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Untap143:
Please house advice on this. Can I use another sponsor with the first sponsor in my new application. My delays was based on ......sufficient and available resources

YES

SeyiMiilan:
Chill out sir/ma....9 weeks is still young, my app over 14weeks, just stay positive..@PhemosticLaLa

Please open a case enquiry. Applicants are supposed to open case enquiries after 8 weeks of submission.

WESTERNCR:
Nice theory Mr Ago..... but sm ppu believe paying of tuition fee is automatic to getting trv

Auto-ginni? Please tell the ppl to read part 8 and learn. I didn't pay a kobo or should I say a cent, despite being denied on "insufficient funds" grounds. If you like call me Ijebu........na u know lol.

kwenu:
are we to say that every school listed on the CIC website page are non redflag schools to the canadian embassy, seeing that they posted/advertised those schools on this website. i say this because it s not so with the USA. the USA will not grant visas to anyone with a Community College Admission Letter,
this school is a bible school or chistian college, only bible related courses they offer.
the school is not tuition free

Please search the CIC webiste and u ll find lots of them with such offers

May I know the source/basis for your statement: "the USA will not grant visas to anyone with a Community College Admission Letter"? Because it is NOT TRUE, except they started it last night.
The issue with Canada tertiary institutions is, not all of them is fit to accept International Students. I'm not sure about this though, but I think the designation of schools by CIC started as a result of fraud by some institutions that connive with International students to migrate them to Canada under the cover of studying in Canada, thereby reducing the reputation of the education system in Canada. That is why a school's designation is not permanent, as the school can be sanctioned if found wanting/guilty and her designation/permit/license to accept international students withdrawn.

So if the Bible College is a designated learning institution, and you're sure of what you want, you can go ahead and apply to the school for admission. Getting Study Permit will not be a problem, so far you meet CIC's requirements for issuing Study Permit.

princeade09:
hello house, thank you so much for everything @thesoj, @ayooluwatoni and others, I really do appreciate your helps.

my question for today is, my tuition fee is $7784 and differencial fee is 8448 for a year, I would like to pay a semester tuition fee in order to add weight to my application, can I pay half of the yearly tuition fee or I must pay half of the yearly tuition fee+ half of yearly differencial fee?

I mean can I pay 3892$ or I must pay $3892+4224= 8116?

I honestly don't always support making financial commitments such as paying tuition / accommodation fees, or purchasing air ticket etc, before getting TRV. It is safer to show proof that the money has already been given to you; either by a deposit made to your Nigerian account in the name of your sponsor (which will be reflected both in your statement of account and your sponsor's) or by a deposit made to an account (in your name) for you in Canada by your sponsor, with proofs.
PAYMENT OF TUITION FEES DOES NOT GIVE MORE WEIGHT TO YOUR APPLICATION, except if it is a condition for your admission (I.e. the school gave you a conditional admission, upon payment of tuition or acceptance fee).
It is true that payment of tuition fee may show a little bit of commitment on the part of the applicant or the sponsor, but it is not a determinant at all. We've had lots of people on this thread in the past that paid tuition yet were refused visa, and in fact if you check the application guide, it was directly discouraged.

However, if you insist, I think it's good you pay full tuition fee for a year.

I wish you good luck.

Good news flowing in already.....Oya all of you that just got the APPROVAL mail come here and share your testimony now o......before we contact CIC to*******

dmines22:
Hi all....
Thanks to GOD even for the refusal of my Study Permit.
My Timeline.

06 Oct - Online Application
09 Oct- Biometrics done
13 Nov- Medical mail
17 Nov- Medical done at IOM,Ikeja
20 Nov- Medical passed update
30 Nov- Application refused

Documents submitted.
Sponsor is my blood sister (Nurse)
Letter of introduction from her place of work
Affidavit of sponsorship
Letter of sponsorship
SOA of 5m
Payslips
Tax ID
Property evaluation of 25m
Nursing certificate
Mine (applicant)
Study leave letter
Introduction letter from work
Payslips
SOA of 277k
Power of attorny worth 1.8m (Tenancy agreement)
Offer letter .
Childhood pics of sponsor and I ( applicant)
@thesoj and ayooluwatoni and all... Please help me tackle this
NB : No family is accompanying me and am single... I filled my family form as single and ticked no one is accompanying me... Mistake on part of VO i guess

