₦airaland Forum

Osagyefo98:
You are still far from knowing how things work.

As far as that word "Region" are there it won't work. Regional Government has been dismantled a long term ago and now replaced with states.

SW governors can go to their various states to legislate on how to adopt their security measures independent of each other. Each states law stands for them and on that note ondo Amotekun will be on her own same as Oyo, osun and the rest....


But saying it is regional Amotekun then it is purely Illegal and that where the AGF and FG stands to term it illegal.

So if they need it to be legal their senators and house of reps should call for total constitutional review which by so doing both security and everything will be put in order.

Aside that Amotekun is Illegal.


I wonder how Nigerians reasons at times.

I tire.

On the contrary your understanding of the issue is lean. Personal, ethnic or political views are different from legal position.

It's the court that decides the legal position on matters of this nature not individuals views.
You and mr malami can head to court on Amotekun.
Can you show us the constitutional review that the NW senators secured before hisbah police and civilan JTF were operationnalize in the NW and NE.
Is hisbah not operating though out the NW, is hisbah not a regional policing agency?

Osagyefo98:
Amotekun is already dying because the whole process has been suspended until clearance comes from Abuja.

Moreover the only clearance from Abuja is to wash it off.


If SW needs that they should rally others for thorough constitutional review.

See where the problems lies and you running around the bush instead tackling the problems head on.

Which court of law suspended Amotekun?
Can you enlighten me?

Osagyefo98:
Not possible.

It is also unconstitutional.


Their laws must only be for their state and that's all. The constitution doesn't guarantee regional law.

Each will legislate for his own state.

You are right, but in this case 6 states are involved which makes it regional.

The court will decide its constitutionality not your view or even that of the AGF.

Hisbah and civilan JTF are legally operating as neighborhood watch in the country, why wouldn't Amotekun?

Haywhysat:
i'm in support of it, and most of my friends here in Ife, osun state are in support as well, thanks

Me too am not yoruba but I support Amotekun.
The best people to protect their homeland are people from the neighborhood not strangers.

Osagyefo98:
Now I understand that Majority of nairalanders are just kids.

It will just lead to state police, just like that.

Yeah it will, when every state has its neighborhood watch, the next logical step will be for them to review the constitution to enable every state run its police.

For now Amotekun and other neighborhood watches will suffice.

Osagyefo98:
Hisbah has state legislation and each operates on her own independent of any other.

Amotekun can also function as such by making it state affairs which it's legislation will follow than regional affair that had no legislative or constitutional backing.

SW shouldn't think or trying to be smart by quarter. If they want Amotekun as regional security outfit then let them push for full constitutional review and insertion of everything that needs to be in a constitution both referendum. Till then will the constitutional review grant them regions Amotekun because they will now make such legal constitutionally.

If not so, they are just wasting their time and trying to play smart by whipping sentiments. If they really want restructuring and not all these their media restructuring this is the best way to go then.

Until then Amotekun is a terrorist organization.

You don't need a constitutional review to opertionalize Amotekun. There was no constitutional review needed to operationalize hisbah and civilan JTF.
The same neighborhood watch laws that enabled those other organizations will also enable Amotekun.

All Amotekun needs is enabling laws from the 6 SW states houses of assembly.

seunmsg:
Civilian JTF is a federal government creation. Hisbah is not legally empowered to carry arms. Amotekun on the other hand is designed to carry sophisticated arms. So, that is where the problem is and that’s why a political solution is required. OBJ allowed sharia for political expediency, Buhari can also do the same now.

False Amotekun is not designed to carry guns but to gather intelligence. It's a regional neighborhood watch.

Those who may carry guns are those who will obtain gun permit from the FG.
So far there are several private security agencies and private individuals that have legal gun permit
In Nigeria. I have a personal gun permit.
If I were to be a member of my local neighborhood watch, am permitted by law to bring my gun alongside.

seunmsg:
Legal backing is crucial but not enough. A compromise is needed between the federal and state governments. Amotekun will fail if there is no synergy between the outfit and existing federal security agencies. In fact, a face off will further compound the security situation in the country.

We are talking state initiatives in a fulani non cooperative FG.

All am saying is that the state can make and enforce it's own codes inline with existing laws.

Is there any other law that allows Hisbah and civilan JTF to function presently in the NW and NE? Except the neighborhood watch codes?

Blue3k:
Why don't you guys research before making claims you cant back up? The north west governors already said they wanted something similar. Your issue is with the federal government. The ultimate solution is to amend the constitution to allow any tier of government to have their own police force and prisons. It also be smart to amend exclusive list item 2 and 1990 fire arms act.

