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3d_hunter:
compare it with this:

Ugochukwu Nwaokporo, believed dead by his family, released from police custody on bail after seven years without charge

http://naijanet.com/news/source/2008/may/8/1000.html



"He was tortured and shot in the leg by police in an attempt to force him to confess to armed robbery, he says."

"He treated his own wound with medical supplies brought to him by church groups who visited the police station cells where he was held.

But the first time he cleaned the wound it was with his own urine, his lawyer told the court. "



""They have not brought him to court in seven years to enter a plea. They want to keep him in prison as long as they can," his lawyer Nnaemeka Ejiofor said."


"But the robbery the police say he committed took place two months after Mr Nwaokporo says he was taken into custody."

I read with disgust, the above article.
It is typical of the nigerian police.
We all shouted foul when the british police charged a nigerian for "being violent" onboard.
But here in nigeria, we are faced with devils in black uniform.
Will there be a public outcry for this inhumanity?
No!
The black man is better maltreated by another black man else it becomes racism.
This story makes me sick.

What is the veracity of this claim?

The author should contradict himself and say it not true.

Don't bury a man before he dies.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0502/p04s01-woaf.html

Back on the airport tarmac of Kwara State's main airport at Ilorin, crowds watch the first batch of some 690 cows imported at a cost of about $3,000 per head. Despite the expense, Nigerian officials are optimistic that large-scale investment will bring large-scale returns.

These said cow sure are really expensive!
$3,000 is a lot of money for alone cow.

I'm surprised El Rufai was not mobbed by the senators yesterday.
All empty threats!
The only sin of El Rufai was that he demolished the houses of the mighty.
Nigerian mentality.
Pre-ordinance and first decree are the law of children.
Why should the house of a BIG man be demolished even if
it contradicts existing principles?

From what I have read so far, the senators could not even contradict El Rufai's claims
that he acted based on guideliness.
El Rufai is a model of what an FCT minister should be.
He should be hired.

When the storm is over, you will realize he is not the devil you take him for.
He tried his little bit for the country.

This shouldn't make headline in a national daily.

The summary of the content is;

Nigeria (Lagos) is not as bad as foreigners think it is.
It is a noisy and rowdy city.
YABATECH lacks learning facilities.

What's positive about their observation?
Subtle approbation?

Is the boycott now effective?

The arrogant BA can't be arsed though.

I'm expecting the good news!

Please notify me when the knell that summons him to heaven or to hell sounds.

I'm not a prophet of doom, but I foresee the so-called committe report going to the bin as usual.
We've seen many of such committees come and go.
They always end up as a conduit for siphoning our public funds.

Nigerians have waited so long for results.
If Mr President has anything good to offer, let him give it now.
We are tired of leaders who complain about the shortness of time just because
the made the wrong use of it.

http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=109700

President Umaru Musa Yar'Adua will return to the country today from Germany where he received medical treatment for an allergic reaction, his Special Adviser on Communications, Mr. Olusegun Adeniyi, has said.
Speaking to News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) in Weisbaden, Germany, Adeniyi said the President “is returning in good health and strength, fully prepared to lead efforts to confront critical challenges on his return”.
THISDAY learnt that the presidential jet bringing the President from Germany will arrive Abuja in the evening.
He is expected to be met on arrival by the Vice-President, Dr. Jonathan Goodluck, and other top officials of the government.
"The President intends to give priority attention to measures aimed at addressing the impact of the current global rise in food prices as it affects the ordinary Nigerian,” Adeniyi told NAN, adding: "He will continue to work with stakeholders to contain the incidence of militancy in the Niger Delta region.”
He also said the President is going to pay attention to the power crisis immediately.
"The power sector will remain the core of the President's efforts in the coming weeks as he awaits the report of the Oil and Gas Implementation Committee.
"He is also committed to the diligent implementation of the 2008 budget so that by the end of the current financial year, Nigerians would have begun to notice significant improvements in their material conditions," Adeniyi said.
The President flew out to Germany on April 14 after signing the 2008 Appropriation Bill.
Last Tuesday, Yar’Adua made a surprise call to Chief Gani Fawehinmi to convey his best wishes on the constitutional lawyer’s 70th birthday.
Fawehinmi, who has been ill for sometime, is also recuperating in a UK hospital.
Adeniyi confirmed to the media that Yar'Adua put a call through to Fawehinmi.
THISDAY had reported on Tuesday that the  Minister of Finance, Dr. Shamusddeen Usman, Minister of  Agriculture and Water Resources, Dr. Sayyadi Abba Ruma, and their  Justice counterpart, Chief  Michael Aondoakaa,  had left for  Germany to see the president.
The Minister of Federal Capital Territory (FCT), Dr. Aliyu Modibbo Umar, was also in Germany to see the president.

