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bookface:
The influence of global shocks on American economy is so minimal that it can be ignored - starting from Asian crises in 1997, Russia crises in 1998, European debt crises in 2009 etc.. America's economy is robust and diversified. While many countries are exposed to a shock in American economy, America by itself is relatively immune from a shock in other places.




You still don't get it! - There's no point going to war if victory can be achieved by sitting patiently at home while you watch your enemy implode.

In both militarily and economically, the US has huge advantages over Russia. So the US gets to choose the battle ground. If it chooses to respond militarily then there will be enormous costs - human cost, property & financial - to both sides. If it chooses to respond economically, the cost will be only to one side - Russia! The US has nothing to lose from this angle, Russia has much more to lose.

It is like fighting a pig - if you get down dirty with the pig, you will be soiled and you will stink at the end of the day - the best strategy is simply to let the pig starve.




LOL! That same route argument.

That route was opened - 8 years after NATO went into Afghanistan. If the US/NATO could survive 8 years without that route, i am pretty confident they can really do without it. Of course it will be inconvenient, but probably not the worst thing that can happen. Russia on the other hand will lose out of millions of dollars that is paid annually just to use that route. I think most people expected Russia to have closed the route already - the fact that they haven't done so shows that they consider that the benefit to them outweighs the costs to the US/NATO,



It will be the dumbest thing for Russia to do - at a time when the global supply for commodities is far more than the global demand. The cost of commodities have fallen by a large amount in the last 3 years - If Russia causes a supply shock, it will simply bring the prices back to their fair value - Russia on the other hand will see much bigger economic pain.

That's very much like shooting yourself in the foot.



Russia could derail the talks - but that will work to Iran's disadvantage not to its advantage. Iran's economy is practically stymied.




Of course some angry farmers lost their markets - but most of them are compensated by the European council...nothing to see here, move along.



This is nothing from he main stream media -

You can check here for Russia media on the story:

http://itar-tass.com/en/russia/770555 : Migrants leaving Russia due to economic hardship
http://itar-tass.com/en/economy/769170 : Putin blaming the West and corruption for economic hardship

: Russians are being advised to eat less




I never denied that the US is too big to fail. The only difference is if the US fails, it will bring down many countries along with it, including China.



Oh dear! Are you crying for Russia?




The US is actually less reluctant to sell its shale - It is Europe that is begging to buy.




It appears that critical & indepth thinking is not your forte. The collapse in oil prices is not just due to shale boom, but also due to global demand factors. The demand for oil is now lower than it has ever been in the last decade. Cars are now being built to run more efficiently with lower mpg. Fuel efficiency is the dominating theme in Europe and North America



The US have made several enemies and several partners - but speculations that the US will purposely target a country due to "de-dollarization" is simply brainless. Those who speculate "de-dollarization" in the media are mostly ignorance dunces who know nothing about global trade. Most of the countries that you mention survive only because they have a huge trade-surplus relative to the US. i.e they sell more to the US more than the US buys from them. In addition, many of them sell more goods to the US more than any country. For example, more than a fifth of china's total export is to the US - in return, China will be paid in US dollars . If China wishes to "de-dollarize" it will simply have to stop trading with the US - if it does so, many others - such as India will quickly take its place.

good points again.. I would have love to take them up as they come. But right now, something is wrong with my phone.
Once am trough with fixing it, i shall return..

And, 'am i crying for Russia? Hhahahahahaha.. Not so, brother. I was only recognizing the supremacy of God's will over our ability to live.

C u later.

Stay well.

@bookface

-that the US is a country that grows internally...

Yes.

But if you think that The US cannot be hurt by changes in the external economy, then you are in for a surprise.

The United States is the world's second biggest importer. Main imports are: capital goods (29 %) and consumer goods (26 %). Others include: Industrial Supplies (24 %); automotive vehicles, parts and engines (15 %); foods, feeds and beverages (5 %). Shipments from China represent 19 % of the total imports, followed by Canada (14.5 %), Mexico (12 %), Japan (6 %), and Germany (5 %).

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/imports

What this implies is that, any major change or torbulence, expecially as it relate to Europe, will send the US economic on a down hill.

Now, this is where the EU comes in.

Not long after the Berlin Wall fell a quarter of a century ago, the Soviet Union collapsed, the United States squandered its peace dividend in an attempt to maintain global dominance, and Europe quietly became more prosperous, more integrated, and more of a player in international affairs. Between 1989 and 2014, the European Union (EU) practically doubled its membership and catapulted into third place in population behind China and India. It currently boasts the world’s largest economy and also heads the list of global trading powers. In 2012, the EU won the Nobel Peace Prize for transforming Europe “from a continent of war to a continent of peace.”