This is about the first time I'm seeing so much reasons.....mehn, this VO no even fear God, about 8 reasons for you alone?
Really sorry about your delay. Please be sure with God all things are possible, and once He says yes, no VO can say NO. I saw your PM, but I was in dreamland then....I'll get to u asap.
Let's Start Afresh and see how best to tackle all the reasons.
I agree with SOJ's assessment, and may I ask what your definition of a strong SOP is? I mean Letter of Explanation? The VO obviously was not convinced you're seeking to enter Canada to study, and that's basically the work of the SOP/LOE.

princeade09:
good day boss, pls may I have an idea of how the budget I may prepare to submit with my application may look like? I don't even know how to start.

U can pm me, while I search for a sample

Untap143:
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I think Your case is quite simple and you can reapply as soon as you work on the following:

1. Prepare a comprehensive Sponsorship letter. It is not automatic that your Sister-inlaw should sponsor you. Let her try and state a good reason why she's sponsoring you. She should also state a particular amount she will be giving u in total and how she intends to give u, maybe she'll give u all at once, or yearly.

2. Prepare a budget. Make provision for every cost, including students' union fees, insurance, airfare etc

3. Make the budget realistic, prepare it like someone from Ijebu, don't quote high figures (but of course not too ridiculous figures), so your total estimate won't be high. Instead of going for a room of 500 dollars per month, go for 350 per month. Instead of using 5000 to feed per month, you can reduce it to 3500......just try and cut everything that can be cut..........

4. Ask your sister inlaw if it's possible to raise her balance a bit, even if it means just borrowing to print her SoA. But if it's not possible, you should still be fine.

Lastly, take your time with that study permit form, make sure you don't make any mistake. Select "other" as your sponsor and then fill "sister inlaw - (her name)".

Let me at this point allow the GURUs to add/remove.

princeade09:
see me inside gbege! bro do u mean my yearly expense is for instance one year total us 26513$ does it mean at the available fund part I should put 26513$ X 4? in fact bro make u no talk say I dey ask too much oo as as people say person wey dey ask no dey miss road ..... OK make I open complete file for u.

my sponsor has 8m in his account and I have 3 million in my account, assuming u were the one, how much will u write as available fund? I am going for 4 years bachelor of arts and social sciences at Dalhousie uni

I believe SOJ has done justice to your question. But if I was the one like you asked, I will add the total amount my uncle promised to give me (irrespective of what he has in his account, because what he has in his account may not be available, after all he's not my dad and he's got his responsibilities as well) with the total money I have in my account. That should give the total money available for My Study. which I think should be the sum of Tuition + rooms and board + others + my personal miscellaneous expenses (if any)

thesoj:
Bros, you are so helpful on this thread. It seems though that CIC doesn't require UG applicants to have the funds for all four years at the time of TRV application. Several UG applicants on this thread have gotten their TRV with about a N10m balance, which is a "Funds Available" amount less than the amount sufficient for 4 years in many cases.

See this link (scroll down and click on Financial Sufficiency) to read the relevant aspect. It says "Students are required to demonstrate financial sufficiency for only the first year of studies, regardless of the duration of the course or program of studies in which they are enrolled." I do agree though that a Nigerian UG applicant should have more than one year of funds in the "Funds Available" box. It seems N10m in sponsor accounts balance is the minimum sweet spot (based on previous UG applicants) for Nigerian UG applicants. @princeade09 hope this helps you.

oh I didnt mean an applicant should have the total fund for 4 years o..... habba! That's gonna be huge sum....
But at the same time I didnt know one could sum up required funds for just a year as available funds. I actually calculated the money required for my entire study in Canada, and that was what I quoted as funds available. My funds available was the same as the total amount my sponsor claimed he'd give me in the sponsorship letter. Although he stated in the sponsorship letter he wasn't gonna give me the whole sum at once, but in installments.

