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I knew from the beginning that Russia was not the villain. The US is the world's biggest purveyor of violence.

sonmvayina:
ISAIAH 53: REASONS WHY JESUS IS NOT THE SUFFERING SERVANT

THE TEXT: ISAIAH 52:13-53:12

13. Behold, My servant shall prosper, he shall be exalted and lifted up, and shall be very high.

14. According as many were appalled at you–so marred was his appearance unlike that of a man, and his form unlike that of the sons of men.

15. So shall he startle many nations, kings shall shut their mouths because of him; for that which had not been told them shall they see, and that which they had not heard shall they perceive.

Who would have believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
For he grew up before Him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry land; he had no form nor comeliness that we should look upon him, nor appearance that we should delight in him.
He was despised, and rejected of men [e-shim: “men of high status”], a man of pains, and acquainted with disease, and as one from whom men hide their face: he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
Surely our diseases he did bear, and our pains he carried; but we considered him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
But he was wounded as a result of our transgressions, he was crushed as a result of our iniquities. The chastisement of our welfare was upon him, and with his wounds we were healed.
All we like sheep did go astray, we turned every one to his own way; and the Lord has visited upon him the iniquity of us all.
He was oppressed, though he humbled himself and opened not his mouth; as a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and as a sheep that before her shearers is dumb; and opened not his mouth.
From dominion and judgment he was taken away, and his life’s history who is able to relate? For he was cut off out of the land of the living; as a result of the transgression of my people he has been afflicted.
And his grave was set with the wicked, and with the rich in his deaths; although he had done no violence, neither was there any deceit in his mouth.
And it pleased the Lord to crush him–He made [him] sick. If he would offer himself as a guilt-offering, he shall see seed, he shall prolong days. And the purpose of the Lord will prosper by his hand.
From the labor of his soul he shall see; he shall be satisfied. With his knowledge, the righteous one, my servant, shall cause many to be just. And their iniquities he shall bear.
Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the mighty; because he had poured out his soul to death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Herein we concentrate on showing why Isaiah 53 does not refer to Jesus. In countering Christian claims concerning the Suffering Servant passage it is really sidestepping the issue to discuss if it refers to the coming Messiah or national Israel. Significant though it is to establish this identification the conversation with Christianity is really about their claims concerning Jesus.

In developing the Jesus myth several traditions developed among distinct groups of followers of what was eventually called Christianity. Various strains of tradition were brought together in forming the New Testament. They were not uniform in their message as each told the Jesus story from the perspective of its own community needs. Isaiah’s Suffering Servant played a decisive role in forming the Jesus myth among certain Christian groups. It provided an outline to guide them in describing what they imagined Jesus’ ministry to have been. There is no doubt that the New Testament authors had the suffering servant in mind in developing their respective works. But this does not prove Jesus is the servant. In the traditions coming down to them concerning Jesus they did not fully eliminate the contradictions between the description of the servant and the description of Jesus. As a result, we are still able to get a glimpse of why Jesus is not the servant from their very own writings.

“Behold My Servant”

Why the epistle sir?

So, you base your belief on the writing of someone whose article has no proof whatsoever? Unbelievable!

The writer clearly said the "New Testament writers" based their knowledge of Christ on Isaiah 53. What does that even mean? So you're saying the different accounts about the life of Christ, written by several people, were based on the book of Isaiah 53? Even his disciples who weren't literate? Or are you saying that some people just sat somewhere and wrote the books, even Pauline doctrine all by themselves and called it the New Testament?


I actually thought you'd come up with proven facts, biblically or historically why you think the way you do, not this nonsense writeup that says nothing actually.



Shalom.

Tinubu's strategy scares me.

sonmvayina:
I sure do sir...and it is not talking about jesus..because it is not a messianic prophesy..

You want me to go on..?

Please go on because I want to know how you can prove your point that it's not a messianic prophecy.

[quote author=oyekanwahab post=120505946][/quote]Thanks man.

Unfortunately, he can and most likely will.

What I want to know is their uplink and downlink speed.

Is it an Estate land?

sonmvayina:
Mine was Understanding Isaiah 53 properly.....and that God hates human sacrificing....including the sacrificing of jesus. That was enough for me. I have a much better connection with my Creator now..

And also...All of Paul's letters.

You don't understand Isa. 53 & all of Paul's letters, or you don't agree with them?

And if Tinubu wins, what happens then? They're all the same bro, don't be fooled. Buhari had more clout than this in 2015, see what is happening now.

Jeon:
Yet, some of them pass through shit.