Mr President cannot be more timely on his arrival.

'He is coming back this evening to fight eratic power supply and food shortage bedevilling nigeria since he jetted out on the 14th'.

These guys make me sick the way they talk!

Does the move corroborate the notion that Obasanjo is vindictive or Yar Adua loves his tribe.

The question that has not been answered is whether this purported devil is guilty of the charges levelled against him or not.

Does it signify that the judiciary dances to the tones of the executive?
How come it took them 9 years to discharge Mustafa is was not guilty all this while?

for source, check Nigerian Tribune emerging news.

Fascist buffoon! He should exercise his authority while it lasts.

The "Banana peel" in action.
Criminals in high places!

My felicitations to the our honorable comrade Oshimole.
He will win in any appeal.
God bless nigeria!

Underground in lagos? The control room will crash people underground.

I think the programme should be allowed some time to succeed.

Transportation system in Lagos is crap.

People should stand if they have to, especially during peak periods.

Have you ever been a passenger on a london bus between 7:30- 9 am, or 3:30- 5pm before?
If you have, you would have noticed the same trend- overcrowded buses,
students throwing bottles, etc.

The trains and tubes follow the same trend. Chaos during peak hours.

I believe every programme has got to overcome its teething problems.

For those calling for the deepening of our democracy by the sack of Yaradua, go to Kenya and feed your sight. The key word is COMMON SENSE as some people have rightly said.

Where would you rather he posted it?
On the aviation section?

A stunt to let him off the hook on bail tomorrow.
Ofcourse he will be granted bail on health grounds.
Charlatans in politics!

Is the pay rise effective yet, or is it one of those empty promises that keep them salivating?

I doff my cap for our dearest Ribadu.
He is a greatest man of our time.
May his great works be sustained.

A toddler who has never lived in Pakistan.
I hope he understands the complexity of what he's plunging himself into
in the name of extending a dynasty.
I grief for him.

Some of these pictures are really funny. The inscription on the wall, this house is not for sale, indicates that there are still buyers.

Just read it on reuters.
Not a bad development.


http://africa.reuters.com/country/NG/news/usnL15877580.html

Fifth Nigerian governor removed after flawed poll
Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:33 GMT

[-] Text [+] ABUJA, Nov 15 (Reuters) - A Nigerian state governor was removed from office on Thursday when an election tribunal ruled an opposition candidate had been wrongly disqualified, the fifth major decision to go against the ruling party since April polls.

European observers judged this year's elections for president, governors and legislators "not credible" because of what they said was widespread vote-rigging and intimidation, mostly by agents of the ruling People's Democratic Party (PDP).

Hundreds of results, from Umaru Yar'Adua's election as president, down to the state house of assembly level, are being contested before election tribunals.

On Thursday, a tribunal in northeastern Adamawa state annulled the election of Murtala Nyako of the PDP as governor, the official News Agency of Nigeria reported.

The opposition Action Congress (AC) said its candidate, Ibrahim Bapatel, had been illegally disqualified from the race after his name appeared on a list of corruption suspects issued by the anti-graft police and endorsed by the government before the elections.

That list was widely denounced at the time as interference in the election process by the PDP government. Since the elections, anti-corruption police have shown no sign of investigating or prosecuting those named on the list.

"The Action Congress has again hailed the judiciary for its continued efforts to ensure the sanctity of elections in Nigeria as well as the survival of the country's democracy," the party said in reaction to the Adamawa ruling.

"We are hopeful that more of the illegalities perpetrated during the last general elections, which have been described as the worst in the nation's history, will come to the fore as other election petition tribunals decide the cases before them."

The AC's presidential candidate, former Vice President Atiku Abubakar, is one of two leading opposition figures contesting Yar'Adua's victory at a tribunal in the capital Abuja, and the AC said Thursday's ruling had encouraged it to continue.

