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Patchesagain:
This kid still thinks that the size of a modern army is more important than equipment

What happened when the massive egyptian army fought the tiny isrealy army? Infact - it happened twice

Yeah, thats right.

Third time and final battle was a stalemate, Israel failed to defeat Egypt and the Israelis agreed to peaceful settlement, and NEVER attempted to threaten Egypt again, the Egyptians finally broke Israel's military track record of victory.

Saudi Arabia won't last 7 days if they fight Israel.

Egypt is the most powerful Arab and African nation today, and Nigeria is beign called upon by Egypt to help them fight ISIS in Libya, they know who is the second STRONGEST MILITARY IN AFRICA......Nigeria !
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Patchesagain:
No - you had to beg Chad to come and clear them out for you

Show us where Nigeria begged Chad to help. Cameroon begged Chad.

MJNTF has existed for 8 years for joint border area combat, and Nigeria commands MNJTF, Chadian army is under the command of Nigerian army, same way Tanzanian army commanded South African army.

SANDF = Chadian level

Nigeria is now in the class of Egypt who are asking us to help them fight ISIS, why did Egypt not ask Chad or South Africa for military help?

They know both of you are same low level military forces not worth calling into big battles, Tanzania is better than both of you
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Patchesagain:
Augustus

You do realize that the war in Angola was more advanced than any war Nigeria has ever fought?

Second, that video you posted is not of a PGM

I wanted to post this video, not that one.

Here, NAF missile drone strike with PGM......SAAF has ZERO combat experience of air to ground missiles, NAF is Africa's first air force to use missile armed drones in real battlefield, and we are you new masters, we take over from the white-man Boer

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7424/15842545623_6a527bd4aa_o.gif

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7424/15842545623_6a527bd4aa_o.gif
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DieVluit:
A photo of two soldiers doing nothing but talking. Sure, dude.

Meanwhile, Chad...is...saving...Nigeria.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/nigeria-troops-chad-show-weapons-military-vehicles-parade-boko-haram-prisoners-1489822

Chad is doing 5% of the job and only around the borders, they are restricted by MNJTF rules and regulations.

Nigeria is doing 90% of the job.

Chadian army was out-smarted by Bokos who slipped under the noses of a whole 4 battalions of 2,000 Chadian soldiers and entered Cameroon to wound/massacre 600 innocent Cameroonian civilians that the President Biya begged Chadian army to guard and protect

Chadian air force is flown by white-men from Europe and they are busy b.ombing innocent civilians

Chadian army was asleep when 33 Bokos entered Chad 2 weeks ago and massacred Chadian civilians on the same border Chad was guarding

Chad is not even able to do it's little 5% job effectively.....Rag tag army of jokers, nothing special if they kill or capture any Bokos, even cowardly Cameroonian army does the same thing.

What has Chad done? Local farmer people in Nigeria with clubs, machetes, and hunting guns kill and capture Boko Haram...

NaijaPikinGidi:
Field Ops Comms. NA rolling!

See how their camo uniform blends with terrain, reason why Nigeria has different camo for urban, jungle, and desert warfare
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MikeCZAR:
Saudi Arabia is actually the most powerful Arab country.

And South Africa is actually the most powerful country in Africa.

It is actually embarrassing that you're now using artillery, armour etc against a group insurgents who at one point said "we who started with machetes........."

Israel uses the all powerful Merkarva main battle tanks, F-16 jets, artillery, etc against ordinary Hamas terrorists that have no single APC or IFV.

You think like a potato farmer on a military thread

Meanwhile, Egypt is the most powerful Arab nation today, Saudi Arabia has ZERO war experience

Egyptian army 1.5 million......Saudi Arabian army 150,000.....Egypt will eat up Saudi Arabia like indomie noodles with onion flavour
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Msauza:
Gripen pilots fire missiles from time to time when they test A-Darter missiles dummy.

NAF fires F-7 jet air to air missile in training with Pakistani air force, we have many PL-9 missile special training versions.

SAAF has no training missiles.

Missiles test for manufacturer is NOT = Real combat.

No target enemy jet that will evade missile and retaliate, SAAF has ZERO missile combat experience with Gripen jets

Msauza:
South Africa included. They used plenty of them in Angola.

I said modern day war, Angola is over 20 years ago war !

