IHEJIRIKAisBOKO:
look at fisacal sustainability in shitgboland

LMAO! Dude, you got me stitches with that pix. I don't give two bleeps about SE debt. We will use debt financing to develop the infrastructure of our region and we have no apologies for that. Others are doing it all over the world. Our states are already paying back their debt but at least we can see the bad ass infrastructures the debts are being used for. Ogun and Oyo will already have light rails in the next 5 years (which will be financed via debt and PPP) while Abia and Anambra will keep celebrating substandard flyovers and screaming marginalization Tell me why they won't flock to our region when we're the only forward thinking part of the country? Haters gonna keep hating. That's their M.O.

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Igbo are taking over all opportunities In your land while your people are lazing around.

read what Adeyemi Adeleye wrote

You should be ashamed for uttering this crap. Can you listen to yourself. You just admitted that our 'indebted' region has WAY MORE OPPORTUNITIES to offer your people than your non-indebted hell-hole. Like seriously?? Look here, there are more than enough opportunities to go around for both natives and migrants like your wandering clan here in Yorubaland. Na baba God favour us so. Your entire region is barely the size of Oyo state, yet you lots are struggling to develop that tiny space, and still have to rush all the way to our side to enjoy the necessities of life, like job opportunities, success, better living, skyscrapers , beaches, you name it. What a bunch of pathetic losers you people are. But I can understand your frustrations, honestly. I'll probably hate Yorubas too for being more blessed than Igbos if I were Igbo like you. Oh well...

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hardly see them condemning rot going on in their region or their governors that indebted their region with little to show, after claiming high IGR still asked for bailouts to be able to pay salaries and loans to construct roads, they are quick to attack any eastern states or governors from fiscal sustainable states Abia, Imo and are doing far better than Ondo, Oyo, Ekiti and Osun which ranked lowest among 36 states. They hardly discuss their problems rather die in silence, Ebonyi is more sustainable than Osun and Ekiti.

Are you avoiding me?? Yes, WE ARE INDEBTED, we don hear. When will you that are not indebted start living up to you false hype? We are indebted, yet we have the largest economy in the country, we attract more FDI than any other part of the country, we are indebted YET YOUR PEOPLE STILL PREFER TO FLEE TO OUR PART OF THE COUNTRY FOR ECONOMIC SUSTENANCE!! We are indebted, yet we don't sleep and wake up complaining about marginalization and underdevelopment like una wey no dey indebted.

If in spite of our indebtedness, we still remain number one (like America ), then quit crying more than the bereaved coz we're still the best side and na your bad-belle go kill you while we keep soaring.

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More from FS report 2017

Why then are your people still moving in droves to indebted Ragos?? By now your states ought to be swimming with economic migrants based on these stats that you are jacking off over. Abi all na wash?

You are just blowing hot air if you do not take this news to your fellow gala hawkers all over the SW. Go and show this stats to them, that way they will start moving back an masses to your SE eldorado. Lmao.

Ope o. So now, does this mean that Yiebos will finally start relocating back to alaigbo from Yorubaland? Coz if it doesn't I don't see how this amounts to any form of bragging rights for these pathetic flatthheads.

Any fiscal sustainability index report that fails to address how the SE can stem the tide of the brain drain in igboland and the wholesale embrace of cocaine trafficking by igbo youths is a scam. As we speak, many igbos both young and old are headed to the West side (the best side) as economic migrants. That right there is the reality on ground. Quit flattering yourselves.

Yinmu. Any fiscal sustainability index report that fails to address how the SE can stem the tide of the brain drain in igboland and the wholesale embrace of cocaine trafficking by igbo youths is a scam. As we speak, many igbos both young and old are headed to the West side (the best side) as economic migrants. That right there is the reality on ground. Quit flattering yourselves.

Alaniyiokorausa:
offspring of vipers keep deceiving your people because they are too lazy to read statistics now shows that south west is competing for less educated region with north. only Lagos state Dept is times 4 of what south east totally owned.