In the competition for “world’s true superpower,” China loses points for still having so many impoverished peasants in its rural hinterlands and a corrupt, illiberal bureaucracy in its cities; the United States, for its crumbling infrastructure and a hypertrophied military-industrial complex that threatens to bankrupt the economy.
As the only equitably prosperous, politically sound, and rule-of-law-respecting superpower, Europe comes out on top, even if -- or perhaps because -- it doesn’t have the military muscle to play global policeman.

But things are changing rapidly.

The European project is currently teetering on the edge of failure. Growth is anemic at best and socio-economic inequality is on the rise. The countries of Eastern and Central Europe, even relatively successful Poland, have failed to bridge the income gap with the richer half of the continent. And the highly indebted periphery is in revolt.
Politically, the center may not hold and things seem to be falling apart. From the left, parties like Syriza in Greece are challenging the EU’s prescriptions of austerity. From the right, Euroskeptic parties are taking aim at the entire quasi-federal model. Racism and xenophobia are gaining ever more adherents, even in previously placid regions like Scandinavia.
Perhaps the primary social challenge facing Europe at the moment, however, is the surging popularity of Islamophobia, the latest “socialism of fools.” From the killings at the Munich Olympics in 1972 to the recent attacks atCharlie Hebdoand a kosher supermarket in Paris, wars in the Middle East have long inspired proxy battles in Europe. Today, however, the continent finds itself ever more divided between a handful of would-be combatants who claim the mantle of true Islam and an ever-growing contingent who believe Islam -- all of Islam -- has no place in Europe.

Notwithstanding, the real deal is the economic aspect.

The standard of living in Hungary, 25 years after the fall of Communism, remains approximately halfthat of neighboring Austria. Similarly, it took Romania 14 yearsjust to regain the gross national product (GDP) it had in 1989 and it remains stuck at the bottom of the European Union. People who visit only the capital cities of Eastern and Central Europe come away with a distorted view of the economic situation there, since Warsaw and Bratislava are wealthier than Vienna, and Budapest nearly on a par with it, even though Poland, Slovakia, and Hungary all remain economically far behind Austria.

Forget deficit spending to enable countries to grow their way out of economic crisis. Forget debt renegotiation. The unemployment rate in Greece and Spain now hovers around 25%,with youth unemployment over 50%, and all the EU members subjected to heavy doses of austerity have witnessed a steep risein the number of people living below the poverty line. The recent European Central Bank announcement of "quantitative easing" -- a monetary sleight-of-hand to pump money into the Eurozone -- is too little, too late.

The little investments it has with Russia has suffered tremendiously due to the sanctions and counter sanctions.
Now, Greece is on the verge of leaving the EU. Various member-states economies are shrinking, and should Russia crash, The EU's death would all the more be accelerated.
And the US itself would suffer massively for the following reasons.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/11/17/these-states-will-suffer-the-most-in-the-event-of-an-eu-collapse/

[quote author=bookface post=30339484]The US is a country that grows internally. It is less impacted by events or shocks in the global economy. If Russia implodes economically, Europe will suffer, but the US will barely feel a scratch.

Are you sure about this?
There is no nation in ths world that can internally generate or produce all that it needs. No nation is internally 'isolated', either from ' outside profits' or outside crisis'.
Now,if Russia implodes, and the EU suffers massively, the next on the line of the fall would be the US. The reasons are here:

http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/10.11/eurocollapse.html.

No one is an island.

There's no point using military options - too costly..

Realy? Or that u just cant walk into a nation with enough nuclear arsenals capable of exterminating the entire globe?
Lets face it! The US can not militarily directly respond to any Russian military incursion, anywhere,anyday, Let alone at its own door steps. The little it could do was train and supply arms to Russia's foes-Georgia and Ukrain. Even its so called mercenaries (we all know they are regular foreign forces-US and NATO) covertly deployed to the East of Ukrain, are being ripped apart by the seperatists.
And the US didnt think it costly to put down men there and supply weapons.

Russia has no means to fight back.

Are you kidden me?
For instance, Russia could make America’s retreat from Afghanistan a hellish experience. A key supply line, known as the Northern Distribution Network – which brings food, water and war materials that keep America’s longest war going – runs partly through Russia or allied former Soviet republics. If Putin decides to shut down the network, the only alternative for the US military would be to be totally dependent on the Pakistan route. America’s nightmare scenario is to be trapped between the Taliban in Pakistan and the Afghan Taliban in the north.

Russia's direct trade with the U.S. is limited, and its economy is much smaller — Russia's gross domestic product (GDB) is a little above $2 trillion, America's is about $16.25 trillion:
But Russia is the world's largest exporter of energy and industrial metals, and if Putin disrupted the supply of any of its international commodities, it could indirectly hit the U.S. by raising the prices of oil and the materials needed to build airplanes, cars, and scores of other big-ticket items.
Tell me that wont affect the US?

