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WritterNg:
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bryght4u:
LordAdam16 shared a link a while ago that Satanyahu wants to move in and finish off the job he began last month.
Like I posited earlier, Israel will strike Iran sooner than we have time to exhaust our debate on the timeline of their next attack.
We all know how bloodthirsty Zionists truly are.
Iran getting much needed help from China is sweet music to our ears - those of us who support the rise of multipolarism and dethroning the monstrous Hegemon that is Uncle Sam.
Iran should show haste.
Time's short!
Satanyahu will try again to sabotage her from the inside and if they do not limit or totally eradicate Mossad's leverage over them, then they aren't truly a people we should be here wasting precious time in cheering them on to take responsibility!

WritterNg:
⚡Various Iranian lawmakers are warning President Pezeshkian, stating that if he does not change the weak behaviour of the government, the Parliament may move towards impeaching him.

WritterNg:
For those that keep saying US/Israel air defense systems are better than Russian air defense systems.

What happened to the recent Ukrainian HIMARS, drone and missile strikes? Over 300 missiles/drones.

Bcuz even Ukranian channels have not reported a single hit.

Over a dozen Storm Shadow missiles and Sea USVs were launched at the Crimean Bridge alone.

What happened to them?

This is just one instance oh, it happens everyday but does not make the news.

The last Iranian strike was about 300 missiles and at least 40% got through and we all saw the destruction it caused. Israel is the most defended airspace on earth.

WritterNg:
God abeg 🙏🏻 🥹

bryght4u:
What are Tehran's plans on acquiring the desperately needed AWACs to integrate with her proposed fighter jets?
There will soon be a version 2.0 of the 12 days war.
I really do hope the Iranians are up for it.
Israelis are savages.
They'd spare no one - nothing - as they leave destruction on their trail.
Big Daddy Uncle Sam is out to make sure any and every power that could pose a semblance of a threat to its most beloved son's absolute dominance of that part of the world would be brought to her knees.
That bloodthirsty duo would stop at nothing to see Iran bend the knee and crawl!
Iran has held its own for so long, I really do hope her government possesses the wherewithal to truly lead her people and come up with creative solutions to stand up to the threat that is Israel and not keep losing precious lives to that vile creation that otherwise would not be lost.
It seems, to me, that Tehran's leadership style is reactive rather than proactive. That is anything but inspiring.

WritterNg:
But with Taiwan, Japan and South Korea on the US side, can China really win?

Many NATO also have great shipbuilding industries.

While in BRICS, only Russia and China.

LordAdam16:
Washington already has the schematics and "secrets".

India and Turkey are not Fort Knox.

Putin should keep playing games.
China has hundreds of AD systems.
Iran should strike a deal for urgent transfer.

-Lord

WritterNg:
Yeah Saudi already has S-400 air defense systems deployed.

They got them before the THAAD.

Who no like better thing.

LordAdam16:
It was the Patriot system.
They just inaugurated the first THAAD system in SA within the last two weeks.

By the way, Putin offered Saudi Arabia the S-400.
So I don't see how Russia would offer Saudi Arabia the S-400 but not Iran.

-Lord

Gerrard59:
The thing that has always surprised me is how Russians are disregarded by Western Europeans. They treat Chileans (obviously white people) better than Russia. Could it be as a result of the history between Russia and the West?

Lawag3:
If that's badly beaten then what do we call Iran's own soundly deafeted.


Lost a lot of high ups lost their nuclear facilities lost their nuclear scientists lost up to 650 IRCG personnels. Israel had freedom of operation in Iranian skies could assassinate or attempt to assassinate any one including the supreme leader if Israel wanted to more than the amount of buildings you claim were destroyed in Israel would have been destroyed in Tehran itself.


Iran was nearly as naked as GAZA let that sink in.

Iran's strategy was shoot and hope it beats the Israeli air defence with sheer speed less than 30 percent did.


Iran quickly lap up peace like a starved dog and was allowed to let out steam.


Israel proposed peace because it's goals have been met Iran accepted it because it could have been worse for them to keep on fighting. We will close the straits of Hormuz they closed nada.

We will stop if they stop. That was pathetic.


If I were Iran and I claimed to be winning the war that I did not start will end when I'm sure me enemies cannot carry out another attack.


Let Iran try to rebuild it's nuclear Facilities let's see what a badly beaten Israel will do to Iran again.

Iran was defeated? It's all right.

Lawag3:
You use the word “badly beaten”


We all know here that Israel was hit no one's denying that. And yes Israel was hit hard. Only novices will expect Iran not to hit Israel hard. The damage could have been worse if not for Israel AD

Crayfish09:
I stand corrected. But there weapon costs in general are mpractical against modern adversaries. S-400 interceptors cost between $300,000-1,000,000 per round but with thaad, we're talking about $12-15 million dollars per shot. The Arrow costs $3 million. I don't care if they are is superior to the S-400, it is impractical and this war has prove that

Godstime001:
For full 2 weeks now i have been reading in peace. No gbadebo, disobedience and thta dynaso gal

Lawag3:
when did trump say so.

baqirshuayb:
Israeli Channel 13:

There are numerous casualties at army bases and strategic facilities following the Iranian missile strikes.

