling the "truth".. .. .. Hahaha hahaha grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op): 9:41pm On Oct 21, 2017
Ikio:
Lolz u probably don't knw u need the golan height to invade israel, so its very important for israel existent.
You don't need the Golan Heights to invade Israel what happened to the sky and sea, lol? And besides did Syria tell you they want to invade Israel? What for?

The Golan Heights became a major territorial bone of contention between Israel and Syria due to the availability of oil/mineral deposits in it.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op): 9:36pm On Oct 21, 2017
Ikio:
the bitter truth is that it was not hit my a missile, can the blind c?, Lolz u think hezbollah can defeat israel u better think again.
Sorry to disappoint u. The plane was hit big time. What else can stop the f35 from being serviceable. Don't tell me you believe the bird fallacy? I would be disappointed.. grin

Have you forgotten so soon the wound Hezbolla inflicted on Israel in 2006? Go get your facts before u argue. That Israel are God's chosen people doesn't mean they can't lose a war. Get that right.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The World's No. 1 Economy? Not The U.S. by Appleyard(m): 2:30pm On Oct 21, 2017
Zoharariel:
Appleyard of Moskow - Could you help check on “our wife” Missy89.

She's been on ghost mode for over 3 months. grin
Intel briefing from headquarters in Vladivostok suggest that she has been hit over the Syrian sky. Getting her location now is becoming a herculean task. cool
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op):
ZandhaZaraZ:
So American "technical superiority" is a propaganda based on overhyped toys, designed only for pomp and ceremony. Holy Mary. grin
Are you doubting it? cheesy everything about uncle SAM has been a circus show, especially when they're faced with tougher opponents.

Let me refresh your memory a bit. cheesy

1. In 1999, Serbia shot down an American stealth fighter-the f-117 using a 1966 Soviet made SAM. This was followed by the downing of the overhyped B-2 spirit of Missouri, which as usual, they denied, but facts on the ground confirmed it.

2. In 2007, a Chinese song class submarine destroyed the myth that a US fleet carrier cannot be "reach" by enemy subs or ship without being noticed. But that fateful day, the US navy and one of their fleet carrier battle group were conducting a live fire training exercise during which every sensor and computer systems were switched on. The Chinese sub then passed the other ships unnoticed and surfaced right behind the fleet carrier. When the Americans saw it, they were totally disappointed and angry. cheesy

What does it mean? If it were to be in a real war scenario, the Chinese submarine (which was modeled after the Russian kilo Klass sub) would easily have destroyed the entire thing without be noticed. That was how that overhyped and overrated floating Bathroom unreachable myth was solely and effectively dissipated. grin

3. In 2015, the US fleet carrier battle ship, Theodore Roosevelt, was chased by Russian submarines from the black sea after venturing too close to Russian territorial waters. The ship ran away from the Russia subs which were using the alleged Maghreb technology, and anchored by the sea shore of HAMPSHIRE to the surprise of the town people who wake up to see the giant ship gasping for breath right in their backyard. Of course, the unashamed liars said they stopped there because there was no port for them in the town to belt. The question is, why would such a ship with state-of-the-art technology and communications anchor by the sea shore of a town that has no port for it, when there are better ports of call in Manchester and London? grin

A liar is always a liar.

4. In that same year, Iran shot down an Israeli stealth fighter drone-the one that flew over Iran's nuclear site. They also commandeered and captured alive a US stealth drone, which happens to be the most sophisticated in US military arsenals. Even the Chinese came and did a copy of their own from the feast through reversed ENGINEERING. grin

And now, the f35.. .. They keep giving while trying desperately to lie their way out of it. I don't even need to mentioned the useless Patriot missiles that could not even shoot down a single Russian made drone that enters Israeli territory last year. cheesy

So gentlemen, while the US is good in weaponry, their success rates and selling points are based overwhelmingly on propaganda rather than actual test reality.

Don't also forget that back in 2015, there was a NATO TRAINING Section between top NATO ally countries, and during that exercise, the French navy, using a 30-year old submarine, sunk an American fleet carrier, and took some accompying ships with it. cheesy The bad a*s French navy even published the result on their website but removed it after two days to please the US embarrassment.