On Gas and Oil, just forget that side.
Right now, The EU is already sweating from the seemingly inevitable prospect of getting its much needed Russian gas through Turkey, a well defined EU 'hardliner'.
What abt the Iran's P5+1? Russian can choose to derail talks.

It wasnt Russians that are now burning the EU flag and trowing unsold agric products at government officials and buildings. So the claim that Russia had suffered most from that sanction is infounded.


The Russian people are getting poorer, many have lost their jobs and mortgages.
If there is one thing i hate in my life, it is outright lies and falsehood. This is the penchant of the Main Stream Media, in collaboration with the US controlled Rating Bodies. Why?
Russia is poorer on the short run. But on the long run, it shall be stronger.

Russia is not too big to fail.

So also is your 'unskated' US whose economy, responding to both internal and external factors, crashed in 2007/2008.

Dont worry, at the end of the year, by God's grace, i will chat you up to say 'rosiya'. Because this current oil price wont last long.. Not with the US shale already suffocating from its effect.

Yeah, sorry. The 2013 investment figures i quoted was my mistake.


Sanctions against Russia is almost one sided, it has absolutely no effect on the US.

On the major economic frontiers, you are right. But in terms of 'absoluteness' on all fronts, you are wrong.

Europe has business interest with Russia, but that is not what is at stake.

Then what is at stake?
I will come nack to this later.


Who cares if the Russian oil and gas network can extend to Mars?

My bro, Europe cares, and so do China.
Its better to buy a Russian gas that is twice cheaper than the shale the US can offer.


The world is fast becoming less dependent on oil and gas.

What a fairy tale-dream! They said this 30yrs ago. But there had been no time that the world had become more dependent on oil than it currently is. For better understanding,

http://www.wintershall.com/en/company/oil-and-gas/oil-can-do-more.html

and is likely to be the dominating trend till the next century.



The US cannot be bothered if Russia chooses to abandon the dollar.

wow. You interest me the more. Pls tell us. Why then are they targeting the Nations in the de-Dollarization mode? Saddam-Iraq taking out, Gadafi-Libya taking out, Sudan torn in two, Nigeria now suffocating, Venezuela, Agentina brazil and Angola in birth-pains, and now Russia. Red alert in China-Hongkong, Egypt-Muslim brotherhood.

[quote author=LRNZH post=30171421][b]Says the clueless retardeen. Get a brain my friend..

Wake up and see the writing on the wall. GEJ has turned Nigeria to a caricature.

For those wondering why the US is behaving this way it is easy to decipher.
1. Those Chinook helicopters and other sophisticated weaponry will likely end up in Boko Haram hands.-


interesting.

But wait...


Yes. We agree that at some point in the ungoing war, some members of the Nigerian Army in the field, has been caught sabotaging the efforts of the army to defeat the insurgents. These are the people we call 'the fifth columnist', and they are always present in every conflict, expecially when the Army as we know it, is 70%Northerners, with the most of them islamic. In that case, what do you expect? .
Therefore, this excuse of yours is a lame one.

Nigeria has been dashing those terrorists arms since the insurgency started-

there is a saying that ''if you are pointing to the moath in your brother's eyes, be sure that you dont have any on your own eyes'.
Since you chose to play the PR for THE UNITED STATE OF TORTURE, first ensure you have done your home work.
Pls tell us, Who is supplying ISIS with the weapons they are using? So called 'moderate rebels' in Syria that the US is supplying with heavy weapons, are defecting enmass to the ISIS, once they have been supplied. Dont tell me u dont know..? And here we are talking. The pot calling the kettle black. Nonsense!

2. The Nigeria Army has leveled villages before irrespective of whether they're terrorists or civilians.-

Your United State have killed millions of people than Hitler's Holocaust could only dream of. From Panama, to Vietnam, Serbia, Iraq, Libya, Nicaragua, just name them. And here u are defending the nation voted by millions to be 'the greatest threat to world peace'.

3. GEJ is corrupt and has no will to destroy the insurgency, so no need to waste Nigeria's funds on weapons that will not be properly put to use.-

hear you.. When the Federal Government initially made attempt to borrow 1billion Dollars for weapon purchase, to tackle the terrorists, it was people like you in the North that ran to the international community to cry that the federal government wants to 'externinate the whole North'. And here u are blaming the Man for 'lacking the will' to fight the insurgents, the same people your friends in the North initially created to 'make the country ungovernable for him'.
The height of tribal sentiment and bias.

