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Underground:
Appleyard, I couldn't have said it any better.
People fail to understand the difference between a military whose doctrine is to defend its territorial integrity and win its war at all costs within its borders. Such a military doesn't have the need for expensive - and to be frank, increasingly easy to target super-carriers. Has any of you heard about the super-carrier destroyers such as the DF-1D or YJ-18 missiles China has developed just for the purpose of incapacitating these carrier groups? What about the hypersonic missiles they recently tested? This so called blue-water power projection is of no interest to Russia since it has no desire to embark on "freedom" or "liberation" campaigns such as Iraqi Enduring Freedom. Lol! Well, I guess we can conclude with certainty that Iraq is at the moment enjoying that "Enduring Freedom" Uncle Sam has gifted them.
To say Russia has a second rate military is an insult to the sensibilities of those of us that know better. Why then hasn't NATO dare attack Russia but instead engages more in saber rattling or empty threats? Why don't they embark on a bombing campaign and liberate the poor people of Russia from the evil and despotic Putin? Cos they know that both parties are more or less evenly matched as far as conventional forces go and that the only way Russia could be possibly defeated is to employ a nuclear first strike so devastating and so unexpected that the chances of Russia launching a counter attack of its own is very minimal or non existent. The only other way Russia can succumb to the West is to defeat it from within hence the unnecessary and unprovoked sanctions with the hope that Russians would revolt and overthrow the Putin led government. Another tactic is using those so called NGOs such as NED, Amnesty International, etc and all those other fifth column agencies to fund and sponsor anti government activities.

India at the moment has cancelled it's order for French Rafale fighter planes and has switched to Russian SU-35 fighter jets. It is also considering buying the groundbreaking T-14 Armata tanks. China too has ordered 20 something plus SU-35s. If Russian military technology is second rate why then is their air defense system acknowledged as one of the world's best if not the very best and take a minute to appreciate that when u consider that when the S-500 system finally comes on board, the Russia air space will be practically impenetrable with the full spectrum coverage the S-500, S-400, Antey 2500 missiles - amongst others- will guarantee.

What else can i say, brother? I feel like i am surrounded by a litany of crownless praise singers each time i come accross posts hyping to high heavens,the United States so-called blue navy unpenetrable capability and unrivaled air superiority. Uncle Sam's fan boys easily points to this and start singing about it, but little did they know that their so-called god of war nation is "all powerful and untouchable" only in the movies. Please, if there is anything you can do to help free the minds of those zombified by that cursed box called 'tv', pls do. They need it!

And as for you, why are you wasting your time mentioning the S-500, if a strong nation like Isreal is practically crying over the possible sale of the S-300v to Syria by Russia, as it would cover almost all of its air space, is that not enough ground to tell you that that piece of equipment has teeth?. How much more the S-400 and S-500.

Alot of folks who understands little or nothing, or are either bias on issues bothering on technology and military capability viz the US and Russia, will easily bean-count on the numerical disparity in the conventional arsenals of both parties, and so hurriedly jump to conclusion that Russia stand no chance against the Yankees. But they fail to take into consideration the doctrine of realism in the face of open confrontation, as it relate to: who would be attacking and who would be defending? They also forgot that what Russia lack in bulky sh*t, it has gotten in "flying killer pins" plus wicked jamming electronic devices, couple with a very formidable sky defence formation.

While some will happily troll about a scenario of having the whole of NATO/US vs Russia,in which they opine that the Bear would be roasted, they are foolishly overlooking the near sure-banker that China,North Korea, Iran, etc and even some few countries in Europe will definitely get involved along side the Bear. Needless to say that no war will happen between NATO and Russia that will EVER be CONVENTIONAL!

You know what i mean!

So, help wake them up from their delusive dream!

It is a Sick Dream!

I am following you!

cyprus000:
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Thanks Soulja! Is been a while. I just resume hostilities on a topic in the foreign affairs zone. You may wanna check it. Is about US been troubled by Russian satelliite manovuerability. Posted by me, and a certain western agent is trsing words with an East coast soulja like me. Inviting to take on this zombified troller: OVER, Soulja!

biafranqueen:
Can you make a thread on the development please. Exclude private investments and the island ( Which as you see in the pictures they were cheaply devloped). Most of the school projects were Private I checked most of the development was privately funded. When you take in the IGR and the allotment you can now know that we have been molested and detested. Please tag me when you make the thread on development of Lagos under Tinubu and Fashola. If you want to talk about the stadium, compare it to Awaka Ibom that cost less to built but it is 10 times greater. Waiting in anticipation to be proven wrong.

Okay. Let me see what i can do.

bookface:
"Military spending does not dictate capabilities"

This is just rubbish ignorance - as i would dare say, a huge part of the points you've made.

First, the US spends only 30% of its military budgets on research and procurement - and a bigger part on maintaining existing capabilities. It doesn't matter if Russia spends 20,000 rubles producing a ship and the US spends 1 million - the difference is who has the spending capability to maintain that ship in the Mediterranean every day for the next 20 years?

The US maintains an incredible fleet of carrier battle groups and global "blue water" capabilities - that several countries can only dream of. Maintaining such a capability is directly proportional to military spending. - Even Britain & France had to scrap most of their maritime forces - since the costs are virtually prohibitive.

So yes, when US outspends Russia - it makes a difference on a technical level - because it dictates who has the staying power - The US navy alone has enough capabilities to fight both in Europe and Asia - simultaneously.

"it makes a difference on a technical level - because it dictates who has the staying power."

It depends on your usage and application of the term 'capability'. For when i made mention of this , i was refering to 'the technological capability' of the said states, and i cited China and Saudi Arabia outspending the likes of France, Britain, Germany and co: now, going by your definition, does it implies that the Saudis or Chinese have more technological capability than France and the Brits? Or do they have the "staying power" compare to the aforementioned States?