Nigeria returned to civilian rule in 1999 after three decades of almost continuous army dictatorship. Olusegun Obasanjo, a former army head of state from the 1970s, returned to power as a civilian through elections in 1999 and 2003.

The 2007 elections were supposed to be a democratic landmark, the first transition from one civilian president to another through the ballot box since Nigerian independence.

Instead, fraud and violence were so widespread that international and local observers said the results were not credible. Human Rights Watch has called the polls "a farce". (Reporting by Estelle Shirbon; Editing by Michael Winfrey)

This is the view of the rest of the world about nigeria- a country where the second highest earner to the economy is SCAM.

Are we what these people think we are? I believe we are not.

Nigeria vice-president confused and upset
STUART BATHGATE
In Colombo
THE delegation from Abuja, who had thrown their hearts if not always their heads into their attempt to become the first African country to host the Commonwealth Games, generally reacted to their defeat by 47 votes to 24 in a dignified manner. One person who found it hard to accept the democratic vote in favour of Glasgow, however, was the vice-president of Nigeria, Dr Goodluck Jonathan.

"The Commonwealth Games Federation is not kind to Africa," said Jonathan, who had spoken as part of Abuja's presentation immediately before the vote by the Commonwealth Games General Assembly. "There was no reason for us to lose.

"The delegation know why we lost - I don't know. I'm not sure if we would bid again, that is something we would have to think about. I don't know what we did wrong."
General Yakubu Gowon, the country's former dictator, was less self-pitiful in his assessment. "Glasgow won the vote, which was free and fair, and Abuja says well done to Scotland and all the best for 2014," the general said.

"Will we bid again? I think that will be left to the government. We've given our reasons why the Games should come to Africa and it was up to the delegates to decide. If they're not convinced by it, all well and good, but you one day have to complete that circle whether you like it or not.

"Just like FIFA did when they awarded the world cup to South Africa and in Africa for the first time, the Federation have to do that in the very near future. I think we should leave the Commonwealth Games Federation to do their own thing.

"We started with three [candidate cities] in Glasgow - old Scotland; Hamilton - new Scotland in Nova Scotia; and Abuja," he went on. (Hamilton withdrew because of lack of public support.) "Countries must show interest in hosting the Games and it's up to the delegates to cose which one."

The Nigerian delegation had expressed their great confidence in a positive outcome for them, and Gowon was left clutching at straws when asked to explain the result. "I think the taste of the Scottish whisky has attracted them," he said, referring to the hospitality on offer in the Scottish centre in the conference hotel and at the ceilidh in the same venue on Wednesday night. "We haven't changed anything in our minds, but the outcome is totally different.

"But you must accept that is what the vote is and we accept it. We would like to wish Glasgow well, and I'm sure we'll have a very good Games in Glasgow in 2014 - if I'm still alive at 80 I will be there."

Related topic

Glasgow Commonwealth Games 2014
http://sport.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=1589
This article: http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1784832007

Last updated: 10-Nov-07 00:34 GMT

Comments Add your comment1. Scullion, Canada / 2:14am 10 Nov 2007

Some gracious words but although Nigeria has sponsored African football tournaments, its notorious reputation for being one of the most corrupt countries on earth can't be easily swept away.

2. Tricia / 2:26am 10 Nov 2007

Did the current instability in Nigeria have a big effect on the vote?

3. Tatties ower the side, Johannesburg / 3:48am 10 Nov 2007
Dr Goodluck Jonathan should take time to read some Burns. 'Wad some pow'r the giftie gie us, tae see oorselves as ithers see us"

If the Nigerians took a good look at themselves and their country from an external perspective, they would know very well why they did not win.

4. Hugo, Ayrshire / 4:46am 10 Nov 2007
Be as generous to the losers as they were to the winners

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5. Media 1, cape town / 7:04am 10 Nov 2007
The words uttered by Yakubu Gowon in relation to the games and the continent of Africa, are typical of the African mindset.