Now you can see that the same pattern is being played over and over again. When the reality happens, they always look for a way to cover it up, and the gullible are quick to believe it. But logical minds like us don't cause we know how America works. Thriving on propaganda has always been the main theme all along.


Pathetic.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op): 1:00pm On Oct 21, 2017
Ikio:
that's if it was really hit... a war with israel its no joke they can do anything to win becos they must ask Egypt, iraq, yemen,lebanon and many of them. EGYPT fought israel for the sinai and today they can't even keep terrorist out from it my point is syria should not use the golan height as a reason to hate israel becos they hated them from the start...
The Golan Height is an issue but the real reason behind Israel's incursion into Syria is fear of Hezbolla getting stronger. They also want Assad out to pave the way for the pipeline passage. And that's is the primary reason why Russia has intervened.

The plane was hit, period. Even a blind man knew the IDF is trying hard to cover something. cheesy
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op): 12:55pm On Oct 21, 2017
ZandhaZaraZ:
[color=indigo]Napoleon Bonaparte[/color], a superman and a monster. No sane man dare ignores the advice of such a deity. grin
What an epic disgrace across Syria.... grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op):
Zoharariel:
I am sure that those still perceiving Amerika as the world's most powerful military force on Earth must be shitting out their intestines by now - out of fear, failure & disappointments. grin

In the event of any war with Russia, this is how all the Amerikan & NATO flying scraps will be knocked off from the skies by unbeatable sophisticated missile defenses from Russia while CNN & BBC will keep doing their hatchet jobs of covering it up. grin
The Ediots keep showing off their folly for the world to see. If traditional allies and NATO member states like Satan Arabia, Turkey and Greece (who operates the S-300) are gunning for Russian S-400, it is enough for the suicide mission-bound nations who have ordered the f-35 flying coffins to realize that they are simply throwing away their money. If an outdated SAM like the S-200 can spot and score a hit against the f35, one wonder what the S-300 and S-400 would do. No wonder Israel was fiercely and practically begging Russia not to give Syria the S-300.grin I have lost count of how many times Benjamin Netanyahoo has traveled the Moscow route trying to pressure Putin from giving Syria the S-300. Now, we have seen the result and the reasons behind all those trips. grin

What a pathetic bunch.

If the serbians could shoot down an F-117 stealthy jet & a B2-Spirit - another stealth with a Russian S-125 back in 1999, Y then do you think that a brand new state-of-the-art “overrated” fighter jet would be able to cope with a 50year old (1966) Russian SAM (S-200) ? grin cheesy grin

Gentlemen, I have said it times without number that - Russia wins all the time.

Just think & imagine what the Russian S-500 has in-stock for all these overrated flying coffins - including the F-22 Raptors. grin
I command you to withdraw that insult... grin the S-500? When they can't even get past the S-300 and S-400 yet? Why do you think Israel was begging Russia not to give the S-300 to Syria since the brouhaha started? That thing would have got the entire territory of Israel covered and in closed range. Ask yourself, why would a NATO member state like Turkey be gunning for the S-400? Because their military planners knew about its capabilities and how it has been "painting" all US planes flying in Syria sky, and we know the F22 raptor has been flying over there also. cheesy Even the US DoD attested to this fact in one of their complaints about Russia's capabilities in Syria.

So bringing the S-500 to this charade is an insult to the weapon and the alienic brain behind it. cheesy are you not aware that the S-500 can take out satellites in space? The raptor and the f35 fighters are already dead on arrival. Do you know that the F22 raptor flies 7hours in the sky and spend the next 72hours on the ground doing its manicure? grin grin

The US so-called advanced 5th generation fighters are bunch of jokes that would fit in well in Mr Bean comedy shows. The F16, f18 etc,. are way better. cheesy




I only pity Countries such as Australia who have bought or ordered (100 units), Denmark (27 units), Italy (60 units), Japan (5 + 37 additional units), Netherlands 8 + 27 units), Turkey (120 units), South Korea (40 units) & Amerika (1, 763 units planned) of the F-35 coffins & the unfortunate pilots who will fly them. Hahahahahahahahaaa grin cheesy grin

Here in Moskow, we don't play! grin
They have already signed contracts and it's regrettably lugubrous that some human beings will be burying themselves as dead pilots in flying coffins...

