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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 6:22pm On Apr 05, 2015

Patchesagain:
2015 pictoral evidance says otherwise

Why would the SANDF display equipment it does not have?

To advertise it for DENEL as usual, like this marketing promo....
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 6:21pm On Apr 05, 2015

saengine:
Lmao!! He did exactly what i said he would do....he developed a whole new capability for PL-9 missile .

This is one of your most pathetic posts...which says a lot. Lets pretend you have 35km range missiles...

1. You just pulled the 10 second incoming missile time detection completely out of your a.ss. You just blatently made something up....infront of everyone. How embarrassing . What must the Gripen pilot do to detect a missile? Boil water, slaughter a goat while looking out the window with binoculors? System is completely automatic, high end electronic processors. Argument demolished.

2. Minimum distance you can fire at us is 20km. At "4000km/h" it takes 18 seconds to travel that distance. Again showing you are making sh*t up with "10 seconds". You're telling us in 2015 with it takes a 4th generation fighter more than 18 seconds to detect threats? Making sh*t up. Argument demolished.

You know I am always one step ahead of you in this game, yes 18 seconds to travel from F-7 to Gripen, but about half of that time to kill the Gripen.....first 9 seconds of PL-9C flight is not deadly, it's the time wasted to suck the target into the NO ESCAPE ZONE of air to air dogfight.

After the first 9 seconds, the PL-9C has closed in on the Gripen to trap the target inside the technical NO ESCAPE ZONE.....KILL ZONE !

9 seconds, that is why I said about 10 seconds. I know what I am saying, this is real combat not internet copy and paste from a website.

In that zone, even your flares and chaff will find it very difficult to save you because you are head to head with the PL-9C and your own jet speed is used against you as you are actually running straight into collision course with the PL-9C.

In that zone, if by miracle (Which will not happen anyway) you fire A-Darter to intercept the PL-9C, the two missiles will collide and explode about 5 seconds distance from the Gripen and the explosion plus fire ball splinters will hit the Gripen and blow it up or k.ill the pilot through the cockpit glass !

So, the other case is if the PL-9C pilot manuevers his missile to evade the coming A-Darter after the first 9 seconds, the IRIS-T will follow the lock-on and pursue the PL-9C from behind, then suddenly both missiles are now heading to hit the Gripen during the last 9 seconds in the NO ESCAPE KILL ZONE....your Gripen jet pilot will be hit by two missiles in quick succession and double explosion will tear the Gripen into blinking bits and pieces you will never see the pilot's dead body for ever.

SAAF will bury an empty coffin with the flag of the Repuiblic of South Africa covering it, no corpse inside.

That is war in reality, that is how jet fighters fight, you won't find that to copy and paste from internet.

A Nigerian pilot will always think one step ahead of a South African pilot. 9 or 10 seconds to death in the NO ESCAPE KILL ZONE.

GAME OVER !
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 4:38pm On Apr 05, 2015

Patchesagain:
Where does it say they were Angolan?

Numerous black South Africans (mainly zulu) in 121 Battalion and Namibians (mainly Ovambo) in 101 Battalion as well as Coloreds in South A
African Cape Corps (3 battalions of men) served in SADF ranks.

Stop telling lies you shamless satan !!

How dare you on this holy day come and spew filth before us!!

Away with you demon !

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South African Army in Angolan Bush War Battlefield :

"The battalion primarily consisted of black Angolan soldiers and non-commissioned officers (NCOs) led by whites of the “old” RSA Empire officers and NCOs, although there was also a number of officers from countries, especially in its early stages, such as: the United Kingdom, Rhodesia, Portugal, United States, and Italy."

http://www.volkstaat.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=510:32nd-battalion-rsa-south-africa&catid=108:rsa-southern-african-empire&Itemid=173

Now who is the demon here telling all the lies on Easter day ? You or me ?

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 4:26pm On Apr 05, 2015

Patchesagain:
[size=16pt]See how 2015 photographic proof of Mokopa in SAAF service makes Nij'as sweat bullets!![/size]

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 4:16pm On Apr 05, 2015

saengine:
WORLD BREAKING NEWS!!! AUGUSTINE FROM NAIRALAND HAS PUBLICLY STATED THAT GERMANY'S DIEGHL AND SOUTH AFRICA'S DENEL ARE LIARS.