I guess the 'United State of Satan' is putting its funds to proper use-by sponsoring wars, terrorists, colour revolutions amd false flag operations accross the globe. Thats good management,hmm?
And in case u dont know, the US and its devilish multi-national coporations are the most corrupt set of political and economic entities in the world.
Do your research.

4. GEJ and his supporting militants have been stockpiling arms for the eventuality of a GEJ electoral loss. Militants getting Chinook helicopters will be a disaster to the Niger Delta. US is avoiding such a scenario.

Hahahahaha... US avoiding such a scenario? The same US that is funding terrorists, toppling governments?
Hypocrisy at its peak.
Well, This scenario propably fit in well with the US 'forecast' (we all know is a grand plan) of the brakeup of Nigeria in this year 2015, so why complaining?

As if the US cares, why did they refuse to give you the Ebola vaccine we requested when Ebola was in Nigeria? Oh, you want to tell us that Nigeria would also have deployed it to the war front to bomb 'villages' too, right?
Haha.. I dey laugh..

And if u think that Boko Haram is majorly being sponsored from within, then you still have more work to do.

On the weapons side, yes. The likes of Tompolo and Asari have been beating the war drums. Infact, i personally dislike this two unrepented but pardoned criminals. You need to see what they are doing down here.
But with all the threat coming from the Northern side, what do you expect from such gangsters, expecially when the person concern is thier own son?

And you chipping in the president as co-conspirator, without any proof, smacks of disrespect and hatred,driven by a microscopic view of national issues, spurred on by religious and tribal sentiments and regional politics.

As long as much of us have these tendencies, it would be difficult for us to move on as a nation.

Yeah, GEJ is no saint, and has failed in many areas. Neither will Buhari fare better, and that is, if he can win even three states in the South.( the same issue of tribal politics).

But the worst is to think that the US will or is helping you. For the US have no permanent friend, what they have is permanent interest.

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Any economic sanctions imposed on Russia over its response to the crisis in Ukraine will also impact the United States and its followers. But while Moscow will dust itself off and move on, the recession-hit West needs the money desperately.

People in all free thinking countries should applaud the US call for sanctions against Russia. Why? Because it exposes the West’s complete inability to use the military option. Even if President Vladimir Putin sends all four divisions of the Russian Airborne Forces into Ukraine, the US and its allies can do very little in terms of retaliation.
As the US Congress leads the strident push for an economic boycott and the Western media keeps up the blitzkrieg of hatred against Russia, what is being ignored is that sanctions are a double-edged sword that will hurt everyone in a globalised economy. Sure, Putin will lose sleep but only because he’s laughing at the West’s clumsiness.
Face it, Russia is too big to fail
Only those who live under a rock – such as Senator John McCain, Victoria Nuland of the US Department of State and Ukrainians who have attained positions of power after a violent coup – will disagree that Russia is a wealthy country. Currently, Russia’s GDP per capita is the highest of all the BRICS countries. By 2020, the Russian economy will become the largest in Europe. Foreign direct investment into Russia rose by 83 percent in 2013 reaching $94 billion, the third highest total in the world after the US and China. That looks like a country everyone wants to do business with, not boycott.
India, China can play positive role in defusing Ukraine crisis
And it’s too integrated

This isn’t 1980, when President Jimmy Carter – a peasant way over his head in events he couldn't begin to understand – led the US and its allies to impose blanket sanctions on the erstwhile Eastern Bloc. Today, on the other hand, there is a great deal of interdependence between the Russian and European economies.
The US business community has clearly stated it wants to avoid unilateral sanctions against Moscow because it believes competitors in Europe could gain market share as a result.

“We in the business community do not want to be caught in the crossfire,” says Myron Brilliant, executive vice president of the US Chamber of Commerce.
Arnaud Leclerc, managing director of Swiss private banking firm Lombard Odier, says sanctions would harm the US. “In 2013, Russia exported goods worth $27 billion to the US and imported goods worth $11 billion from the United States,” he says.
Europe has its own interests to protect. The European Union currently ranks as Russia’s number one trading partner, accounting for almost 41 percent of all trade. Germany has invested heavily in Russia’s manufacturing sector while nearly 6,000 UK traders exported goods to Russia last year. Nearly 10 percent of Britain’s car exports are to Russia, and an even higher proportion of Germany’s.
Energy weapon

The Russian oil and gas pipeline network – which is 259,913 km long and can loop around the Earth more than six times – is the lifeline of Europe. Germany gets half of its daily consumption of 2.8 billion barrels of oil from Russia mainly via the Druzhba pipeline through Belarus. In 2012, Russia accounted for 24 percent of all gas exports to Germany, 19 percent to Turkey, 11 percent to Italy, 6 percent to France, 6 percent to the UK, 10 percent to other countries in Western Europe and 24 percent to Eastern Europe.