thanks for that.

princeade09:
thanks very much boss I do understand, it simply means sponsor cannot say he Will give u all the amount in his account, but assuming sponsor says he will give let say 5m and I have 2m in my account which means available fund is 7m despite sponsor has 10m as closing balance.

then my question is, assuming the available fund which us 7m is not up to the total amount needed for a year, what is the view about that? but a sponsor writing in the letter if sponsorship that he his ready to give 8m out of the 10m he has in account, is that been exaggerated?

don't get it wrong, available funds is not money required for a year in Canada, but the total funds available for your study in Canada.if you'll spend 4 years, funds available must be the total funds that will cater for your prog for the 4 years.

AverageNed:
Good day house.
Does getting a medical request mean that you have passed the state of financial documents?. I know that at this point it is still possible to be denyed. But would the denial still be based on financial documents?.. Thank you.

Anything is possible, I was denied because of insufficient funds (in fact it was just 1 reason) to after medicals. Please deal with your fears, remain positive and your application will be granted.

TempusQ:
CIC I hail thee!

1st application (September intake) reasons for denial:
1) purpose of visit
2) travel history
3) family ties
4) personal asset and financial status

2nd Application (January intake) reason for denial:
Only (1) Insufficient fund

I used the same documents as in my 1st application to apply for the 2nd time. The only change was my sponsor's SOA increased from 5M to 6M.
N/B: I paid full 1st semester tuition.
College in Ontario.

OMG TempusQ, so sorry about that. It is obviously not about funds. Probably the VO didn't believe the credibility of ur sponsor. What program are u going for and how much ur total tuition fee? What is the duration? How much did your sponsor state he'll give u in his sponsorship letter? Was it insufficient funds to pay living expenses in canada without working or to pay tuition without working? Which one exactly was ticked?

princeade09:
good day to everyone and wishing a blessed month of December to us all... This month of December will not swallow you and your family, but will vomit out your riches that other months have swallowed in Jesus name. Amen

I got admission to Dalhousie university for January '16 and applied for visa but got denied on 12th Nov.... insufficient fund and job prospect. therefore I have deferred to may '16

my question is that on the CIC for where they asked for the cost of studies and available fund.
on my admission letter it is written
-off campus residence & food $9900
-tuition fee $7784
- differential fee $8444
all summing to 26513/year

knowing that I will live off campus and I can manage not to spend up to $9900 for food and residence, do I necessarily have to write the $9900 or reduce it...

second question concerning the available fund, am I to write the sponsor account balance only or also add the values of properties for instance if sponsor has a car of 5m and account balance is 10m would I write 5m+10m=15m as available fund or 10m only?

You can prepare ur own budget, which u will attach to your application. Make the budget real and convincing, but avoid quoting high figures.
Total funds available is the total funds u're getting for ur studies. For example if your sponsor will be giving you 5m, and in your own account, u av like say 2m, total funds available for ur studies will be 7m. Please dont make mistake of writing a figure that is above what u can proof. These people take so seriously whatever you write down by yourself, as they believe it was written by you.
I wish u good luck

dotmons:
Just an act of faith. Wrote this down yesterday, Just hoping and praying things turn out well, and so it came to be.

Dunno, though I played my lil role, but here is the break down. Thanks to you all in the house.

06 October - Online Application (M.SC, UofR)
06 October - Biometric Request
08 October - Biometrics Done
13 November - Medical Request
17 November - Medical Done
19 November - Medical Passed
01 December - Passport Request

Gracias!!!.

What a good new month present. .....Congrats

Arcayo:
Hello house,
I have an offer for fall 2016 at Conestoga construction management and I have started/submitted online application I should go for biometric tomorrow, am I too early for my application?
I am sponsoring myself, married with 2kids not traveling with me though, what are my chances? Please Gurus in the house
I read Architectural Technology

You're funny. Just kept laughing. Bros you've submitted your app already. There's nothing any one can do here than to wish you all the best. God will favour you. Just be positive.
BTW, it's not too early to apply for visa. CIC can be unpredictable at times.

nam16:
Thanks. i just chat with them and they confirm is been ready. imagine no notifications...