As for Russia playing by the rules, no surprise here. Russian weapons are made to work., and work they do. Give it up for the sons of Russia, the alien descendants of Kal El.. .. . cool cool
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op):
Where are the f35 fan boys, huh? Can a bird cause the world most expensive multipurpose fighter "unserviceable" or is only a missile that can do that? grin I need answers oooo dear missy89.

Prey tell, does it add up at all? grin A plane that passed the bird certification test with alleged breathtaking results suddenly became unserviceable after an alleged bird collision which allegedly happened two weeks ago but was being reported now after a Syrian S-200 SAM launched at Israeli fighter planes. grin

Can anybody see the connection here? What a babel... ... . grin

Fineguy11, Bonechamberlain, zoharariel, nairaminted, report to base, cyprus000, marvelous000... .. . I need answers oooo.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op): 10:55am On Oct 21, 2017
Ikio:
syria always getting bombed by israel, i do hope u post that too...
And sometimes their plane has been hit but they keep denying it. Israel has something to worry about in Syria and that's Hezbolla.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op): 10:53am On Oct 21, 2017
seunny4lif:
Even the Israel that got the f35 flying coffin for free, has been complaining about it for long.
Canada rejected it
US overrated military hardwares are just for defenseless nations like Iraq
US should have try NK and let see what will happen
Uncle Sam has a long history of overeating while Russia has a history of "under reporting" the capacity of its hardware. Keeping the enemy curious has always been a pattern in Soviet history. Curiosity cloaks the actual capability, and that's the modus operandi in the traditional military life of Russia. So it wasn't surprising we are seeing the same pattern here. While one side does the showmanship and hype, the other simply let the reality speak for itself.

I repeat, Donald Trump should pull the plug on lockheed Martin and some heads should row. That plane is the scam of the 21st century.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op): 8:55am On Oct 21, 2017
Ikio:
For Free?
Yes of course. For free.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op): 4:07am On Oct 21, 2017
Foreign Affairs › Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(op):
Now, before you mendacious folks doing life in western prison of mendacity start hallucinating with shouts of lies, take time to read through and digest the whole piece. This is where logic comes to play. And the logic is that if a "bird" can cause a serious collision with the f35 two weeks ago, to the extent that it becomes "unoperational" for the time being, why does it still have anything to do with the Syrian battery hit?

2. Israel said the allege bird collision happened two weeks ago prior to the October 16th incident with the Syrian anti Air strikes and counter battery attack: why then was it reported now? No such incident was reported two weeks ago. Get the logic? cool

The logic is very clear. The IDF is trying to hide something but unfortunately, logical reasoning gave them out. The facts doesn't just add up, they were complete lies. That useless flying coffin was hit and the only way they could cover it was claim that a fiticous incidents that happened two weeks back (which never did happened) was responsible for the damaged f35 fighter. Ediots! grin

They wanted to show off to Shoigu that Israel is very active in the scheme of things, but it didn't quite worked out as planned. A Soviet Era SAM, which have an unenviable track record of diagracing overhyped US stealth fighters, have confirmed our worst fear all along. An outdated S-200 damaging the almighty boondoggle f35 is enough justification to hang every single head in Lockheed Martins. Just like the useless patriot missile, the 1996 Serbia downing of the US stealth fighter, the alleged B-2 downing, etc., the f35 is just another addition to the long list of facts that the US is been scammed and possibly sabotaged by the Greedy bastards in the MIC.

I would like to see how my Langley colleagues would explain this. grin

Missy89, Valeriansteel and Co, was Israel trying to hide a fact or not? cool

Great comrades Nairaminted, Zoharariel, scully95, and Co. Moscow must here this. grin

What a waste of $406 billion dollar research work. That money could have eased the increasing numbers of Americans living on food stamp.