Lets face it! Spending alone is a crude indicator of military capability. What does money actually buy you? How much funding, for example, goes on salaries and the housing of large conscript armies? What about a country's willingness to use force?
Military spending refers to all expenditure on countries'
military forces. The largest part of this is usually the
salaries and benefits of soldiers and civilian staff, with
actual spending on arms making up a small part of the
total. It is a financial measure, measuring inputs, and does not necessarily measure military capability.
[see SIPRI for futher notes]

On your second point - No one denies that Russia has advanced technology that can do a lot of damage - but this does not change its position as a second rate military power without the nuclear option. Being a first rate military power is more than having advanced Iskanders and the like - You need what is called "reach". Like the case of the US going across the Atlantic into Iraq. On advanced technology alone, Russia is no better that the likes of UK, France and Germany really.

"reach!" I see. So, this is what, in your opinion makes the US the only 'filt' (oh sorry,) first rate military on the planet? And the rest are just bunch of second rated militaries? Wonderful! While this is true that the US has the 'reach' capability to project power to any part of the globe, is only as a result of its Numerical strenght viz its foreign policy in realizing its strategic and national interest by way of what you rightly termed as "forward deployment", for which the overrall aim is Global Hegemony; not because the Likes of Russia, Germany or France does not possess the technological know how, or can not develop and deploy same if they so chose. Everything wind down to national interest.

Russia's National interest since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, lies within the periphery of the formal Soviet space - especially in area of its strategic/security order. And this much is even reflected in the Government's plans documents ranging from now till the2020s.

So, the fact that such nations curtailed themselves to such interest does not imply it is a second rated power. And ever since it has been given the reasons to rethink its national interest in the face of the current carnage from the west, the speed at which it is reemerging its nothing short of awe and headache to them that are in the position to know; and now that they are complaining aloud, is because they are feeling it. Like i said before, the Bear is a bad bug on western skin.

Alot of brainwashed folks easily point to the numbers of boats and gigantic carriers of the US navy, never considering that they could be sitting duck for Russian fifth generational missiles and Subs designed to take out such threats, in a real war scenario. Many ignorant zombified trollers on modern warfare will easily bean-count US and Russia by wallowing in their warped delusive euphoria regarding the numerical disparity in weaponry, unknown to such "LovePeddler-lly-wood" zombified brain-gaffers that, what Russia lack presently in such over hyped gigantic equipments, they have made-up for in missiles and Jamming devices. Nor do they realise that warfare goes beyond machines. To them, it implies the invisibility of the US: that, The US, with its "unparalleled blue-water capabilities" can not be reach or affected conventionally. Yet, In 2007, for example, a relatively elderly Chinese Song-class boat (of Russia Diesel-powererd boat origin) approached the carrier USS Kitty Hawk undetected until the crew announced themselves by surfacing near the giant warship, an act which so much shocked and antagonized the Yankees. Not to mention the Russian Kilo-class and its newer Amur-class successor that are far quieter and far more capable than the Chinese boat. Buleva class and other subs of same class are so quiet and sneaky that the US Navy could only dubbed them as "blackholes". One of such back in 2012 roamed freely over a month within the coast of Califonia, until itself decided to be seen. But to some persons, uncle Sam can 'reach anywhere, but he can't be 'reached.'
Pathetic thoughts.

On your third point - I would dare say this also proves how little you know of military matters. According to Master Sun Tzu in the Art of War, the five critical factors to succeed in any war- Attack, Strategy, Alliances, Army and Cities.-

Russia is actually not strategically positioned- quite the contrary - Even though it is the largest country in the world, it has an indefensible territory. The core of Russia which runs from the volga green belts up to Moscow proper is without any natural geographic barrier. The biggest flaw with its geographic location is the Northern European plain - which has a gap between the Carpathian Mountains and the Baltic sea. Russia has faced three major invasions through this gap - from Napoleon, from Willhelm and from Hitler. May i also remind you that despite it's large Soviet army at that time, Hitler was only miles away from taking Moscow, if it hadn't been for his (Hitler) own strategic errors and the cruel Russian winter?

"attack, strategy, alliances, army and cities"

These are vital factors, no doubt, and who doesn't know it? It is easy to boast of allies and alliances prior to a war, but when the guns starts blazing, allies quickly emerges from the blue, some existing ones quickly switch sides, while others will feign or claim neutrality - all depending on the-much overlooked determinants such as Fear, Lack of Public support or public revolution induce by panick, Hate and a long haboured vengeful desire, Distrust, Secret backdoor negotiations, Strategic and Economic backlash, National interest viz foreseeability, Last-ditched changes in policy and objectives, etc, etc, are some of the factors that has always and would always determine the anthemic or unpredictability nature of alliance and allies formation.

Even as lofty as the Sun Tsu principles are, it is imperative that we understand that the notion of war, especially one on a large scale or global proportion, goes beyond armies, machines alliance, etc. The major determinants, whether we believe it or not, are the concepts of the "Cosmic orderliness of things" and "Collectivism/Will power."

Will power entails the collective and overwhelming patriotic resolve of the people (though not necessarily all of the peolpe) to support and defend the territorial intergrity or in realizing stated goals, despite the prevailing conditional circumstances. Will power is ready at all times to give sacrificial services and accept losses, which only stimulate its tentacles.

Just reminisce on the Vietnam vs the US war, the almighty Yankees were beaten left, right, and centre by a bunch of Vietcong bush men (not withstanding the little aid from the Soviets). Conversely, The almighty Soviets got their ass whooped by a riff-raff ill equipped gang of Afghan desert forces (however little aid they got from the US).
these are typical examples of collectivism based on will power.
But the same can not be said of Libya, where the government have no backing of the people, neither in Iraq, where Iraqis Generals were bribed not to fight back. But the difference was so much the contrary in Serbia, where the Serbs single handedly stood up to the US/NATO air bombardments for a WHOLE 77 days (not withstanding they virtually succumbed).