"but you one day you have to complete that circle whether you like it or not"

Wrong! I would say that the cycle, which sees Africa continue to lag behind must change, prior to the games coming to Africa. Scotland, and Glasgow won because they can offer stability, modern infrastructure and safety for tourists within reasonably acceptable standards. Nigeria cannot offer that, and until she can, she must be excluded from hosting such events

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6. I'm no really here / 7:15am 10 Nov 2007
Oil-rich country with the majority of its people living in abject poverty (it IS Nigeria I'm talking about). A corrupt Government that gives vocal support to Mugabe. If they had won, vast amounts of resources meant to feed it's people would have been spent on hosting sports for a few weeks in 2014.

Underdeveloped countries should be ruled out of hosting these events. Their governments sex-attack their counties dry in order to get a bit of personal glory.

7. Media 1, cape town / 7:32am 10 Nov 2007
#6 I'm no really here

You are absolutely spot on.

Africa is a disgrace in terms of its ability to raise her people and their economies. Corruption, support for mad men like Mugabe, coup after bloody coup, internal party figthting, an inherent addiction to one party rule and dictatorship, military rule, bad governance, economic decline on the back of power hungry leaders hell bent on raping the people of their right to a better quality of life.

It never ends! Bad roads, no public transport systems, not much for a tourist to do, a lack of safety for tourists, not much running water or electricity, and poverty everywhere. Had Nigeria won these games, 95% of her people would not have been involved, nor would they benefit. The only winners would have been the fat cat political powerhouses.

That is not to say that Nigeria cannot overcome her current position. She Can! Nigeria has the potential to be one of the most awesome nations on the continent, indeed the world. But Nigeria needs to make that happen

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8. PeteBrown, England / 8:07am 10 Nov 2007
If you have travelled through Scotland,I mean,its breath-taking compared to Nigeria!I am a Nigerian,but it baffles me why we should, as a nation,should be left in abject poverty while the very very few in power and their families and friends squander the wealth of the whole masses and we still have to guts to bid on Commonwealth games!
When we put our house in order as it should be of a rich oil nation,I bet you Nigeria can host an Olympics! but till then Mr. Vice President with due respect,use your position and influence the direction of our nation in the next 4 years or so and you will be surprised of what Nigeria can attract in terms of not only hosting games but industrial boom!

9. Peter, The fly on Bendy Wendy's wall / 9:25am 10 Nov 2007
My brother in law works for Shell in Nigeria and to get to work he leaves the Shell compound in an armoured 4x4 with an armed driver and a bodyguard. The doors are locked before he leaves the compound and stay locked until he reaches the secure office compound. The 4x4 also has smoked armour glass.

His view of the Government of Nigeria is less than polite as he is well aware of the top skimming that goes on.

10. reddhot, spain / 9:48am 10 Nov 2007
Those who rule Nigeria should concentrate on uplifting the living standards of the general population instead of yearning after hosting of internatioal events.I am a Nigerian and I feel embarrased I think of our so-called oil rich nation.How can you dream of hosting the commonwealth games when majority of your citizens are hungry?.Nigeria should get its act together first and the world will be begging them to host even the olympic games.
I have to mention here that Lagos, the most "developed" city in Nigeria is one of the filthiest cities in the world.We cannot host international events on heaps of festering rubbish

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11. Mikey / 10:19am 10 Nov 2007
I used to be in the Merchant Navy and once paid off in the Bonny river in Nigeria. In leaving Lagos, I was stopped by a customs man who removed my wallet from my pocket and took out all the money that was in it, while staring right into my eyes as if t say, 'just try and stop me.'

Fortunately, I had been warned beforehand and I only had $10 US in the wallet. Since then however, I wouldn't give tuppence to these corrupt b*st*rds!

12. Dougie - Edinburgh / 10:22am 10 Nov 2007
Apart from being extremely corrupt, Nigeria is just not safe enough to host this kind of sport. In some African countries, white people can walk around without bodyguards in daytime. In Nigeria however, they're likely to be robbed, murdered or kidnapped for ransom.

This is a country so corrupt and violent that the price of machetes halves after an election:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1273345,00.html

13. smoothjazz, Dubai, UAE / 10:57am 10 Nov 2007
The kind of stark ignorance exhibited in some comments above just gives one a peak into most peoples' warped logic! It's unbelievable!! What's with all hate talk about Nigeria?

Nigeria lost the bid to host he games so what? Is that the end of the world? Of course not.

However the kind of comments made by 5. Media 1, 6. I'm no really here and I'm sad to say 8. PeteBrown are at once naive and ludicrous.