More about Ukraine

If Ukraine blocks Russian gas, these supplies cannot be compensated for quickly. The alternative for Europe is to import Qatari gas. But this has a nasty downside – Qatar is one of the world’s leading exporters of Islamic fundamentalism and jihadi fighters to Syria. Every euro paid for Qatari gas goes to strengthen the forces that will one day come back to haunt Europe.

Cornered bears are known to fight back

Russia has large reserves of dollars and is active in the US debt market. Currently, it holds $490 billion, the fifth largest reserves in the world. According to presidential adviser Sergei Glazyev, one option before Moscow is to abandon the US dollar as a reserve currency, or to figure out a way to use a new payments system that is not reliant on US dollars for international transactions.

Sanctions are always a double edged sword

BeeBeeOoh:
Make I just bring my lieometer for proper measurement. But, trust me North korean government still dey apprentice where Nigerian government dey...

my brother, abeg tell am.
Say north korea completely closed from the rest of the world, but them develop by far pass naija when dey open to the rest of the world...

The truth is bitter,but we can do nothing against it... Though North Korea is a repressive Nation, but some wont mind to trade places with them...

I just hope this election bring something good to Nigeria.
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of course na.. Virginity is not limited to females. U can be a virgin man. One realy have to keep its virgiinty because, its the right thing to do. For every other sin a man sinneth, is outside his body. But the sin of fornication and adultery, are sins against his own body..the temple of God. Hence, the strong warning from God to flee from sex outside marriage.

But there is a problem..

For one not to be a virgin,and not married, it points to the 'sin' of defilement of the body by act of sex-fornication or adultery. That is, one must have committed the act of sexual intercourse by full 'penetration',before he/she can be termed 'a non virgin'.
Now, (for those of us who are christians) what about those that have not tasted the 'forbidden fruit' physically, but have, at some certain times and intervals,'lust' and 'tasted' after an 'opposite sex', all within the framework and depts of thier minds, are they still virgins per sey?
I am asking because, the position of the bibil on it is very clear and explixit. The bible stance is that,

'' if you lust after a woman in ur heart. You have committed the act with her already'.

What this mean is that, even though you may not have touched or slept with a member of the opposite sex physically, still, you are guilty as when it were physical, by the 'aboundance of the thoughts of your mind'. Because, your thought is you..

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If anybody is still in doubt as to the US endgame on Nigeria, now is the opportunity to see the US for what it realy is..

The Empire has nothing good for Nigeria.

redsun:
They are probably both minority officers,Latino and black.

Animal farm.

you are very correct.
Animal Farm, where some are more equal than others.

Pathetic.

This is the question i have been asking myself too. Their mission in Sudan (which use to be Africa's largest nation) was very sucessful. Today, Libya ( that use to be Africa's best economy) is in tarters and debris, marred with chaos and anarchy. Mali is a red hot spot, the Central African Republic is in soup. And while activities seemed to have shifted a bit to the likes of Gambia's failed Anglo Imperialist sponsored coup d'tat, Nigeria, Cameroon eta, is playing host to the most brutal insurgency ever to graze the West African regional setting.

Well, if i am to guess on which is to be the next on the cabal's hit list, i think i would go for Egypt as the 'next port of call', the events are already shaping over there. After which d likes of South Adrica and co, can come into radar view.

May God help us..

When one with a conscience is made to kill and maim innocent and defenseless women and children, what else do u expect?

The blood of the innocent will always come back to haunt.

Truckpusher:
Could you please tell this house on what moral ground will your request be justified?

Some of you guys are better off left in the desert to die from simple thirst for water - You people are the problems of Nigeria for even thinking that everybody would become sensible all at once thereby creating your utopian society by default with zero hard work.

Put your asss on the ground and contribute your own small quota and if you're a genius contribute immensely and not stand by the sidewalk and making ridiculous suggestions.

Great Nations are built on the sweat and blood of their own people who believed that tomorrow would be brighter for generations unborn if they contribute positively their own quota of building a nation.

They are called patriots and not self imposed exiled men and women that wants to wake up and see all things bright and beautiful.

you can say that again ..bro

cirmuell:
@Appleyard, U're a lawyer?, little wonder. & I guess you're a muslim, yes? Well I'm a christian and I'm not on any side of the divide, I'm not in support of those #Charlie magazine stuffs neither do I condone the actions of the "terrorists". That should clear the air on where i stand.

1) In Law, "you are a suspect(not a big threat) until proven guilty(certified terrorist)" right? . Reports said they never saw these guys as big threat, yes they had one of them under watch probably for a brief period. They were probably more fixated on foriegn terrorists, they never expected the possibility of home-grown ones. If for example you travel to Iraq today & I started keeping tabs on you when you returned, where's the point in still watching you if you make no suspicious move after several years?(you've convinced me I have no reason to be too worried about you) That doesn't mean I don't have your records(everything about your life)...Contd

Yeah, I am a lawyer in equity.
No, am no muslim, but a christian, also sitting on d divide fence, just like you.

