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babajero:
OK, I for say wetin make you dey reason like this.

Where are you from..

The Origin of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam, Ututu etc. - by Prof. J. Akuma-Kalu Njoku.

Around 16 century, the southern part of Igboland was originately inhabited by Oru people before some Igbos in the Northern part migrated to join Oru due to population pressure and depletion of quality of farmland.
*Note the Oru people who were the aborigines of The land stem from Igodomigodo.*

In addition to southward migration, another group of migrants, the Mben - Owan group, migrated from Igodomigodo/Edo State eastward across the Niger River and passed through Oru moving further eastward until they came to a place they called Be Ndi (Bende) Igbo, meaning Igbo territory. Some of the names of these immigrants who migrated from Igodomigodo and populated Bende were; Alayi, Igbere, Nkalu Itu, Abam, Ohofia, Ututu and Arochukwu.

These Igodomigodo immigrants aggressively displaced the original Anang and ibibio inhabitants of the area and claimed their forest and lands. The case of of Abam, Ohofia and Ututu was particularly poignant because of the brutal way they went about forest and land acquisitions. They faughtand virtually wiped out or displaced the aborigines. Thus, whereas the Igbo to Oru migration and settlement pattern were marked by pacts of mutual coexistence with the aborigines of Oru, the Mben - Owan trail to Bende was marked with incidences of displacement and subjugation.

J. Akuma-Kalu is an Associate professor of Folklore and Ethnomusicology in the Department of Folklore Studies and Anthopology at Western Kentucky University.

Source: Establishing Igbo Community Tradition in the United States: Lessons from Folkloristic.

*Nnadi Kanu is from Afara Ohofia and his ancestors are from Igodomigodo, present day Edo State. He should stop deceiving uneducated Igbos about Jewish ancestry.

babajero:
OK, but tell me what exactly did you smoke?

Weed

Osagyefo98:
Who are they?

Line them them up.

I read it in the news.

Channels TV

Osagyefo98:
I don't know who is Nnadi kanu.

Never heard of that.

Okay.

They said he is the leader of IPOB

kollinzgee:
No be only igodomigodo na igomun orile...

Ikwerre people will like this. You can have ikwerre but The day you cross your boundary and enter the East you will loose your head..

Where are you from in the East.

You might be one of our children, just like Nnadi Kanu

Osagyefo98:
ohofia

Lol


This igodomigodo na iti

Yes, Ohafia where Nnadi Kanu comes from.

He is descendant of Pa Idu

Omoregiek:
Is this going to be about obaseki,iyamu or oshomole

This thread is purely for the unification of Idu children worldwide

You are all welcome

If you have any question you ask

Or if your ethnic nationality falls within those mentioned above you can comment.

OmoOlofin:
Atigba: I am glad you’ve finally agreed with me that Ekaladerhan (son of Ogiso Owodo) lived and died in Ugoton.

You once argued with me that nothing of such is true either according to Egharevba or according to Ogiso lineage history.

You argued strongly that Ogiso Owodo died leaving no child behind and that Egharevba account made no such mention of any such Ekaladerhan.

I am glad to see your comment here a real life testimony of the fact that we are bound to learn more as we live.

Remember the exchanges between you and I [TAO11] at the thread found in the link below:

You have a sharp memory

You are right I made mention of that before base on the information at my disposal.

I have learn more of our history overtime, we have been able to identify the children of Ogiso Owodo. They left Ogiso palace because their mother Oakha was accused of committing adultary by another Ogiso Owodo wife Esagho.

Assokpodudu is the first son and crown prince of Ogiso Owodo, Ekerladahan is the second son born by Lady Esagho.
The third son is Ozorgbor and fourth son Oigi.

Assokpodudu the crown prince established Uzea in Esanland.

Ekerladahan founded Ughoton, Ughoton is the ancestral home of the Uhrobos in Igodomigodo.

Ozorgbor founded Uromi in Esanland.

Oigi founded Ekperi in Esako.

ATTENTION EVERYBODY.


This thread is for the Indigenous people of Idu lgodomigodo descendants.


Pa Idu is the founder of Igodomigodo and the empire had existed for centuries before Ile-Ife people came through Prince Orominyan to Igodomigodo and forcefully took occupation of the present location they are living in Edo State known as Benin Kingdom. 