Media one says ", Nigeria cannot offer that, and until she can, she must be excluded from hosting such events."

Is South Africa safer than Abuja, Nigeria? No! And let's not even talk about South Africa being able to offer safety to tourists. Don't even get me started.

Then 6. I'm no really here said, "A corrupt Government that gives vocal support to Mugabe." Are you kidding me? Did your country not just roll out the red carpet for King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia? You guys are the bane of the world's problems. You refuse to call a spade a spade ESPECIALLY when it does not favour you! When corrupt African rulers were siphoning their peoples' monies into British and European banks, you look(ed) the other way, use the money to develop your country, until such a time as your conscience begins to haunt you!

Talking about corruption, can you tell me why the UK's Serious Fraud Office decided last year to stop investigations into whether BAE gave money to Saudi officials in the 1980s? Even your then PM Tony Blair was actively involved in playing down the corruption scandal.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/11/09/europe/bae.php
And I'm shocked that my Cape Town friend even concurs with you. Last time I checked, Zimbabwe was just next door to you president Thabo Mbeki who has refused to see no wrong. Despite the fact the thousands of hapless Zimbabweans are refugees in South Africa,

8. PeteBrown wrote: "I am a Nigerian,but it baffles me why we should, as a nation,should be left in abject poverty while the very very few in power and their families and friends squander the wealth of the whole masses and we still have to guts to bid on Commonwealth games!"

In our local parlance we say: Ol'boy make you dey think before you talk". FYI, it took the UK hundreds of years to get to where they are today. A lot went down before you showed up - wars were fought, lives were lost. Don't even think for a moment that the liberties you enjoy today have ALWAYS been there. Nigeria is quite young compared to the UK.

Think of the economic impact of an event of this magnitude. The jobs it will create etc. Have you been home lately? Have u been to Abuja? I suggest you do so, then we can discuss further.

While I don't subscribe to corruption and the ways of corrupt government officials, I LOVE MY COUNTRY - just like any one of you love yours. PKeep the vitriol to yourself

14. Dougie - Edinburgh / 11:39am 10 Nov 2007 13.
smoothjazz, Dubai
You may love your country (you're Nigerian, right?) but is it or is it not too dangerous for tourists?

15. Media 1, cape town / 12:01pm 10 Nov 2007 Smoothjazz:

Had you ever read my posts you would note that I am against South Africa hosting the 2010 World Cup. SA may have an infrastructure some 200 times better than Nigeria, SA may have good roads, good western restaurants, good life styles, amazing beaches, wonderful tourist attractions and relative safety on a daily basis. But the fact remains that she is corrupt and unsafe for tourists travelling on their own.

Africa, like much of the middle east, needs to grow up and begin adopting a more appropriate mindset that enables the advancement of the people, as opposed to the opposite.

16. JOHN JIBOGU, RE: COMMONWEALTH GAMES / 12:09pm 10 Nov 2007
It is a great disservice for Africa and Nigeria for loosing the bid to host the next Commonwealth Games .

Its high time the games revolves round the commonwealth regions otherwise we would have simply defeated the purpose of the formation of the organisation.

We all understand the politics involved.

God Bless Nigeria

JOHN JIBOGU.

17. JOHN JIBOGU, RE: COMMONWEALTH GAMES / 12:15pm 10 Nov 2007
A reflection on the above comments can anyone tell me which country is safe, or which country is not corrupt and who keeps all the money taking from the continent of Africa.

So watch what you say.

JJ.

18. phronesis, lagos / 12:19pm 10 Nov 2007
Like every other nation on the face of the earth, Nigeria is not without its peculiar problems. As a Nigerian, I can live with that. What I consider bizarre and unacceptable is the conversion of a simple piece of harmless information as a spring board for such acerbic and morbid remarks about Nigeria. There does exist a plethora of good in Nigeria. And, on the issue of corruption, have you taken a close look at our political landsacape lately? Certainly, you must have observed the positive developments. Nigeria is a happy place to be in and Nigerians generally are happy and warm people. Crime is an international challenge and Nigeria has its fair share. Could is possibly be that perhaps there may be more to this vitriol than the simple fact that the Nigerian delegation accused of being passionate about their country but lacking in organization (by the article) were crestfallen over the loss of their bid?