How much more would the Bear?!

The Cosmic order is the chief of them all. Isreal's amazing feat in the 6days war against the Arab realm, is only a testimony of their Biblical position.
And have you ever wondered why the first World War ended in the " Eleventh Month", on the "Eleventh Day", and at the "Eleventh Hour?"

I will tell you; THE COSMIC ORDERLINESS OF EVENTS!

And as far as these cardinal indispensible conceptual tenets are concerned, it will never matter your size, strategy or allies, depending if they are for you or against you!

it is as simple as that!

Now, regarding your postulation that Russia is not strategically positioned or is some how defenceless from the Northern plain, is indeed a viable point but one that unfortunately also fall short of the reality of modern warfare in the face of "wicked technology".

Yes, It is difficult to defend Russia in the
north, and Belarus is indispensable as a buffer. And the
Russians have a significant fear of three small and weak
countries: Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia. It is not the
countries themselves that are the problem. It is their geography. The Baltic states are a bayonet pointing at St.
Petersburg. Another nation that is also a major power
could use them as a base from which to attack Russia. This Russia understood perfectly, and the immediate answer to that is the upsurge in its missile programs and the deployment of same to such places, especially within the kalinegrad region; while it goes about its normal duties in ensuring politically and covertly the much needed buffer zones, while rebuilding its conventional and nuclear capacity under the covering of its immediate nuclear umbrella, coupled with the unstable security and economic situational distractions accross the globe, particularly in the Middle East.
It is no secret that technology changes geography in ways that alot of people ignores—and usually shrinks it. No doubt, Russia would rather have buffer zones. But make no mistake about it's readiness to use both conventional and thousands of nuclear weapons, which are still a solid deterrent to any Napoleonic or Hitlerize insane march on Moscow.

Don't mess with Russians. Any country that would dare to attack and invade Russia ON IT'S OWN BORDERS will be defeated in a conventional war. And if alliance of countries dare to attack, it will be a Nuclear winter on the Earth.

And then we can say: " adieu humanity, welcome the crocroaches."

kuuljay:
pdp is concerned more about the anti corruption crusade even more than the rulling party why?

Its because James Hardly Chase have said it: The Guilty are afraid", especially when they have no where to run!

koolpal:
without even seeing d list, i already know d names on d list... JONA and his bunch of 'friends'

Of course...

I don dey compile my own list self.... But mine no go need the court system when corrupt die to prove the facts... Just give me one sniper rifle, and i guarantee you that answers will start coming from the Longest range!

The wages of sin....

wisefizz:
....

Teacher: What is Nigeria?

Student: A JOKE

Teacher: Correct! Clap for him

Nairaland: What is Nigeria?

Op: A Joke!

Nairaland: Wonderful! So Nigeria is a Joke, yet you are living within its walls, and even posting your idiotic posts in one of its forums? The real JOKE its YOU!

Phoenix001:
Another huge conflict that might threaten the world is underway

Of course! We are waiting for the day when the neo cons shall release their final findings, and you can be rest assured it will read thus; Russia did it!

Pathetic souls!

Fleshly:
Tinubu is the fountain-spring of corruption!!!

This is serious! The truth is, there is hardly any governor in the democratic dispensation of Nigeria that didn' steal. Therefore, Fashola and Tinubu can hardly be exempted, especially that Tinubu.
In as much as i support this current administration, i have never been comfortable seeing that Son of Cain called "Thiev-Nubu" around my President. That man is a crook from birth, and with this kind of people around him, Mr president is going to find it very hard to deal with corruption and set things in order.

In the light of this explosive allegations, the Effc ahould borrow speed from Usain Bolt and spring into action, now that the heat wave of ant-corruption is still high.

But nevertheless, i still find it hard to comprehend the notion that Tinubu or Fashola is more corrupt than Ibori and that hammar head of horror called Uduaghan! How are they more corrupt when Lagos under both indicted formal governors, can boast of some notable infrastructural projects, things that the people Delta state can only dream of? What was the total debt of Lagos state and money left over by the successive governors? That of Delta state is a 'good' record that would only make you cry. Ibori looted and looted, although he did some little things here and there, but when you consider the allocation allocated to the state, especially during the time of the excess crude boom, coupled with the huge sums from internal generated revenue, you would agree with me that He did Virtually nothing!

Then came his brother, the hammar head shark Uduaghan, who compounded everything, and the result now is: a very successfully underdeveloped state and a whooping 636 billion naira in debt left over for Okowa to enjoy! Right now, the state can't even pay workers for 6months running, not to talk of funds for capital projects.
I tell you the truth; when it comes to corruption, Lagos state is still in kiddergathen compare to Delta.

And if nothing is done about the likes of Udu-Aghan and co, the Buhari's fight against corruption won't be complete.

koboko69:
Like thief husband like armed robber wife. Thank God Sarakiri the PDP'S mole quickly revealed his true color. IN the next coming days he will be clearly shown how over ambition kills, and he can port back to PDP if he is not handcuffed for participating in forgery of senate standing rules

Any TANoid that thinks Baba trusts ATIKU more than TINUBU should check his brain. Tinubu have been a great politician void of PDP stains, or political prostituting unlike ambitious Atiku

Tick Tock, Tick Tock......we shall see who wins at last

ANY WAILING WAILER THAT MISQUOTES ME or QUOTES ME ANYHOW......... WILL DIE OF WAILING!!!!


sahara reporters: tanoids headache since 1806! See how they wailers will defend Saraki's wife an APC member. confused lots@@

What else do you expect from a bunch of clowns whose only thematic posture is to freelance in the wake of Bob Marley's song "the wailers."