Pathetic.

Read the full story below....


ISRAEL IS HIDING THAT ITS STATE-OF-ART F-35 WARPLANE WAS HIT BY SYRIAN S-200 MISSILE – REPORTS
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Illustrative image: Israeli Air Force F-35 warplanes
It looks that the Israeli “demonstration of power” during the recent visit of Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu has turned into a total failure.

On October 16, Shoigu arrived Israel for meetings with Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The sides were reportedly set to discuss the situation in the region, including Syria, the fight against terrorism as well as military and technical cooperation.

At the same day, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) claimed that its warplanes targeted an anti-aircraft battery of the Syrian Air Defense Forces that had launched a missile at Israeli aircraft flying over Lebanon.


The IDF added that the Syrian missile didn’t hit any Israeli aircraft.


“The army targeted the battery with four bombs and, according to the IDF, the battery was damaged to the extent it was no longer operational. The army said the battery targeted was the same that fired at Israeli jets last March, prompting Israel make use of its Arrow anti-missile system for the first time,” the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported on the issue.

The Syrian military confirmed the Israeli strikes and said that they caused “material damage.”

It’s interesting to note that, according to the Syrian Defense Ministry statement, Israeli warplanes violated Syria’s airspace on the border with Lebanon in Baalbek area. The incident took place at 8:51 am local time.

Could the Israeli Air Force intentionally provoke the reaction from the Syrian military in order to justify the strike on the Syrian air defense battery?

Furthermore, some pro-Israeli experts and media activists clearly linked the incident with the visit of the Russian defense minister to Tel Aviv saying that it was a nice demonstration of power to the Russian-Iranian-Syrian alliance.

However, something went wrong.

According to the available information, the Syrian Defense Forces used a S-200 missile against the Israeli warplane. This Soviet-made missile is the most advanced long range anti-aircraft system opearated by the Syrian military. Even in this case, it’s old-fashioned in terms of the modern warfare.

Despite this, the Syrian Defense Ministry said in its statement that government forces responded to the violation of the airspace and “directly hit one of the jets, forcing [Israeli aircraft] to retreat.” This statement contradicts to the Israeli claim that “no hit” was confirmed.

Few hours after the missile incident with Syria, the Israeli media reported that the Israeli Air Force’s F-35 stealth multirole fighter went unserviceable as a result of an alleged bird collision during a training flight.

The incident allegedly took place “two weeks ago” but was publicly reported only on October 16. However, Israeli sources were not able to show a photo of the F-35 warplane after the “bird collision”.

Furthermore, it is not clear if the F-35 can become operational again because its stealth coating was damaged. Thus, according to the Israeli version, the warplane reportedly became no longer operational after the bird collision despite the fact that the F-35 earlier passed the bird strike certification with great results (official info here). The F-35 is the world’s most expensive warplane. The price of developing the F-35 is now about $406.5 billion.

Israel is actively buying the world’s self-proclaimed most advanced fighter paying about $100 million for each plane.

So what did really hit the F-35?

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Foreign Affairs › Re: I Cried After Reading This! Happy Birthday To V.V. Putin by Appleyard(m): 9:21pm On Oct 20, 2017
NairaMinted:
Quite right dear komrade. From Iraq to Turkey to Syria to Satan Arabia to Phillipines, etc Russian weapons are the weapons systems of choice.

By the way did y'all seen the reports about an Israeli F-35 that was allegedly hit by a Syrian S-200 missile battery? What a flying coffin that scrap of metal is turning out to be.
Dear comrade, if there is one thing I have known Russian for, it is the simplicity and reliability of their weapon systems. The ediots were trying to hide the fact that the overrated flying coffin was hit in Syria. They keep denying it even when some feelers from Israel were saying the same thing.