You c, I understand ur points, but when u are a lawyer, u are bound to reason logically and indeptly, connecting the facts of a given case, understanding the motives, ad it may be, and above all, drawing an inference based on the evidence and circumstances surrounding the issue, or the facts in issue of the case or problem in question.
It is under these inherent principles that, when one rigorously and analytically sujected this same issue at hand, one would, in little or no doubt, be able to see that all is not black and white as being postulated. Because, the facts are speaking otherwise.

The evidemce speaks for itself...

We have said it many a time
before now that, they so-called 'cyborgs' holding the terminal at the airport, are foreigners.. The Ukrainian regular army is not that better than an ordinary police force. No thanks to so many years of neglect and sky rocket corruption.
Now, this video has proved such assertions to be correct.
Even the weapons discovered there by the NAF happens to be American made weapons, the M4 rifles as examples. This mean the Ukrainian aid bill okayed and directed by The US congress to supply the Junta with Leather arms, now appears to be in operation, though the Obama administration had said it wont be use for the time being.

It has been revealed from intelligent reports garthered, that there are lots of them over there-both weapons and personnels of various foreign nationalities. Hence, the recent Russian Security council meeting. This may be the oppurtunity many had been praying for,cause, it was in the press conference prior to this meeting that, Putin ceased to refer to the Junta as 'the Ukrainian Government, or our partners', rather chosen to call them 'official Kiev'. It was also here that he, for the first time, called the seperatists by 'the DPR and LPR'.
What these implies is that, Russia appear to have given up on kiev to resolve the crisis through diplomatic and political means. And has formerly recognize the East as 'independent' from Kiev.

Again, since this is no longer a Ukrainian civil war, as it appears to be, given the presence of foreign troops/mercenaries in the East, it is now a direct threat to Russia itself, and so, Russia can now have the excuse to send its 'peace keepers' into the East, and you and i understands what that means...

Dont forget Georgia..

Little wonder why Russian
diplomats at various levels are 'talking tough', as in, anticipation of what is to follow (the likely reaction from the west, possibly more sanctions) in a 'now imminent' Russian direct intervention.

And as things are shaping up abruptlty, Russia has ordered its Nuclear Forces to carry out a 'warm-up' excercise. Something that was not on the basic military calender..

Lets wake up. This is no joke.

The road to World War 3 lies in Ukrain... Except God intervenes in His own unquestionable ways....

I sincerely hope that comon sense wins at the end..

cirmuell:
...Contd

Okay let all pretend a second that it really is a false flag, can you at least back it up with some substancial proof? Y'all are just screaming about ID.
* this is about the paris attack, let deal with that and leave out 9/11 consiracy theory.

Nobody here is pretending or need be, cause when u connect the various dots together, it fits in well with ' a false flag'.

And how do you expect people not to mention 9/11, when the similarities/facts between the two events are closely knitted?

I wonder what else is 'substantial proof' if the issue of the ID card can not pass for proof.
And if all the viable circumstances and intrigues, ranging from ' the French Security knowledge of the suspects before now, but conspiciously have to 'rely' on 'a tip off' from the suspects themselves to 'identify them', down to the 'bizzar' movements and behaviour of ' well established terrorists' and the police, all within 'a comic' but well edited' footage,,,, that alot of reasonable persons here have mentioned.... If all of these could not pass as ' substantial proof' to you, one wonders (and a lawyer in equity like me does) what then constitute 'circumstantial evidence' that mostly form the basics of proof in the criminal courts of law...

This is the basics for proof in this case.

The circumstances connected by the chain of causal relativism, forms the nature of the inference drawn, based on the various factual dots linking each of the evidence..

The evidence does not lie..

