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Pitokwe:
Wow. Quite insightful.
Do you have a work shop here in Lagos ?

I will not mind to bring the vehicle for on spot assessment and repairs

Please get in touch with this guy //0809//972//5628//

I don't have a workshop in Lagos, but I have a working relationship with guy and I believe he will do you right by the manufacturer

Since what you don't know can kill you, and to demonstrate the need to rely on manufacturer diagnostic trees in resolving car trouble as a result of a single symptom arising from multiple causes, please take time to digest the below.

Report your findings and we can take it up from there.

Read up here:

https://www.nairaland.com/1554520/p1349-code-2002-2azfe-toyota (BEST)


and here

https://www.nairaland.com/1488078/rattling-sound-camry-2azfe-engine (GOOD)

this as well


https://www.nairaland.com/1944623/2005-toyota-camry-rattling-noise (GOOD)

Pitokwe:
Thanks for your response.
I did not go too or used a road side mechanic o.

I went to one of the renowned auto workshop in ikeja .it won't be nice to mention name.they are popular and seem expensive .I paid huge amount to the sensor.

The issue is still on. I am not an auto specialist,do I would not know which procedure they followed during the repair. We do not go into the workshop area,That you know.

So when you say what you get is what you pay for,I do not understand.

Kindly recommend any specialist in Lagos and address if you know one.

Hmmmm....if they didn't do a good job, they deserve bad reviews.

Why protect them?

I am going to show a little more interest in your case.

In subsequent posts, I'll suggest the way forward.

Don't be offended at my earlier post, I expected that from a roadside mechanic.

If it offended you, I hereby tender my sincerest apologies.

Pitokwe:
I drive a 2003 Toyota highlander. My check engine light poped up and I went to do a scan .

It showed the problem below as seen in the below picture . The camshaft sensor have been changed on three occasions by the mechanic but the light keep coming up and the scan results keep being the same after just 10km ride.

They are now telling me that it may be my catalyst that is bad or the ECU/brain box that is faulty.

But the scan results show only the result seen in picture. This have been on for the last two weeks. I need an expert advice. Please help

Was this vehicle fixed through reliance on memory on by reliance on detailed manufacturer repair procedures?

Food for thought.

Garbage in, Garbage out.

What you get is what you pay for.

Find a modern/skilled automotive technician to handle your problem.

The current one lacks the 9 essential skills expected from today's automotive technician and your problem is as good as gone.

You are in Lagos right? Run a search on this forum. It shouldn't be hard to find one suitably skilled.

Want to know about those essential skills, look no further than here https://www.nairaland.com/4560475/american-automotive-technician-training-live

TheCar:
WHAT'S YOUR RETIREMENT PLAN - DRIVER EDITION

1. One day you will retire. You wouldn't be driving on Uber and Taxify forever. Your cash flow and earnings will also reduce.! So please start making plans towards your retirement today.

2. Always go on annual leave. Your body need to be recharged, renewed and refresh. Please don't drive for a year without taking any break. Sitting behind steering all day chasing bonuses without a lengthy break is a great price to pay for wellbeing. Remember, Car Owners, Taxify and Uber aren't going to restore your health back to optimal. It's your life, your health and your lifestyle. Please take it seriously. Also note that whatever you do during your leave, is what you will be doing when you retire. If all you do is to sleep or watch TV, then that’s what you are likely do do in your retirement.

3. Invest for your retirement... your children are not retirement investment. Don’t bank on your children’s support or the support of friends or relations. That’s a BIG risk. It may not happen. Be ready to take care of yourself!! Everyone has his own responsibilities. They won’t be able to help you that much. You will also lose your dignity and respect if you adopt a life of begging after retirement.

4. Start a hobby early in your driving days to take you along when you retire. Rearing chicken, farming or own a shop. Acquire marketable skills (not Uber experience) Etc. Not that Uber/Taxify Experience is entirely bad, but do you know how to convert such experience to money when you retire. Learn a skill while driving.

5. Where shall you retire. Buy yourself a car or build yourself a home. Don't retire and start to rent a house. You will be at the mercy of your landlord at a time when your cash flow is not only reduced but unpredictable!! Have something that would be putting money in your pocket like you put money in Car Owners pockets every week.