SAAF has never used BVR missile in air combat like Ethiopia and Eritrea.

SAAF has never used FLIR in helicopter combat. SAAF has never used air to ground missile in combat. SAAF has never used air to ground radar on ISTAR aircraft. SAAF has never used guided bombs in combat like Nigeria.

NAF is now your boss in air to ground combat....big time !

Show me a war where South African air force ever did something like this Nigerian air force level of high technology, show me....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m775Ve5x31o
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After 5,390 combat sorties by the indomitable Nigerian Air Force and 30,000 combat troops/armour/artillery rapid speed shock operation by the lightning offensive master Nigerian Army....

Egypt is calling on Nigeria to help them fight ISIS in Libya

The most powerful African and Arab nation on earth is asking Nigeria for military help

Egypt does not even know South Africa exists with their forgotten military !

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"Egyptian Ambassador to Nigeria, Mr. Ashrat Salama, has called on Nigeria and the Africa Union (AU) to collaborate against the terrorist group, Islamic State and ensure the establishment of a multi-national force against it.

This, he said, is necessary to ensure that the terrorist group does not spread on the continent.

Speaking against the backdrop of air strikes recently carried out on IS targets in Libya by the Egyptian Air Force, Salama told journalists in Abuja monday that contrary to the propaganda by IS, no civilian was killed in the offensive.

Egypt carried out the offensive on IS training schools and ammunition storage in Libya in retaliation for the beheading of 21 Egyptian Coptic Christians by the group.

Salama particularly noted that it was necessary for Nigeria to work with Egypt to combat the terrorist group because both nations are not far from each other."

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/central-african-leaders-rally-africa-against-boko-haram/202597/
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Birds of the same feather flock together....Arab giant, Black giant, each dominates the two African regions with an iron fist ![/size]


https://www.channel4.com/media/images/Channel4/c4-news/2013/July/03/03_egyptian_coup_screnshot_w.jpg
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Only two African air forces have modern day air to air missile combat experience :

1. Ethiopia
2. Eritrea

Only one African air force has modern day air to ground bomb, rocket, cannon, and guided missile combat experience :

1. Nigeria.....Giant Of Africa[/size]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m775Ve5x31o
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Patchesagain:
Augustus, Nigeria has never faced an enemy with a modern airforce, you have never deployed in a hostile airspace

SAAF has allmost 60 Aces since WW1

Combat experience is not as important as training, and we train far more than you.

SAAF has no aviation fuel to even fly pilots to meet standard qualifying hours. Soon your jets will be fueled with cooking oil.

Your Gripen jets have ZERO training missiles, Nigeria has training missiles on F-7 jets.

SAAF world war II pilots of 1940 is what you are using to claim champion in year 2015 ? D.ead p.ilots don't fly aircraft, SAAF has no living ace existing.

SAAF was defeated in Angolan war by Cuban teenagers flying MiG-23, SAAF was NEVER ably to fly air to air and challenge those boys, talk less of sh.ooting down any MiG-23 in combat.

SAAF has NEVER fired ANY single missile on Gripen jets, NEVER dropped any bomb on Hawk jets, SAAF combat pilots today 2015 have ZERO experience of missile combat air to air on their aircraft.

NAF flew 5,390 combat sorties of ground attack, ISTAR, and logistics in 1 year alone, SAAF has not flown ANY SINGLE combat sortie in 20 years.

The South African air force is TOTALLY D.EAD
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Patchesagain:
I named the torpedoes

the exporter is germany

The aquisition has been budgeted for and publically announced.

We have purchased many things since the A400M and more importantly the A400M was not cancelled for a lack of funds

Are you going to contribute to this thread or are you going to continue wasting our time?

When your own argument is being d.emolished, you classify it as waste of time by the person conquering you
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MikeCZAR:
Oh ya!

With a range of 300km+ and almost impossible to jam, serious weapon.

You don't have it.

Guided bombs get shot down by enemy air defences, your Raptor weapon will be good against Lesotho or Burundi
...anyway you don't even have it
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Patchesagain:
The Rand 8.3 billion program for 264 vehicles involves the largest single contract Denel has landed in its 16-year history, and South African companies will deliver more than 70% of the total value of the contract.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/denel-patria-building-south-africas-next-ifv-03317/

Your 70% is papar overhead costs value, NOT technical input. Paper value....70% made up of labourers in factory assembly line, tyres, seats/chairs, footmats, body spray paint and 30 mm cannon....that's what South Africa adds to the Badger
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Patchesagain:
No - literally 70% South African.