Continuation

For, who was the original assassins’ paymaster? Who decided to assassinate Ghadafi, Saddam, to invade Iraq twice, to turn Syria into a killing field, to set permanently in Afghanistan, to resume colonial control of so many African countries?
Starting with the “Mujaheddin” (freedom fighters) and for more than thirty years, the West has created, financed and armed extremist religious groups for its own interests – has supported any repressive, medieval and anachronistic petro-monarchy – has destroyed the few lay regimes, killing their leaders – has re-introduced torture. And now, it remotely kills desert peasants, supposed to be “enemies” (why and how they are so, we are not supposed to know, because of “National Security”).
Who is responsible or a conniver in the death of at least two million people?
For some talk-show narcissists, the slaughtered millions are not worth the life of a cartoonist, because shooting him is shooting against the freedom of expression. As if the regime media gave freedom of expression to any voice that may express an opposite point of view (see above). Not to speak of the Patriot Act (in the US), through which everyone is spied on, conditioned and preventively censured, among the almost total indifference of the citizenship.
Given the current state of media monopoly, freedom of expression means freedom to give voice to the voice of the profiteers. But who will profit from this Parisian carnage?
In more than one cynical way, it was just what the doctor ordered. Though Shakespeare would probably say, “Trust not the physician. His antidotes are poison and he slays more than you rob.”
The event removes the attention from Russia and exchanges Russia with a more malleable and less awkward enemy. Considering that the sanctions seriously damage European producers and may, in turn, produce a crack in the new world order.
Furthermore, these days, an external war is indispensable to cover-up the ongoing internal war of the rich against the poor. The cynical invention of an enemy diverts the reaction of the impoverished masses, rendered slaves of the plutocratic oligarchy, and“commanded always by the latest (media-blown) gust.” Confirming that, indeed, “such is the lightness of you common man.”
And the enemy is strategically wonderful. It is portrayed as threatening the western and European identity and tradition. A packaged message conveniently hiding the reality that the Thought-Unique (the practical meaning of the “European Union”) is destroying the roots of values established in two hundred years of conflicts and struggles – leaving now behind a vacuum of culture, an Everest of hypocrisy and affectation.
Welcome then the “conflict of civilizations”, at the time when the products of the neo-liberal civilization feel rank, and smell so much to heaven that they begin to even find hints of political opposition, in some quarters.
For, who knows, given the actual impoverishment of the 99%, someone may wonder if there are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in neo-liberal philosophy. Something other than the latest smart-phone, built by slaves, and bought by slaves-in training, at prices one hundred times greater than the actual cost – the reward for the rich.
As an Italian writer put it, a conflict of civilizations suggests that a civilization still exists, while it is the enemy who attacks the freedom that we are losing.

God help us!

I realize that, “oftentimes excusing of a fault doth make the fault the worse by the excuse”… But, just as the news of the Charlie-Hebdo massacre hit the media, I was at alert..
To begin with, as already suggested by many outside the regime media, the attack smells of 9/11 from miles away. When (on 9/11), it was discovered that its architect and organizer was an emaciated Arab with a turban, a beard and bad kidneys. Who, from a cave on the other side of the world, designed an operation worthy of science-fiction, with science-fiction scenarios, resources and coincidences, and executed with science-fictional precision.
And there is a stunning detail, almost copied and pasted from 9/11. It would be funny, were it not for the tragic nature of both events. We must “season our admiration for a while with an attent ear, as the media delivers, upon the witness of the French police,this marvel to us.” The sophisticated French surveillance system discovered the identity of the terrorists thanks to an identity card, casually abandoned on the seat of the escape vehicle, by one of them.
Frenetically running away from the scene of the crime, the terrorist had, evidently, enough time to kill. So he pulled out his wallet, searched for the card and left it in plain view on the seat.
Much like the passport of Mohammed Atta, presumed leader of the 9/11 hijackers, miraculously found, clean and undamaged, among the remnants of the disintegrated skyscrapers. Like
Oscar Wilde’ said, “I believe anything provided it is quite incredible” perfectly fits the improbability. Or, more classically, like Antipholous of Syracuse in the Comedy of Errors, you may ask yourself, “...sleep I now and think I hear all this?”
I didn’t know of or read any issue of the Charlie-Hebdo magazine. But the cartoons, liberally published on the web, are, in my view, anything but funny. The semi-pornographic representations of a naked Mohammed are poor examples of even poorer taste. Without considering that, by ridiculing the Prophet, the Charlie-Hebdo cartoonists were deliberately offending 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide. And they were also simultaneously ridiculing the poverty and the suffering, inflicted upon the Muslim world, by the rapacious and murdering arms of the Empire.
For, in a way unpredictable even 20 years ago, Islam has become the last and only credible opponent of imperial, neo-liberal economics. In other words, it is the only entity that, paradoxically, carries some echoes of the real Left – as opposed to the faux-intellectuals, liberal academics, captains of erudition, publicity seekers and sundry other pundits who, together, constitute the disposable and vendible “Caviar-Left.”
Besides, those who equate the Parisian terror attack to an attack on secularism, may want to ponder on another reality. That in many European countries ridiculing Jesus Christ, as the cartoonists ridiculed Mohammed, would end up with the ridiculer in jail, costing him very hefty fines and creating around himself a vacuum of respect.
Insulting a people because their God is different and because they are poor…. The jackals who mourn the loss of freedom of speech must have forgotten that insult triggers a reaction. That this type of insult, as a Russian saying goes, is a “spit on the soul.” And that some risk death rather than suffering insulted honor to remain un-revenged. “I beg mortality, rather than life preserved with infamy” goes a Shakespearean line but the message has a much more ancient history.
Furthermore, in the France of Voltaire, freedom of speech is anything but what it sounds. It is now illegal, for example, even to raise questions about the Holocaust.
French comedian Dieudonne’ has been judicially prevented from performing in public. And yet, listening to the available records of his performances on Youtube, the viewer has to concentrate really hard to find, in his tight Parisian argot, even a hint of satire – such as, for example, asking how many gas-chambers have been reconstructed in the concentration camp museums.
But that is enough for being accused of anti-Semitism. Not to speak of the media silence and justices’ indifference to the recurrent genocidal slaughters in Gaza and West Bank, or to the “NATO” drone killings at weddings and funerals, or to the thousands of civilians killed in Novorussia by the guns of the Ukrainian Junta forces.
So much for Western safeguard of “secular values” and freedom of speech.
It is not even a question of double standards. The media distorts the plainest facts into fanciful and imaginary narratives, leaving behind the sucking sound of a total ethical vacuum.

