Nnewi of onitsha

babapupa:

What different does it make? What issue are you talking about? Sure it sounds funky to you, but what part of my post was false?

There would not have been any issue if abia state is discussed not this 'igbo kidnapping igbo rants' as if it was otherwise.

babapupa:




I see what you're saying, I feel comfortable talking about Lagos state because it's my state, I stood by my state when it was bleeding and crying for help. All that aside, we all have our shortcomings, I don't get why you felt the need to point finger at Yoruba people and Yoruba state the minute I said something about the kidnappings in Aba, it was an unnecessary defensive act, no need to get into tribal pride because other people are saying something about your state, your state is in the news and it's only natural for people to say something,

dayokanu:

You know Beckham too is much more popular than Zidane. .  .  . . .

How do you measure talents? Ability to do leg over? Would you say Denilson of Real Betis is better than Zidane because he appears to be more skillful or would you say Robinho is better than Kaka, because these players would rather dribble just to make fans shout when a simple pass would suffice

Going by talents, Etim Esin should also be nominated for awards as he was probably Nigerias most talented player ever

afam4eva:

Even finidi cannot rank higher than Okocha. Pls let's not make a joke out of this. This is ridiculous to say the least.

dayokanu:

Yekini is still the first Nigerian footballer to score a World cup goal, 3rd highest goal scorer at African nations Cup, and one of the few Nigerian Striker to emerge top scorer in a mid-top rated European league

Pls bring out facts and tell us what makes Okocha better than these players apart from telling us that he can raise the ball for 2 hours non-stop

dayokanu:

All of them are better footballers and achieved more in their footballing career than Okocha

dayokanu:

Why should Okocha be nominated? Among Nigerian footballer would he even make top 5?

Oliseh, Finidi, Yekini, Amokachi and Taribo would rank higher

Olaolufred:

The list as far military dictators are concerned is ok.

My only Issue is that Ironsi should have not been on the list.He is the first coup plotter in Nigeria.

Though killed as soon as he got power.

If he made the list, then muritala should have been there.

This two are not dictators. But for the rest, they are worse than Idi Amin.

MaziUche0:

I haven't seen much development in Arochukwu. SO yes, he is neutral.

MaziUche0:

The Ngwa have not shown that they rule there own area, you expect us from the other areas will support them as governors?

A person from Umuahia is very neutral.

daylae:

@phantom I understand your predicaments,and i sympathize with you and your comrades;but you shoundn't come out, all-sentimental about honest comments being made here,just to correct someon's wrong insistent. Maybe if you guys stop the animosity towards your own kinds,this thread would av been intented for the total opposite of what you're seeing now. Just bear with it!

I just also need to put to you that,even though i did mention ibadan is not going at the pace it should be,it can still afford to slumber a century,while the east will never meet-up due to the level of lawlessness,and total extintion of human value we are having there. Nothing good can take place where there's no peace!

Onuohasworld:

Boy,d police in aba swung into action dis mornin hijackin any humanbeing waikin in our street, pls re d innocent citizens now d kidnappers?so much 4 police work.

bidemi12:

follow the track record in all situations where the government have utilised the army and tell me if this has brought lasting solution to any crisis in Nigeria. where will they start the investigation? you and i know their "investigative" technique involves rounding up everybody[b] and trying to beat the truth out.

davidif:

Its so sad that useless jerks like Aguiyi Ironsi and Ifeajuna decided to destroy this country. I am not saying that the govt at the time was perfect because Festus Okotie Eboh (Finance Minister) was a thief but the millitary had no business messing with civillian affairs. Democracy corrects itself and takes care of the culprits but the millitary hardly has any checks and balances that democracy was supposed to provide.

chyz:

She was kidnapped in Lafia, Nasarawa State, which is her hometown.

femi4love:

Are you saying we should now forget about the reality of God because some of us have been deceived by people claiming to know God?

femi4love:

Sorry to know about your "experience" but you are not the only one. It may sound like rubbish, but I personally prefer someone who believes in God to be my country's PM or president than someone who doesn't believe in God.
Whatever he does with his belief and his acts will be judged eventually by God.