The destruction of Weizmann Institute is known, but there are many other locations we have not yet discussed.

Fash20:
Thank Seun for the block button

Alamkiir:
Ali Shamkhani, senior advisor to Supreme Leader Khamenei, shows up in Tehran. Israel claimed earlier that he was killed.

Igbofam must have been the one responsible for peddling such misinformation on behalf of the IDF.

FoolishBoy419:
This is what I find frustrating about you guys. You are never constructive. Lord Adam acknowledged and re-acknowledged the loss of generals, loss of air defense capabilities, and every other achievements of Israel and yet that didn't deter you from stating them yet again. Get creative for once. Evolve!

There is no one outside of Iran that can factually tell you whether Iran's nuclear program has been destroyed or not. No one. Anything anybody says is guess work at best. and assuming those facilities are truly down, what do you say about their already enriched uranium and the possibility of Iran owning other secret facilities?

The IAEA has no doubt been feeding information to the CIA and Mossad, and that shouldn't surprise anyone really. And suppose they find out about another enrichment efforts from Iran, what can Israel really do about it? What can they do differently? If they took out the Ayatollah, another one would step in. If they took out more generals, others would take their place while Israel gets more rapidly deindustrialized and Iran continues its enrichment. The only reason Iran cannot deter Israel is because Israel has the world's richest countries bankrollig it. USA burned 800 million dollars on their THAAD alone just to protect Israel. They also have certainty that their sugar daddy will get directly involved once the need arises. If Iran can get China to support her in a similar fashion or defend her territory the way Westerners tried to defend Israel, no amount of 'provocation' would make Israel throw a stone at Iran, because they know they would get crushed. Imagine Chinese Jets patrolling the skies of Iraq while Iran sends barrage after barrage of missiles at Israel. That's exactly the kind of scenario the Wes was aiming for in this war.

If Israel could flatten Tehran, a city much bigger than Gaza and 1600 kilometers away, they could have done so assuming the entirety of Israel wouldn't get flattened by the time they are done. The world has lost its illusions on Israel's barbaric nature.

As for their self acclaimed low death toll, you can thank the nature of Iranian attacks for that. It is almost impossible for Iran to eliminate human targets in Israel when there are satellites to inform you as soon as a ballistic missile is airborne. That is a genuine shortcoming that needs to be addressed.

I also suggest that you're careful with the words you throw around. If only fools hold back in wars, then Russia, USA, and even Israel are full of fools. Iran could have destroyed Israel's water supply and plunged them into crises, but they held back. Likewise, Israel could have taken down all of Iran's oil facilities or simply used a nuke. Russia could have used strategic nukes on Ukraine, and USA could have saved itself in Vietnam with a single thermonuclear warhead. So no, only fools throw all their cards at a go and I can't believe an adult thinks otherwise.

LordAdam16:
Iran's gains

1. Iran preserved its nuclear program.
2. Iran foiled USreal regime change operation and gained more legitimacy after 90m Iranians rallied around the flag. Out went anti hijab protests. In came "strike Tel Aviv" protests.
3. Iran found a legitimate reason to stop all cooperation with the IAEA. The IAEA forwarded names of Iranian nuclear scientists to Mossad to be assassinated. For the foreseeable future, Iran can now build, transfer, and expand its nuclear program without IAEA interference.
4. Iran demonstrated that it could singlehandedly destroy Israel by conventional means. No nukes necessary.
5. Iran demonstrated that all US bases in every Gulf country can be destroyed in a confrontation.

Israel's losses

1. Israel's air of invincibility has been irreparably shattered.
2. Israel threw the first sucker punch, retained the element of surprise, had active assistance from the US + NATO + Gulf Vassals with land-, air-, and sea-based air defense systems. Regardless, it incurred more damage in 12 days than it sustained in 2 years of war prior to the 12 day war. Satanyahu came on air and admitted that he could not continue a war of attrition. Iran did this alone.
3. 17,000 Israelis were displaced. Citizens were held hostage. Nationals escaped in yachts. Tens of thousands of buildings were destroyed. Port, Refinery, Military Facilities, Government installations, Research facilities, Office complexes were all targeted and destroyed. Iran reserved the capacity to destroy 80% of Israel's water supply but held back for obvious reasons. All of Palestine was Iran's canvas.
4. Iran was open to making compromises on enrichment. Iran has walked back those moves. It now pursues a steely strict red line on enrichment, its missile program, and its relations with regional paramilitary allies.
5. Iran's nuclear program, formerly visible to the West-controlled regulatory organization has gone dark. Enrichment and indigenous weaponization will continue unabated.
6. Israel's decades-in-the-making spy network in Iran has suffered the worst setback in Mo$$ad history. This will continue. Iran will deport Israeli intelligence ready supply of illegal aliens, uncover cells and execute the agents, destroy Israeli cache of drones and sabotage equipment, and more.
7. The Iranian liberal Western-aligned bloc that had accumulated decades worth of political capital and infiltrated all the way up to the President has lost its momentum. As in Russia, the fifth column have been exposed as collaborators of the enemies of Persia. All of the effort built over decades with the assistance of Western intelligence and Diasporan monarchists/liberals/westernophiles. Poof. Gone in smoke in 12 days.

