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Nigerian OPV has superior AK-176 gun firepower, we will sink ALL Mandela's over-rated blue water ships in one day !

Everybody compare a modern Super Rapid photo below with the 1977 obsolete round edge shapes 76mm compact gun on South Africa's 'modern 2006' frigate

76mm super rapid gun below with straight edge shapes...South Africa does NOT have it o ! Proved !

http://www.otomelara.it/products-services/naval-systems/76-62-super-rapid
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Patchesagain:
Citations show we have the Super Rapid

Your opinion is, as usual, irrelevant

The photos of South African navy warships are relevant, it's not my opinion, it's your own navy's evidence

# Defeated By Own Navy Photos.

A source says SAAF has air to ground missiles, but do you have them? NO NO NO !

ALL Photos show you have navy guns 76mm compact with round shape.

You want to be a fraud...okay cool...live in a world of lies, it's the South African way.....

Below is photo of 76mm compact old 1977 gun on South African valour frigate

# Demolished On June 1st
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MikeCZAR:
Late seeker activation.

Target update!

Those are normal in anti-ship missiles, nothing special. Exocet was still defeated by decoy in Falkland war
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MikeCZAR:
76mm super rapid naval gun.

Patchesagain:
The 76/62mm Oto Melera cannon is used by the navy on its Valour Class frigate and Warrior Class offshore patrol vessels.

The South African Navy has placed orders with Oto Melara for the procurement of additional 76/62mm Super Rapid medium-calibre automatic gun mounting spares.

Deal with it

Sure i will deal with it and teach you about your own navy

76mm super rapid has straight line hedges. PHOTO 1

76mm compact has rounded edges. PHOTO 2

Valour frigate has the old 1977 gun...76mm compact with rounded hedges PHOTO 3

South Africa took obsolete guns purchased in 1977 guns from dump yard and renovated the ancient 76mm to put on new Valour frigates
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patches689:
Rooivalk Thales Avionics TopOwl helmet-mounted sight display (HMSD) provides the crew with a head-up display of information for nap-of-the-earth flight (NOE).

Nap Of Earth?

NOE flight by Rooivalk? Last time your SAAF pilot tried it he crashed the Rooivalk, your computers are old....and bad.

NAF is proving the Hind to be better, see a modern Nigerian Hind helicopter doing NOE flight, we have done it over and over again and succeeded.

No wonder NAF is the best performing air force in the world 2015. See our own NOE flight at tree top level, we did not crash like Rooivalk o !
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[size=20pt]Rooivalk Remains 30 Years Obsolete.

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There is NO PROOF that the Rooivalk computers or avionics were upgraded as proposed. No proof the money was release, no proof the job was done.

The only certain upgrade was to add ability to use Mokopa missile which was never ordered into service.

Next job was the over-heating cannon that was cooled from overheating, repaired, not upgraded. ZERO technology advancement. Same old gun

Rooivalk remains 30 years obsolete....even Rwanda won't buy it !


"Denel Aviation finally handed over five new Rooivalk Mark 1 combat helicopters to the South African Air Force on 1 April 2011, after years of development, building and testing.

The new Rooivalk Mk.1 is not much different to its old predecessor , the AH-2 Rooivalk.

The cannons which used to be a bother on the older Rooivalk by overheating very quickly and preventing rapid and sustained fire, have now been fixed.

The chief of the South African Air Force General Carlo Gagiano said, “ What is new is the Mokopa missile , which was test-fired at the Overberg range a long time ago and we had some very good results.”

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2011-04-04-rooivalk-the-next-generation-mark-1/#.VWZ7hvlVhBd

"The investment comes despite the helicopter's builder, Denel, questioning the viability of the 23-year-old project. The rotorcraft's cockpit reflects an avionics and computer processing power system that is now two decades old.

They are divided on whether the project is worth the effort. Some sources say it amounts to throwing good money after bad and paying for a Porsche to do a CitiGolf's job."

http://www.itweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5449&catid=96:defence-and-aerospace-technology


Rooivalk remains a 30 year obsolete attack helicopter.

CASE CLOSED
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https://www.armsdeal-vpo.co.za/cartoons/rooivalk.jpg
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patches689:
Heroin sub will have a life-span of up to 40 years.