Billions of Euro's spent, 4000 Iris-T missiles sold to customers. Those customers, with all their technical expers have all been taken for a ride. Augustine has revealed the truth....breaking news.

Billions of Rands spent on A-Darter. Fake self defence specifications. Revealed by Augustine here on Nairaland.

Fake Combra Helmet-Iris T specifications posted by SAAB. Revealed by Augustine of Nairaland.

https://i.imgur.com/r60ZG.jpg

3 Defence companies (SAAB, Dieghl, Denel) exposed by Augustine. 1 man. Amazing!! Once those customers of 4000 Iris-T missiles read this thread, I'm sure they'll be extremely pissed off....they've been tricked .

But bear in mind...this man just asked

PL-9C is faster than IRIS-T, so how does a slower missile catch up in race with a faster missile ?

Listen to his basic language...."catch up in a race". Maybe he has down syndrome. Where are they racing to? I wonder. Why must Iris-T or A-Darter try catch any INCOMING missile. I wonder again.

Maybe he doesnt know that an incoming missile is heading towards the target aircraft...not the opposite direction. So now need to catch anything.

A Darter (with more than twice the agility of PL-9) and Iris-T intercept the incoming missile on a head to head flight path with their vastly superior seeker heads. 3rd generation PL-9 doomed.

But we all know Augustine....he's about to invent some new capabilities for PL-9 to miraculously make it "win". He'll probably say something like this....

"PL-9 will detect the incoming defensive missile while still tracking the target aircraft (imagionary PL-9 function). It will then wait for the right time and dodge the defensive missile like a rugby player (another imaginary PL-9function), go around while still tracking the target aircraft. Somehow after travelling a minimum of 20km, and dodging the defensive missile PL-9 will still have enough kinetic energy at full maximum power to continue tracking the target aircraft, track it down, and blow it out the sky"

Augustine Engineering 101. All from the comfort of his couch.

[size=16pt]Long story. No proof grin

Show me where Germany or South Africa tested IRIS-T or A-Darta against a tiny snake sized target of an incoming air to air missile.

Clue : A-Darter was only tested against a big target drone the size of an aircraft and that slow drone has only maximum of 1,000 km/h speed.....PL-9C speed is 4,000 km/h !!!!

I am not an internet copy paste military analyst, I am trained on my job to challenge any claim from Germany to Japan, I fear no white-man.....I am not a Soweto based zombie remote controlled stooge like you grin

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 4:11pm On Apr 05, 2015

Patchesagain:
What is self defence?

Military technical language beyond your level.

Every modern SRAAM is for self defence of the jet fighter. Short range, close combat. I am not a copy paste military person, I work in defence industry. We have different level of technical soundness. You dwell only on internet. BVRAAM is offensive. SRAAM is defensive
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 4:08pm On Apr 05, 2015

Patchesagain:
PAK-FA was cancelled numbnutz
http://defence.pk/threads/russias-pak-fa-next-generation-fighter-project-cancelled.281181/

India's military is obsolete, inefficient and mismatched.

They wouldn't survive a week against the UK or France

My source is 2014 SIPRI.

Your stupiid source is 2013 private blog....shall we take Beegeagle above SIPRI from today ? grin

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 4:05pm On Apr 05, 2015

andrewza:
I don't think you know what a merc is.

No they where Angolans in UNITA. Not Part of the SADF.

UITA kept on needing to be rescued.

UNITA is not SADF. But yes there where many blacks and coloured solders in the SA or SWA army and police. 32 battlion was the only unit to employ Angolans and it was 1 battalion. All so all members where SADF and got SA citizenship.

You don't know what a mercenary means.

The source says clearly those foreigners were 60% of the SADF army, not UNITA.

You also don't know what UNITA means or what SADF means.

"3. Contrary to popular believe, most SADF soldiers fighting the Bushwar, were non-white volunteers, with as much as 60% by the closing years of the war."

https://sites.google.com/site/sabushwarsite/interesting
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 4:03pm On Apr 05, 2015

andrewza:
The ratel does not use a Ford engine. I was just pointing out we build engines.