Amotekun is a regional neighborhood watch.
Our present laws permits that .
If not hisbah police in the North west states will not be constitutional. Hisbah exists because it is there to watch that the neighborhood religious sharia codes are enforced.

Amotekun will enforce security codes of the yoruba regional neighborhood.

seunmsg:
That is why Buhari needs to rise above ethnic and political considerations and seek a political solution to the matter.

Instead of Fulani elites making noise and issuing meaningless threats all over the place, they should encourage the federal government to sit down with the south west state governments and agree to an operational procedure that will see the new regional outfit work closely with existing federal agencies.

All the southwest need is enabling laws from each of the 6 state houses of assembly to operationnalize Amotekun.

seunmsg:
North east and north west are not against Amotekun. Fulanis are the only ones against it for obvious reasons. They are not comfortable with leaving the security of Fulanis in the south west to a security organization that is not controlled from Abuja by a northerner.

For how long,even if they succeed in the short term, Buhari will not be president for ever and the fulani will not control all the security agencies in the country for ever.

gidgiddy:
Exactly. For the core North, the South is a conquered territory that exists to support them. Dont forget that the wealth and economy of Nigeria is in the south. The only thing the North has is political power.

Any Regional movement such as Amotekun or Biafra is a threat to their power and they will do whatever they can to destroy that movement, especially now that one them is in power

Well too bad, we all know that you can never force friendship or any kind of relationship forever, it may last a while, but that bond will collapse one day if not today, very soon.

And that's a fact.

DaBullIT:
Yeebos and Hausas think Amotekun is Oodua Republic Security service


They are afraid Yoruba might want to secede from Nigeria

that's all the noise is about


Without isuing ultimatums or blowing up pipes , Just one move and the whole regions are running up and down

I love the move. I hope it leads to state police.
We need that to secure this country.

Osagyefo98:
Actually Amotekun is Illegal and a terrorist organization in future if not check mated and disbanded now.

Even South west Muslims e.g Muric are not support of it.

Who told others are in support of it.

Amotekun should be allowed a natural death and phased out like others.

If SW needs Amotekun they know the right thing to do not just crying foul up and down.

Amotekun is an Illegal security outfit.

Is hisbah police legal? Is JTF legal?

gidgiddy:
The NE & NW are the core North. For them, they control Nigeria and say what goes. Thats why they see any Regional movement that empowers the people, such as IPOB and Amotekun, as a threat to their control.

They will do everything they can to destroy that movement

Why are they afraid of regional movement, is it because they can't survive without other region?

Trump2020:
Lagos, Osun and Ogun are against it and these are area controlled by Tinubu

Not true all the six southwest state are in support.

I am curious as to why the opposition to the creation of the southwest security network otherwise known as Amotekun is only resisted by the people of the Northwest and North eastern region of the country?

The South east,
The North central
The South South and certainly,
The South West are in support of protecting the life of their citizens in light of the failure of the federal security agencies to do so, and hence their support for Amotekun.

Is it because these two regions have an agenda that the other 4 regions of the country are unaware?

Is the NE and NW in support of insecurity going on in the country?

Is it true as Obasanjo and danjuma warned that there is a collusion to subdued the 4 other region by supremacist from the NE and NW?

Is there an islamization agenda in Nigeria?

Is there a particular reason why all the security chiefs except one are from the North east and North West?

These are some of the questions plaguing my mind .
What do you guys think?

So u are this deep in ancestral stuff.. Lol.
The same way a cross riverians would lay claim to Akwa ibom State as his state of origin and not get killed or driven back? Why were the Ikot Offiong people of Itu slaughtered and forced to cross the river to the other side with the support
of the government?
Ancestral ties didn't stop you guys from killing innocent children. A whole church was burnt down with over 300 occupants during a night vigil.
So you can argue in support of ancestral ties when it's in your favour. For your information there is a deep river demarcating the two so called sisters states. The statism factor in this federal setting is itself a key factor considered in the scheme of things. It was this factor that caused the 76 oil wells to be handed over to your state although you guys still feel that your orange Governor has really managed resources well and the citizens don't deserve more.

Our kin in cross river are the okopusem! If you know what that means.
If not research it.
Not everyone in cross river state is kin to Akwa ibom. Those who are, know themselves.
An okopusem can decide move from his hometown in present cross river state into any village or city in Akwa ibom and fit in for the rest of his life with no problems what ever because he will be in the land of his ancestors and live among his or her kin. And likewise an okopusem from akwa ibom can also do same in any okopusem land in cross river state.

