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SEPLAT and AIRTELAFRI now trading at about thesame price in London. (£2.90)

Oasisblue:
Where did I say it was alright for anyone to be murdered? Do you have problems with comprehension?

If you weren't confused yourself, why not answer the question I asked about the essence of your useless literature??

ositadima1:
I never lied about anything, you can quote the supposed lie I told for everyone to see. I clearly made projections based on available data. Using the land size and the value of their palm fruits, I arrived at my projections, and it’s all documented here on this thread.

I used sound reasoning to argue with the opposition. Even when they made certain claims, I still proved the possibility of alternative outcomes. To me, lying means presenting speculations as facts, something I never did. From day one, I made it clear that my arguments were based on projections, and I even discussed risk mitigation.

All my posts are here; just search my moniker alongside EllahLakes and you’ll find them. Let me tell you, EllahLakes is going places, though it might take some time. But, at the current price, I need to see commensurate value.

Read the context of his post, he obviously meant to type U didn't do it by coming up with all kind of lies.

GeneralDae:
If the U.S do this alone, are you sure they would care to easily differentiate who the herder terrorists are from amongst the people in Benue and Plateau? Do they even know or care about the dynamics of the conflict in the middlebelt except for the simplistic “Muslims are killing Christians Slogan”? Do you think this would be easy and quick as Trump boasted and would he care if it spirals into something else?

You make it sound like the U. S military is a warfare amateur.

I believe they have ample intelligence to guide their operations, and where lacking they're equally capable of gathering more intelligence.


As far the swiftness and effectiveness of the operations, of course I do not expect it to be as Trump boasts. (The experience with the Houthis already raised a concern- where despite weeks-long campaign, the U.S Still didn't quite decimate them as one would hope)


But the complacency of the government is frustrating, so any help is welcome, as long as it's not worsening the situation.

Oasisblue:
If Saudi Arabia starts talking about Muslim genocide in Nigeria, it will NOT be valid. There is no Christian genocide; there is ethnic genocide in the Middle Belt region, and the victims are mostly Christians. They are victims of ethnic expansionists. If all the Berom, Irigwe, Tiv, Idome, etc convert to Islam and change their Churches to Mosques, it won't stop the criminals from ethnically cleansing them.

So all these your explanations make it alright?? Abi what exactly is the essence of this literature??

We're saying people are being killed, and some parties are offering to help you're giving useless explanations



God forbid, someone is caught at the police custody who has murdered someone dear to you, the police arrested him cause they felt he killed the person with a car, would you say they should release him because it wasn't a car he used, but a motorcycle??

What are you exactly saying?

I just don't understand how people in this country seem to take loss of lives with such levity. I can't imagine a greater loss.

Itzlinda:
The targeted killings of Christians in the middle belt is by fulani militia. The birnin gwari bush extend from kaduna to sokoto to Niger to Benue and nassarawa state. That's why army are having hard time fighting the fulani guys because the bush is very big and the fulani guys knows the terrain.

The fulani do not kill the middle belt guys because they are Christians, they kill them because of the same reason they kill in sokoto and zamfara villages. Mostly for ransom and farm issues.

Go and ask the elders living their they will tell you they have been having issues with fulani for more than 50 years.

If the killing was by boko haram, then it is definitely Christian genocide and cleansing.

But the fulani killing is just criminal enterprises. They are still Christians living just fine in maiduguri and adamawa. The hot bed of boko haram

If the US can truly come to take them out, please let them come, whether they're boko haram or herdsmen, whether they're killing cos of faith or land, it really doesn't matter, if this government has failed for many years now to secure the lives of citizens, this kind of "threat" from the U.S (to annihilate the perpetrators) is completely welcome.

The only reason why anyone would object is either they haven't been a victim or they lack empathy and value for human lives.

The terrorists and good for nothing, if they become manure, I wouldn't mind.

KarlTom:
Congratulations is in place

I tell you 😁

Hopefully I exit completely before the year ends.

Streetinvestor2:
How did u do it.Was it cross deal

Cross deal kwa??
How much is my portfolio.

I just always make sure it's the first order I place every day on both my accounts.

And now after like 1 month, 15% has been filled.

That releases some liquidity with which I can make back the realized losses.

GeneralDae:
They can cooperate with the Government of course and the Government welcomes that but here they are threatening to directly invade a sovereign nation.

Who the sovereignty help?

If all they're coming to do is take out the terrorists that the leaders have only been pleading with, then why not?

Cooperate and offer them weapons that they won't use or offer them money that they would loot when thousands are dying.

@Namaster, I understand your points are valid and logical, I'm just saying who they're completely useless cos you're not accounting for the pains of the victims and their families.


