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patches689:
You wont see the same catastrophic failure that the T-72 suffered in the video due to superior ammo storage designs in Western MBT's

Those ATGM in the videos are up against old school RHA 1st generation obsolete T-72 tanks that the US army defeated in Iraq 1990, they are T-72 tanks of 1970s era with ordinary steel armour.

2nd generation T-72 tanks with properly built ERA protection will not be torn apart from turret to hull, the reactive armour stops penetration of first hit by the missile, depending on the calibre of ATGM though. Aggressor needs second missile shot on same spot as the first to penetrate the T-72 ERA armour, or you must do precision/lucky hit targeting of the soft spots like matings between the hull and turret.

Judging T-72 tanks by assessing the 1970s obsolete RHA armour variants is a wrong analysis of the tank, modernized T-72 have ERA and some further upgraded models with laser warning will alert the tank crew to deploy smoke to blind enemy laser ATGM.

Not the best tank in town, but T-72 with ERA and extras is not an easy foe to defeat unless it's fighting a very technologically advanced enemy.

jln115:
Augustine please listen carefully, if you have money but don't pay your workers on time then you are essentially stealling their money, if you don't pay your workers because you don't have money then your insolvent, which one is the Nigerian government? Bankrupt or thief's?

That is NOT bankruptcy, that is like 'stealing', a matter of law not accounting. Fool

jln115:
Hey idi0t, Nigeria has other expenses to you know, thus a low oil price is fvcking crushing your economy.

The fact that you even mention that you worked for KPMG is a fvcking disgrace.

Hey idi0t, Nigeria has other sources of non-oil revenue you don't know...Tax of many types and solid minerals of many types.

Seems your caged brain thinks a country's revenue source is just one mineral or one resource. Where is tax revenue and others? Fool

The fact that you even mention that you are studying professional accounting is a fvcking disgrace, how did you pass exams on topics like national income, fiscal policy, government sector finance, taxation, etc? You bribed your lecturers like your government bribed FIFA to host world cup?
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jln115:
If you knew anything about accounting you would know you can't just refuse to not pay your expenses and debts, just because you feel like it. If you don't pay your debts and expenses you are essentially stealing.

Stealing has nothing to do with accounting or financial condition, stealing is a matter of LAW not ACCOUNTING BANKRUPTCY, rich people steal all over the world, not because they are broke, but because they want to cheat. Many rich men have cash savings , yet owe workers salary and delay payment till the time they like to pay, does that make them bankrupt?

Foolish fake accountant. Everyone in South Africa thinks like a dunce, even your so called professionals.

ddami:
eheh am also a potential accountant just writing my project....
pls don't answer dah boy he's currently confused...

Nice to know. Be focused, education is good. BTWN, I for text u baby girl but lezz go commot my front teeth with hammer

jln115:
Hahahahahahahahahaha you just made my day bro! Do you seriously think I would believe someone as re.traded as you MBA!!

And secondly you said the reports arent out yet, so how can you say Nigeria is not making a loss when it has over the past months?

Oil TC = $30 per barrel
Oil TR = $60 Per barrel

TC-TR=π

It's simple CA formula, a South African university will not teach you that since your schools are ranked by the fresh paint on their walls
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jln115:
Bankrupt=insolvent=can't pay expenses=can't pay debt=Nigeria.

Bankruptcy means you don't have money to pay your debts that are due.

"condition of being bankrupt : a condition of financial failure caused by not having the money that you need to pay your debts."

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bankruptcy

The first accountant I ever met in my life that cannot define bankruptcy is a South African

Keeping money in the bank and paying salaries late like Nigeria is doing for now, just because you refuse to use cash from your savings account is NOT bankruptcy.

A court order can force you to pay debts if you have cash, you are not bankrupt.

No court order forces a bankrupt entity to pay debt because he has no cash, rather he files for bankruptcy protection from creditors and the court will protect the bankrupt entity.