6. Who shall be your dependants. By the time you retire, your children should be above 18, and self reliant. No use your youth and agile body carry olosho. Stop wasting your efforts and sp*rm.

7. Don't retire and stay in a big city, unless you can TRULY afford it. You can't continue living in a big city after 60 with limited financial resources. The language and the hustle will be hard for you. Where possible, Relocate to a less expensive town where your reduced take home (pension if any) can go further.

8. Have property which can be rented or converted into cash. Have shares that pay good dividends. Plant cash trees. Rear goats, cultivate vegetables etc. these activities will not only give you income but will also keep you healthy. With the little you earn today, you can start investing in Stock Market for the long term, you can do Treasury Bills or Fixed Deposit with the huge sum sitting in your non-interest yielding account. Ask your banker about fixed deposit rate and currently TB rate. Saving money in a non-interest yielding account is not good for your present and future. Inflation is growing and purchasing power is dropping daily.

9. Live a simple life. You work really hard and sometimes your definition of relaxing makes you a pauper. Instead of spending that bonus on Olosho or in beer parlour, start a contribution, open a new savings account without a debit card or internet banking access. Save the bonus towards getting an asset which would start putting money in your pocket.

10. Take your health seriously. Your health is your wealth. Driving for long hours isn't good for your health, consuming alcohol after sitting behind the steering all day is also dangerous for your health. Please do have a medical checkup once a year. Eat healthy, exercise more, check your weight and body mass like you check your car fluid daily. Early detection is better. Just like your car, your body need care. You insist on using OEM for repairs and maintenance, yet you don't use OEM for your body. Please take your life and health seriously.

Now let go back to work and make money. Weekly Rental Payment is due after the weekend.

Did you notice the thread about masonry?

Initially they focused on one brand, then they diversified.

Drivers take your earnings from driving and put in some business that doesn't require your personal presence to succeed.

Stop driving for uber only. Join taxify. Cultivate an attitude the brings you offline trips. Make friends and turn those connections to account. Life is what you make of it.

Thank me later.

Well done TheCar.

flecho:
Thanks alot, I use d Toyota original red oil filter, I will hv to change back to Mobil xhp

I re-read your post, and your reason for switching was longer oil change interval (OCI).

One rule of longer oil change intervals is to frequently check engine oil level and top up if necessary.

All those who do long OCI practice this rule religiously. Oil will burned up while in use, it is a fact of science, it is inescapable, it is just that the degree varies from engine to engine hence I asked you is the burning within factory specification, then no need to worry, but if it is out of factory specifications, then you need to worry, which boils down to doing the maths and coming to a rational decision based on the cold facts and not emotions which can go anywhere haywire.

8. ENGINE PERFORMANCE (EP) CURRICULUM IN BRIEF


A. General: Engine Diagnosis
B. Computerized Controls Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)
C. Ignition System Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)
D. Fuel, Air Induction, and Exhaust Systems Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)
E. Emissions Control Systems Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)

In this track, our students will learn a total of 43 tasks, I have highlighted the first 5 tasks from Section A and the first 5 tasks from Section E.

Our students will receive the entire list

7. HEATING, VENTILATION AND AIR CONDITIONING (HVAC) (AC) CURRICULUM IN BRIEF


A. General: A/C System Diagnosis and Repair
B. Refrigeration System Component Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)
C. Heating, Ventilation, and Engine Cooling Systems Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)
D. Operating Systems and Related Controls Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)
E. Refrigerant Recovery, Recycling, and Handling

In this track, our students will learn a total of 73 tasks, I have highlighted the first 5 tasks from Section A and the first 5 tasks from Section E

Our students will receive the entire list

6. ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC SYSTEMS (EE) CURRICULUM IN BRIEF


A. General: Electrical Systems Diagnosis
B. Battery Diagnosis and Service
C. Starting System Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)
D. Charging System Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)
E. Lighting Systems Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)
F. Instrument Cluster and Driver Information Systems Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)
G. Body Electrical Systems Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)

In this track, our students will learn a total of 50 tasks, I have highlighted the first 5 tasks from Section A and from Section G.