Pathetic.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The World's No. 1 Economy? Not The U.S. by Appleyard(m): 2:30pm On Oct 20, 2017
cstr1000:
The US has gone beyond manufacturing, though Trump wants to bring it back by reducing taxes and bringing back US companies looking for cheap labour in china back home.
Anybody can manufacture. It is not difficult especially with cheap labour. The difficult thing is creating the intellectual property which is a product of innovation.
If the US and china were to go to the war, the US government would immediately enforce the patriot act compelling all US manufacturers like Apple, HP, TESLA, DELL, e.tc. in china to come back home immediately.
And that would severely cripple china as the world's manufacturing giant to a very very large extent.
And you think the Chinese don't know that already? There would even be no need to activate e the patriot clause cause it won't work. China would simply take over those companies or prevent them from leaving. It's as simple as that.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The World's No. 1 Economy? Not The U.S. by Appleyard(m): 2:25pm On Oct 20, 2017
ZandhaZaraZ:
America is a Paper Tiger! It can no longer fight or win wars in any meaningful way. Do you know that unlike the fearless, strong-willed, battle-hardened Russians, Chinese and North Koreans, the Americans are just weak-ass, cowardly, bugger-eating, psychologically feeble loudmouths? Americans FEAR death. America can't stand CASAULTIES. America is AFRAID of casaulties---which makes all its "technical superiority" pointless and easy to nullify in a battle against [color=darkgreen]people with souls[/color]. Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam have demonstrated this fact quite clearly. Or can it be said that any meaningful victory was achieved in Iraq? It is even said that America BRIBED Saddam Hussein's key soldiers to save her bugger-eating cowards from the heavy casaulties that they would have otherwise experienced. What a joke!

The Americans are empty, dumb, cretinous and crass---their enemies are spiritually and ideologically unbreakable. America's ember is dying, and its hegemony is being ECLIPSED on the world stage. The Zombie can only stagger on for a little longer. America should make no pointless moves that would embarass it any longer. The propaganda it lives and survives on is the only thing that now keeps it going.

Americans are weak people. Remember what 9/11 did to their psyche? You can be sure that had Hitler invaded America instead of the INDEFATIGABLE Soviet Union, he would have won World War II.

God died, and Nietzsche was the one who "called it". America has died, just that no one has "called it" yet. The GHOST is distracting people from seeing the CORPSE.
He that have an ear let him hear.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The World's No. 1 Economy? Not The U.S. by Appleyard(m):
Zoharariel:
Thank you sire. This is my problem with all these Amerikan-fan boys who only see things from the prism of the zionist mainstream media. grin

They have refused to accept tha everything we have seen so far indicates that Amerika is not rational or reasonable when it comes to accepting that her days as the “almighty” dictator of the world are over.

And instead of working to keep that “hell-hole” internal contradictions from tearing apart, her leaders are absolutely obsessed with holding on to their power and “punishing” Russia, Iran & NK for imaginary, or manufactured, transgressions - Pathetic! grin

Libya and the fate of Gaddafi stand as a stark reminder of what the “United Snakes of Amerika” would like to do to her self-created enemies.

Syria was scheduled to undergo the same treatment but the NATO/Zionist fist was stopped in mid-swing by the latest “Sheriff-in-Town” a.k.a Mother Russia in 2015 and Amerika has been frothing at the mouth ever since. grin cheesy grin

While China continues to dominate the world “Economically” ; the unbeatable “Military Arc of Covenant” of the world rests on Mother Russia!

Y else do you think most Countries - including NATO member states - are fighting to purchase Russian Military gears? Hahaahahahahahaaa! grin cheesy grin
Saudi Arabia now queueing up for S-400. Erdogan and his military must have leaked the secret how the system was effectively "painting" all US planes including the F-22 raptor in Syria and across the incirlik airbase in Turkey. The US DOD open complain further lend credence to this fact, and that's why Turkey didn't waste anytime in pushing for the purchase. Now, other traditional allies of the US are following suit.

What a game changing moment brought about by the Russian intervention.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The World's No. 1 Economy? Not The U.S. by Appleyard(m): 2:06pm On Oct 20, 2017
Mazeltovscotty:
you are contradicting yourself.
US spend more than 80% of its military budget on hardwares and military researches. (F-35 comes to mind). You can take a ride to DARPA website and confirm.
Have you ever seen a month that Pentagon doesn't award contract the likes of Lockheed, Northrop Grumman, General Dynamics e.t.c for one hardware or the other.