To be continued..

cirmuell:
...Contd

How they were able to identify them?
* The french police has been on their(may be one of the brothers) case no be today, they just didn't see them as a big threat. Both were born raised an radicalized in France. That means they've got all the info on these guys, a simple ID left by one of them is enough to tell who he is and a background check to know who is with him(all this can happen within just minutes, no be Nigeria where there's no single record or database)

* Like I mentioned earlier, the fact that he's with an ID is another issue entirely(& no one can ever know why he's with it). But guy, even high caliber 'masked' robbers have been caught with their ID's found on crimes scenes(did they go with it intentionally too? and left it there intentionally?) did you see how sloppy those guys were? Did you notice they even almost ran into eachother? Did you see the other guy pick something from the floor beside the hatchback getaway car? tell me that's a guy that wanna leave 'anything' behind.

Good points. But lets take these issues one after the other.

1) The french police had been walking on them since... This makes it the more interesting. If they have been working thier case ever since, it then implies that, they must have been monitoring them, easvesdropping on thier conversations, bugging thier communications, agents trailing thier every moves, keeping close tabs on thier level and degree of interrelationships with the outside, etc etc etc.. Therefore, they (the seurities) are able to pre-empt them before they could carry out thier nefarious activities.. This is what intelligence bodies do,not to mention the highly sophisticated nature of the French Secret Service. But was this the case? Never! Rather, what we have is a situation in which, the police were ' miraclelously' able to identify the suspects by virtue of a ' wonderfully' forgoten ID card-- The same set of people on which they had a 'complete dossier'. Does it make any sense at all?

The whole thing smells of a foul play, even from afar...

2) On the ID... Pls dont make me laugh. We are not talking of some shoplifters whose carelessness and recklessness can make them pass for ' Sony Max World Most Dumbest Criminals' on Nash videos. Nor are we talking about an armed robber with the usual level of adrenaline and operating in panick mode, thereby becoming susceptible to such errors. What we are talking about is people with high intelligence, the criminaloids. People who plan in stages and reason geometrically. Who carefully mapped out thier strategies, weighed the cost and chances of success or failure. People that knows no fear, cos they understand that, the ultimate price, is death. A death which they see as 'a holy passge to paradise', hence, no reason to fear. Such is the nature of a true religious and islamic extremist.
But since any of these was not evident in this case, the excuse that the suspects out of panick and fear left the ID behind, does not hold water.

The ID card thing is a clear copy from 9/11.

3) On the video... If one is not bias, then a careful and critical study of the footage should reveal that there were series of ' cut-ins and cut-outs' editing, as it relate to the movement, apperance and disappearance of the suspects and police officers concerned. Pls just study the video..
Everyone cannot be fooled all the time.

4) On the suicide... It was at this stage that i shook my head in pity.. The lenght at which men can go in securing thier interesst... A police officer in charge of the investigation comits 'suicide'? A man that is full of life, healthy, not suffering from any terminal ailment, suddenly became disillusioned with life, and abruptly decided to ' pull the plug' on his life.....? Very pathetic. And What a perfect time to comit 'suicide'.
Yeah, of course, they will tell us the usual stories.. 'he has been self withrawn for some time now', 'or maybe the wife ran away' bla bla blah... How satanic this world has become..

But they didnt tell us that the man knew too much, nor are some of us considering that possibility. Instead, we chose to believe the 'false reality' dished out by the Main Stream Media. Just the same way many accepted the 9/11 lies, until now that the truth is in the open.

The circumstances surrounding the events in France, Ukrain etc, is a case of ' rep ipsa loquitor'...... The thing speaks for itself..

The evidence and facts does not lie...
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