....which you actually do not build, you only import engine in pieces and assemble them with glue grin

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 4:01pm On Apr 05, 2015*

Patchesagain:
I see that the official manufacturers specs have caused augubug to suffer a massive autistic breakdown

The missiles are flying towards each other - no "catching" is needed.

If at all the Gripen ever gets that chance. The 4,000 km/h speed of the PL-9C is too fast, it needs about 10 seconds to hit target.

The Gripen pilots needs :

1. Time to detect PL-9C launch by scan

2. Time to track PL-9C

3. Time to lock on a tiny PL-9C missile the size of a snake with very small RCS,

4. Time to command launch his IRIS-T or A-Darter missile

5. Time to release the A-Darter off pylon before booster rocket ignition motions his missile

6. Time to fly the A-Darter before it achieves safe distance to arm for combat, or else at close range the explosion from two clashing missiles will blast his Gripen with shrapnel and splinters or fire/flame particles.....he will end up as a suicide victim

He needs too much time more than the 10 seconds, the PL-9C has already killed Gripen.

Reason why the kill probability of the PL-9C is 90% kill, when it's fired on a target, that target is 90% dead.

The PL-9C will swing to a different angle, in a loop, it out-maneuvers a false target, by the time the PL-9C is back in direction of the Gripen, the A-Darter is following it from behind, by the time the PL-9C gets to the Gripen, the two missiles will hit same Gripen target.

The SAAF Gripen pilot actually sh.ot himself down grin

No where in war history has any air to air missile intercepted another air to air missile, if it is possible, somebody would have done it, and pilots in dog fight will never get sh.ot down
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:10pm On Apr 05, 2015

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:09pm On Apr 05, 2015

andrewza:
http://www.southafrica.info/business/investing/fordduratorq-020811.htm#.VSEha-BBvqB

Your very own source says South Africa does ordinary ASSEMBLY not ,manufacture of Ford engines.

The assembly plant opened in 2011, Ratel IFV was built in 1980s, surely not with engines assembled in 2011 grin

SA imports Ford engines in pieces from USA and assemble the engine parts. Stop freaking yourself out dude !
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:06pm On Apr 05, 2015

andrewza:
Site has not been updated....

....because there is no new information to update
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:05pm On Apr 05, 2015

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andrewza:
There where not mercs. They where members of SADF.

Yes they were white mercenaries from Zimbabwe, Portugal, and USA.

Also, 60% of South African army in battle during Angolan Bush war, were actually black men, mostly Angolan citizens.

South Africa was hiring foreign white and black men as mercenaries for the bush war, stop claiming glory by stealing as usual, the 60% glory of SADF belongs to mercenaries most of whom were black Angolans. SADF was giving out it's army uniform freely to foreign mercenaries that saved South Africa from the young hand of an inexperienced Cuban army of teenagers and girls, beautiful young girls grin

"3. Contrary to popular believe, most SADF soldiers fighting the Bushwar, were non-white volunteers, with as much as 60% by the closing years of the war."

https://sites.google.com/site/sabushwarsite/interesting

See Cuban soldier girls mocking South African army of mercenaries grin

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 2:50pm On Apr 05, 2015

andrewza:
Wow you foolish.

Firstly the army does not see much use for it and saaf was talking about getting it for the lynx.

No 10km is limited in land use. The rooivalk can fly.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 2:45pm On Apr 05, 2015

lezz:
Are you just waking up? It's everywhere; CIA backed SANDF troops got a serious beating in Angola in 1988. The Americans where dropping air supplies and men from their base in Zaire.

you don't want to take us 7 pages back now, do you?

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andrewza:
Proof for anything you said?

SADF used foreign mercenaries hired to help South African army in bush war against Angola.

Southies want to take all the glory ? No way ! Foreign mercenaries COMMANDED South African troops in Angolan war !

"There was always a sprinkling of whites originating from countries like Great Britain, the old Rhodesia, Portugal and the USA amongst its leadership cadre, although in the latter stages of its existence this shrank to only a few. "

http://flecha.co.uk/

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 12:45am On Mar 02, 2015

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 12:43am On Mar 02, 2015

Patchesagain:
You cannot afford what we sell.