Yinmu . Upon una waec results, na gala una go still carry am come hawk for SW . Last last una go begin spread cocaine development. You can only deceive yourselves coz na una still dey cry over developmental marginalization pass.

intruxive:

There is so much in a name, ur middle monica fits u like skin.
Aregbe did not use loan money to rebuild "private" homes. He used them to build schools, roads, hospitals and other world class projects that will remain for a very long time after loan is cleared. What will ur governors leave behind?
And for the record brown roofs is a testimony that yorubas have been building with zink materials since ur ancestors were still living inside caves and mud houses with thatched roofs. Most of those buildings are pre colonial, they testify to how long we have come in civilization, but u guys have no history. Nothing to show u wr civilized b4 independence. Heyya it must be really sad been yigbo

Leave them. You know Aregbe is the reason why their people are fleeing their regions in droves to come and hawk gala in the SW . Aregbe is the reason why Abia roads are still an eyesore. Aregbe is the reason why they can't pull their resources as a region and build 2nd Niger bridge. In fact, Aregbe is the cause of the perennial erosion problem s afflicting their region. Obiano once lamented about the likelihood of erosion eating up at least half of Anambra. Perhaps Aregbe is to blame for that also.

intruxive:
Oya Ipob come and blame aregbe for owing o, at least aregbe can show to the last kobo what he used the money to build, but what will ur governors show biko

Leave them. These western countries are very smart people, sotay they cleverly gave themselves wide latitude in terms of credit access and privileges to raise the standard of their economies and societies. Fact is that Africans are left with only two options if they wanna develop -- they either partner with those that are willing to expend their private capital to build these critical infrastructures, or they obtain credit facilities to build them on their own. Either that or they will continue playing catch up compared to the rest of the world when it comes to development. And we are talking of tens of billions of dollars worth of infrastructure requirement per state if we are really serious.

There's more to governance and administration than merely paying workers' salaries. America is more indebted than any other nation. Where do you think they are spending most of all that borrowed money?? On Infrastructure.

The key thing is to spend the borrowed money responsibly, on projects that will have long-term economic benefits on the local economy. Money for development has to come from somewhere, and since a lot of states aren't collecting enough taxes to offset the low allocations, what options are they left with? Besides, some of these debts may end up being written off the books eventually anyway -- Didn't OBJ succeed in getting Naija creditors to wipe off her debt at a point in time? Na oyinbo people owe money pass, while we Africans dey do shakara dey turn down money that can solve a lot of our problems like say we holy pass. Yinmu.

NigerDeltan:


Only Lagos is owing 3x of that amount

With such high revenue they get monthly

Ogaa oo

You people better make your governors account for the amount they have already borrowed , so that they can borrow more to expand and diversify the economy of the region to attract investors and stem the brain drain afflicting the region. Your governments need money to address the huge infrastructural deficiencies of the region, and they can borrow responsibly to tackle this rather than waiting for FG to come and do everything for them, or screaming marginalization like a broken record. Abi una want make Erosion swallow up the entire region before you people begin to act??

Nonaira1:


Oh yes the Obulo pygmees are igbo.

You are such a genius to link both groups together.

How dare the EQ government different both group. Didn't they know the Yoruba of Nigeria have the ability to see that a group with different language, culture and ethnic background are the same.

You're such a genius. .
Please professor of tribal identity, tell us which other African group are igbo?

Oh btw the pgymees you trying to mock live in bioko island. They live here. I suggest don't try to mock what's thriving more than you and developing in a higher speed than you are. Get out of that you oshogbo village and travel. The world is too small for ignorance genius

Smh. I feel so ashamed for you right now coz I actually lifted that igbo pygmy picture from a thread started by one of your kinsmen on this forum about the sorry plight of the 'indigenous' poverty-striken igbo pygmys of Equitorial Guinea. You are already trying to deny them ehn? Why are you igbos like this??