Our students will receive the entire list

5. BRAKES (BR) CURRICULUM IN BRIEF


A. General: Brake Systems Diagnosis
B. Hydraulic System Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)
C. Drum Brake Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)
D. Disc Brake Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)
E. Power-Assist Units Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)
F. Related Systems (ie Wheel Bearings, Parking Brakes, Electrical)
G. Electronic Brake Control Systems: Antilock Brake (ABS), Traction Control (TCS) and Electronic Stability Control (ESC) Systems Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)

In this track, our students will learn a total of 56 tasks, I have highlighted the first 5 tasks from Section A and from Section G

Our students will receive the entire list

4. SUSPENSION AND STEERING (SS) CURRICULUM IN BRIEF


A. General: Suspension and Steering Systems
B. Steering Systems Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)
C. Suspension Systems Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)
D. Related Suspension and Steering Service
E. Wheel Alignment Diagnosis, Adjustment, and Repair
F. Wheels and Tires Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)

In this track, our students will learn a total of 57 tasks, I have highlighted some from Section A and from Section F

Our students will receive the entire list

3. MANUAL DRIVE TRAIN AND AXLES (MD) CURRICULUM IN BRIEF

A. General: Drive Train Diagnosis
B. Clutch Diagnosis and Repair
C. Transmission and Transaxle Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)
D. Drive Shaft and Half Shaft, Universal and Constant Velocity (CV) Joint Diagnosis and Repair(D&R) [Front, Rear, All-wheel, Four-wheel Drive)
E. Drive Axle Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)
F. Four-wheel Drive/All-Wheel Drive Component Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)

In this track, our students will learn a total of 40 tasks, I have highlighted the some from from Section A and from Section F.

Our students will receive the entire list

2. AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION AND TRANSAXLE (AT) CURRICULUM IN BRIEF

A. General: Transmission and Transaxle Diagnosis
B. In-Vehicle Transmission and Transaxle Maintenance and Repair
C. Off-Vehicle Transmission and Transaxle Repair

In this track, our students will learn a total of 39 tasks, I have highlighted some from from Section A and from Section C.

Our students will receive the entire list

ITbomb:
Hyundai Accent 2013
Manual transmission

When shifting from lower gear to higher, it loses power.
Most times, I will need to clear by the roadside and restart before the engine can respond to acceleration

I have changed oil pump, plugs and ignition coil before.
I use Total 15-50 engine oil

What could be the main problem?

Gotta research it and revert

Eking:
Hello nairalanders, are kia and hyundai cars as reliable as the japanese toyota considering that they are cheaper.

Old thread, yea...question answered somewhat here: https://www.nairaland.com/4191228/dealership-level-diagnostics-hyundai-1996

1. ENGINE REPAIR (ER) CURRICULUM IN BRIEF


A. General: Engine Diagnosis; Removal and Reinstallation (R&R)
B. Cylinder Head and Valve Train Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)
C. Engine Block Assembly Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)
D. Lubrication and Cooling Systems Diagnosis and Repair(D&R)

In this track, our students will learn a total of 51 tasks, I have highlighted the first 5 tasks from Section A and the first 5 tasks from Section D

Our students will receive the entire list

TheCar:
What most people don't know is that Naija Used are golden opportunity hiding in plain sight.

I have bought a few Nigerian used cars that were first rate buys.

It hurts to see educated fellows ridicule their education by claiming without qualifiers that Nigerian used cars should be avoided at all cost.

We all know that to every rule there is an exception -
1. that includes Nigerian used cars, and
2. that includes affluent people hiding in plain sight by buying ordinary cars taking very good care of them while also owning top of the range vehicles and keeping econoboxes for times when they want to blend in

In conclusion, Nigerian used cars can be very good buys, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

dejisvic:
Boss evening sir, please having bought the new gear box. After fix it, ignition is not bringing light. People told me is electrical problem. Pls what do u think could be d problem

Electrical faults? Yes.

Problem not with transmission.

Your mechanic is clueless, try and ask around, you need an electrician (still wondering why the dichotomy in Nigeria between mechanic and electrician) and you should be sorted.

Clue: I want to guess that in order to install the transmission, they had to mess up with the starter, and they have failed to put it back as it was before.

Question: Wasn't the vehicle starting before? If it was, you got a bad mechanic.

eherbal:
been doing research on the 2005 Honda Civic and I dare say it's strong competitor of the Corolla, especially the hybrid version.the mileage per gallon is wowie.does anyone knows if hybrids are good for e-hailing? the civics hybrids are top notch in gas mileage,but don't know if auto mechanics or parts are available in Nigeria.anyone?
gaz.zu.zz?
auto.el.ectng
egun.m.ogaji
anyone?