This is not prose or a wish it's been happening for centuries no one can change it. State creation is immaterial.

By the way most okopusem families are intertwined that way with cousins spread across states.
An okon effiom or Arit Edem etc can come from either okopusem land in cross river or akwa ibom. And that's a fact.

In case you missed celebrating Christmas in Akwa ibom 2019, it was great, you can watch some of the activities here!

Don't miss dec 2020 edition


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qllcz02ROsc

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Lucid1:
I once went on a similar trip when I was in grade school but I totally remember nothing about it. The memory is totally repressed

Good for you, that doesn't mean that all the kids that took the trip with you forgot about it.

NigeriaIsDoomed:
Certainly, Akwa Ibom is blessed but Nigeria is already doomed unless you are blind.
Bandit, Fulani herdsmen, Boko haram, politicized and bastardized judiciary, epileptic power supply , high level of corruption everywhere, poverty capital of the world, and on the scale of Human Development Index Nigeria is doomed.
You will curse the wicked rulers the day you leave the shores of the zoo until then enjoy your zoo.

Your solution is leaving the shores of the country? What a quitter !
You can run to the moon or Mars, but the job of building your community and country will remain either for you or your offsprings, we will build our state,
You can run from yours.

This is what inspiration is all about you bring kids from a village primary school in the interior parts of the state to an airport and expose them to an aircraft, let them touch and enter see the insides of an aircraft, interact with pilots both Male and female, crew members who look like them, ground operations team, ticketing agents, bag handlers, security personnel, air tower operator etc

Kids start dreaming of this kind of careers.
Akwa ibom state government well done. For inspiring hope. Suddenly this kind of career begins to look real and achievable to these kids.

Idung Nti Mkpo.
Akwa ibom emenam eboho. ETI UKARA.

For the person saying eket is dead show me any state or city outside Lagos that has attracted these kind of massive Chinese trade investment.

This Chinese Chinese yiwu international market in Nigeria is currently under construction in eket.
Phase 1 Will be completed 2 quarter 2020.

If eket was dead why will a Chinese company be investing $100million dollars in building this market?

For some of you ignorance is bliss.

Staro:
World Class roads but no cars.
It's high time Akwa Ibom took a break in infrastructural development and focus on empowerment / human capital development

Bad belle pipu spotted!
Please ask your governors to develop your state and build good things stop the jealousy and envy towards the beautiful infrastructures in akwa ibom state. IDUNG NTI MKPO.

NigeriaIsDoomed:
We fate of Tinapa awaits that market.
How could such a project be sited in a dead place like Eket.

Bad belle pipu. You are doomed Nigeria is not, certainly Akwa ibom is blessed.

Some people just can't contain their jealousy and envy whenever they see pictures of Akwa ibom.

That envy turns to hate speech most time.
But am here to keep showing you guys Akwa ibom.

Pretty soon the 1700km of roads and 35 bridges currently under construction in akwa ibom will be ready from 2020 get ready for mind blowing pictures from Akwa ibom. Idung Nti Nkpo!

NigeriaIsDoomed:
Eket is dead take it or leave it.

Eket is dead because you said so?
Lol if the Chinese investor can bring the largest chinese market in Africa to Eket, a $100million investment. That should tell any serious business person what eket is about. Not your uninformed opinion.

Do you know business more than the Chinese?

You should check yourself, your are dead, your vision, hope and outlook in life is dead that why you are projecting death .


Eket is alive and well for your information check

https://www.nairaland.com/4777724/ultra-modern-17000-seater-eket

https://www.nairaland.com/5005546/eket-urban-renewal-update-new

https://www.nairaland.com/5188252/updates-eket-urban-renewal-akwa

XANDERBOY85:
So where are the updated pics? Let’s see if economic activity in Uyo has increased, and if those roads and the surrounding environment has been maintained well to the level shown in the pics!

So did the road grow wings and flew away from Uyo?

tartar9:
Igbo Amaka
The only tribe that performs wonders wherever we go
We can turn even the land of HIV infested people into paradise

What a fool.

NigeriaIsDoomed:
I swear! Skills acquisition centres, massive scholarship, science parks, mechanized farming etc should be the priority of Akwa Ibom state government.
Forget all these things you are seeing Udom is a failure.
Imagine spending 45m dollars to build a market in a Eket that is dead.
Who will pay for the rent?
Who curse black man!

Eket the second largest and the oil city of Akwa ibom is dead?
You don't even know akwa ibom state. That statement tells it all.