https://www.nairaland.com/4116817/igbos-bioko-equatorial-guinea-forgotten

Your current state governor (i know you are a rettarrded igbo from Delta who feels inferior to SE igbos, you have cried about their refusal to accept you asaba igbos as equals severally on this forum, but that is a story for another day) is your kinsman from that oil rich state, yet the entire state has nothing to show for all it's oil and is more indebted than any SW Yoruba state -- to the tune of a whopping N773-billion naira!!!

https://www.businessdayonline.com/delta-state-faces-perpetual-deficits-as-debt-now-n773bn/

https://www.naij.com/1061067-delta-state-acquires-massive-n150bn-debt-within-17-months-of-okowas-tenure.html

We don't ever see nor hear you holding Okowa and other Delta governors accountable for the backwardness of the state in spite of it's enormous oil wealth, yet you are always on threads running your gutter mouth about an Osun state that has at least put it's relatively smaller debt to better use via evidently quality infrastructural projects. Again, I ask, why are you igbos like this??

Nonaira1:


The hilarious thing about you lots is taking jabs at SE in attempt to insult me. Ignorance is when you don't even know there other igbo groups outside of SE. Come on, take more jabs. Of course, Enugu is not the only "developed city" in eboeland, I'm just waiting on una to drag other SE communities to your wailing in your attempt to insult me After all oboul pygmes don become "eboe" in attempt to get at me

While I'm talking, where did I say Enugu is developed? Hell where have I ever mentioned that any part of that Nigeria is developed? I'm one of the loudest person to shout that Nigeria is one of least developed country in the entire African continent.

Learn how to read properly. I said and I quote that Yoruba are the least progressive/productive community in that country considering the circumstances. I repeat it again.... Your the ONLY region in the entire country that had ZERO hindrance in terms of development, yet all regions have caught up to una in few years despite they retrogressed and had to start all over again because of a hindrance. The sad thing is you people aren't even ashamed of it.

Oh yes I'll continue referencing Port Novo because it's one of the most Undeveloped "capital city" of an African nation I've been to.

Why do your Pygmy 'indigenous' igbo brethren in Equatorial Guinea look like sufferheads and even way more poverty stricken than their Nigerian counterparts? Is it because they have no SW to emigrate to in order to enable them upgrade their fvcked up lives the way Yoruba land has impacted you people's?? They look so pitiful.

Nonaira1:


LMFAO did I not say they will result to selective picture imagery to try to save face.

Hilarious enough, he actually ended up doing just that

You're so smart LMFAO.

I wonder why this selective imagery can't just be what's plastered in Osun when you actually visit it.

I wonder why this selective imagery can't just be what's in the background of every images the Osun government visiting the people.

Devil punish you there! Those are all projects executed by the same Osun state government under Aregbesola. Oh, so now it's 'selective imagery' abi? Coz it doesn't fit your sick narrative? Like we don't know that you people only show us selective parts of your glorified villages in an attempt to bamboozle us?? You are mad. Dem don swear for you. Show me any educational facility that comes close to these right here in Osun. Mind you, these are secondary schools o. Osun is light years ahead of your entire SE states in terms of infrastructure. Upon all the mouth you people have, we can't see anything on ground, except for 'selective imagery' of village mansions. I'm showing you proof, counter them with your own you retttard. In terms of residential building structures, I can embarrass you with ultra-modern architectures located within Ogun and Oyo that beats anything you lots have in that glorified village you call region. Nonsense!

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Nonaira1:


Can someone tell me why Yoruba are the only set of people with this special glasses to see all this "Osun, Ibadan, SW" infrastructure they love to tell us exist. How come those of us that have actually stepped foot in their region do not see all this long paper written words.
Didn't your Osun governor take a picture in your capital of that state during election, wasn't that image circulated on this forum as a mockery to una? I wonder why someone would mock your capital city with an image provided by your own government.
Underneath this comment, I just posted a video of one of your own artist celebrating your Ibadan's beauty, etc. Interesting enough, how come your words are more gorgeous paved than the actual video.