So-called baba-go-slow is doing one of the major things we voted him him to do; tackle corruption and do awasy with the wastage and financial recklessness that was the hallmark of the defunt TaNoid drunkards administration. And since the political and tribal sentimentalists, half breeded taNoids don't like the wind of change, as they are use to ministers spending billions for chartering private Jets and hiding from 'Satan' in bullet proof cars, they are free to abandone the project Nigeria (what the fools called the zoo), and jump into the nearest lagoon. Otherwise, i don't see what is still keeping them in it.

Oh, wait! I think i know now; The unpatriotic taNoids and tribalistic idiots are still feeding Fat from the 'zoo'. So, in reality, who are the zoo now?

Pathetic wailers!

Good riddance to bad rubbish! One down, many more to go!

bookface:
Third, Pentagon's concern with Russia is NOT in its upgrade to its military, but its tendencies to "strategically" expand its borders, like in Crimea and Georgia.

What a babel! You are just re-echoing the stupid prevailing wisdom in the West, where the Ukraine crisis can be blamed almost entirely on Russian aggression. Russian President Vladimir Putin, the argument goes, annexed Crimea out of a long-standing desire to resuscitate the Soviet empire, and he may eventually go after the rest of Ukraine, as well as other countries in eastern Europe, bla bla blah!
Its so childish that it often makes me laugh out aloud.
What a joke!
Russia is the largest country in the world with so much untapped natural and human resources, and still striving hard to meet its own economic and infrastructural developmental objectives. What does it need additional lands for? Don't just point myopic fingers at Crimea and Osseta. Russia reserved the right to bomb the hell out of anyone to protect its Russian ethnic citizens anywhere, not to mention when such need arises in its own backyard. Georgia killed Russian peace keepers in Osseta and Abkezia, two Russian ethnic territories, and the Russians rightly freed their people from terror.
In Ukraine, your hegemonic uncle Satan formented a coup in trying to move away Ukraine from Russian orbit,
and the Bear's response was so swift that the US Military Planners was left staring into space.
And how long will it take you to admit the reality? Pentagon is hell scared, not just worried of Russia's Military reassertment. Keep that up your sleeves!

Fourth - You really have to admit, but Russia is a dying power that is longing to hold on to the reins. It's strategic planners realized a little too late that you cannot achieve dominance without economic rigour. So now, they will rather play a second fiddle to China than be left completely isolated. It's interesting to see how much the Russian press sing of the Russian-Chinese alliance, but the Chinese press doesn't give that much of a damn. Russia needs China now - and China can take advantage as much as it wants.

You never stopped amazing me! How is Russia a dying power, when it has steadily climb up the ladder in almost all of its endeavours regarding its national life, in the aftermath of the collaps of the Soviet Union?
Its economic, though some how fragile, is far better than what it use to be since 91. Post-Soviet Russia has
been making significant progress both economically and
militarily, even if many are failing to credit it as a
rising power. A cursory study would displays positive changes in its GDP and military expenditures. Aside from the eight years of decline following the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia has been growing remarkably and consistently over the last fourteen years.
In 1999, Russia’s GDP fell to a meager $196 billion; by
2013 its GDP reached $2.1 trillion, an 11-fold increase.
Russia’s military spending in 2013 was $88 billion, 14
times the $6.47 billion figure for 1999.
Also in comparative terms, Russia is a relevant player. Another study that shows military spending of BRIC member states since 1991. Russia was below both India and Brazil in the late 1990s but leaped forward after the turn of the century. According to a SIPRI report, in 2014 its military budget was approximately 2.5 trillion rubles, which ranks Russia third in the world after the United States and China.
Since 2008, Russia’s military budget has grown by 31%, and Russia has surpassed the UK and Saudi Arabia. Over the last 16 years, Russia’s military budget has
increased almost 14-fold. In relative terms, in 1999,
China’s military budget was 3.2 times larger than
Russia’s ($20.56 billion and $6.47 billion), but by 2013,
this fell to 2.2, ($188.46 and $86.84 billion).

How does these culminate in a 'dying power?'
quit listening to BBC and desist from digesting bullsh*t trolled by the likes of NY Times and The Guardian.

Therefore, it is very stupid and clownish to be saying, either in absolute or relative terms, that Russia's power is dying, yet the US is bitterly whimpering on a reemerging Bear power.
In reality,The real dying power here is the US, and the only thing to keep it up is Wars upon wars.


If realism matters at all for alliance formation in the face of geopolitics, a China-Russia alliance now is more feasible than 10-15 years ago. Your postulation that Russia is playing a second fiddle to China, is outright nonesense! They have both realized that they have a common enemy. China needs Russia for its high military techs, as much as Russia needs China for its financial power and market, as it tries to diversify away from a self-destructive west. And this has gone a long way in boosting the Russian financial needs.
Financially, Russia's position is so solid that
even the three Western credit ratings agencies
don't have the gall to downgrade Russia's
rating, sanctions notwithstanding. This is a country that is aggressively paying down its foreign debt, is running a record-high budget surplus, has a positive balance of payments, is piling up physical gold reserves, and not a month goes by that it doesn’t sign a major
international trade deal (that circumvents the US dollar). In comparison, the US is a dead man walking:
unless it can continue rolling over trillions of
dollars in short-term debt every month at record-
low interest rates, it won’t be able to pay the
interest on its debt or its bills. Good-bye, welfare state, hello riots. Good-bye military contractors and federal law enforcement, hello mayhem and open borders. It must be understood that at this point the American ruling elite is almost entirely senile.

I dey laugh oooo!

bookface:
You are either a lazy thinker or just someone who speaks borne out of emotive biases.