This is old content, consult the archives.

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The archives show that Finland owns and exports the whole engine chassis to you.

No engine no chassis from Finland = No Badger vehicle for SANDF.

Engine and chassis make up 70% of the existence and mobility of a any vehicle on earth !

SANDF will have to mount your DENEL 30mm cannon on a donkey if Finland decides to stop selling the engine and chassis to you
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charlos14:
more like 70% Finnish.

I just said the same thing above.

saengine:
The Badger uses the Patria suspension and chassis only. All other weapons and subsystems are South African. You cannot buy a Badger IFV in any other country exexpt for South Africa. Fact.

The fact that you are only finding this out now shows that you are new to this forum. Dont bother with your screenshot.....added useless information we already know.

SANDF Badger is 70% a product of Finland, no chassis no IFV
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mzilakazi:
You're stupidd you can't read. The source speaks about SASOL building GTL plant in Nigeria in collaboration with Chevron and NNPC. However, NNPC will only control 15% shares.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escravos_GTL

Wikipedia is an unreliable source anybody can edit anytime.

However, even your story is about construction of a gas processing and refining plant, is that the same as Sasol owning crude oil in Nigeria's land and oceans worth Trillions of dollars? Are you a maaadman ?

Then Sasol invested in a construction project NOT a crude oil business, Dangote too is building refinery and does not own the oil or gas he is to refine.

Your Wikipedia source also says Sasol South Africa is too poor to pay for it's approximately 35% shares in the gas plant building project so they vomited back their shares to Chevron and Sasol only got 10% peanuts....is that the same South African Sasol that you claim to own Nigeria's multi-trillion, not billion, MULTI-TRILLION dollar Nigerian oil business?

Sasol does not even have money to match Dangote that is building and owning oil and gas refinery alone by himself.

Keep wasting away your time, for the past 4 hours you are still super-glued to your laptop, sweating gasping panting looking through google searches to find non-existent sources to mislead your ANC hypnotized self that South Africa owns a big chunck of Nigerian oil industry....fool....Soweto born foooool
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mzilakazi:
http://m.news24.com/fin24/Companies/Industrial/Sasol-Nigeria-plant-edging-to-full-production-20141106

Thanks for proving me right, your own source above clearly says The plant is jointly owned by the Nigerian state energy company NNPC and Chevron.

Sasol has ZERO shares in Chevron crude oil corporation, South Africa has ZERO percentage of Nigeria's oil industry, you CANNOT afford it, you are too poor
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Henry120:
I agree with some points, but I doubt Egypt can win a war against Algeria. The Algerians have a bigger budget and a more modern military.

Overwhelming force of 1.5 million soldiers and 30,000 tanks, armoured vehicles, missiles, ICBMs, artillery of Egypt.......they will pound any African country into submission, the enemy will be completely surrounded by Egypt and cut off from supplies/reinforcements.
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mzilakazi:
That's a well known fact here in SA that the Americans and SA own your oil.

I just proved to you that Sasol owns ZERO shares in Chevron Nigeria....it hurts you, right? It hurts badly

mzilakazi:
War experience is not the only element within which equipments are assessed. Sophistication of the equipment also plays a pivotal role.

I proved BTR-4 is more sophisticated and more modern than Patria

http://tanknutdave.com/the-ukrainian-btr-4-apc-family/
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Henry120:
First things first.

Nigeria is in number 3.
South-Africa in number 7.

Egypt doesn't have a better military than Algeria. They might have a larger military, but Algeria has the sustainance. There is no proof the Egyptians can sustain their military over a prolonged war with another nation. Algeria also has a more modern military.

Tanzania has a decent military, but their inventory doesn't go far enough. They are much like Rwanda.

Algeria has the most modern military in Africa.

Egypt has the most powerful.

Nigeria has the most experienced.

Rankings....

1. Egypt
2. Algeria
3. Nigeria

Other will struggle for position 4 to 10 strongest military in Africa
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mzilakazi:
Mbedi is a business research source. Sasol is rappping Nigeria's oil like nobody's business. I have a friend that works at Sasol and goes to Nigeria every now and then.