All you can afford from us is 17 year old second hand trucks

TDLR; we sell T-72's and Hinds (pic related)

South Africa does not sell T-72 and Mi-35, you upgrade for those who have.

Manufacturer legal control does not allow 3rd party weapons transfer without permit.

SIPRI arms transfer log and UN arms sales register record ZERO sales or transfer of any Russian weapon by South Africa.

Your claim is fraudulent as usual grin

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 12:36am On Mar 02, 2015

Patchesagain:
Show us 12 F-7s in the sky

NAF does not do Hollywood photo mania like SAAF that has inferiority complex due to lack of combat experience, you want to boost your ego with photos while Nigeria boosts ego with combat experience.

The was NEVER any report ANYWHERE that NAF has shortage of pilots for F-7 jets....or else show us one such source/report !

Rather is is SAAF that has been reported by many sources all over the world as having shortage of pilots, 9 Gripen pilots previously qualified, the rest are dummies that cannot do combat, while recent reports now say the 9 previously qualified Gripen jet pilots NO LONGER get qualifying flight hours, means NO SINGLE QUALIFIED GRIPEN JET PILOT in South African air force today 2015 !

SAAF is d.ead tongue

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 4:27pm On Mar 01, 2015

DieVluit:
Military vehicles? For use by your army?

What difference does it make? And no, you wanted buy weapons, as confirmed by your very own officials.

Your money is gone already. JZ of Nkandla is counting it in his fire pool as we speak.

How much weapons can $15 million buy? It wont buy a Rooivalk.

Deliveries have shown only ambulances and SAMIL trucks all NOT armed.

Nigerian military disclosed the list of South African deal to you? When? Even the T-72 tank deals are not disclosed officially, we discovered by photos only, and photos now show SAMIL trucks.....South Africa does not have the kind of weapons we want, Mi-35 Hinds, T-72 tanks, BTR-4 IFV.....you don't have what we need critically, ambulance and trucks is all you have to sell at cheap give away prices, that's why we bought them.

$15 million is chicken money, we are paying Russia $1 Billion for real weapons. Mumu grin

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:55pm On Mar 01, 2015

Patchesagain:
Egypt did not ask for help from you - post your citation again, let me educate you.

Yom Kippur? Stalemate? Israely faced a surprise attack from Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Morrocco who were supported by North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Kuwait and Cuba... 400 000 Isrealy's faced an army of 1 million... and defeated the million men in battle, killed over 18 000 of them, lost only 2000 men and ended up occupying a total of sixteen hundred square kilometers in Egypt and five hundred square kilometers in Syria where they were poised to strike into Cairo and Damascus - they guys who started off defending against a suprise attack ended up in the enemies country and ready to seize his capitals... you call this a draw? It is one of the greatest military victories in history

Nigeria cannot even defeat Boko Haram fighting conventionally - Cameroon and Chad have shown to be superior militarys. Its hilarious.

CITATIONS needed for the above privately fabricated stories
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:49pm On Mar 01, 2015

DieVluit:
So, you confirm that BH captured nigerian towns.

Nope, I never said Nigerian army recaptures, I said we capture, meaning Boko Haram was there contesting the towns.

Capture is NOT = Re-capture.....the towns were infiltrated by Bokos, we captured them and asserted 100% undiluted un-shared control.

SANDF can not do that in Bangui or in Kruger park where you share South African territory with ordinary Rhino poachers grin

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:44pm On Mar 01, 2015

DieVluit:
You cannot offer them for sale.

You've had your money seized trying to desperately buy south african weapons.

Yours is to buy and consume. Not to make and sell.

We did NOT buy any South African weapons with that money, it was for vehicles that were not armed, South Africa did NOT eat our money, you promised to return it, but hunger will not allow you to lose the business, the vehicles are now being delivered....German engine SAMIL Trucks now in Nigerian army.