First, US will always outspend Russia 10 to 1 on military, that's a fact

Second , Russia's military parity with the US is only on nuclear terms - taking out the nuclear option, then you will quickly find that Russia is just another second rate power. It's ability to project extraordinary power well beyond its shores is limited and it doesn't have a litany of extremely loyal allies or the economic strength to wage a prolonged campaign

Third, Pentagon's concern with Russia is NOT in its upgrade to its military, but its tendencies to "strategically" expand its borders, like in Crimea and Georgia.

Fourth - You really have to admit, but Russia is a dying power that is longing to hold on to the reins. It's strategic planners realized a little too late that you cannot achieve dominance without economic rigour. So now, they will rather play a second fiddle to China than be left completely isolated. It's interesting to see how much the Russian press sing of the Russian-Chinese alliance, but the Chinese press doesn't give that much of a damn. Russia needs China now - and China can take advantage as much as it wants.

The thing about you that always interest me is that you always pride your self in your arrogance, while others before you are shallow minded, only in your arrogant mind and bias opinions! It is only a kid that starts a debate with insult.
But its accepted, we all are entitled to our views.

Now, regarding your numerical assertments; it is true that:

First,- the US would always outspend Russia 10 to 1 on military projects, but what difference does it make? If i spend 1000 dollar in research on a rifle, and you spent just 100 dollar on that same rifle research, but at the end you came out with the same result, or one even better, or its equivalent, then what is the difference in the amount spent? You should know that there is a difference between military technological know how and excessive military spending.
Military spending doesn't dictate capabilities. For instance, The Chinese outspend the Russians but they dont have the capability to even face them, rather they overwhelmingly depends on Russia for theirs. The Saudis outspend the Germans, France and the British, but can't compete with them or other key players; not even with Iran.

Thus, the usual excuse for the US outspending Russia makes no technological difference in the conventional sense in terms of results, since both have the same effect and level in capability, the only real difference being in NUMBERS. And where this becomes the case, Russia then counters with an opposite opposing capability.
That is why your uncle sam is always crying foul to high heavens whenever the Russians put up something that matches or out performed theirs!

Secondly, it is not true that Russia, aside the nuclear option, is a second rated military power. Rather, it is a nation whose advanced technology exports present a major strategic risk for the US, whether operated by China, or smaller players like Iran or Venezuela. These systems will deny access to most US ISR and combat aircraft. Russian high technology weapons are transforming the strategic landscape in Asia, as the defence industries of the former Soviet Republics export some of the most advanced weapons designed and built to date. This strategic has important long term implications for US policy makers, and from the uptick in the cries upon cries of alarm, it shows that the matter is well understood or indeed widely understood in Washington circles.

On this note, you are dead wrong! Russia has always, and will always be an indispensible player, whether conventional or nuclear.

And it does not need a litany of allies to defend itself when threatened, for she is big enough and strategically positioned to defend it self. The US and NATO can have as many allies as they want around Russia, with whatever battery missile they may want to station there; they would only end up being the perfect targets for Russian Iskander and defense penetrating missiles. Just As one Russian General aptly put it: " we will take care of them with one missile".

Believe it or not, whatever game the US will put up in Europe, the Russians will always come up with something that will beat it or atleast deny its aim.

I will take you up on the rest tomorow. Stay well.

bookface:
The stup'id Russians tend to get a high whenever the US claim to be "alarmed" by something.

In Russia's interpretation - We are so strong that the US is really afraid of what we have

In US interpretation - We are "alarmed" so we have a prelude to make a move based on "self defence"

How are the Russians stupid and getting a high when they aren't the ones wailing? In Russia's interpretation? It wasn't the Russians that are complaining: thus, it is the US that is actually doing the interpretation.

In the US interpretation, they are alarmed, and is rightly so, given the upsurge in Russia's military and strategic upgrades in recent times; something the Pentagon is not finding funny at all!

A prelude my foot! The US has been spemding billions upon billions in defence against a fictional so-called axis of evil, and has over the years, been engage in such act of military spending to realise its quest for global hegemony.
The alarm it has been raising since 2O11, is purely out of fear and concern regarding Russia's rapid growing military capability re-emerging as a key and indispensable player, especially in the wake of the Crimea lightning military show piece! And that is a fact on the part of the US, not a prelude!

For example - the US could claim to be "alarmed" by Russia's intermediate range missiles - therefore for "self-defence" reasons, it will station a full range of anti missile batteries in Eastern Europe.

Now the thing with these moves by the US is that they are often permanent moves as opposed to temporary ones. The US has 800 military bases around the world. Several of these basis are set up because the US claim to be responding to a "threat" - and even after the threat is no longer existing, the bases stay in place.

In reality, there's no technology that Russia has today that can really "alarm" or "surprise" the United States. - Forget even the US and look at junior NATO partners like Germany, UK and France. Even though these countries don't spend much on a gigantic military and will instead, piggy back on the US military - there is very little that Russia can really deliver in military tech that will be completely revolutionary or turn out to be a "surprise" factor to these guys. Germans don't spend on military, but there military hardware is the shit!

Who cares if the US has 2OOO bases world wide? Having bases in Europe did not stop Russia from Liberating Abkezia and Osseta from Georgia after bombing the devil out of them. Neither was it and its military cronie bloc, NATO, able to stop the Red army from annexing the Crimea from Ukraine. Nor has it deter Russia's vow to directly engage in military action if Syria is attacked directly by the US and NATO: a fact that has ensured the survival of the Assad regime.

It is one thing to talk of bases and the movement of missile batteries here and there, but when ever the reality sets in, the results begs for answers to the questions of achievement: as Russia is seen countering every move with a better or equivalent moves.

Can you also point to one technology posessed by the US or the West that is not known to Russia, or it equivalent in purpose or in deterent?

It is laughable to hear insinuations that Russia has very little or nothing to offer in terms of military technology. Yet, Uncle Sam sees it as the greatest threat to its security! It has nothing to offer, but its missile programs and capabolity is causing ripples among its haters? Maybe just another prelude, right? I dey laf oo.