Your Mbedi is a stupiiid copy and paste research source that claims Sasol owns 50% of Chevron Nigeria instead of Talisman Canada.

Sasol has ZERO shares in Chevron Nigeria....0%.....NOTHING !

You South African's swallow any source you like without using your brain to think because you are dullest in Africa, we Nigerian's challenge any source that talks rubbish....you Southies are dull brains from a nation that thinks it is the greatest in Africa, yet South Africa has 50 million fools who lack basic logic and common sense
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mzilakazi:
That's a green lie. Patria is ranked world no: 1 IFV.

Which war has Patria fought? BTR-4 is fighting war in Ukraine today.

The technical specs of BTR-4 beats the Patria or Badger

http://tanknutdave.com/the-ukrainian-btr-4-apc-family/

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mzilakazi:
That's a green lie. All that you said is a green lie. Sasol has 50% on Chevron-Texaco fool.



http://www.mbendi.com/company/chevrontexaco-nigeria-ltd-2190

You are quoting a private opinion source called mbendi.com

I am quoting official company website of Chevron Nigeria Limited, there is NO record of Sasol buying Chveron shares in the official history of the company 1879 to 2014.......your source is quoting imaginary information from dream land

Sasol 63 years of history from Sasol official website also show NO record of buying shares in Chevron Nigeria, only says Sasol got a technical/manpower contract job with Chevron. Your source messed up while copy-pasting from Sasol website, the 50% shareholding is in company called Talisman Energy in Canada.

"2011:

Sasol acquires a 50% interest in Talisman Energy Inc’s. Farrel Creek and Cypress A shale gas assets in Montney Basin, British Columbia, Canada.

Sasol partners with the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation and Chevron Nigeria at existing oil and gas facility in Escravos to provide technical and manpower support."

http://www.sasol.com/about-sasol/company-profile/historical-milestones


You are really craaaaaaaa.zy to think South Africa can afford to buy up Nigeria's oil industry as if it is a corn/maize plantation.

South Africa is too poor to buy Chervron Nigeria.......You Big Fool
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Enter The BTR-4....Nigerian Army Buys Africa's Best IFV...
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mzilakazi:
SASOL has a large chunk of shares in Nigeria's oil. FACT!!!! Without SASOL tech your oil is going nowhere.

SASOL owns Chevron petroleum and Nigeria Chevron 100% which is based in Bermuda and it also owns 50% of Chevron-Texaco with the possibility of consuming the whole company in the near future. So, what do you want to say now chief? You are owned.


http://www.mbendi.com/company/sasol-limited-194


Without DSTV your Nollywood is going nowhere. It has provided training to most of your cameramen to improve picture quality and sound. DSTV sponsors most of the Nollywood projects and has even gave them an international exposure, so without their support Nollywood is going nowhere.

Dude, you have no world class upstream oil industry in South Africa, so you know nothing

Chevron-Texaco is an American owned company that over 100 years old and still American !

Sasol owns a small Chevron branch in a tiny Island of Bermuda, how much oil is in Bermuda ? Nothing ! Nigeria too owns a Chevron branch in Bermuda.....that tiny Island has no crude oil, it is used by international oil companies as a banking location to avoid tax payment in western countries. If Sasol oil is in Bermuda, then you have no crude oil

http://vkdata./2013/04/05/how-shell-uses-bermuda-to-turn-tax-into-profit/

Chevron-Texaco Nigeria is NOT owned by Sasol, it is Nigerian-American owned....Fool

"Our company has a long, robust history, which began when a group of explorers and merchants established the Pacific Coast Oil Co. on Sept. 10, 1879. Since then, our company's name has changed more than once, but we've always retained our founders' spirit, grit, innovation and perseverance.

Over the years, we joined with other companies, each with their own history, strengths and character. We've grown from a San Francisco-based company with a five-state market in the Western United States to a major corporation whose subsidiaries conduct business worldwide. Throughout, we've retained our fundamental purpose: to provide the energy people need to fuel human progress."

http://www.chevron.com/about/history/

I need source to prove DSTV trains nollywood cameramen, the training deal nollywood signed was with the movie industry of Canada, NOT DSTV South Africa....Fool

http://www.africanimmigrant.ca/?p=913
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mzilakazi:
Sasol owns your oil and DSTV your nollywood. Nigeria does not have much of solid minerals which are viable.



http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSL6N0SW3NL20141106?irpc=932


http://www.sasol.co.za/about-sasol/africa-oil-week/nigeria

Nollywood sells mostly on DVD in shops and markets only few people watch nollywood on DSTV.