50 million Southies have no courage to touch Nigerian money, unlike the courageous Dangote R.aped South African economy and swallowed your ONE BILLION RAND and nothing your country could do aboot it, we own and colonize you tongue

http://richnigerianpharmacists.com/south-african-tiger-brand-loses-82-billion-to-dangote-business-lessons/
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:39pm On Mar 01, 2015

MikeCZAR:
[b]SAAF deployed air to ground missiles in combat [/b]before Nigerians even knew what air too ground missiles were.

CITATION needed !
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:35pm On Mar 01, 2015

lezz:
nope, you envy Nigeria for showing the world what blacks can do in a black only country. Black power having the biggest economy on the continent, producing the 6th fastest growing economy in the world.

Conducting peace keeping operations in Africa and internationally.

Expanding entrepreneurs all over Africa.

Launching 3 satellites in orbit.

Having the 3rd largest movie industry worldwide.

Being Africa's music capital.

Having the biggest concentration of billionaires... etc

All just under 55 years.

In contrast everything in southafrica is credited to the 9% Anglo-dutch settlers.

You never contributed to a thing in your country.

That is why Africa can never get any respect globally even if southafrica goes to the moon and back unaided.

You owe the Anglo-dutch everything.

When Julius Malema was addressing his supporters at outside the university, he confessed that if they seized white land, the whites would mess up the economy.

That's where Nigeria comes in. Africa's true hope and leader.

Dis is di Koko !
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:32pm On Mar 01, 2015

MikeCZAR:
Because we are not at war.

If SAAF had pilots to man all 26 plans simultaneously, it would be costly meaning pilots gets less flying hours.

Now you just proved what we said here many times, SANDF is cash broke grin

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:30pm On Mar 01, 2015

Patchesagain:
Those are all the pilots in the NAF

#ShowUsF7'sInTheAir

NAF does not do Hollywood air show with unqualified pilots like you do in SAAF.

We have surplus F-7 jet pilots
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:27pm On Mar 01, 2015

jln115:
NAF has 12 F-7s, why would you have anything short of 12 pilots?

We have over 12 F-7 pilots, I posted photos of 7 of those pilots here many times repeatedly.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:24pm On Mar 01, 2015

DieVluit:
The question was a simple one: in which contested airspace has nigeria used its fighters?

South African air force lost the air battle in contested airspace, Cuban teenage pilots had TOTAL air superiority over SAAF.

You wanna boast about a jet fighters air war in which SAAF lost to inexperienced teenagers from Cuba who were seeing war for the first time?

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:07pm On Mar 01, 2015

DieVluit:
Because your weapons aren't wanted. Simple.

We never offered them for sale, we have a large army 3 times bigger than yours and we need much equipment manufactured locally in Nigerian defence industries by our own DICON, AFIT, BADEH AERO, NACE, PROFORCE, INKAS, NIGERDOCK etc.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:00pm On Mar 01, 2015

MikeCZAR:
SAAF used FLIR since the 80s, you acquire that capability yesterday now you wanna claim you're ahead? LOL

SAAF used guided bombs in the 80s, you only knew about guided bombs 5 hours ago now you wanna claim you're ahead?

SAAF used air to ground radar and other sensors to locate a crashed USA military plane, you wanna tell us what now?

SAAF used air to ground missiles in the 70s and early 80s, it is only now that Nigerians know about air to ground missile now you wanna tell us what?

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 2:50pm On Mar 01, 2015

Patchesagain:
lol, all this butthurt

Chad and Cameroon have known nothing but victory

Your army has had to swallow a heavy dose of defeat.

Yesterday, Cameroonian army confirmed 200 troops dead including Cameroonian BIR Elite Special Forces in the past few months.

Chadian army confirmed their dead at about 20 in one day at Gamboru village fight alone.

Sri Lankan army swallowed several defeats from Tamil rebels but still won the war at the end.

War is all about the finale, the end, who wins at last and kills the enemy.

Nigeria is winning this war at last and Boko Haram is loosing.....your favourite map of Boko Haram controlling territory the size of Belgium has not been posted here by you in the last 30 days....shame will not let you do it....Southie s.cumbag tongue

PHOTO : NIGERIAN ARMY CAPTURES BOKO HARAM TOWNS AND POSES WITH SHEKAU'S CALIPHATE FLAG
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