Benin Kingdom is an extension of the Oduduwa dynasty. Geographically, It is located in three local government in Edo South. Our ancestors who was the constudian head of Igodomigodo then Erebo entered a treaty with Orominyan dynasty Oba Ewedo in 1255A.D.

Through the Treaty know as Ekiokpagha we leased a portion of our land to them and settled them at Ogbe, a former cementary ground in Ogisos days.


Over the centuries many of our indigenous people of Igodomigodo fled to establish what is today known as:


Igodomigodo North: Ora, Afema, Etsakos, Akoko-Edos, Ekperis, Igalas, Esan, Owan, Akoko-Edo, and Igede etc, etc.


Igodomigodo East: Igbanke Umunede, Ogwashikwu, Iselukwu, Aboh Kingdom, Ukwani Asaba, Onitsha, and  Idu Enugu Ezike, Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam, Oguta, Oru, etc.


Igodomigodo West: Ijaws, Urhobos, Isokos,  Itshekiris etc.


 Igodomigodo South: Engennis, Ogbas, Ekpeyes, Ikwerres/Iwhurohnas, Nembes, Izon, Ogbia, Epie, Atissa, Abua, Degema, Ndoki, Andoni, Kalabari, Ndonni, Apie, Kula, Zarama, Degema, Tombia, Abonema, Etche, Rivers, Ukwa East, Obolo, Ikot Abasi, etc.


Others Are: Some West African Countries and the Remaining Aborigine People of Igodomigodo scattered through the 7 Bini LGAs of Edo State”.


So you are welcomed on board, let's rob mind.


Feel free to contribute and ask questions. We are all of the same ancestral heritage.


GREAT INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF IDU IGODOMIGODO WORLDWIDE.

Wtf77:
Ogiamien family is a known family of bastards and backstabbing traitors who will one day face the hanger and Fury of the Edo people.
The disrespect and conniving which comes from that family comes with a price to pay, and you nevday the tax collectors will visit them.

Quite basically, the ogiamien are Yoruba attempt at Manchurian politics in Edo traditions.
Basically, you have this:

1) ogiamien claim the Yoruba claim (a bunch of fairytales) is right and proceed to claim the ogiamien are the ogiso (a fictional title from s fairytale)

2) the Yoruba claim the ogiamien are right and are the ogiso.

Each one pad's the other ones back and quotes the other one.
Problem is, people are not dumb enough to fall for this simple crooked trick.

I am not from Ogiemen family, though he is one of the aborigines in Igodomigodo opposing you fake propagandist trying to destroy our history and heritage.

I am a direct descendant of Ogiso Owodo

macof:
No. Oduduwa according to our traditions is a pure Yoruba man
Atigba can be excused for not knowing this before he is an ogiso descendant not connected to oduduwa

My own concern is that you should stop saying oduduwa is connected to the Ogiso

I have heard an interview with Ugbo king, who is a descendant of Obatala. I dont want to argue your history with you. You know Oduduwa origin more than any one.

The Benin people here were hired by Oba Ewuare to spread fake news and misinformation online. Ignore them, they are from Ille Ife. We the Ogisos greet Laiso

Oba of Benin family greets Lamogun.

This is the greetings we used to identify families in Benin. Oba of Benin dynasty is not Ogiso and can never be. He is Yoruba man

Wtf77:
Wow, vivid imagination, do you care to provide proof ?
Well, you have no proof because all you said is totally false.

It is weird you say I don't know ife history better than ife people yet you and others claim ife people know my history better than my people. Do your logics only apply one way ?

Also, oduduwa is a made up character in a fairytale.
Look, it seems you are mentally ill.
The yorubas are lying knowingly, but you, you are mentally ill. Look for s psychiatrist.

Yorubas are in a place to tell Oduduwa history not you Ille Ibinu.

You are from Ille Ife and there is nothing you can do to erase your history.

Ekerladahan live and died in Ughoton according to our historian Egharevba, and my family Ogiso.

Your Oba is from Ille Ife, a descendant of Orominyan the grandchild son of Oduduwa who is an Arabian.

Ogiso family great Laiso.

Your Oba greet Lamogun

You Oba is not from Ogiso family and can never be. He is tenant in our land Igodomigodo.

Etinosa1234:
Words of a drunkard...

Give me proof of idu language

I have, the people of Igodomigodo speak Idu language. That is the language I speak not Ille Ibinu.