It's like when you lots start your gorgeous paving story telling, you think the people you speaking to haven't actually been to your areas and seen it with his or her own two eyes.

Oh and btw Lagos is where it is because of ND oils. Why I say that? Port Novo is a perfect example of what Lagos and several of your cities would have been without ND oil. Before you be start wailing and shouting on how developing you are, blah blah, my question begs how come that didn't transpire in Port Novo?

Anyway, I expect the usual selected picture imagery of hotels, parks, etc to save face in 1,2, 3 go

Forget Lagos and Porto Novo for now, even though every sincere person knows that Lagos owes its survival today to we Yorubas who refused to allow her to die as was hoped by all you bad-belle people, after it was abandoned by the FG as FCT.

Below are all Osun pictures of Osun state infrastructures. I hope you will be bold enough to show us igbo equivalents of these quality of projects in your entire Igbo region. Don't chicken out if you are not a bastarrd.

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Nonaira1:


So landmass explains why you being the ONLY region in the entire country that had ZERO hindrance in terms of development yet Every region in that nation, North included, have caught up to you in matters of few fucking years despite each had to restart the run while you didn't.

Clap for yourself. What a genius way to try and excuse your unproductive. You not even ashamed of yourselves.

Dude, being the ONLY region in that entire nation which had NOTHING blocking you, ZERO obstacle stopping you that forced you back like all other regions like SS, SE and North, you should be MILES ahead of everyone by a 10,000 in every ramification. You should be competing with the same African communities that had the same situation as you. Ironically enough, you are not. Each region that has hindrance caught up to you in FEW YEARS. Emphasis on that word, FEW YEARS. Says it all.

Yinmu. You are just a pained punk. In your heart it pains you to know that our region beats yours and every other in all indices of development, most especially in terms of infrastructure and economy. Even without oil money or onitsha and Aba style markets, Ibadan (accordong to euromonitor and at least one other reputed international firm), is still reckoned to be one of Africa's fastest growing cities with one of the highest purchasing power in the country, competing with the likes of Lagos, PH, and Abuja, while all your SE cities and states were missing in action. Ogun is also the defacto industrial hub of the country. I won't even talk about igr coz na dat one dey pepper una pass

And Let's not even mention Lagos which continues to sour above others thanks to the ingenuity of its Yoruba administrators since it ceased from being FCT almost three decades ago. Osun, even in spite of it's inadequacies, is putting in place some mad infrastructures that have no parallel in your entire region. This no be mouth coz proof brekete.

Plus, our region is still the preferred sanctuary of your economic migrant kinsmen, in spite of your stvpid noises and chest-beating. Na only noise una sabi make. Nothing wey una get for SE wey we no already done surpass in our region. Shey na modern or ultra modern housing estates? Heck, una still no get standard CBD or single skyscraper in the entire SE, more than 50-years after Ibadan commissioned the first one in the entire country (check it out below as it still towers above the city) while una still never get one single one that can match it in height in your entire region.

oodualover:

That fourth picture na die!!!
These Igbo people are truely chest beaters and noise makers.

As in eh? You can tell that sufferness and poverty has panelbeated their flatheeads into submission.

Nonaira1:


You know in attempt to save face, you ended up proving me accurate. How hilarious!!!

One thing skyscrapercity forum is known for is providing the best images of each cities in Africa in attempt to give the illusion that the cities are comparable to Western cities. Funny enough, the case of Port Novo is uncompleted building, unpaved roads, out dated buildings that appears to be built during colonization among other things. In between the images, you'll see few decent buildings with poor background and of course, one image of a nice bridge. Though they were attempting to show the "beautiful part" of port Novo, they only able to reach 2 pages ALONE.... Mind you, that's a capital city. Therefore indicating lack of the so called "beautiful, developed part" of the city That's say it all. Did you even bother to look at the link you provided?

Next time you want to use selected imagery to try and "expose" a city to someone who's actually been to the city and seen it with his eyes...I suggest use a better scenery/links. Don't prove me right in attempt to prove me wrong. You only end up making your self look dumb as Bleep.