We have hybrid experts in Nigeria...few yes, but there exist, certified and uncertified, I think there are between one to five threads created by hybrid experts here.

Run a little search you will find

In other news, vehicles made by KIA are catching fire

abcactionnews.com/money/consumer/taking-action-for-you/another-kia-owner-reports-their-car-went-up-in-flames-while-driving

Why Amazon Hired a Car Mechanic to Run Its Cloud Empire

Interesting read:https://www.wired.com/2013/02/james-hamilton-amazon/

God will reward your humility.

Clients will take note and deal with you because you are refreshingly different.

I honestly recommend that you do not allow chasing the truth or exposing the truth to cause you lose your life...I am sure that YOU KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT

It is not worth it

Life will go on, even if you are not around

So you better be around for yourself and those who would be pained beyond measure by your not being around.

To borrow your words: personal security reasons.

U.S. Department of Labor statistics (see picture)

amba2017:
happened as a guy was about to install tracker but funny enough I was there with him and have not seen him cut any wire be for it happened

As noted above

He must have touched something. ..what did he touch....try going through the fuses as recommended. ..which parts of the car did he fiddle with before this?

amba2017:
location is pH. the car was starting very well before and was bought new with no record of repairs/fault

Ok

amba2017:
what house what could be the. cause and possible solution to missing Battery and key symbol on 2017 landcruiser prado . and the car not starting. have been spending on mechanics since yesterday to bo avail

Location?

VIN? Recommended to send via email or WhatsApp and not post here

Then we can take it from there

Any history of repairs prior to this moment?

Was it starting before? Why/When did it stop starting?

Please lay bare as much detail as possible.

If you drive a Hyundai instead of a Corolla, did you make a wrong choice?

If you cannot afford to drive a Corolla, and are stuck with a Hyundai, should you be concerned?

If you can only afford to buy a Hyundai and not a Corolla, should you be worried about the option open to you?


Two posts on this thread https://www.nairaland.com/4191228/dealership-level-diagnostics-hyundai-1996#68674665 will help you decide/answer.

Those dated 11:40PM on June 20, 2018 and 12:08AM on June 21, 2018 will help you judge for yourself

Why is Hyundai such a good brand?

Bill Holstein, a contributing editor to s+b and author of The Next American Economy: Blueprint for a Real Recovery (Walker & Company, 2011) and Why GM Matters: Inside the Race to Transform an American Icon (Walker & Company, 2009) answers in an article entitled " Hyundai’s Capabilities Play":

Hyundai has been able to step out from behind its larger Japanese competitors and stake a claim to style leadership in part because of the culture of creativity that it has fostered, in which U.S. employees and Korean executives innovate together. “Hyundai doesn’t cede as much control to the Americans as Toyota does,” says Ed Kim, who worked at Hyundai for four years and is now vice president of industry analysis for AutoPacific Inc. in Tustin, Calif. “The Koreans remain very much in control.”

But at the same time, Hyundai has learned how to encourage local teams—in this case, U.S. teams—to go out on a limb and compete in search of ambitious and unconventional solutions. The combination of central control and local responsiveness has given the company an ability, now embedded in its culture, to pick up local signals and rapidly turn them into product designs. Managers speak of working at “Hyundai speed.” This has enabled the company to release 21 new North American models in five years, including a new luxury sedan called the Equus.

Hyundai is also recognized for its ability to spread design features among its product lines. It routinely moves technological features from high-end luxury automobiles into much less expensive vehicles. Push-button ignition, rear-vision video monitors, and automatic headlights—features that once appeared only in high-end marques such as Mercedes and Cadillac—are now widespread on Hyundai vehicles costing $20,000 to $30,000. This means, of course, that the company has to keep improving its more expensive cars or their sales will be cannibalized. And even though the company is pouring such expensive “content” into its vehicles, it enjoys an estimated 9 to 10 percent profit margin, which is considered high in the auto industry. The company achieves those margins partly because it limits promotional discounts for buyers in the industry; the cars are sufficiently in demand that the company doesn’t currently need incentives to persuade buyers. It also boasts the best fleet fuel efficiency, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, and the best ownership repurchasing rates, a key test of loyalty, according to J.D. Power and Associates. “We’ve got the whole package right now,” says executive vice president Frank Ferrara at Hyundai Motor’s North American sales headquarters in Costa Mesa, Calif.