19. smoothjazz, Dubai, UAE / 12:43pm 10 Nov 2007 15.
Media 1, I think you're missing something here.

First off, equating the Middle East with Africa is a misnomer.

All I am saying is that Africa needs these kinds of events to inject the much needed growth necessary for it to become self-sustaining, like Scotland. We don't need aid we need trade.

Please don't get me wrong. I don't have any qualms about Scotland winning the right to host the Games. But people should be more aware of the whys, hows and wheretofores of Nigeria and indeed Africa, and consequently make informed statements.

Rome was not built in a day. So was Scotland, And so is Nigeria and South Africa. But we need events like these to get there.

14. Dougie - Edinburgh, Nigeria is safe for tourists. Just as you wouldn't be careless in the UK you ought not be careless anywhere else. Criminal activity is a global phenomenon. Your argument is fundametally flawed. Just because my cousin was mugged on the streets of London does not mean that the whole of the UK is dangerous for tourists! That's pure hasty generalisation. If that were the case I'm not so sure Scotland would have won the rights to host the games given it's record in hooliganism as can be seen in the link below.

http://www.expatica.com/actual/article.asp?subchannel_id=,

20. Brick V. Tamland II, Riding a furry tractor. / 1:34pm 10 Nov 2007 #16 John Jibogu.

Can you tell us why you think that only 24 out of 71 Commonwealth countries voted for Nigeria?

For the record I firmly believe that the time for the African continent to regularly host global games is long overdue. S.A. has a head start on the rest of the continent, why is that?

21. Brick V. Tamland II, Riding a furry tractor. / 1:39pm 10 Nov 2007
#19 Smoothjazz, interesting if erroneous article from Expatnews via El Pais.

"But Barcelona's chief of police told Rangers that, despite a couple of minor incidents, he was satisfied with the conduct of the Glasgow club's supporters."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/

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22. Dougie - Edinburgh / 1:50pm 10 Nov 2007 17.
JOHN JIBOGU
From a country where defrauding foreigners is the second biggest exchange earner after the (overwhelmingly Western run) oil industry, it’s quite some cheek for a Nigerian to suggest the rest of the world is sucking money out of Africa.

23. Dougie - Edinburgh / 1:53pm 10 Nov 2007
18. phronesis, lagos

“Crime is an international challenge and Nigeria has its fair share”? I think as the most corrupt country in the world
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4497915.stm
that’s something of an understatement.

For a single country to be responsible for most of the entire world’s cheque fraud, it’s fair to say Nigeria has a lot more than its fair share!
http://www.quatloos.com/usab419.pdf

24. Dougie - Edinburgh / 1:53pm 10 Nov 2007
19. smoothjazz, Dubai

It's just untrue that Nigeria is safe for tourists. You may or may not consider it safe for Nigerians but as for white people, nowhere is safe other than the well-guarded oil company compounds. Even entering through an airport I can expect to be robbed by immigration officials or at least held up for hours as a way of eliciting a bribe.

Whenever oil industry workers are out of the compound, they move with armed guards in armoured vehicles. Comparing that to low level violence between football supporters in Scotland is pretty silly.

It's ironic that you mention that your cousin got robbed in London because in London, since most robberies are perpetrated by Africans or people of African descent (also true of the USA).

London: 59% of knife robberies by blacks
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article153

25. truthsleuth, South of the Border / 1:54pm 10 Nov 2007
#9. Peter,

Is the armoured car to protect from other speeding motorists

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26. truthsleuth, South of the Border / 1:56pm 10 Nov 2007
One of the reasons for Nigerias 'poverty' is a rising population it cannot support.

However after 2014 the population of Nigeria will fall due to the number of athletes applying for asylum in Scotland.

27. Maurice the Dolphin, Sick of the political nitwits. / 1:59pm 10 Nov 2007
Note that the only congratulatory postings are by those people of Nigerian nationality who seem to have their heads screwed on the right way.

On the other hand the story boards seem to be full of the Scottish political nitwits who have turned news of a sporting event into the usual political pish

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28. smoothjazz, Dubai, UAE / 2:51pm 10 Nov 2007

24. Dougie - Edinburgh, I know your ilk. I will oblige you a response just this once.

You said: "It's just untrue that Nigeria is safe for tourists. You may or may not consider it safe for Nigerians but as for white people, nowhere is safe other than the well-guarded oil company compounds. Even entering through an airport I can expect to be robbed by immigration officials or at least held up for hours as a way of eliciting a bribe."