Wtf77:
An old man trading fairytales ! Should I laugh now ?
Look, the Benin version of that fairytale says Oduduwa is the father of oranmiyan and oduduwa migrated to ife from Benin and that oduduwa's father was the previous king of Benin.
But all these are fairytales !


And it is weird how you guys only pick up out of context parts of this fairytale. You only pick up the part which suits your agenda.

Once again, all these are fairytales, the only interesting information which the old chief said are the greetings. Most of the rest he got them from internet like most people.

The Benin version is the one the Oba of Benin recalled during his coronation. But to you guys anybody whom tows your line is telling the truth and anybody else is lying. The old man is obviously referring to the fairytale mixed with things he got on the internet.
I don't blame him for not being as sharp as he used to be when he was young.
But it is telling that that is what you consider proof: an old senile chief.

Also, for your info, Benin kingdom has: dukes, palace chiefs, priests, chiefs, a crown prince who will succeed his father (the King of Kings) to become the king of kings, a prime minister...

Where you get your ranking about the Esogban us faulty at best. Just the dukes and the prime minister and the crown prince are enough to tell you there are plenty people who are higher than him in hierarchy.

Oduduwa didnt migrate from Igodomigodo, he is an Arabian.. you dont know Ife history more than them.

Ekerladahan, your propose Oduduwa lived and died in Ughoton, the ancestral home of Urbobos.

Ekerladahan is the second son of Owodo, born by Esagho. Oakha born the first and third son Asokpodudu Uzea, and Ozorgbo, Oigi.

You people are liar. You want tell me Ogiso descendant my history and at the same time trying to tell Yoruba people.. your ancestral home their history. Does a son give birth to father.

Egbareve already pen our history down.. no Ekerladahan turn Oduduwa there.

Etinosa1234:
1) Clearly u are a big clown...The Arabic language, Yoruba, Igbo , English, French has been in existence for thousands of years... .. Explain what led to the death of ur language in the same land u claim to own...
I can't Believe ogiamen offspring can be so foolish like dis...The way u fabricate lies amuses me ..tbh..Now I'm confused
2) Afar guy..if u cant bring proof of the existence of a language called idu language, Jus stfu...
Stop tell us the tales by moonlight stories ur parents told u...we are no kids here
3) Lastly prove it... Even my grandparents does not remember having any affiliation with Yoruba, so can u prove how we migrated from Ife...

Repeating lies won't save u tbh

U claim Benin speak idu language...but u posted this

Dude stop confusing urself...make ur choice...is idu a language or a spirit

The shrine is the where Ehimi Idu reside. They spirit of our ancestors Idu.. the progenitor of our race. Yes we speak Idu language

I have proven already with a video that you are a descendant of Orominyan who is a native of Ife.

You said you are a descendant of Eweka, if so ife is your home.

macof:
Very informative video. I've seen it before but it was good to rewatch and learn more about the traditions in Bini that these youths online don't know

They know who they are, it Oba Ewuare who is paying them to be lying online

Wtf77:
Jesus Christ, you are mentally ill, seek for medical help.

1) igodomigodo is a fairytale
2) we didn't migrate from ife

You have no proof for all you claim and you don't even know what history means !
There is no eyewitness written documents of what you claim and that is how history is written !

Watch that video by Esogban and shut up

macof:
You are far too impressed with being in france to be taken seriously. We are talking about History you are bragging about being in france. What has you being in france got to do with the topic? you are expecting respect and honor from people on this forum for being in france? mumu
europe still dey new for your eye

I just pasted a video from YouTube.. It is detail there how ille binu people migrated from ille ife by Esogban

Wtf77:
Dude, do you realize you haven't proven anything ?
On the other hand, I have proven Lagos to belong to Benin. I gave several solid proofs !
You come with no proof and ask me to "go and ask some nameless persons".
Should I start laughing now ?

I don't want to wast my time proven what you already know to you.

For the people that are here to learn.. watch this, the number 3 man in your kingdom talked about how you migrated from ille ife.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZQZl-yyNqE

Wtf77:
Look, it seems you are mentally ill.
We tell you we are not from ife !
And you keep claiming that we are from ife without proof !
What is wrong with you ?
You guys need to stop obsessing about us ! This is nauseating !

I am only telling the history of my land Igodomigodo and how people migrated there.

History has been written already, it is too late to amend it to suit your agenda.

You people will be resistance both in your ancestral home ife and your host nation Igodomigodo.