But the single factor that has made the most difference is the company’s own interest in building world-class capabilities. Starting in 1998, Hyundai’s leaders set out to develop the kind of prowess the company would need to become a global automobile powerhouse, able to hold its own in the United States and other fiercely competitive markets. Early on, that meant offering a comprehensive warranty and taking specific steps to dramatically improve its quality ratings. Once customers were convinced of the brand’s reliability, Hyundai added other capabilities, such as design, which led to a more diversified product line and more stylish features. Meanwhile, it developed a knack for getting the word out through clever, consistent marketing.

The result is a coherent mix of quality improvement, design, and marketing that gives Hyundai a clear advantage over its industry competitors. Although these are required capabilities at all automakers, Hyundai has excelled at combining them over the past decade, and its sales numbers reflect this success. The company’s effort to become a world-class automaker is beginning to pay off, and it’s far enough along that its story can be credibly told.

As part of their quality effort, Hyundai executives in both Korea and the U.S. studied their competitors, tearing apart their vehicles and adopting their best practices. This led them to rediscover statistical process control and other techniques of quality management, and to resuscitate some of the ideas about systems-oriented management and customer awareness that W. Edwards Deming had originally championed decades earlier, and that other car companies had long been following. For example, when Hyundai executives studied automotive quality indicators to determine how best to catch up to Toyota and Honda, they found that many companies downplayed the customer satisfaction reports of Consumer Reports and initial quality reports of J.D. Power. So Hyundai created a combined metric called “qualativity,” which includes quality, productivity, and customer satisfaction. Hyundai still uses this hybrid concept to measure everything that happens in one of its car plants. “It’s a uniquely Korean approach,” says Chris Susock, director of quality operations at Hyundai Motor’s manufacturing plant in Montgomery, Ala., where the compact Elantra and midsized Sonata sedans are made.

Hyundai also made a big technology bet to support its quality drive. It created the Global Command and Control Center in Korea, which is reminiscent of a U.S. Strategic Command war room, its walls covered with television screens and computer monitors. The company shares little about the center, and treats its secrets as a vital source of competitive advantage; Hyundai will not even reveal the year that it was founded. But some facts are public knowledge. For instance, the center monitors every operating line at 27 plants in the world, in real time, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. The production data is generated on the assembly lines and displayed on boards where team members can see it, and headquarters can see the same data at the same time. If the quality monitors spot errors or problems, they call the factory immediately. “If there’s a hiccup at any of those boards, headquarters wants to know what needs to be done about it—right now,” says the Alabama plant’s production chief, Ashley Frye.

Though Chung Mong-Koo was the prime mover in setting up the quality goal, and personally involved in driving it, company veterans credit Hyundai’s organization with rapid bottom-up response. “The chairman decreed, ‘Within this period of time, we will have the same quality as Toyota,’” recalls AutoPacific’s Kim. “Whenever the chairman makes a decree, there is a very impressive mobilization to make it happen. It’s a Korean cultural thing. The company mobilized and made it happen with breakneck speed.”

Note: If you read the article from which the above is sourced, Hyundai never judged itself by Korean standards, it sought at every point in time especially since the take-over by Chung Mong-Koo to measure itself against the best in the world, against standards set in or by America. This is also the approach of AutoElectNG, to be world-class, to be the best that we can possibly be.

Hence the phrases...world class capabilities...an exacting focus on quality...concerns about global standards...securing the company's reputation for quality


Picture Credits

International Business: The New Realities
By S. Tamer Cavusgil, Hussain Rammal, Susan Freeman

Did you know that Hyundai is a family-owned and family-run automotive manufacturing firm?

Did you also know that Hyundai responded to the " 2008–09 recession with a campaign in which they offered to buy back new vehicles if owners lost their job"?

Picture Credits:

International Business: The New Realities
By S. Tamer Cavusgil, Hussain Rammal, Susan Freeman

LUDATRAVELS:
Bros e be like say your own too much for this matter
You alone don ask plenty questions and the owner never even look your side .why you no face another forest to hunt or na by force he must patronise you

The picture provides the answer you seek, take particular note of his last seen

Thanks for your concern.

Have a lovely day.