What people call threats, I call offer of help.

If the US is willing, why not let them come wipe out the idiots Abi is there anything else they're threatening to do?

I finally sold sold 15% of my holdings in TOTAL at 576!!

Me that was ready to sell it off at 500!

Namaster:
Lots of smart people on this thread blinded by RELIGIOUS FANATISM.

Just take a look at this NONSENSE.
The entire post VALIDATES my points.

First, I NEVER disputed the fact that Christians are part of the casualties of terrorism in Nigeria.

My point is, and has ALWAYS been, the deaths are NOT tantamount to Christian Genocide.

If an attack kills 6 Muslims and 4 Christians, saying that the attack is evidence of Christian Genocide is MADNESS!

For reference, look up the meaning of genocide.

Next, the US is NOT saying Christians are being massacred. It's saying that they are being TARGETED specifically because of their faith.

My question is simple:

If you intend to EXCLUSIVELY TARGET Christians in Nigeria, where would you go?
The North or the South?

Plus, the fact that you said that they can ignore the deaths of the MAJORITY who are Muslims and cling to the deaths of Christians which are fewer and then label that as evidence of a Christian Genocide PROVES my point that this definition of genocide is SUBJECTIVE and PRETEXTUAL.

It's NOT based in reality.
It's the OPINION of some people with their own agenda.

To further prove my point, you said the US will inevitably "tilt" towards Christianity.

What you really mean is that they are UNREALISTICALLY SKEWED and BIASED.
They needed to DOWNPLAY the deaths of Muslims to fit their FALSE narrative of a Christian Genocide.

That does NOT speak of someone with an altruistic intention.
There is an AGENDA.

If an attack kills 6 LETTERS and 4 NUMBERS, it requires a feat of mental gymnastics to proclaim that the attack was a targeted genocide of NUMBERS.

Apparently, many people are EAGER to demonstrate this level of mental gymnastics.

Also, the notion that they are somehow justified in their conclusions because of the religious affiliation of the terrorists is NONSENSE.

According to that, it wouldn't be a Christian Genocide if the perpetrators were also Christians.
Pure MADNESS!

Now, back to your Israeli analogy.

First thing to note here is that the US is NOT complaining or expressing concerns about the welfare of Christians in Nigeria.

They are OFFICIALLY labelling it a GENOCIDE.
And that's just WRONG.

A better analogy would be like if terrorists of Nigerian origin attacked a NIGERIAN village in Nigeria known to be prone to terrorist attacks and somehow 2 Israeli tourists were among the total victims of about 5 who died and US Politicians started saying the Israelis were the REAL targets all along.

That previous attacks on the village that resulted in multiple deaths have all been EXCLUSIVELY targeted at the 2 Israelis who were NOT even there at the time

It's RIDICULOUS!

In contrast, if terrorists of Nigerian origin travelled to Israel and BOMBED a synagogue; NOBODY would need to be convinced that the targets were Israelis.

To reiterate my points:

Christians are being killed.
Muslims are being killed.
Nigerians are being killed REGARDLESS of their religion.

That's NOT a genocide.
It's an INDISCRIMINATE killing of innocent Nigerians which is still a SERIOUS problem.

Anybody who insists otherwise has ULTERIOR MOTIVES.

Finally, this will be my last contribution on this thread in relation to this matter.
The thread is too SIGNIFICANT to be used for such discussions.

When you go to a church to bomb the worshippers there, that to you isn't people being killed for their faith?

The fact that Mosques get attacked too doesn't change the fact.


The US has chosen their bias, let other world powers choose their too.

If tomorrow Saudi Arabia starts raising concerns about Muslim genocide in Nigeria, that too would be valid.

The good thing is if the US lives up to their promise of taking out the perpetrators, both Muslims and Christians would be better off for it.

You're too short sighted to see this, and you think your useless grammar is what helps anyone.

Who cares about your incoherent analogies and useless points when we're talking about human lives

zendi:
Mpeace you no go kee pesin.

So tarriff man Trump is planning a regime change attack because we did one little 15% tariff of our own. Would it not be better for them to use the CIA to just blow up Dangote Refinery if so, because that's the only threat to fuel importation.

ko Haram.

The facts don't support this 15% tax issue, except if the post was just out of humor.

Most of our imported fuel come from Europe, so U.S wouldn't be bothered if we cut back.

Now that we're refining is when we're even helping U. S get a trade surplus with us with our import of WTI, so they'll be all for Dangote Refinery's success

zendi:
I saw this on BBC News this morning.

This is what happens when you're the most powerful military in the world. Then you take a young hot-headed ex-army dude and change his job title from Defense Sec to War Secretary.
Have you not re-programmed him from Defensive to Offensive?
Inevitable outcome is military adventurism.