Thank God. Go pick ur visa bro. Guess they r under pressure again from winter semester applicants

[quote author=yusuf000000 post=40569667][/quote]Are u sure your reason was "insufficient fund" or "personal asset and financial status"? Because the combination of reasons you stated, travel history, purpose of visit and personal and financial status all go together. And I think that should be because you didn't convince the VO on the reason why you're going for Human Resource, when you studied Agric Econs in undergrad.
May I also ask when you completed your undergrad? And what you've been doing since you graduated?

Anyway, You can look for a masters prog in Agric Econs (check University of Manitoba) or apply for a master's prog in Economics.
Cheers

Untap143:
@ Ayo.........Hello Bro I picked up my application/passport yesterday . I was refused based on the.......... sufficient and available financial resource which I think is also same to your case. Please could you kindly state the approach you used to tackle this. My account balance was .5.5m, my sponsor's account balance was soo low though is foreign account. She is my in law

I laugh at the way you people call money here o. 5.5M is so low? 5.5m is not low o. Something must have been wrong. Please share ur profile. I'm particularly interested in:
1. The exact reason(s) the VO ticked.
2. Your tuition fee
3. Duration of program
4. The type of accommodation and your monthly estimate
5. The figures you provided in your application form; for room and board, tuition, others, total funds available for study.
6. Did you prepare/submit any budget? What was your total estimate?
7. Who is your sponsor? Did you establish a relationship with your sponsor?

The truth is, under normal circumstance, an soa of 5.5m is enough to get u a TRV. I stand to be corrected though. According to CIC, an applicant is expected to have at least 10k cad which is about 1.6m for living expenses for a year excluding tuition. Probably you quoted more than you had or the VO was not convinced your sponsor would sponsor you or there was a lump sum. Something must be wrong.
so try and ans those questions. You don't have to be Dangote's child or Davido's brother to school in Canada, else people like us wouldn't get a chance at all.

Oluwaskinny:
Please any one with some useful advice for a brother... I finished my sec school in 2004 and I haven't had enough funds to finish my national diploma back then.. due to some issues I had then but I haven't been idle ever since then, worked with different companies... And presently I am planning to enroll at a college in Canada soon! I hope this wont hinder my chance of getting admitted cause of the age and years I had already finished my O level... I read something on Ontario college website about matured students and it was also stated there that "Note that if you have completed high school, even decades ago, you are still considered a high school graduate and you may not apply as a mature student" Fund is readily available. I so need reply on this asap

Of course you can apply and sure u can get TRV, it may not be easy though, as u'll have a lot of work to do convincing the VO you're indeed going to study in Canada. If you can show proof of what you've been doing since u finish secondary school, and can explain why you haven't gone for your undergrad since 2004, the you will get your TRV. Don't be discouraged by the posts on this thread, but rather be encouraged to give it one straight shot, and with God on your side, it's gonna end in Praise.

nam16:
Dear all,
Is it possible for the passport to b ready for collection without vfs email notification?. Approval mail was on 19 Nov. Distpacth on 23 nov via tracking.

No. You should get 2 mails from vfs. If you don't get it after today, call vfs to ask.

QueenOfQueens:
Quick response, thanks!!!
No, I'm not on a "temporary status or student visa" in the US. My concern is because I'm not yet a U.S. citizen. Do Canadian schools usually give graduate assistantship -GA or financial aid for International Students? It seems like the next admission cycle is September '16. That's a long ass wait. It is well.

Oh, then you don't have to go to Nigeria. Sure some schools offer funding to international students. I think it depends on the school, you may be able to apply for May Admission

QueenOfQueens:
Newbie here!!

I'm considering relocating to Canada from the U.S for an advanced degree. I schooled and now work in the U.S., but its time to take a leap of faith and a lil challenge for something new. I'm not sure where to start with this process, but I'll try to read backwards and google-it-out.
1. Can I get a students visa over here or do I need to interview in Nigeria?
2. Is it TRV->Student permit or can I work towards them simultaneously?