It has completed 1/4 of its life cycle... and when it gets old it will be replaced.

So what?

South African navy Heroine class Type 209 Submarines are actually becoming obsolescent, it's a 1990s design. A new variant is already come after it and now in the market.

Egypt has purchases two more modern Type 209 submarines armed with both torpedoes and also anti-ship missiles for long range sea combat. South Africa does NOT have the best Submarine in Africa, it's Egypt and Algeria now leading African sea power
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Henry120:
You are completely r3tarded. Agaugust was referring to the 2nd OPV, F-92, not the first OPV delivered.

It has always been clear that a significant part of the 2nd OPV would be completed in Port-Harcourt.

That guy @jn115 needs brain surgery.

jln115:
Dude you are fvcking lost again! It was Agaugust who said your OPVs were/will be towed to LAGOS

Quote where I said Nigerian OPVs WERE or WILL be towed to Lagos.

I pity the school that admitted you to spoil their academic ranking.

saengine:
If you bring Nigerian standards to this argument you will be demolished each and every time.

Firstly...."50-70%" is NOT an agreement or contract. That is simply the Chinese playing you like f00ls. A firm agreement or contract will state that these specific parts will be built by these specific companies, no later than this specific time, and not costing more than this specific price. If costs are over-run or if production is late, penalties are paid. That is a firm agreement or contract. Do not dare come here with Nigerian standards..."we'll build-o 50-70% depending on what mood we're in".

Secondly....every single bolt and screw on that ship is paid for by the Nigerian Navy. In that hole you called a head, you think it's wise to have the Chinese build the superstructure, the bulkhead, the communication mask, fittings. Sail it to Nigeria, then have Nigeria disassemble what they dont like, add their own bits? Listen to yourself f00l. Your small brain is confusing modularity with construction.

If that ship had anyhing to do with Nigeria building 50-70% of it, its keel would have been laid in Nigeria. There is nothing more to that ship Nigeria can add to in the construction phase...simple. The Chinese lied to you...deal with it. Argument over.

Oh and why are airliners pressurized? Why do you keep running away from the question like a little b.itch?

Sorry, I could not find a single source or citation in your long story above. You pulled that out of your Gay-Screwed-Bum ?

Okay, here is my own source http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-18300358

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jln115:
Well dude here's your F92 still in China, looking basically 100% complete.

So what exactly will Nigeria be building?

Fool, show us the interior of the ship, or the hull and deck is 100% of a ship, like your head and skull is 100% complete with no brain inside.

Foolish boy . LOL.

This guy does not know when to smartly sneak out of a trap he set for himself by just avoiding the argument, and pretending he did not even know there was any argument, instead he prolongs it like a fool trapping himself more and more.

Are these the people that will rule South Africa in future? Then Burundi will then overtake SA in next generation.

patches689:
Off topic post

We are talking about indian hinds not ukranian ones

It was Ukrainian Hinds that attacked in partnership with Rooivalk. I am on point.

patches689:
Still bragging about scaring of a supply ship?

That is the hight of nigerias acheivement - threatening cargo ships

Nope, it is a well armed supply warship with heavy anti-aircraft cannon, 4× Oerlikon 20 mm cannon; 6 × 12,7 mm Browning machine guns, that's 10 guns armed to protect the SAS Drakensberg. Your navy was just too afraid of NAF Alpha jets.

South Africans were boasting about the SAS Drakensberg as "Jacob Zuma's big warship inside Nigeria's backyard"

Your 50 million SA people did not see it as a cargo ship, they saw it as your means of force projection by naval power.

Nigeria shocked your navy and fear made you do the Seleka style race by sea
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patches689:
Why?

It's the only way to prove your claims, so....

List the upgrade details and the dates they were made, so we can know how modern the Rooivalk is today 2015....
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patches689:
Its a guided bomb

A shilka wont shoot it down

Its cheaper than ASMs

Roland can be overwhelmed by saturation attack

Starstreak and CRAM can shoot down your ASM

A bomb is a bomb and will always be a bomb with slow speed.

Shilka is built to shoot down the class of Hawk jets that can fly faster than your bomb.