Guy, upon say you people claimed to have 'rebuilt SE from scratch' owing to the devastation of the civil war, your region already looks worse and more dilapidated than our ancient brown roof settlements you people like to mock .

1. Enugu
2. Enugu
3. Aba
4. Igbo pygmy tribe found in Equatorial Guinea

Nonaira1:


Even anong one Nigeria Yoruba are not thriving. I'm still wondering why noone else is seeing this.

Yorubalsnd is the ONLY area in Nigeria that didn't have any hinder in terms of development yet they aren't developed or any where close to what you see to other African groups with the same predicament. Even at that, all the other regions in that one Nigeria that did have hinders and had to stop and restart all over again are behind them in terms of development. What does that tell you?

Let's say you and I are building our own houses at the same time. It's meant to be the same structure, the same everything. You stop for years while I didn't. The ones you has already built was bulldozed over. When you came back, noone offered to help you but yet I was already getting multiple helps. Then, after several years of you working by yourself with little to no help, you are back up with two bricks behind me. Would you say I am progressing in terms of that house building if you were able to catch despite all the obtascles you had that I didn't?

Ever traveled to Port Novo in Benin? If you have, you recall how some mock ibadan with that brown roof images. It's pretty much how that City looks like. Guess the tribe that own that City? Yoruba. It's even the capital city of Benin. I ask again, if yoruba are thriving people, how the city, another capital they owe, is one of the most underdeveloped city ever? What happened to their so called ability to build cities like they claim they did to Lagos "without oil money."
The saddest thing of it all is that the city is so bad, when you Google it, you rarely get images of it. What you see is a city in cape Verde and Spain with the same name.

You mean like this brown roofed Onitsha and Enugu

lastmessenger:
so are you for secession, restructuring, devolution of power or regionalism?

I am for secession. But if that's not obtainable I will go with regional autonomy. The military tried (and failed) to force the various ethnic components within this geographical expression to assume a pseudo-identity. This is partly responsible for the failure of the country to develop since regionalism was terminated. Give the ethnic components secession or regional autonomy and see if they won't develop at their own pace beyond what this country can ever attain under a false 'One Nigeria'. Common stable electricity we haven't been able to get right after all this while, in spite of the billions of dollars wasted. I put it to you that Yorubaland will achieve 24hr stable electricity within 3-years if granted the autonomy to chart its own course.

lastmessenger:
with this kind of statement coming from a youth,I already lost hope in the country. Like someone said, everyone is shouting one Nigeria but when the time come to implement things to make one Nigeria work,you all drag foot.
I give up already

Omo, fvck 'One Nigeria' o. Who One Nigeria epp I am not an advocate of that crap. I feel every region should be in charge of their own turf and handle their own shyt as they deem fit. Left to me, everybody should even bear their father's name. There'll be more respect, less strife, and folks would know and act within their boundaries that way.

Yinmu. That crap won't fly coz it will only favour almajiri/wandering tribes like herdsmen and yiebo people more than others. Why? Iboland is not condusive, too tribalistic, less-accomodating and less-economically developed for most other Nigerians to find it attractive enough to move to in order to live, earn a living and benefit from such a law. Therefore the benefits would be one-sided and meaningless to the majority of Nigerians. Most ibos don't even want to remain in iboland so where is the incentive for non-ibos to emigrate there? I repeat that such a law will not fly and is dead-on-arrival.

DrGoodman:


Please show us the data of people who have lost their skulls due to ritual killing by state

Yinmu. Your weak attempt to shift goal post is dead-on-arrival. I hope you can now see why your people have to flee your SE region to upgrade their standard of living in life? These are raw facts, not made-up stuff like y'all be spewing via your mindless propaganda. Any Igboman that wants to make it in life has to flee the SE region. #Fact. Common recharge card??!!!