For Nigeria there is no cause for alarm.
America will not be invading the country country if they decide to go thro with it.
Gboko Haram will be a ragtag militant no-show, up against a Trump-Military that put paid to the Islamic State Caliphate in 3 months of his first coming.

All it will take is a small US Military Outpost in Sambisa Forest equiped with the most lethal land and air military technologies, and co-odination with the surrounding militaries of Nigeria, Cameroun, Chad and Niger.
As the Americans decimate the militants in the forest, those who escape will be mopped up by aforementioned surrounding militaries if the will to finish the insurgency is there.

Ninety-nine percent of Nigerian territory should not even know there is a war on.

Part 2 of Nigeria's security problems is the Fulani Jihad in the Middle Belt and Herdsmen Terrorism all over the Country. Addressing those are simple acts of the President's will to act.
Call in the Military Chiefs and the IGP.
Bang your hand on the desk and order the Chiefs to protect the Middle Belt Communities from Fulani Invaders.
Bang your hand on the desk and order the IGP to disarm the Fulani Herders of the miltary-grade assault riffles they carry about, ferreting out and proscuting their suppliers of such weapons.

There is no systematic Christian Genocide.
But there is Jihadi Insurgency, Gboko H, and Fulani Terrorism. And for sure Jihadists target all non-adherents of the particular extremism they profess, especially when such non-adherents are Christians.

You're exactly right 💯💯
That's how I see it too.

If they can operate for 3 months and make our country safe again, even the economy would be better off for it, but the largest payoff to me would be the thousands of lives saved.

ogawisdom:
Well American is all about their interest, they really don't care about Christians in Nigeria

What interests?

Is it our 1.5m BPD they're eyeing or what?

Or our lithium that's lying waste which investment from the US might actually help us gain more from?


We actually do have leadership problem in the country, what I see here is help that should be embraced.

ogawisdom:
This better not be true ooo because it won't end well with our economy. Foreign investors may pull out compounding our problems.

Uncertainty is not good for our economy. CGT and now this

For the sake of the victims and their families, please let it be true.

Should we allow the complacency to linger because we've not been affected?

What the government should do is take the free help.

Cos if the department of war sets aside $5bn for a month long operation, that's already more than our entire military budget for an entire year, why should that be rejected?

When it's not like they have a better strategy than endless reshuffling of service chiefs.

Namaster:
Let me make it shorter:

1. Where is the largest concentration of Christians in Nigeria?

2. Where do terrorists attack the most?

3.When all the deaths from terrorists attacks in Nigeria are tallied, what is the ratio of christian deaths to muslim deaths?

4. Why do you think someone who is violently ABDUCTING Christian Latinos and TRAFFICKING them to strange countries care about the ALLEGED plights of Black Christians in Nigeria?

5. Why do you excuse the deaths of Muslim-Nigerians but find that of Christian-Nigerians an objectionable act of genocide?

My point is simple:

Nigeria has a serious security problem.
ALL Nigerians are being killed regardless of ethnicity and religion.

ANYBODY who says there is a genocide of certain specific group of Nigerians is a LIAR with an ulterior, and likely sinister, motives.

Finally, it's a HUGE JOKE to think that the same America financing the GENOCIDE in Gaza somehow cares about an alleged genocide in Nigeria.

The American Politicians are using the claims of genocide as a PRETEXT for something else.

Are you saying Christians are not being killed??

If terrorists killed 4 Christians and 6 Muslims, and I say terrorists killed Christians, how is it hard for you to see that my statement is factual.


The US is saying Christians are being massacred in Nigeria, the fact that Muslims are also massacred doesn't invalidate that statement, the only thing that does is if no Christians are indeed killed.

The only thing you can pick the US for is why they aren't showing concerns for slain Muslims as they are for slain Christians.

But that's their choice, it doesn't render their concern invalid.

Whether you like it or not, the US will tilt towards Christianity more, plus their thinking is that the perpetrators are islamists so why should they bother.

It's like if Nigerian terrorists go to a place to kill Nigerians and Israelis and then the US complains about the slain Israelis and you try to say their complaints aren't valid cos Nigerians were also slain. In that context, the US cares more about Israelis ordinarily, then again they believe the perpetrators are themselves Nigerians, so maybe they don't care as much.

mallamOmonile1:
We seem to be too scared of this CGT.
Let me aak please:

Assume i have a COMPANY that deals in pharmaceauticals(or anyother biz) which i also use to trade in shares on the NGX. The following are my financisl year result for 2026:

Sales of pharmaceauticals ....50m
Direct cost......................40m
Other income(gain on sale of shares)......15m
Staff cost.............10m
Rent......................8m
Travel....................5m
Electricity..............8m
Depreciation........2m

Note
The gain on sale of shares was arrived as follows:

Cost of shares (Acquired Dec 2000)......140m
Proceed of disposal (Sold July 2026)......155m
Gain on disposal (July 2026)....................15m.