Etinosa1234:
Lmao...But ur first claim was that Benin speak idu language ..when asked to prove it ...U are now saying spirit...
Hope u can see ur lies have been caught
I have no links to any Yoruba kingdom and I'm clearly Benin. I'm from Evbobomwen in Orhionwmwon...and I can say that I'm Benin and not yoruba...
Why don't you come out and prove Ur Claims that Benin are related to Yoruba if u are sure of it

At the bolded.. once again.. that's not proof...

Lugard wife named our country Nigeria, does that make us British,
The Fulani are the originator of the word Yoruba, does that make the Yorubas Fulani

I can go on and on to tell u that is not good proof enough

By the way...are u from the ogiamen family because it's only them that have this kind of frustration

I said Benin speak Idu language mixed with Ife dialet. Orominyan migrated to our land Igodomigodo in 12 century AD, almost 850 years now. Our Idu language spoken by the aborigines has mixed with your ife dialet due to living with us for centuries. Remember Eweka the first couldn't speak Idu language at first, hence he said Owomika.. my hands have caught it in Yoruba

Those who migrated from Igodomigodo before ife immigrants came speak real Idu language. Uzea and Uromi are example.

Oh you are a descendant of Evbobomwen, you should be ashamed of yourself. What will you gain denying your ancestry home ife.

Etinosa1234:
1) Obviously u don't know how to read...U first claimed that Idu was a language but why does ur material say that it was an ancestral spirit
Obviously u are confused

2) U are even writing as u are told.. Clearly u cant back it up..... A place in a city was renamed does that make them different from the remaining parts of the village.. Obviously u don't know what u are saying...
All Obas referred to the place as Benin..Even the portuguese... I'm still wondering why they refused to call it Edo...
Search Edo people on Google.. they'll redirect u to Benin... Stop this revisionist scheme...it won't work.. Even the Oba knows his people are Benin...
He's called Oba of Benin... Nothing like Edo is different from Benin
3) Obviously u cant prove this ...
nor idu ..Na idi people... rubbish

I have proven all my points to you.. Pa Idu is our ancestor and proginator of our race. When some one die in our culture we cave a wood as a representative of the person spirit and pray in the name our ancestors, that is the meaning of that shrine. It is called Ehimi Idu... spirit of Idu/ancestors.

Know that also every history refered to the aborigines of that land Igodomigodo before now called Benin. Is a mark you Ife migrants are trying to erase which is not possible.

Of cause Oba refered to his people as ille Ibinu, vexation in Yoruba.

macof:
I already know that you Bini youths are born to be daft.
So it's no wonder that you don't know that traditional records are evidence

I just gave you traditions from your own Bini that all confirm that ọba of Bini has Yoruba origin.
So where do you fools get your ekaladaran from?

Lmao oba is now most likely to be esan not ekaladaran again
This is what happens when you ignore your own traditions because you know your ancestors were wise and honest

Please disregard the Bini people lie here.

They know their origin ife, they are purposely propagating misinformation to claim superiority.


I am a direct descendant of Ogiso Owodo, Ekerladahan is not Oduduwa. Orominyan founded Ille Ibinu inside Igodomigodo. A portion of land we lease to them.

Etinosa1234:
1) see Ozuo...mumu that wants to become authority on Benin history all means

2)Lol.. U guys lies never cease to amaze me...
So the idu language that does not have any prove of existence in Nigeria has a whole was the lingua franca of the south south... Guy...U are very drunk... Can u explain how Benin, Esan, Urhobo and the likes suddenly left the idu language amd decided to carve their own language that became distinct and different from each other(with eyewitness reports)
3)See Picture of the Benin people in the 17th century...

So in conclusion...I want u to bring eyewitness reports about
1)that Benin,Esan and others once spoke the same Language
2)How they formed their own language
3)How the Benin are related to Ife...

Pls be brave enough to bring the reports

Pa Idu is the progenitor of our race Igodomigodo

We speak Idu language, not the Idu you pasted there in Idian or Egypt.

Idu is our ancestors and we worship in his shrine. All Igodomigodo descendant speak Idu language which started evolving due to migration. There was no school to preserve language.

Edo is a name of a slave who saved prince Ogun, Oba Ewuare from danger. He was a slave of Ogieva as am told. Oba Ewuare honor the boy and buy his body after his death. In honor he named Ogbe vicinity which is today Oredo local government area after his name ''Edo.'' Edo is not a language of race. It was in 1991 during the creation of states from former Bendel State. Edo State was created. There are many ethnic nationalities living there.