300 Roland Vs 50 Paveway bombs, NA will wipe out SAAF 3 times over.

SANDF has NO CRAM in service today 2015.

CASE CLOSED. You lose again, LOL.

patches689:
No - the need and a corrisponding project was created 23 years ago

But it was placed on hold when the Navy figured out that they could refit the strike-craft as OPVs

Those tiny boat strike crafts are just local home-based OPV, they cannot patrol deep ocean, you call them OPV? No, they are 415 ton boats and are mid shore patrol, not real OPV offshore class like Nigeria's 3,250 ton ships that are real OPVs.

Project Biro won't work for many years, it's a half dead horse. LOL.

Technically, South Africa has NO SINGLE OPV, that's why you use Frigates to do OPV duty in Mozambique. LOL. Fools
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Henry120:
When you want to tell lies, please tell your "stand alone" lies, don't try to drag anyone, especially me into it.


You claimed Nigerian Navy OPVs, weren't towed into South-Africa, yet you went ahead to post a Photo of NNS Centenary, where is that of NNS Unity passing through Simmons town?

When that @jn115 guy screws himself up, he tries to drag as many people as possible down with him into the mud pit. I noticed how @patches carefully avoided the guy in his crusade of "SAAF Gripen jets armed with air to ground missiles in Congo/Zambia".

LOL.....the guy na real mumu.

jln115:
"You know why I always say you are the duumbest white boy I ever met in recent times?"

Oh really? when did you meet me mate? BTW this is fvcking ironic coming from someone who thinks air is more dens at higher altitude.

Secondly does it matter if it was just one of your OPVs ? I was speaking generally as Henry always likes to say. You said your OPVs were being towed to Lagos, all i did was prove you wrong once again.


Pic: F91 NOT being towed

Hey mumu, F91 was signed by contract to be 100% built in China and sail around the world from Asia to Europe to Africa, so how do you tow a 100% completed ship? Are you a white man with the brain of a Zulu?

Who has ever said F91 was to be towed by tug boat to Lagos? You gone maaaad ?

The rest of your comment is garbage because of the dumbazz stuff you keep writing. Olodo.

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Best Army in town !

Nigerian army COIN forces trained in Russia.

Likely part of the new 5,000 troop COIN brigade Nigerian army.

Russia trains 5,000 Nigerian troops yet claims no glory for defeat of Boko Haram. If a PMC that has one South African colonel trains 120 men in your army, they will say they won the whole war for you, that all other 40,000 troops that you have did nothing. LOL.

Hungry for glory, Soweto glory thieves on the loose....beware of daylight robbery by desperadoes with ZERO national war history of success in their own SANDF.....they will claim a PMC with men from different countries is same as South African army. LOL. Thieves.
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patches689:
I keep looking and re-reading your post

I cant find a citation

Care to show me one?

Let me try post the content and hope I won't get banned again, the weblink got me a ban for no reason.

Ukraine deployed old obsolete Mi-24 Hinds in Congo DRC war :

"The armed forces of Ukraine are set to domestically upgrade their Mil Mi-24 Hind attack helicopters, now that country of origin Russia is no longer the biggest friend. Sources within the Defence Industry have provided some details of the upgrading program. Funds will come partly from donations of tens of millions of dollar made by Ukrainian companies and individuals after the country came to a stand-off with Russia when Moscow took control over the Crimea peninsula in March 2014.

The Ukrainian Army officially flies about 46 Mil Mi-24P/V/PM Hind attack helicopters, but the estimated number of aircraft that are actually airworthy is estimated at no more than 20. Three of them serve in Africa painted all white: two support the UN troops in the DR Congo since several months, a third deployed to Liberia on 26 March 2014 to aid the UN forces in that country. That leaves about 17 fully active Hinds at home. We at AIRheads↑Fly believe that now first some of the other 16 of the 46 Hinds will be upgraded to what is unofficially known as the Mi-24PU1 standard – with the U standing for Ukraine of course – to strengthen the front-line forces"
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patches689:
I keep looking and re-reading your post

I cant find a citation

Care to show me one?