How do you like my accounting lectures? Free education is a benefit South Africa will always enjoy from Nigeria, we own you, we feed your malnourished brains daily
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patches689:
Just over 100 JF-17 ACTUALLY paid for

~130 F35's ACTUALLY paid for

F35 = not operational
Jf-17 = operational

These are the facts, live with it

PAF has SIPRI order for 150 JF-17 paid for.

Myanmer ordered 24 JF-17 and will produce them in domestic factories in Myanmar.....kind deal SAAF never got with Gripen.

F-35 is operational next month....3 days from now with US Marines

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/us-marines-stick-to-f-35b-dates-despite-new-problems-410518/

Thank me for the free education
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jln115:
I didn't say current re,tard , I said in the past months.

Okay, you admit Nigeria is not broke today? Confused man !

Accounts are current in a current year reporting period. January-December is the reporting period, accounts for January are current in a current reporting year of 2015.....or your own P & L a/c is not periodic, it's done per day in South African university text books ?

Beware dude, I have BSc/MBA.....I am an accountant and ex- KPMG staff. Better don't let me white-wash you as you are already a white boy
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jln115:
I wouldve loved to explain how an economy works to you, but I can't dum it down to your level.

you fake accountant that does not know how to define bankruptcy in practical terms

DictatorZAR:
Punk the F-35 is not even in service in America.

Nato countries are participating in the F-35 program and will take deliveries of the plane as soon as it becomes operational

http://https://www.f35.com/global

So where mr military researcher did you see or heard any F-35 are in service show us you fraud or will you shift the goal posts again my scamster

Read here
http://https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II

You've been exposed again.

F-35 is scheduled to enter service with US marines in July, this is end of June.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/us-marines-stick-to-f-35b-dates-despite-new-problems-410518/

Already used for training in USA, so if you attack them, they can turn F-35 on you.

Yes, in service I can say, the schedule is July, and July is 3 days from now.

See, the focus of this forum is your SAAF Gripens that are grounded without qualified pilots, leave America alone

RSA cannot find even just 3 Zulus qualified to fly a Gripen jet, they are born to throw spears around.....tiny brain bantu bushmen
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patches689:
no "rich" nation has bought the JF-17

You have no money for the JF-17

~140 F35's have been ordered and paid for - and the F35 is not even operational

Umbani was not intergrated on the Gripen because Denel did not think it was worth the cost of designing a bomb that can be operated from a supersonic jet

Come with fact, or dont come at all!

250 + 24 = 274 JF-17 ordered and 174 paid for by Pakistan and Myanmar

90% of F-35 orders are by the makers.....America, not export.

100% of F-35 flying in service are American.

No country in the world today has F-35 in service apart from America that built it.

JF-17 and F-35 are at about same level in export terms, both have orders, and evaluations, but zero export.

Facts are hard for you find because you hate them
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patches689:
Eighteen out of the thirty-six states of the federation are technically bankrupt. This is because they have mortgaged their federation account allocations to contractors by signing irrevocable payment orders with various banks. As a result, payment to contractors and other debt instruments are deducted at source and have become first line charge on their lean resources. - See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/06/18-states-bankrupt-cant-pay-workers-salaries/#sthash.nCRB8hqm.dpuf

Muhammadu Buhari, a former head of state and presidential aspirant of the All Progressives Congress (APC), says Nigeria’s state of insecurity and bankruptcy is down to years of indiscipline and corruption by successive federal governments.
Read more at: http://www.thecable.ng

Your own president admits that you are broke

Buhari was asked to explain bankruptcy with $30 billion cash reserve sitting on his table, he could not reply.

Politics is different from accounting profession. Bankruptcy by definition, is far from Nigeria. Buhari is not an accountant, he is a soldier.

States do not buy weapons for military. Federal government does it.

You posted an irrelevant argument

jln115:
You can get it on CIA world fact book, World Bank or international monetary fund websites.

2015 P & L periodic A/Cs have not been released by Ministry of Finance, so how did you find Nigeria's current accounts in CIA factbook or IMF....you excreted it out of your tiny annus ?