Nigeria's oil industry existed and was owned since 1957 before you were born.

NNPC Nigeria, Shell, Chevron-Texaco, Exxon-Mobil and Nigerian indigenous companies like CONOIL own 99.9% of Nigerian oil industry.

The 0.01% we gave Sasol is thrilling your oil hungry nation, God did not bless you with oil, 0.01% looks big to South Africa

Meanwhile, Nigeria's Dangote is taking over South African economy slowly but steadily....The richest African is a Nigeria
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DieVluit:
But apology for the $15 million saga, despite your demands. Instead, we kept the money.

We allowed you turn yourselves into a bank, just like a deposit bank.

Hold now, vomit later. Simple

DieVluit:
South African officials are quoted, so no; SA government told us that; AND nigerian government also didn't confirm the return.

So "lol"

http://newsrescue.com/despite-blackmail-false-reports-sa-never-returned-nigerias-seized-15m-arms-smuggling-money/#axzz3L4TMdVy1

Awaiting return, delay due to protocol. It's 3 months ago and yet Zuma has no courage to spend the $15 million
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mzilakazi:
Nope, SA still has the money.

We will use it to add to our next year national budget.

Your law forbids your government from touching the money, or Zuma is greater than your court of law?

Still no courage to spend the money since 3 months ago, even South African court could not confiscate it....fear grips your country
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jl115:
"Kondor is a series of small civilian radar Earth observation satellites developed by NPO Mashinostroyeniya rocket design bureau for the Russian Defense Ministry and foreign customers"

"Kondor, GRAU index 14F133, is a series of earth imaging or military reconnaissance satellites developed by NPO Mashinostroyeniya for the Russian Aerospace Defence Forces and export customers."

"It is the first radar imaging satellite to be operated by the Russian military. The first Kondor-E launch is planned in 2014 for South Africa."

Multiple sources prove that the Kondor-E is a military reconnaissance.

Nope, learn to read and understand simple English despite being a victim of bottom-low South African educational system.

Your sources say Kondor is the name in Russia, but when Exported it is named Kondor-E....Kondor-Export.

Finally, your own posted Russian source which I quote says it is civilian grade and very small :


Kondor is a series of small civilian radar Earth observation satellites developed by NPO Mashinostroyeniya rocket design bureau for the Russian Defense Ministry and foreign customers"

http://itar-tass.com/en/non-political/767884

Sorry dude, SANDF cannot afford cash to buy a military grade satellite, no money for spy satellite. Rainbow nation is broke, $40 billion foreign debt.

Thanks for telling the truth earlier bro, don't try mess it up with a lie. Don't commit sin after you have repented
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jl115:
You are one stupd mther fcker arent you, the Konder-E, as the sources prove is a military grade reconnaissance satellite.

"Kondor is a family of light-class earth imaging satellites developed by rocket design bureau NPO Mashinostroyeniya for the Russian Aerospace Defense Forces. Kondor-E is an export version of the satellite."

www.sputniknews.com/russia/20141219/1016017911.html

"Russia’s Strela rocket has made a rare appearance and launched the latest Kondor radar imaging satellite for the South African military"

"The Kondor spacecraft has been developed by NPO Mashinostroyenia (NPO Mash), and is designed to carry either an electro-optical or radar imaging payload. An export version, the Kondor-E, has been developed for other users."

"The satellite on Friday’s launch was purchased by South Africa, following the previous Kondor’s launch for the Russian military."

www.nasaspaceflight.com/2014/12/russian-strela-launch-kondor-e/

South African military bought an ordinary small sized CIVILIAN satellite, according to your own sources quoted by you from Russia.

jl115:
http://itar-tass.com/en/non-political/767884

You posted the source and it clearly says :

"Kondor is a series of small civilian radar Earth observation satellites developed by NPO Mashinostroyeniya rocket design bureau for the Russian Defense Ministry and foreign customers"

http://itar-tass.com/en/non-political/767884

You posted the source, not me !

You are the nincompoop who gets assasinated his own sources.

Sh.oot yourself or sh.oot your source....I am okay with any of the two options
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