I think you people are silly, you should stop trying to destroy our history Igodomigodo and respect your brothers Ife people because Yoruba is new modern word. Ife is where your ancestors Orominyan migrated from to our land.

Before your ancestors came, our people have been living in Igodomigodo for thousands of years and were know as Idu people.

Be warned.

Christistruth00:
Some of Ogedengbe's Ekiti Parapo Army settled in Edo Land after he invaded it.

Around 1878 Ogedengbes Army after overrunning and taking many Edo towns encircled Benin and besieged it and would have overun and taken the City but for the desperate attempts of the Oba of Benin and his Chiefs in pacifying Him.

Many Edo’s still bear the Ijesa Yoruba surname of Ogedengbe today.

The only history we have with Ekiti is that Oba Ewuare once conquered that town in 14 century.. you have no idea what you are talking about.

Dartilo:
I am not interested in debating, but I will tel it my root we are not related to Yoruba

You don't have to debate, I don't know what you people want to gain by trying to destroy Igodomigodo history and your native home history Ife.

There is nothing wrong admitting your history, the Queen of England has German ancestry, she is not fabricating stories here and there that the Englsih people gave birth to the Germans.

The Fulanis are immigrants from Mali, and they are not shy of it. Though they are not aborigine in Hausaland.

What is your end game and what will you gain by trying to destroy your father history Ife knowingly, by your Great Benin Descendant movement.

Lastly, what will you gain, by trying to disrespect and destroy Igodomigodo history. People who gave your ancestors land to build palace, you are trying erase them out of history..why?

Etinosa1234:
I'm a Benin person

Pls tell me the difference between Benin and Edo in the following categories
A) Language
B) Food
c) Dressing

We all know abt Egharevba...bring eyewitness reports that Benin are related to yoruba

Eye witnes..Lol.. you are a joke. You can't deny your root..ille ife. I wish you can but is too late. Your history has told and written down by our ancestors for us to read and learn from.

Benin speak Idu language mixed with Ife dialect. Esan speak original Idu language. Urhobo, Isoko, Ika, speak Idu language. The Afema speak part of Idu language but due to their geographical location and colonization from Nupe Fulanis, and interaction with the Igalas, their language evolved. They still speak little Idu language.

For food, every ethnic nationalities have their unique traditional food. But Egusi, Ogbonor, bitter leaf are general soup in southern part of Nigeria.

As for dressing, the Binis have no traditional dress code, outside the gown the European gave them. That looks like Reveren father gown.

The Esans on the other hand, have wool cloth dated back as far as 11 century.

For bead, it was the Portugueses who gave us all bead, we were exchanging slaves to get bead from them.

Etinosa1234:
if Ekaladerhan story is fake ..I want u to produce eyewitness reports that makes ur oranmiyan story true

Your ancestors in Benin Kingdom, Benin Traditional Council has already written your history down, you new generation can't change it. Is too late.

Egharevba was a chief in Oba palace, short history of Benin 1934.

I won't past documents here because it doesn't worth it.

Dartilo:
I bear Eweka as surname..
What does that tell you...

I am a direct descendant of oba eweka family...
We are Edo

Thanks for being sincere.

Then you are from Ille Ife not an aborigine of Igodomigodo.

You have no right to talk about Ogiso or Igodomigodo history. Your ancestors Orominyan came to our land in 12 century AD. You have to respect your father land Ife. Respect your yoruba brothers as well and stop fabricating fake stories about our history.

Wtf77:
1) oranmiyan is a fairytale ! He never existed.
2) ife is a small village, Benin is an empire ! The small insignificant village can't be the ancestral home of a great empire !
3) you have no evidence for your claims ! All you do is repeat yoruba Propaganda.

Orominyan founded Ille ibinu inside Igodomigodo and is 3 local government in Edo South, it is not fairytale.

Benin became Empire in late 14 century due to contact with the Portugueses because you were supplying them slaves. In return they helped you expand your kingdom, if you are ille Ibinu in Edo State you can't deny your origin which is Ife. Ife was not an Empire, I agree but that is where Orominyan who founded Ille Ibinu came from and families who came along with him to Igodomigodo in 12 century AD.

You don't know yourba history more than them. Again that your Ekerladahan story is fake. Our Ekerladahan lived and died in Ughoton according to Egharevba. Finally Ekerladahan is not the first son of Ogiso Owodo.