He is correct, Ukraine used old Hinds in Congo. I posted the citation for him, I don't know why I got banned for it. Ukraine flies Mi-24V and Mi-24P Hinds, they are just planning upgrade for 2014-2015, still trying to raise the money for upgrade from donations.

patches689:
We are amazed at how tiny they are

Bwhahahaaha. LOL.

Not quite, the report was comparing South African military adventure around Africa with that of Nigeria.

Why did you not use Zimbabwe as your comparison standard? Why use Nigeria's achievement to measure South African performance?

Sure you navy is still weeping cups full of tears about the shame they had to endure when Nigeria commanded South African SAS Drakensberg warship to leave west Africa or be tormented, and your ship was afraid of ordinary Alpha jets.....sailed back to Simons town ASAP ! LOL.
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patches689:
So you are just going to ignore the Mk1 upgrade?

Lol ok

List the upgrade details and the dates they were made, so we can know how modern the Rooivalk is today 2015
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patches689:
T-84 is t-80

T-80 is a year 1970s tank. T-84 is called Oplot and is a year 2000s tank.

The guns are different.

The engines are different.

The armour is different.

The country of origin is different.

The manufacturing company is different.

The range and speed are different.

The fire control is different.

T-80 has no anti-missile countermeasures, T-84 has Varta anti-missile counter measures.

T-80 is a 2nd generation tank with ERA armour, T-84 is a 3rd generation tank with PASSIVE armour.

....and the list of differences is endless.

Only a South African whose brain fits at the 2nd bottom level of the world's brain power table, will say that will all the differences, the

T-80 = T-84 tank.

LOL.....I don't blame you all, ya brains really fried in Soweto oil. lol
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lionel4power:
A riddle guys...
What do you get when u re-arrange a french super puma helicopter's component in SA?

Oryx
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patches689:
Your missile can only be launched from a drone - easy target

Ours can be launched from Gripen or Hawk

Ours has a bigger warhead than your missile

Your only PGM is a mere bomb, and even a Shilka will s.hoot it down, not to even mention a Roland missile that wastes bombs like Baygon wastes mosquitoes. Your bombs are useless as they get easily b.lown out of the s.ky. LOL
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patches689:
Implying the project has been operational for all 23 years

Yes on paper, Broject Biro lives on paper gathering dust for 23 years. LOL

jln115:
I posted multiple photos of your opv's leaving Simonstown and sailing on their own on the other thread, they were definitively not being towed from Cape town to Nigeria.

You know why I always say you are the duumbest white boy I ever met in recent times? .....because you think like someone who entered university with impersonator/mercenary helping you tpo write your exams.

Nigerian OPVs leaving Simmons town, OPVs....plural, more than one, F-91 is just one ship and the contract terms is that she will be 100% built in China and sail around the world before arriving Nigeria, and that was what happened, so what garbage are you spewing here? Who told you Nigeria will build F91 and tug boat her to Lagos? You drafted and signed that agreement inside your house? Fooool . LOL.

Meanwhile F-92 is still in China at last sighting, except you personally sailed it to your bathroom tub at home. Mumuuuu. LOL
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patches689:
Rooivalk FLIR range is not easy to ascertain

Bwhahahaha

You are too ashamed to post it

.....Because you know the T-129 has superior targeting capability with it's ultra-modern FLIR

GAME OVER , T-129 BETTER THAN ROOIVALK

https://www.trdefence.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/turk_savunma_sanayii.jpg
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jln115:
I said the older Apache were not able to preform backflips, its irrelevant when they were introduced.

Show us proof of your above claim. Fraudster !
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jln115:
You are truly r#tarded arnt you!!

Show me just 1 helicopter in the fvcking world that can fly inverted for more than 10 seconds.... You know what don't bother because its scientifically im-fcvking-Possible.

secondly I provided 2 citations that prove my claims.

You provided citations loaded with false information used by South Africa to deceive the world

Even your SAAF chief of staff is caught telling lies.....Fraud is your national trademark
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patches689:
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Bwahahaha, you went back to insert it into your old post of 4:12, you edited the old post today. You could not show us yesterday when I challenged you. Your first post was 4:24, 6 minutes after @Africaken at 4:18.

Same way you fraudulently edited Wikipedia to remove Roland war history of shooting d.own bombs in Falklands war.

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