Seriously!!!
I never knew.
Asap rocky is a gay.
Offset is a womanizer,cheating on Cardi b, even though she pay all the bills.
Kevin or Kenny is a rapist that turned Nicki Minaj in a punching bag.

So you see those women still have their standards.
Why did riri not choose offset or Kenny as her spouse?.
Or
why did Nicki and Cardi go for those @bold when we have Lil dicky, Lil durk and the rest Lil Lil Lil Lil Lil?

So, what's your point actually?

Such deep-seated bile! 😠😠

Are you drunk?

SultanOfPuna:
If you check Righteousness first post on Nairaland it is from 2017
In that post he warns about the endtimes will soon happen.

From 2017 to 2023 that makes it 7 YEARS of preaching doomsday.
And nothing has happened.

If you ever feel bad for yourself
Just know that a mentally unstable man has been screaming end time for 7 years.

I'm very sure when my 1 year old son turns 26 years. Righteousness will still be screaming endtimes..

Mental health is no joke
Pray for this mad man called Righteousness

That doesn't mean we're not in the end of times.

Solar power is sustainable but the technology is still in it's infancy.

I can tell you for a fact that many of these men you think lack taste have actually tried many of the women you consider attractive and found them unsuitable to spend their lives with.

I can also tell you that men only want peace of mind in their marriages and the women who give them that are the ones you consider less attractive. Their men think otherwise.

Also, Nigerian women have become troublesome and less feminine, hence only rich and bad guys who'd only sleep with them date them. They're only trophy girlfriends or wives. The men still sleep around with other women that give them peace.


The crux of the matter is that men would only be with women, who're feminine enough and who bring out the manliness in them. The rest are just a show of their 'triumph'.

Another day, another dollar.

I thought you used to smoke Cameroonian weed, why did you switch to Somalian? Damn, your dealer must be arrested! 🤨🤨🤨

This confirms Tinubu's outburst in Abeokuta. 🤔

One word: traffic.

Germany should carry her own cross. When Trump warned the EU from allowing Arab immigrants in, they demonized him, called him all sorts. Angela kept letting them in from Syria, Iraq and most of the Arab world.


You cannot be friends with extremists who don't see you worthy enough to live because of your belief. Same thing is happening in France, not all is being reported. The world is watching.

Emmanuella00:
From your keyboard.
It has been updated.
Trying using any emoji from your keyboard it'll work.

Thanks, Ella.

Emmanuella00:
Dey play 🚶‍♀️🚶‍♀️

Where are you people getting these emojis? I've checked everywhere I can't get them.

I don't like this Pope, I've never liked him. He loves making politically correct statements. He's not straightforward in his ways. The same Pope who angrily tapped a woman who held him joyously.

The Bible is clear about Sodomy. Any contrary opinion doesn't change anything. God is God eternally.

This was expected. No one would expect any King to chase him away from the palace because they don't like his father.

If Obi goes to the palace of Oba of Lagos and his son goes with him, he'd likely be honoured too. Nothing surprising here.

Minjim:
And Germany and France don't have nukes?

What do you think their nukes are meant for?

Some use nukes to defend their country others use it to look for trouble

Baba, Germany and France live comfortably and can't risk a WW2 scenario happening again. Everyone including the US is focused on growing their economies because of China, no needless war on anybody's agenda.

Let Ukraine try bomb Russia and see what happens. NATO would never risk a confrontation with Russia.

owobokiri:
He's free to move around Abia State and enjoy the warm spirits and welcoming culture of the great people of Abia State. This is not his Lagos State where having any sort of different political choices have now been openly criminalized

Inspite of all the killings and injustices directed at the people of this ebullient state by the Buhari administration supported and funded by Tinubu, our people are culturally programmed to safeguard visitors and treat them with care.

Maybe Mr Buulaabuuluu will learn a thing or two to teach his platoon of agbadorian Awawa boys and One million boys on how to allow everyone living in their land to make their political choices and vote as they wish. This is important because any attempt to force non indigenes to vote according to the dictates of the APC over there, will surely be challenged and resisted.

But you said he could not campaign in the SE...

SmartPolician:
The media knows how to create unnecessary tension. Nothing in the details shows its in US territorial waters.

What I know for certain is that Russia cannot defeat all the NATO member states, no matter how hard they try. Las las, civilians will bear the brunt.

Which European country wants to fight with Russia? They're all too comfortable with their lifestyle that they can't risk going to war. That all depend on the US to play the big brother role. It'd be easier for Russia to defeat NATO with just few nukes on Germany and France, the rest will flee.