Fake accountant, post it here since you saw it on CIA fact book, copy paste it here....born M0R0N

patches689:
Henry120 has forgotten how many Nigerian jets have crashed

South African air force has crashed more jets, helicopters, and transports than Nigeria going by records.

ssaengine:
Superior Chinese Tech....straight out the box, into the ground.

Superior Swedish technology dead on ground with the nose and cockpit chopped off completely
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patches689:
1. Unconfirmed deal
2. There are no buyers
3. No "rich" nations have made any orders

Nobody buys jet fighters without proper details ironed out for content, spare parts, maintenance support, armament sources, mix of origin of avionics, training agreements.....especially when most buyers want full technology transfer and domestic manufacturing rights.

JF-17 is a special open architecture aircraft built for both western and eastern bloc engines, avionics, weapons options to be selected by each buyer according to his desires. It's one of the best jet fighter options on earth, best deal ever.

Who has bought F-35 Lightening jet ?

That will take a long time unless buyers are bribed like SAAB money bribed Mandela's nation of corruption sick leaders and soldiers.

1. Myanmar wants domestic manufacture and is confirmed buyer

2. Saudi Arabia wants domestic manufacture and joint venture partnership

3. Nigeria wants 100% technology transfer

Show me who has rushed to sign deal for purchase of F-35 Lightening, even after paying millions of dollars for JV, most potential buyers are not rushing to sign contract anyhow, not everybody is a fool like South Africa, you rushed to sign contract for Gripen yet the seller denies you the honour of integrating your own DENEL guided bomb after paying billions of dollars to Sweden. How will your SAAF or ANC be able to complain after rushing to sign contract that failed to protect your interest all because Sweden bribed your thieves that you call leaders?

F-35 and JF-17 are at about the same level of export sales, many potential customers, each discussing and taking his time.

PHOTO 1 : Oil rich Saudi Arabia evaluating

PHOTO 2 : Oil rich United Arab Emirate evaluating

PHOTO 3 : Oil rich Qatar evaluating

PHOTO 4 : Oil rich Nigeria evaluating

Biggest buyers of JF-17 will be oil rich countries who already have F-16, F-15, new Rafale and Eurofighter Typhoon jet fighters.

#Retaarded Argument Demolished In 5 minutes !
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jln115:
Oh? I should just trust you?

But the facts are:
The Gripen has a better HMI
Better HMD
better range
Lower stall speed
Lower wing loading, thus better manoeuvrability.
Better radar
Lower maintenance costs.
Shorter take off and landing distances
Better AoA.
Ect
Ect

Fact is that the Gripen crumbles into pieces at the slightest basic combat maneuver or simple landing
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litesea:
In other news

Major arms exporter Sweden to put human rights before weapon sales
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/06/26/uk-sweden-arms-idUKKBN0P61MB20150626

Sweden refused to allow SAAF integrate a locally made guided bomb on their own Gripen, they forced them to remain stuck with American PGM
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jln115:
I have posted multiple sources, go look it up.

You don't have any source for Nigeria's P & L account, it's with Ministry Of Finance, where did you post it from, your annus hole ?
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Nigeria buys several new satellites in 2015

New deal worth $250 million

A number of satellites, quantity not yet disclosed

New ultra-modern British radar satellites

Plan is to cover different longitudes across the globe at the same time

Nigeria to contribute satellite expertise to the British manufacturer

Military use included in specs

Nigeria to have highest number of satellites in Africa.....

ISTAR- SPY-SAT TECH.....Nigeria is always ahead of all Africa !

Nigeria may be having about 6 satellites total, to cover the whole earth 24/7.

These new SAR satellites are NOT Russian monkey models like Mandela's single lone ranger one satellite

Naija is always many years ahead, we shall be watching every SANDF equipment and calculating their positions/movements every hour !

http://odili.net/news/source/2015/jun/26/856.html
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litesea:
Trust me a j10 can run over gripen any time of the week and after the number of crashes i think jf17 is a better option plus EU can sanction Nigeria and transfer of technology will definitely not be offered in case of gripen

Gripen buyers got ZERO technology transfer for a $68 million jet.