Lets face it! The US and NATO knows that the only Nation capable of reducing them to radioactive dust is the 'Bear', and that is a fact no one is going to risk!

Is as simple as that.

The Bear is a really bad pest in western skin

trilobite:
EXPLANATION: we are afraid the satellite might have been sent to monitor our satellites.

The cold war continues.

Damn right! The cold game has begone! Hence, both side making issues out of anything.

Capanaum in the making!

[quote author=Appleyard post=36203453]What kind of marginalization be that now? Why was Igbo not included? Oh, i understand why..... Biafra wahala! Igbo kwenu! You guys should not worry, i will smuggle Urhobo in to compensate for the cheat!

Omo deltaa!

What kind of marginalization be that now? Why was Igbo not included? Oh, i understand why..... Biafra wahala! Igbo kwenu! You guys should not worry, i will smuggle Urhobo in to compensate for the cheat!

Omo deltaaa!

Tompolo can go and hang for all we south south care! With all the billions he and the likes of Ateke Tom and Asari is in control of today, what have they done for the region? How many youths have they empowered? Which infrastucture have they put up in the region?
Nothing! And they still believe people will fight enmass like the first time? Wrong!

You can fool all the people some of the time, you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all the time!

MEND has lost its usefulness and respect among the south southerners, and no one is ready to die in a struggle that they would benefit nothing from at the end.

Brother Jonadaff has ensure that fact!

Obiagelli:
Were you expecting several F16s to fly behind the presidential jet to Abuja? Anyways Buhari was invited by the US and he has gotten commitment from one of our allies to help fight Boko Haram and return stolen funds.

Yes, he was invited, and is good to have honoured that invitation. But what has the visit achieved? Nothing! And Did i hear you say commmitment? On what scale? Is it The same US that will tell you that they are fully committed to helping Nigeria fight the insulgency, only to turn around to point at the 'Leahy's Law' as the restraining factor on their part? But no such restraining factor dare stand their way when air-dropping weapons for ISIS?
Quit dreaming! The only commitment of the US so far, is to ensure that the likes of ISIS and Boko Haram prosper! That is a fact!

And where did you sleep last night? Just asking in case you are dreaming on a springbed, for that may have informed your perception that the US is your ally. If so, wake up bro, its a delusive dream! The Chief of terror can never be your ally! The most hated nation on earth can never be your pal! The United State of Anarchy controlled by its greedy banksters and killer multinationals, is your Enemy, and has proven to be so!

Truckpusher:
It is a shame that in this 21st century African leaders are still running to the same people that bastardized their continent for ages to seek for help in their own internal problems.
Which race did the white man run to become who they are? Can't we embark on capacity building given the rising number of population and available resources ?
Why is it difficult for us to look inwardly and make something out of ourselves instead of turning ourselves into a race of beggars?
Why has the Nigerian leadership not been able to harness our natural resources, human resources and the teeming population to build whatever we want and strengthen to maintain while pushing boundaries ?
We have all it takes to become great without begging any nation for any kind of help.

Of course! That is the multi million dollar question i keep asking my self. The black man continue to make himself so inferior before the white man in so much that at times makes me wonder if it wasn't the same intelligence of the Creator that is behind both creativity?
I am so disappointed that Nigeria that is suppose to lead the way out of such self-impose enslavement that the black race finds itself, is the one diving head-on into the same captivity over and over again, boasting of the most clueless, dull and myopic daff-gang of leaders.

Very pathetic!

Why would Buhari probe GeJ alone and leave the rest to freelance along with their stolen wealth? Or is Atiku not a thief, whose demonic tracked record with the BPE is there for all to see? Or how did Obasanjo acquired the whole of Ota farm? And what qualificational right has Danjuma and some mushroom Emir in the North to be in possession of oil blocks?

If what is good for the goose is also good for the gander, then why this selective act of justice? Not that i give a hoot about Jonadaff, anyway!

But, like Thomas Aquinas said, "Justice is the firm and constant will to give every one his due!"
It said "everyone one," that deserves it, not some people alone.

On this note, the Buhari's administration would be wrong in taking such steps!

What is even wrong with our leaders? How do you expect the chief of terror to help you with weapons to suppress terrorism?
In as much as i support the Buhari's administration, i can not but say it is folly on its part to go seek for military assisstance from a Nation whose conduct so far, has only increased the belief by many that it is it that is behind Nigeria's current terror predicament!

And come to think of it, are there no other nations in the world that are selling weapons? What happened to Russia, China, etc, etc?
Or is there a curse that our leaders must always go back to what the Truckpusher called "their slave masters?"

Na wow o!

Everybody na king for im lane! No mone is king of the street!

The maneuverability of Russia’s Cosmos-2504
military satellite launched on March 31 from the
Plesetsk test site has alarmed the US Air Force, which
thinks it may potentially be an “on-orbit anti-
satellite weapon.”
"A Russian military satellite launched in March has made at least 11 close approaches to the rocket upper stage that released it into orbit,” SpaceNews website quotes a spokesman for the US Air Force as saying. “Such maneuvering capability is consistent with, but not necessarily indicative of, an on-orbit anti- satellite weapon,” he added. Strategic Command’s Joint Space Operations Center (JFCC) at Vandenberg Air Force Base, California is closely watching the satellite, which, it claims, “inat least one case appeared to have nudged the upper stage to a higher orbit “.

Cosmos 2504 was launched along with three communications satellites aboard a Rockot vehicle with a Briz-KM booster stage from Russia’s Plesetsk Cosmodrome on March 31. Since then JFCC has been “keeping a close eye”on the satellite. It says on one occasion the satellite approached an unidentified piece of orbital debris. However It has not approached any active satellites.

Serpents dont carry guns, throw bombs or advance on enemy's line of combat.