Your status in the US will determine if you need to go to Naija or Apply here in the US. If your Student Visa is still valid, or you have a legal status (not B1/B2 visa) in the US, then you don't have to go to Naija. You can work while you study. You have 20 hours to work weekly, during academic sessions, and you can work full time during breaks, but you must be a full time student registered in a Designated Learning Institution and your program must lead to a degree or a license. You can also apply for a work permit after your program in Canada.

thesoj:
I agree that we should stop the theological argument.
But abeg see the bolded text below; your claim that the fraudulent applicant's success was due to God's "favor" is distasteful and unethical in itself; s/he wasn't "favored" s/he just happened to not get caught. Period. Once we, as Nigerians, become a nation of ethical critical thinkers, we will have a chance. So far, we are too quick to use God as a crutch. And we wonder why Naija is backward. We are a religious nation with ungodly people.

Ahahaha.... I tire o brother mi. I Just decided to overlook that..... Bro, biko let's just bury this issue. Everyone has right to his or her opinion and/or belief. My own business here is to give my opinion about an issue, and not to enforce my belief or opinion on anyone..... what I see before drawing my conclusions may not be visible to another, hence we'd view things differently. But you know one question I keep asking myself? If a person thinks s/he has nothing to do about his/her application, and that it is 100% in God's hands, with no work on his/her part, what is the person doing on this thread? I think such a person should be in the church or mountain praying, and not here on "Nairaland's Traveling to Canada Thread", anyway, maybe not to ask questions or learn from others, maybe just to encourage people not to work, but leave it all to God to do. Well, it's a new day and goodbye to yesterday.....although it's still Yesterday here.... lolz

Tenaj123:
The problem with bringing up theological arguments is that people get really sensitive about these kind of topics and everyone has his or her own views. If we do not stop this argument now, it would probably go on for the next 10 pages.

In other news... Pls I applied about 11 weeks ago, got called for medicals about 5 weeks ago and yet no Visa. I have mailed cic and still no visa. I am actually getting worried. I know there's nothing I can do right now. I just feel sharing my worries would make me feel better.

It is really disturbing, but try and get busy with something. Start shopping for flights and accommodation. Start preparing if your admission is for Winter 2016. And never allow negative thoughts. Trust God and believe. I know the waiting is killing, especially after medicals, but it's okay. I think mine took about 5 weeks or so after medicals too, so it's not strange.
You shall testify real soon.

olamitunposi:
Well that is all I can say about it.. And I am sure it's not a Lie. And then Her fiance is a US Soldier. And it's not what they say or heard. Maybe I did misquote the type of Visa but I am sure it's not a Student Visa nor a Visiting Visa (100%) . And the 10 yrs grant made me believe there is nothing God Can't do... And I still stand with the fact that God has the Larger percent. Either your app is perfect or not. He knows the plans He has for everyone one of us. That was why I said Que Sera Sera.

Bros no APP is PERFECT. You're correct! God has the final say, you're also correct. But I think Man has a big work to do too. The Bible says "Study to show yourself approved, a workman who needs not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth". Which is my point.

olamitunposi:
I still believe it's God that do all thing... I will give you an example. A close friend sis went for an interview at the US Embassy in May. While on the que to be screened for interview, The VO who has been scrutinizing everyone's documents has been denying the applicants visa, but on getting to her turn, guess what, he didn't checked any of her documents just the name of her Fiance because she is going on a K-1 visa. Guess what she was given 10 yrs on her green card... Are you still going to say that isn't God's work?
What ever the case might be when it comes to VISA aspect, We all need God's grace, mercy and favor in all things and most important part is Faith.
I wish all TRV expectant Success including myself. And to all that are yet to apply, Package your App very well and Trust in God. Que Sera Sera

I honestly don't expect this topic to bring argument at all. It is only a fool that will say there's no God. And of course no one receives anything except given by God. But for the fact that God approves or has given you does not mean you won't work for it. True you may not labour like others will (because the Almighty has favoured you), but it is still your responsibility to play your part. It is your responsibility to know what documents to submit, it is your responsibility to explain yourself and make the VO understand your situation. God won't come and do all these for you. After you've played your part well, then chill and see how God will perfect it all. That is my opinion. It is my belief. You don't have to agree, but that doesn't make it invalid, neither does it render your opinion invalid too. This thread was created so we all could give our opinions on issues.