JF-17 buyers are offered technology transfer for a $25 million jet.

The Gripen exposes buyers to sanctions, like NATO did to South African Mirage jets during war with Cuba, leading to defeat of SAAF in the air
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litesea:
JF17 is there to replace f7 while to counter rafale Pakistan is buying the fc31
https://www.ainonline.com/sites/default/files/uploads/webj-31-takeoff.jpg

Nigeria is listed as potential buyer of this stealth jet too.

I guess if NAF drops the Su-30 Flanker off the list of potentials, they might just go fully the PAF way.

JF-17 as 4th gen + J-20 stealth as 5th gen

24 units of the JF-17 and 6 units of the J-20 will give Nigeria the status of best air force in Africa
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jln115:
What about all your other expenses retardo?what about the fact that Nigeria has been making a Net Loss the past months thanks to the low oil prices, what about the fact that your own president says your bankrupt?

Post the accounts , the P & L a/c of Nigeria showing net loss.

Oil production costs about $30 per barrel, currently sells for $60 per barrel.....that is a loss ?

Fake accountant !

jln115:
What about all your other expenses retardo?what about the fact that Nigeria has been making a Net Loss the past months thanks to the low oil prices, what about the fact that your own president says your bankrupt?

The expenses are recurrent expenditure, a few months salary arrears of less than $ 100 million outstanding, so how does that make a man with $30 billion bankrupt?

Foolish barber, Fake accountant, you cannot even do elementary book keeping for a tiny spaza retail shop
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litesea:
Unnamed costumer is Myanmaar and they are buying the fc1 version(no western components inferior version)

They are getting domestic production license, technology transfer makes it worth it.

The countries that are laughing at JF-17 Thunder have NEVER manufactured one 4th generation air superiority jet fighter in their history, now Myanmar is ahead of them while they laugh
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jln115:
Hahahaah dude! What don't you understand about the most diverse and sophisticated economy?

What it means is, unlike Nigeria, when the economy is struggling there are structures in place to lower the negative impact a struggling economy might have, our growth rate is expected to reach 5% again in 2018.

The only person who should be worries is you, your country is bankrupt at the moment and if the oil prices don't raise ALOT you guys are fvcked! This is what happens to economies which rely on a limited number of income steems.

You claim to be an accountant in the making, and to you an entity with $7 billion debt and $30 billion cash reserves is bankrupt

You will end your career life as a salon barber
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patches689:
and this well chronicled shortage says we have 9 pilots?

Yes, SAAF has ONLY 9 Gripen pilots and NONE qualified for combat. That's why they were disqualified from joining current 2015 Lion Effort exercise, they don't want your mörön Southie pilots crashing into innocent people !
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patches689:
how does SAAF keep 14 Gripen in the air with 9 pilots?

SAAF actually keeps it's Gripens on ground, except there is a funeral ceremony airshow like that of Mandela , just flying to event venue and back to base.....ZERO combat maneuvers. Simple.
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patches689:
1.Pakistan has bought ALL Jf-17 - political

2. What bribery?

3. Citation needed

4. They bought the Gripen

5. They bought the Gripen

260 Gripen operational

50 or so operational JF-17

Why will no single nation buy this "$25milion Grippen"?

Unnamed Asian customer has purchased 24 JF-17 Thunder this month at Paris air show. The new vertical take off capability was irresistible.

Buyers are taking their time, nobody is bribing them to rush like SAAF/ANC was bribed to rush into Gripen purchase.

The richest countries in the world have lined up to buy JF-17 Thunder, nations richer than those who bought Gripen
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Henry120:
We don't have a pilot shortage, however, the that of the SAAF is well chronicled.

The Southies know there is NO record of NAF F-7 pilot shortage, so they cooked up some bed time kiddies fairy tale to massage off the daily humiliation we give them about SAAF having a widely published critical shortage of Gripen pilots, you know the Southies need to say anything even if it's rubbish, just to put ointment on their badly bruised national pride.
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