DrGoodman:


People living in mud houses in Ondo which they share with rats buying recharge cards better than people living in mansions? Tell me another joke abeg

Anambla people are so broke, that they have to switch off their phones for being unable to buy common recharge card?! Common recharge card??!! Even Edo and Delta people sef get higher purchasing power. Here's the stats again. Go through it and weep for SE abysmally LOW purchasing power. Ogun and Oyo purchasing power alone (excluding other SW and Lagos states), according to that data, outperforms the entire SE numbers put together!!! Upon all una mouth, COMMON RECHARGE CARD??!!! Smh

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EternalTruths:




Is the number of mud houses, schools and hospitals reducing or increasing.?


CIS is the best measurement and not IGR.

Hahaha. The joke is on you, boy. Coz those people living in mud houses sef fit afford common recharge card wey poverty-stricken Anambla people can't.

EternalTruths:



DrGoodMan let us ask him this question

If IGR is better than CIS, why are many Ogun people poor

If Ogun (the Industrial hub of the country) has 'many' poor people as you put it, then Anambla most definitely more than double that. Heck, the entire SE region has an abysmally LOW purchasing power, sotay you all can barely even afford to buy common recharge cards to load your phones compared to other parts. The stats below prove it bro.

kn23h:
I’ll be back with more data that proved that Ogun State is the shiiiit

You forgot to add that ibo people are too broke to buy common recharge card to make calls and browse the internet, relative to other regions. Data don't lie. Their purchasing power is abysmally low, for them to be finding it tasking to buy ordinary recharge card.

bakynes:
They think Osun is poor because of the little allocation they receive but they don't know it's because of the loans Aregbe took to build infrastructures in the state that the FG is paying back. There are more infrastructure construction in Osun than any of the SE state.

Don't mind those loudmouths. It pains them to the marrow that Osun is ranking better than their glorified eldorado (Anambla) on several fronts, in spite of their empty and overrated noises. deomelo sef don show them some additional mythbusting evidence. Na jealousy go kill dem. Osun infrastructures beat anything they have in their states hands-down. Bad belle lo'n pa won lo.

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iblawi:


No wonder your people end up in alaba market after getting fake waec results. They can't measure up with Yoruba in universities.

FYI, igbo will always be slaves to Yoruba in every way.

You just said the koko. No matter the amount of education they acquire, they still end up either hawking gala in traffic, trading in substandard goods/okrika, or emigrating abroad to 'hustle' and 'develop' India, S.A, Indonesia, Malaysia, China, Cambodia, Vietnam, and the likes with hard-drugs. That is how it has always been and will remain for them.

totit:



Stop trolling already.
Why not link us to the said NB link directly?

You will wait tire if you are expecting that morafocka to present any reliable data-source of his claims. Na their way. By mouth, they own and developed 90% of Malaysia, India, Vietnam, Cambodia, China, and so on and so forth. Everybody knows their way by now, so nobody takes them seriously.

Keneking:
The quality of cheap yellow garri is poor here...so many imitation in South West oh...

Orange cost N50 for one piece of 85gram.

Lake rice is only available to Muslims with LASG ID.

Beans is N400 for derica

Beef is N60/ per piece uncooked.

One tin of 450grams milk is almost N1,500

Ordinary yam tuber is almost N1,200

Ambode needs to introduce subsidy on food items at least he needs to be good at something oh

This government has finished all incomes and savings. Useless govt.

I have noticed that you always lie and exaggerate when commenting about Lagos and Ambode. Is Ambode a Muslim? Why must you lie?? But you hardly ever comment about your home state Anambra. Better relocate back to Anambra if Lagos is not paying you. Anumanu.

naturalman:


There is nothing false about the list, except you are trying to play some kind of cheap tribal games...

Right.. Coz you are who again? It's your opinion which you are entitled to, but beyond that you're just flattering yourself and nothing more, guy.

Jetleeee:


Lol...someone better tell them Nairaland packaging no dey help attract FDI.

Shitholes will always be shitholes. No need to package am. Investors know where to go to

Anyway, they're entitled to their opinions. My problem is with the Otondo mods that keep moving their junk to the FP.

Word.