Whether we like it or not, a person's belief will have an influence on him/her no matter how obvious or little it is.

tensor777:

Well there are issues you highlighted that are factors that have led to this current imbroglio. A hyperactive nature, the desire to get involved in rapid money-making ventures, and a hard core of very experienced violent criminals.
That being the case it is clear that the Nigeria Police Force lacks the training, the manpower, and the orientation to tackle these hyperactive criminal elements living in and around Aba.
Security in the state has to be taken over by units of 82 division and the SSS with these being granted full powers of arrest,interrogation and preventive detention.
This security issue has to be dealt with[b] BEFORE [/b] political activists in the area are granted their wish of a new state. It is that simple.

tpn:

Common .you should stop spreading lies.Gov Ohakim said it when he paid a courtesy visit to the governor of Lagos state.

femi4love:

@KoboJunkie

There's no way someone who doesn't believe in God will have the fear of God, even when it comes to dealing with others. Some who claim they know God don't even manifest the fear of God, how much less atheists?

slap1:

Chinenye is right. Aba State will solve the problem up to 70%. (1) The reason this kidnapping thing is just becoming serious, despite the fact that it started months ago, is because there is no govt. presence in Aba. Everything about Abia State revolves within Umuahia.(2) Aba State means the monthly allocations would be for Aba's deuelopment, not for planting trees and flowers in Umuahia. When this happens, the people can rightly ask: where is our money?if nothing concrete is on ground. (3)It will no longer be a problem if T.A. Orji pays a group of greedy journalists to write a special report on Abia State after taking pictures of Umuahia and Abia Tower from seperate angles, etc, forgetting that Aba is part of Abia State. Ask yourself why there is little or nothing to show of Aba in these special reports. Ngwa people are maltreated in that state, seriously.

tensor777:

I don't know for sure about the genesis of violent criminality in Aba.
But presumably it emanated from get rich quick mentality as well as an already existing culture of violence. Aba in the 1980's was already infamous for its violent street life.
No doubt population growth, as well as the migration of unskilled young men from the surrounding villages to Aba then led to this present execrable situation

tensor777:

That sounds like a cop-out. We are all at the end of the day fully accountable and responsible for our actions as individuals. There is a culture of violent criminality amongst certain segments of the Aba populace. It is that culture that is at the root of its current malaise and not the lack of infrastructure which in any case is exarcebated by this violent criminality.

ChinenyeN:

I won't deny the sense in the above quote, but I'm still for the demand. At least, then we will have the opportunity to define our own selves for ourself, within this Nigerian construction.

ChinenyeN:

I won't deny the sense in the above quote.

ChinenyeN:

So, Pan-Igbo-ists, this issue is an 'Ngwa problem' eehn kwa? Convenient people. Whatever happened to your "Igbo brother" rhetoric? What happened with your "One Igboland" rubbish? Does it no longer apply here? *a maa osnu*
(if you feel the above rant does not apply to you, then don't worry about it).

Anyway, back at the topic, the thing that upsets me the most about all of this is not the goings on, but that I feel weak; incapable. I am unable to do anything about any of this, and that's what upsets me the most. I owe a debt to the land, but I'm in no position to pay up. It upsets me. Then there the issue of Aba state. I've always been for that demand, but no way would I have ever imagined that people would go to these lengths for it. It's upsetting. This is not how I envisioned the creation of Aba state to come about.
Regarding the issues on-ground, no one can be trusted at this time to do anything for the people, except the people themselves, but from the much I gather, they seem in no position to do anything for themselves. Honestly, this situation has me very upset (to put it lightly). I'm so upset that I no longer feel ashamed; just upset. O nu m la aguwa adigh nko ma nnaa.
What have you been hiding under a rock or something?

EzeUche, you are foolish.
Although, it seems like you're trying to be funny in the above quote, the bolded is the truth.

All Saints Church In Houston
Written by Loya Eziokwu
Tuesday, 04 August 2009
Our second leg of our Houston visit took us to worship at the All Saints Anglican Church on Synott Rd, off Bissonett. The Church, built by Umu Igbo is completely awesome. Occupying a 4 acre tract, the edifice will clearly take your breathe away. Unlike what Nigerians would build, the parking lot is so spacious, there is no need to acquire additional land. The sanctuary, still absorbing finishing touches, comes with all the amenities modern technology can give. There are lots of offices for everybody. The kitchen really will make any Igbo woman so happy she will forgo the next abada. Now comes the biggest winner, the giant hall that can comfortably sit 1,000 people. I look at the monthly statement of the church and I can see why that hall has the potential of paying a lot of bills for the church. Thanks to Dr. Ken Okorie for taking me around. Now I see why he has not been active on the cyber and those other extra stuff. He, Chris Ulasi and others have their hands full. I am told that they are even taking the concept to Los Angeles and Little Rock. Folks, that is what is called growing the ministry.