The Iran of June 1, 2025 and the Iran of June 27, 2025 are two very different entities. The former treated Israel an irritant that it had to be careful with because it wanted closer relations with the West through sanctions relief. The latter will treat Israel as an existential threat to its 5,000 year civilization. Sanctions be damned.

It will expand its missile arsenal with one goal in mind. Congratulations, y'all played yourselves.

-Lord

Michaeltreasure:
I get your point. I'm just saying Iran needs to do more in my own point of view. Calling this a victory to me makes no sense. Israel will attack again and again. After the exchange last year, people bragged that Iran has put Israel in its place. Unfortunately, look at where we are today.
Until Israel can no more attack Iran, to me this is no victory from both sides...

WritterNg:
The Israeli Defense Minister boasted that an event that will make the pager explosions look like child's play will happen the following Friday.

That was last week by the way. Mossad cells got busted, foiling all their plans.

First to do no dey pain. These people have taught Iran and Russia how to carry out proper terrorism.

They'll suffer for years to come. Terrorists worldwide are watching and learning. By the time pagers, iPads and cell phones start exploding in US bound flights, they'll realize what they've done.

Russia killed 2 Ukrainian Army Lt. Colonels using a package explosion just last week. It was reported on Ukranian telegram channels.

Western media hid it from the public because they encouraged it.

dermmy:
But my own is Iran should not have waited till this moment. Just imagine they had been doing this operation for years and they were serious with it. Now it's time for the country to be serious with this Mossad infiltration

Michaeltreasure:
I love this thread alot, but the level of narrative twisting to change facts here is extreme. Israel truly got a bleeding nose in this conflict but to say that Iran, who lost top military and civilian leaders, with a Mossad infested defense system, won the war should be the comedy pinnacle of the century.
Someone here was saying that Israel hid much of her casualties, meanwhile the Internet was shut down in Iran all through.
I can't imagine celebrating victory after a fight that killed the members of my team, no member of my opponent team is dead, and a ceasefire that was planned and brokered by my opponents team. That's the joke of the decade.
Few pro Iranians here have seen through the thing. Celebrating mediocrity is nonsensical. Iran needs to up their game. Their intelligence is whack. They're always in the defensive instead of in the offensive, they always wait for Israel to attack before standing up to act. They are always caught off guard. Haniyeh was killed in Tehran of all places and people here are celebrating imaginary Iranian victory.
Will Putin celebrate if Ukraine takes out his top scientists and generals right in the heart of Moscow? Sounds stupid right?

WritterNg:
⚡Iran says 700 people arrested for spying for Israel over 12 days; around 10,000 drones seized in Tehran alone.

Raynald:
This was Israel objective
Iran must never have a nuclear weapon
Here is what they achieved
1.Iran nuclear facilities were bombed and buried, moving them years backward
Even if the moved some enriched uranium
They will have to set up new facilities where they are constantly under Israel and USA surveillance
2.Iran top military leaderships were eliminated
3.Iran launchers and missile production facilities were crippled.Taking years to replenish
4.There was total control of iranian airspace
That was want Israel achieved
Now list Iranian achievements in this 12 days war

Like it or not, with this monumental failure, Netanyahoo has destroyed years of yardwork and huge resources expended over time to setup the Israeli spy network deep in Iran. By the time Israel will recover from this and reestablish such level of sophistication again, Iran would have gotten his N-bomb.

Thanks to mad man Netanyahoo.

2. Assassinating some top brass officers might be a nice achievement to you, after all, it was a surprise attack, but not a critical one in this regard because without them, Iran still kicked the IDF's butt both within and thousands of miles far away from its own turf. It shows that the men you killed can be replaced but an ideological will to survive cannot be killed.

LordAdam16:
Always a pleasure to read an informed statement by an enthusiast who knows what they're talking about.

If the Vietnam war occurred today, apparently the likes of seunny4lif and others will be telling us the US won because they killed Vietnamese in high numbers and Vietnam never struck the US.
They would also tell us the Taliban lost the war in Afghanistan because they never killed a US general in 20 years of war.

This is a very clear victory for Iran.
Anyone who wants to inhale unhealthy doses of copium is free to do so.

-Lord

LordAdam16:
That's a lazy, false take.
Israel had the element of surprise and most of the high-profile casualties Iran suffered were from that surprise attack.
Israel started this war to end Iran's nuclear program by military means.
If they had succeeded, they would have progressed to a regime change operation.
Iran beat them back, in spite of Israel's early advantage.
It retains its nuclear program, ended any prospect of regime change, and retains all its red lines stipulated during negotiations.

You should take a breather.

-Lord

LordAdam16:
Satanyahu don dribble himself.
He lost the war on Day 3.

Na SURRENDER remain.

-Lord