Please Gurus in the house:
A. Is there Income tax payable, if yes, how much?
B. Is there CGT payable, if yes, how much?

Na mallam i be, i no too sabi book, e jo diye diye.

There's really no more CGT, you should be liable to CIT, but since you made a loss, you won't pay. Also if your turnover is below 100m or so per annum, you don't pay any taxes, even if you make 90m as profits.

chimex38:
Trump also invited Pastor Kumuyi to his inauguration in USA January this year.
Both can be mediators.

They should mediate and let the government's complacency continue?

Is the president's life worth more than that of a single victim??

If the US is willing to put boots on the ground, they're totally welcome, even if it's a 50% reduction in the violence that's achieved, that would translate to thousands of lives saved per year.

I don't see any loser here, apart from an incompetent government trying to protect silly ego in the name of sovereignty.

We really need to value human lives much more than some of our people currently do.

ololufemi:
Oga, go and verify. Donald Trump's daughter, Tiffany is married to Michael Boulous, a product of the Bolous Group Empire (Massad and Sarah Boulous). Dude was even born in America as well, so he holds multiple passports. They are naturalised Nigerians thus making their son a Nigerian.

Sarah Boulous owns Society for Performing Arts in Nigeria and she is the face behind the Nigeria version of the reality show Dancing with the Stars that ruled the Nigerian Airways a few decades ago. Her husband, Massad Bolous runs the Bolous Group through SCOA PLC, his major holding company, and he is heavily invested in many sectors of the Nigerian economy such as toiletries, motorcycles, electronics, automobiles, heavy duty equipments, etc.

I apologize for insinuating your statement was wrong.

ololufemi:
Many forget that his daughter is married to a Nigerian. 😁

We're referring to the Donald Trump on planet Earth.

NGN ends the weeks at 1421.73.

We expect news of successful debt issuance to help accelerate the move below 1400, as reserves continues its journey towards $50bn!

300bps cut expected also in the coming month.

NGN closing at 1436.97


I knew once 1450 got broken, 1400 wouldn't be as hard!

kintus:
I have been trying to make a deposit from Zenith to Sterling but my money keep getting bounced.

They also have a GTBANK ACCOUNT.

Stockhunter:
Ngx needs to reconsider this 100k units esp for stocks with high share price. The day after okomus result it did 1billion in value yet price no change. Presco no event get any offer or bid above 100k units on the trade table since release of result. Nestle did over 2 billion in value yet barely moved..

Same things I've been advocating.

There was a time when this stagnation affected almost every stock prices above 1k.

PRESCO and OKOMU were yet to join the club then.

They should just allow 10k units for stocks priced above 1000.

Streetinvestor2:
Na who wan buy
I just dey reason watin fit happen to that ASi after the release of all q3 results. Look at the good results released that it didn't do much.
Now foreign investors will be sitting on the fence till they understand this government economy management for next yr.
Na so I take hang for total with no hope again with what I am seeing

In this case, the question is na who wan sell.

The stock has been on full bid for about 1 years now.

AIRTEL's stagnation has gotten worse today.

It gained 16% in London to now be at over 5200.

NGX is still looking for who will sell 100k units at 2500.

Finally, NGN broke the 1450 resistance to close today at 1448.21

Next, we await close at 13xx.xx.

Here where I'm currently constructing, I learnt of a new brand Mangal, he too prices like his predecessors.


So even though there are now 4 players, competition still in non existent.

Agbalowomeri:
I still remember BTC @200-400
The rest is history

You that I know, my guess is you were waiting for it to crash to #12 😁😁😁

GeeKudi:
The Nigerian populace is at the mercies of its merciless capitalists. Here, prices can double over night at the slightest trigger and never come down. In Europe, at the onset of the COVID crisis when there was panic shopping everywhere, you enter a mall and the shelves are almost empty but prices stayed practically unchanged in stack contrast to what obtains in Nigeria. There should be stricter regulations/laws to protect Nigerian consumers from price gouging.

😁😁😁 You're exactly right.

chimex38:
He said 2030!!
Abi you no read him timeframe?

Edited:
Oh.. OK 5yrs..
Omoh.. I still dey 2005..wtf

Please buy 5000 BTC when it launches, then DM Me when you get back to 2025 so we can share the loot 😁😁😁