He should be in the warfronts handling saboteurs and traitors in the army, not some toothless serpents fighting for its own life!

Clerverly:
You See Why The Wailing Wailers are the Most Useless Set of Human Beings? So Dasuki had all the "damning evidence" yet he and his former Master, jondaftt allowed Boko Haram to fester unchecked for the past 6 years thereby leading to the death of over 20000 Nigerians? Who does he think he is fooling? Buhari or Nigerians?

I can now authoritatively confirm, that Jonathan actually Sponsored Boko Haram to wipe out the people of North East as many people claimed!

Nonsense!!

If you claim the jondaff sponsored them, well, i can't hold that against you nor him. But one thing is certain, and it is that boko haram was 'superficiously' noctured and spiritedly motivated to the level of the force they are now, by the 'baby pampering' they recieved from the very begining when the disastrous maladministration of the previous charade cum government. All thanks to the weakling, Badluck jo-nothing!

Another glaring fact is that, Boko is a mission of a foreign element, and this foreign element seemed to have infiltrated our security apparatus, with their paid agents and double agents acting in connivance with the terrorists. It is on this note that i think, Dasuki comes in to play because, his position guarantees atleast, adequate knowledge and evidence on the how-come-about the level of sophistication of the terrorists, expecially regarding intelligence and finance, weapon movements etc. Yet from the onset, nothing concrete has come out from that office.

Something tells me that the man knew something that he is not telling! I don't believe he is just been haunted wickedly by the presidency!

OfoIgbo:
Are my eyes deceiving me? Is John Kerry not wearing a pair of trainers in that picture?

Another observation is that Okorocha and Oshiomole are there to give Americans the false impression that Buhari has blanket support from all over the country.

To be honest I don't think Buhari has what it takes to handle Radio Biafra and its nuisance value. Before he became the president he never imagined that this thorn will be under his skin. He probably thought his greatest headache in the south will be Asari and Tompolo whom he imagined he could easily crush and subdue either by throwing cash at them or using the Nigerian military to encircle

Radio Biafra is immune to such, as I don't see Nnamdi Kanu agreeing to any pipeline contracts, neither do I anticipate that IPOB Biafrans could be defeated by the Nigerian army.
The Radio Biafra menance is also not restricted to one region, as SS and SE youths are the major recipients of the radio's message

All about radio Biafra is just hype and bunch of noise!nobody cares if they broadcast from east to jericho! And if anyone thinks any indegeneous youth in the SS is listening in on radio Biafra, then you truely need a 2x2 on your head to wake up from such delusion. No one in the south south give a dime about it, let alone courting it.

Attention seekers go by action, not dancing on the wave lenghts of frequencies!

frehage:
The big question is, who will implement this great solution? Is it our current set of political and economic elites, when they are the exact antithesis of your propositions and benefit so much from the rot of the current system? Or the people that are bitterly divided along our national fault lines, coming together to demand equity of our leaders?

Dear brother!

Know that Your question is adding pains to an already bleeding heart, and is making me to be more sad, because the fabrics of my patriotic heart have long been nagged and contracted against on this very question, only on a rhetorical mode. And the painful realisation that has confronted me on each occassion , was an unwanted but factual conclusion based on the direction/chains of events, in line with the degree of causal relativism, that; in the absence of "the beutiful ones that are not yet born" (the godly political and economic elites), its becoming more apparent that IT IS ONLY A NATIONAL PURGE THROUGH A BLOODY REVOLUTION that may bring about such lofty propositions.

And the realisation is even more painful when you consider the fact that, for long, many have been praying and working in ways so that we don't experience the horrors of civil unrest, which is the hall mark of all revolutions, like the one of 1967-1970: the same experience that is now gradually becoming more inevitable, glaring at us on face level. The last straw that could ''Balkanize" the political entity called Nigeria!

South Sudan, Syria, Ukraine, are not pleasant reflections!

Thus, what we have been trying to avoid for ages could be brought upon us by our own vengeful hands, regarding the wrong we are trying to correct!

its like We are neither here nor there!

My Heart Bleed!

For we are Caugtht In The MIDDLE!

God help Nigeria.

panafrican:
Maybe he will hate the Black police officer more for having saved him.

hahahahahahahahaahhahahaaha!

You are damn funny! Hahahahahahahahhaahhaahahhahah!

iiiyyyk:
Thus, the actual problem still point back to THE OPERATORS OF THE SYSTEM, and not just the SYSTEM itself!

Corruption has more to do with individual ideology and objectivism, not just the particular structure of a system!

Belgium that you mentioned was able to achieve that purpose, because they have career and people-minded political and economic ruling elites; but the same can not be said of Nigeria.

Tell me, When last did you actually voted and your vote counted, especially in elections for states representatives? Or better still, what good dividends or impact of a representative government have your locality or constituency benefited since the democratic life of Nigeria began?

If the answer is none or not much, it is therefore as a result of the same twin evil-- Corruption and insensitivity on the part of the ruling elites! If it wasn't there, the story would have been different, irrespective of the faulty System!
it is true that we speedilyu need a change in structuring of the system, and nobody is afraid of that. But the question still remain: where are the leaders that would bring about this change? Well, the painful answer is, thery are not there because the ones we have now are so selfish and corrupt. And you can never chieve any mea
ningful development where corruption and insensitivity thrives!

Thats the point i was trying to make. We need a change, but the corruption wont let it!

Your Analogy is excellent.
But we need a systems that can reduce corruption. ABUJA holding Economic power is to far from the people, hence a heaven for corruption, keeping whooping 52%+ of natiinal income.
Econmic power need to be shifted to regions, allow them to use their resuses and develop the way they want.
What is secondary schools doing in the office of a fed minister in abuja, what can he do to enhance FGC immiringi? What is primary health care doing in Abuja, what can there do to improve services at primary health center okomoko? Abuja should just be for Military, part policing, CBN, Foriegn Affairs and part tetiary education and research institution.
Y should a man in niger state wait for Abuja to develope his solid mineral? Why should Enugu need abuja to mine coal wasting in their domain? Do u know 46% of gemany's power comes from coal? Yet ours is lying fallow because of Abuja Bureaucracy.