Secondly, there is need to project power all over the world giving US first-strike edge in any part of the world. This needs to be matched with fat budget.
Lies. The majority of US military spending goes into personel maintenance such as tissues, toothpaste, food, etc., and infrastructural maintenance like the over 800 military bases they have worldwide. Only a few of that translate into capabilities.

Stop the overhype, Pentagon doesn't award contracts on monthly basis. Most contracts are given out for maintenance and upgrade, only few goes for new systems.
Now the F-35 you mentioned is one of the reasons the US military is gradually becoming a waste basket. Spending billions on a project that simply doesn't work is unwise and wasteful for the prestige of the military. The B-2 is just another example, dropping just only five bombs in its entire career, yet it was hailed as the best plane ever built. Despite the hype, it has been relegated to the background with the US preferring the F-22 (which so far is a success) and now the F-35, the greatest boondoggle of the modern Era.

If it were to be in places like China, some heads would be rolling in the gallows by now. But being the US, the MIC can continue scamming the government and the people. That's the ultimate price when the greedy tentacles of capitalism runs the national ideology.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The World's No. 1 Economy? Not The U.S. by Appleyard(m): 1:40pm On Oct 20, 2017
timesup234:
Well the article is from bloomberg and you can also find it on CNN. America becam a super power thanks to the destruction of western europe during the second world war. Japan has capitalism and has been in depression for decades. Japan economy can hardly grow 1%. They were projected to surpass the US. by early 90's. Communism is really working for the Chinese and we should applaud them.
Many still don't understand the peripheral reality of what so-called Democracy and Cummunism entails to the states that practice them. While some would see and interpret the right of a people to sleep with animals or marry same-sex partners as Democratic, while states that frowns at such practices and seek to manage resources for the common good are tagged "undemocratic" and backward, so much has been forgotten about the Purchasing power of the average man on the street. And that's exactly what this article is trying to point.

THAT WHAT YOU CALL YOUR GOVERNMENT DOESN'T MATTER BUT THE SYSTEM AND PEOPLE THAT DRIVES IT.

If Democrasy and capitalism should be taking at face value the way its been portray, you wouldn't have had a United States with the world's most billionians yet one of the world's worst Healthcare system that ranked below Slovenia and Morroco. Not to mention a failing and dilapidated infrastructural system.

The fact remains that capitalism-the power of one man above a million-have done much harm than good to the society. We see the extremely rich sentenced to death in China, a communist society, but that will never happen in the capitalist greedy West like in the US.

Yeah, communism is working good for China and is only midgets with warp beliefs and myopic sentiment that doesn't know China has pulled ahead of the US in this area.
As I have always stated over time, the numbers of warships or you have won't win you a war. It is the inate will of the people and productive capacity of a state, together with the ultimate decision of the cosmic powers that determine the outcome of a war.
Foreign Affairs › Re: I Cried After Reading This! Happy Birthday To V.V. Putin by Appleyard(m): 9:51am On Oct 17, 2017
pacino26:
Though I know a new world order is in the offing thanks to my grand maternal cousin Putin cool cool cool

The recent disgrace of the CIA in Syria by the Russian SF is further dwindling uncle Sam's influence. Export grade S 400 can't be compared with home used systems. Besides what's good in reverse engineering a product with so much battle tested rep and repacking it for use; admission of defeat.

The Turks are waking up so also Saudi Arabia. Do o smell fish feed in the purchase; yes. Do I believe it's good for trade; yes. Will I anticipate it falling into enemy hands; yes. Am I thinking about the existence of a kill switch; most likely. grin grin

Waiting on Kim to place his orders soon.



I think Putin is planning to go undercover given the relationship with Zhirinovsky I can deduce he's making the move every great leader takes; creating a strong protege.
Sensible and plausible. But the Russians must have calculated all these scenarios before now. So I still believe they know what they are doing.

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