By the time we got to the 11:00 a.m. service at 12:00 noon, the parking lot was quite a sight. It was typical Igbo people at their best. You know, back home we are taught to go to Church in your best clothes and best everything. That is the case here. One of my daughters, on pulling up to a parking spot said, "Nigerians love SUVs." There were more SUVs than other luxury cars. My wife told her the reason, "Nigerians especially NdiIgbo have lots of children and cannot all fit in a car." "And besides, this is Texas where big things are appreciated" , I chipped in. The service was conducted in the hall since the sanctuary wasn't quite ready. It felt like St Andrews Anglican Church, Amichi. The choir and band were terrific and they kept the service alive. Rev, Ogbunugwu, a senior pastor elevated the ante with a powerful and provocative sermon that I will discuss later. He impressed me a lot especially his command of English and Igbo. He touched everybody's softest spots. He nearly embarrassed my family when he recognized and announced us as first time guests. This interrupted the service for good 20 minutes as members took turns welcoming us by shake of hands and hugs. Until then I did not know there were many old friends in the audience. It was like home coming, having attended school and lived in Houston for 8 years. My first two kids were born in Houston.

My people, if you are interested in building a community center, because that is what this place is, pay a visit to All Saints Anglican Church, Houston. With that monument, who wants another Igbo Center. Peoples Club International, Galveston Branch held its event there recently. The drive for a lot of people is about 45-60 minutes, but who cares.

We should be proud of what our brothers and sisters have done in Houston. While we may have our issues, this one is one to celebrate and debunk the notion that we can never work together. It does not take a whole village, only a handful of dedicated souls. NdiIgbo in Houston found them and the rest is history. Dallas/Ft Worth, Atlanta, Chicago are you in the house?

Should you want to contact the All Saints Church in Houston, the main number is 281 776 9984.

Have a good and productive week.

Loya Eziokwu

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Re: All Saints Church In Houston
Written by Patrick Nwadike
Tuesday, 04 August 2009
If it is building churches and the bigger the better, no other race will surpass 'Black/African' folks whether in Africa or USA.

Congratulations, to all the hands and heads that saw the coming of All Saints Anglican Church, Houston, a mostly Nigerian/Igbo church. A visit there on Sunday, is not really about doing the worship in a manger style, but showing off SUVs, the most colorful of attires, and making sure one is seen better than being viewed. The Nigerian-Houstonians have just joined their cousins - African-Americans in doing what Blacks are known to do: BUILD BIGGER CHURCHES, in mostly depressed and deprived neighborhood all in the name of God. Who says blood does lie?

Despite many years of separation from the continent, the way Blacks and Africans do things are alarmingly similar. They will build a bigger church but when it comes to doing something to help advance their community, they will have their hands out to others. No black church or her African counterpart has embarked on an aggressive research to find a cure for sickle cell; a disease that is known to afflict mostly black people. In the Nigerian community in US, a recent survey indicates that about 15% of kids born to Nigerian families in US, have the disease and yet, no church big or small, has taken up this issue to address.

The biggest church in the world outside the Basilica, is in Cote D'Ivore, west Africa. In DFW between Potters House - TD Jakes, Friendship West - Fredrick Haynes, Inspiring Body of Christ - Ricky Rush, and Oak Cliff Bible Church - Tony Evans, all churches in zip codes with unemployment higher than the local average, but an expenditure of more than $300m on church edifices: Zero tax base for the community.

In Nigerian communities what stand as a testament to community collaboration is always a religious facility. Even in my tiny village Ihe - Enugu State, the people rallied and built a cathedral. However, they are not able to agree on having a community bank, scholarship fund, renovate the schools, improve the village market or create jobs for local high school graduates who are defaulting into other activities that cause concern on the well being of the people. Because black people/Africans are suspicious of seeing anyone improve on economic and business endeavors, they rather give to a church.