Many state governors a lazying abt waiting for abj to share money or ball them with no condition after state funds has been cyphooned without any condition for the bail.
What a shamefull way of running a nation.

Truely, I don't think Nigeria will ever get better unless we make changes that will encourage regional growth.

Waiting for politians is a waste of time, the people must united and demand for the change they want.

I fully concur! If power truely belong to the people, then they must stand up, unite and turn like a wounded viper to demand justice and accountability from the Satanic 1%ters. Otherwise, we would continue in abject poverty!
But this too may also prove difficult to achieve, given the escalating hatred among the people that should matter,based on tribal differencies and regionalism: the perfect ploy and tool deployed by the elites to ensure non awakening on the part of the people.

Just immagine what is happening here on Nairaland presently, it makes me wonder at times if this people are from the same country!

God will help us o!

frehage:
Superb. So what's the way forward?

I think, (like Dr Wokili said,) the Only Way Forward For Nigeria is to tackle the menace of corruption and the faulty structure of the system.

For instance, Nigerians are rightly not respected anywhere in the world. The first thing that comes to mind with the name ‘Nigeria’ is corruption and deception. One is automatically guilty of these vices until you proof yourself otherwise. Our bad national image has been cultivated and nurtured to maturity over the past decades by successive regimes in this country. Our image is the bye-product of unbridled corruption, avarice, false democracy as presently practiced in this country, indiscipline and loss of morale values by the generality of Nigerians as exemplified by various successive self imposed leaders. We are currently not practicing democracy but DEMONcrazy which is flagrant demonstration of demonic craziness. Elections are rigged coupled with violence, public pronouncements of our leaders are the exact opposite of what they practice, the law enforcement agents are compromised, the ordinary folks out there have lost confidence on the judiciary, dishonesty governs the leadership while deception becomes the compass. This has been the story for decades. While a few people are swimming in the ocean of affluence, majority of Nigerians are wearing oversized garments of poverty decorated with ornamental frustration. The universities are churning out graduates in hundreds of thousands every year without jobs thereby grooming them into future armies of revolution. Insecurity as expressed in assassinations, kidnappings, and now terrorism, is the order of the day! How do
we come out of this quagmire?

I find out that the only difference between the people in the western world and Nigerians is the quality of leadership offered which is a reflection of the administrative structures in place. Aside from this, Nigerians and the westerners (Americans, Britons, French, and Germans etc) are basically the same and will behave the same way under the same conditions. The westerners and Nigerians have the same natural instincts for bad and good, it is the administrative structure in the society that shapes the conduct of the people by promoting either of the instincts with the other one diminished. Whichever instinct is consistently promoted over a period of time becomes the culture/value/ norm of that society just like corruption is a
standard value in the present day Nigeria. This goes to say that if Americans were to be evacuated to Nigeria and vice-versa, over a very reasonable period of time, the corrupt administrative structural system in Nigeria will wear out the dominant positive attitude of the Americans and gradually reduce them to the level of Nigerians. That is why majority of Nigerians residing overseas behave like their hosts and on their return back home, they change to be the usual Nigerians. The problem is not the people but the administrative structures and leadership. Leadership uses structural administrative system to change the society for good or bad. Nigerians are the most obedient set of human species that I have ever seen and they are excellent copy-cats of their leaders. They sheepishly follow the foot- steps and direction of their leaders without questioning. The present Nigerians that are perceived at overseas as the most corrupt on earth are reflective of the leadership and will turn out to be the most decent on earth once the leadership gets it right! Even the leadership is a victim of the corruption and faulty the structural system that encourages all forms of negative vices, hence the need for fundamental and holistic changes. The state and federal administrative structural set-ups should be fundamentally changed to achieve a truly democratic society where the rule of law reigns supreme above everyone including the presidency.

The law enforcement agents like the Police, EFCC, SSS, NIA, etc should be completely and truly independent in terms of funding and administration as it obtains in the western world. The press should be empowered by law to request for, obtain and publish documents that border on corruption and any other matters that are of public interest without being harassed by law enforcement agents. INEC should be truly and completely independent in terms of funding and administration, receiving orders from no one.
The judiciary both at state and federal levels, should be truly and completely independent and no state or federal executive should have any form of power/influence on the judiciary by making the appointment, promotion and dismissal of local, state and federal judges the sole responsibility of the National Judicial Council without seeking the permission or approval from anyone.

Electoral malpractices should attract capital punishment because such culprits are toying with the lives of millions of Nigerians!
To me, corruption should attract public execution or amputation, because it is the most dangerous and potent ‘weapon of mass destruction’! It kills enmass via road accidents, typhoid as a result of untreated water, simple diseases due to lack of adequate medical provisions etc as the budgeted funds are embezzled. When leaders at Local, State and Federal levels know that they can be exposed by the press, arrested by the police and arraigned before judges for maximum punishment without anybody (including the President) having the power to intercede, everyone will be on his/her toes! Election rigging will seize and elected leaders will have no option but to serve the people or else end up in jail. Militancy will fizzle away because leaders (executives and
law makers) can be held responsible for their actions by the poor using instrumentalities of law without any hindrance or fear, assured that pure justice will be applied. ‘God-fatherism’ in Nigerian politics will not find any footing. Graduates will not be roaming the streets for jobs reserved for the ‘connected’ ones that are even less qualified.

Factories will spring up, there would be jobs, and unemployment would be drastically reduced, if not ended. And the result would be a peaceful and blissful Nigeria.

Till then, God bless Nigeria!