WESTERNCR:
Yeah.... that's a consolation bro....... if not I'll say you just lost 14k but all the same ojasope!!!

mine was better though, someone else had to do fresh medicals, because IOM didn't agree to do what consultant practice did

[/quote author=Kenyata post=40489334]Hi all, Is inclusion of Statement of purpose compulsory for paper Visa application? Secondly, can one apply against January now?[/quote]SOP is not compulsory. If you don't have anything to explain then u don't have to write anything. It is called letter of explanation, and it is used to explain certain things to the VO. I submitted a letter of explanation in my 2nd app because I submitted the application late (about 5 weeks before the start of my program), and the only thing I explained in the letter was the reason for submitting late, which was as a result of my first visa refusal which was due to insufficient funds. I see some people write the whole biography of their lives in the Letter of Explanation, writing the same information they already filled in the form.....I am lagbaja, the last child out of the 10 children Of temedo bla blah

You dont need that honestly. Except you have things to explain. Maybe you've been working for some time before going for masters, or you're changing field of study or anything u think should be explained, so the VO can understand your situation clearly.

WESTERNCR:
hmmm........ one of my cousins who actually was a victim of refusal after medical passed reapplied on 31st Oct. He only uploaded the medical request form he earlier got to the medical section cos he applied online. two days ago CIC updated his medical to medical passed. I believed CIC must have seen his earlier medical details cos he was worried may be he shld have requested the clinic to send him an acknowledgments of medical done in order to upload.
Still praying fervently for his pp request........so I pray for all those expecting passport request youshall get it this week in JESUS name. If you believe this say a big amen!!!!

that's good. I did the same, but CIC requested for medical exam, went to the medical facility, where I did my medicals, and I was told to pay 14k, as the iME of my previous app is different from the current one. Had no choice, I paid 14k. But the consolation is, it was successful.

thesoj:
@Pinkcandy97
While it is fair to thank God for every outcome, getting your TRV has little to do with God.
Nigeria is one of the most religious countries in the world and we have been praying for our dear country for decades upon decades, yet our economy is still in the dumps. Our prayers have not changed our economy. Why? This is because you can't expect to reap where you did not put in intelligent hard work!

Getting your TRV is the same thing. True, a perfect application doesn't guarantee a TRV, but it increases the probability considerably. Night vigils won't considerably increase your chances (except maybe give you psychological confidence), in the same way as our endless prayers haven't fixed Nigeria's economy so far. Having good governance and strategic thinking (irrespective of if we pray or not) considerably increases the likelihood that we will have a better country. Same for visas. You don't have to be religious to have a successful visa application, or to have a good economy.

it's funny how people suddenly become spiritual during the waiting period. We all abuse Nigerian Police and other Government agencies of bribery and corruption, but honestly we are worse than them. Because we need visa, we'll quit those things we feel ain't right, and start marathon fasting and prayer......just to get visa and return to who we were.....
I remember when I first applied, I fasted ehn? Lots of prayers. Had just one prayer point in church, Canada Visa o God! At prayer meetings too nko? Canada visa yi na ni Oluwa...... stopped secular music.....became completely gentle. After two weeks, I was called for medicals......so happy me, felt mehn, I don cheat God. After another 2 weeks I got the two annoying dispatch mails from VFS..... I was denied visa.

of course I knew what my mistake was, and don't get me wrong, I wasn't wayward or worldly, I'm a Christian and I believe in God.
so I tackled what I thought was the problem, prayed, and submitted my application, while I continued my normal life. Fasted only when I felt I should, prayed about visa only when I felt I should, not really out of fear.......true, I was a bit scared at a time.....but eventually I started doing like "CIC go do your worse". And eventually, the visa came.

It is good to trust God for everything, but believe it or not, God will not do for you what He expects you to do yourself. Play your part, and let God play His own, and the result is gonna be PERFECT.