There is something ingrained in black/Africans people about church and its place in advancing the course and cause of man. The Americans, Europeans and now Asians that Africans run to for 'money in a beggar style', have lowered their desire for religious/church leanings. Without the vast number of Africans and their south Americans counterparts, the Catholic/Anglican churches would be challenged. In a recent survey by EU, many Europeans concluded that it is no longer necessary to believe in God and as a result, many churches are being converted to other uses as memberships have significantly dropped.

Blacks/Africans will not collaborate to advance their colleges, hospital, real estate/businesses that help in creating jobs and adding value to their tax base. Bishop College now Paul Quinn College, Dallas, that many Nigerians/Africans attended, is at the verge of being shot down because of finances. The vast Nigerians/Africans/Blacks that obtained their degrees/diplomas from this institution, have not rallied to give generously to the college. Were the move/need is to build a church on the college ground, I am sure the response would be awesome. Nigerians have no bank or credit union to help them access credit for businesses and economic development. However, they will in a flash rally for a church building. The average black in America whether Africans or Americans will give generously to a church but will not invest in a program to advance their community. While church is a good example of coming together, it is not a good example of investment that helps advance a community in dire need. Of all the acclaimed presence of black churches in DFW, that in a given year deposit about $2 billion in area banks, there is no African-American owned bank in the area. No where in US have Africans come together to develop a credit union or have a community bank that cater to the financial needs of their respective communities.

Every ethnic group in US has one except Africans. So the Japanese comment that Africans are strong on their individual strides, is right but on collective basis, they are doormats for other races. Churches do not add to the collateral content of any community in terms of job creation or adding taxable base for revenue to the state or local community. Build them as bigger and best, they are just an edifice. As Blacks/Africans glorify God in magnificent places, how come the lives of Blacks/Africans are yet to be magnificent in the eye of the Lord? Blacks/Africans still suffer some of the most unimaginable afflictions at the hands of others. Does it mean their prayers are not heard or that they pray the wrong prays in the wrong place they think is right? Your guess is good!

God can be worshipped in small places and still hear the prayers. It is not so much where one worships God that matters, it is what one does after worshipping. I will not celebrate building of a church as a coming together of a people in need and search of economic presence. Anything done in the name of God is what it is. I will bet that with all the 'highs and cheers' that come from building All Saints Anglican Church, Houston, if a church member is in need of an organ donation, chances are no church member will step forward to assist or even be screened for a match. Blacks and Africans dance and sing to different music and songs, and it is no wonder their standing among other races is where it is.

Since some see religion as the OPIUM for the poor, they may have observed blacks and their African cousins for this saying. Go to Nigeria, the only industry growing in leaps and bounds are churches and they are mega in their physical presence but shady in their conducts. At All Saints Church, Onitsha, a priest in the 1990s was indicted for poisoning a church member on behalf of a rivalry using communion. It led to church goers for a while refusing to be given 'holy communion' by priest. It led to communion being put in the palm.

With all the shout of thy name, black folks and Africans appear to remain far from the intention of God because they are still ones that 'beg' for their existence. After the worship on Sundays, where do folks go for employment? Mainly establishments owned and controlled by others. Monday through Friday, black folks and Africans are subjected to untold employment, business and economic torture. On Saturday, they may barbeque and on Sunday get out in their best attire to ask, sing and dance in the church, seeking temporary reprieve from the torture they endured the week before and about to embark again. There you have it, in the name of the Lord.

ejike e okpa ii
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Islamists To Yar’Adua: We Want Total Islam-PM News
Written by Adi Femi/Kaduna, with Agency report
Tuesday, 28 July 2009 09:10
As the religious uprising that erupted in Bauchi two days ago spreads to some other states in the North, Islamists have told the President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua-led Federal Government that their mission is to enthrone the practice of total Islam in states with large population of Muslims in Nigeria.

The Islamists said they reject western education and democracy in all the states in the North.

P.M.News gathered in Kaduna this morning that Ustaz Yusuf and prominent Islamic fundamentalists have vowed to mobilize their members in Borno, Kano, Adamawa, Sokoto, Zamfara and other states in the North to join the fight in Kaduna and other states in the North against what the “Jihadists” called “a fight against enemies of Islam”.

According to the group, Western education and democracy in Islam dominated states are anti-Islam which they will no longer tolerate.
•Some members of the Islamic fundamentalist group shot dead during a crossfire with the police in Bauchi.

Believing that the police were constantly used as a state instrument to suppress their agitations particularly in Bauchi where hey have a large number of adherents, the religious extremists moved to attack the Dutsen Tanshi police station yesterday. But the police proved they were battle ready when they took the extremists unawares, killing over 60 members of the group, while several others escaped with injuries and many were arrested.

The Bauchi State government has imposed a dusk to dawn curfew throughout the state. But threat of more attacks has thrown most residents of Bauchi and other states in the North into panic.

In Kaduna State for example, for fear of possible strike, some workers did not report at their offices for work, yesterday and today, while those who were present gathered in groups with apprehension, discussing their personal security, in the event of an attack by the group.

The Kaduna State police command has beefed up security in order to forestall possible attack by members of Boko Haram group, a faction of Islamic fundamentalist sect that has threatened to join in the fight against perceived enemies of Islam in Muslin dominated states.

Deputy Police Commissioner of Police in Kaduna State, Isaac Eke, told P.M.News that his men were fully prepared and battle ready to maintain peace and order in all parts of the state.

Eke stressed that the alleged threat from the leader of an Islam group, Ustaz Mohammed Yusuf to attack Bauchi State and other Muslim dominated states will not be ignored.

He warned religious leaders who made statements capable of breaching public peace to watch their utterances.

The religious crisis erupted in Bauchi on Sunday when a group called “Boko Haram” meaning “Education is sin” in their thousands stormed a police station and attacked it. More than 30 members of the group which had campaigned for imposition of Sharia on the 36 states in Nigeria were killed during the attack. Many of them were wounded and arrested.

A member of the group that was arrested, Abdullahi claimed that the mission of the group was to cleanse Nigeria of all anti-Islam people and install Sharia in all states, stressing that they decided to attack the police station in retaliation for the killings of its leaders.

Declaring 9 p.m. till 6 a.m. curfew later in the day, Bauchi State Governor, Mallam Isa Yuguda, described the Islamists as militants and urged all Nigerians to view the attack as a national problem.

Soldiers have set up road blocks and imposed dusk-to-dawn curfews in the worst affected areas of Yobe, Kano and Borno States.

There have been reports of youths armed with machetes and guns killing police officers and civilians at random.

Nigeria’s military and police have been ordered to use all means necessary to contain the violence, the BBC’s Caroline Duffield in Lagos reports.

Eyewitnesses told the BBC that police stations had been attacked and civilians pulled from their cars and shot dead.•Wares of the Islamic fundamentalists scattered on the ground in Bauchi. PHOTOS: AFP.

In the town worst affected by the violence, Maiduguri in Borno State, bodies of residents and militants have been piled outside the police station and in the streets.

A BBC reporter there counted 100 corpses.

Some of the militants are believed to be supporters of a preacher based in Maiduguri, Mohammed Yusuf, who says Western education is against Islamic teaching.

Nigeria’s police are understood to be searching for him.

Late on Monday night there were still reports of shooting in Maiduguri.

Earlier, witnesses told the BBC that a battle had raged for hours in Potiskum, Yobe State, where a police station and neighbouring buildings were reportedly razed.

There was also attacks on police in Wudil, some 20km (12 miles) from Kano, the largest city in northern Nigeria.

Security is said to have been particularly beefed up in Plateau State, to the south of Bauchi, where hundreds were killed in clashes between Muslims and Christians last year.

Mr Yusuf’s followers are known as Boko Haram, which means “Education is prohibited”. Youths began attacking police stations on Sunday after some of the group’s leaders were arrested.

Correspondents say Boko Haram has aroused suspicion for its recruitment of young men, and its belief that Western education, culture and science are sinful.

Reuters news agency reports that one of the group’s leaders, arrested in Kano State, said his followers were standing up for their faith.

“Even if I’m arrested, there are more to do the job,” Abdulmuni Ibrahim Mohammed is quoted as saying.

Sharia law is in place across northern Nigeria, but there is no history of al-Qaeda-linked violence in the country.

The country’s 150 million people are split almost equally between Muslims and Christians and the two groups generally live peacefully side by side, despite occasional outbreaks of communal violence