I reply: Both the giver and the taker of a bribe are criminals. Is that hard to see? Nigerian as a people do not condone bribery.

You said: "Whenever oil industry workers are out of the compound, they move with armed guards in armoured vehicles. Comparing that to low level violence between football supporters in Scotland is pretty silly. "

I reply: What is sillier than quantifying or rationalising crime? A crime is a crime is crime. Where it happens is irrelevant.

It's ironic that you mention that your cousin got robbed in London because in London, since most robberies are perpetrated by Africans or people of African descent (also true of the USA).
London: 59% of knife robberies by blacks

I reply: I am going to restrain myself and refuse to go that low with you - and you had better be grateful for that. I will not be dragged into an argument with a racist.

Finally, if you don't have any decent, rational argument to make please keep stay away from that keyboard.

You said to JJ on POST 22
"From a country where defrauding foreigners is the second biggest exchange earner after the (overwhelmingly Western run) oil industry, it’s quite some cheek for a Nigerian to suggest the rest of the world is sucking money out of Africa."

My response: You are either ignorant or being mischievous or both!

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30. Jock Tamson, Scotland, Caledonia, Alba / 6:28pm 10 Nov 2007
Let's get real here. Been to Nigeria and been to Glasgow. If anywhere requires the regeneration it is Nigeria.

Civic corruption, bad housing and crime? Pot and kettle.

Gulf between the rich and poor ditto. Beggars in the streets? Ditto. Oil money, ditto. Imperial dog, ditto.

The list is endless and Nigeria is also a dear green place.

31. Media 1, cape town / 7:40pm 10 Nov 2007 Smoothjazz

Youre right, Africa does need big events. But she can't just be given them due to her position. If that was to happen, then nations who were more successful and deserving would need to suffer. That cannot happen, not ever.

What I am saying, is that Africa can have the games, but she needs to earn them. And she can if she gets her act together.

32. oder, Scotland / 8:11pm 10 Nov 2007 30. Jock Tamson, Scotland, Caledonia, Alba

So whats the problem? one of Africa`s richest states and the highest population in Africa! who but Africa can sort Africa? Africa will get their turn when they are ready, and can instill the confidence that is needed to collect the votes! in the meantine I look
forward to see Nigerian sportsmen/women in the games as I did when watching them play inthe world cup a few years back.

33. Danielrober2, In London for work / 9:43pm 10 Nov 2007 # 28 smoothjazz, Dubai, UAE

A competition is not worth winning unless your competing with a great competitor. Nigeria have the largest population in Africa, the third largest film industry in the world, huge resources and huge challenges. I have no doubt that with the exception of Egypt, Nigeria will be the economic driver of Africa.

Just keep trying, go for the Commonwealth games in 2018 and why not try the Olympic games as well. Competition, is healthy.

Good luck Nigeria 2018

34. Jock Tamson, Scotland, Caledonia, Alba / 10:21pm 10 Nov 2007 32, oder.
What do you mean by "So what's the problem?"?

35. Jock Tamson, Scotland, Caledonia, Alba / 10:27pm 10 Nov 2007 32, oder.
Let's face it, Glasgow has been telling us how much it needs the regeneration dosh (like we've never heard that one before). Then it tells the Commonwealth what a great place it is (like we've never heard that one before).

Glasgow is second to none with the begging bowl - which is unique as the place is second to all in everything else.

36. Abid, Boston, Massachusetts / 11:39pm 10 Nov 2007
Hi. I am Nigerian (from Lagos) and I find Smoothjazz's comments representative of Nigerian blather as a whole. No substance and no insight. The stark fact is that the country is dirt-poor, corrupt, incompetent, and backward, and the problem is a lack of insight--again, symptomatic of the Nigerian mentality. Not only was the bid one of the shabbiest I've come across, it was premised on "affirmative action", if you will. It was not premised on being competitive, or providing any evidence for Abuja's superiority. Frankly, there was no evidence to show. Its ironic that my friend smoothjazz is writing from the UAE, where he is (my educated guess) probably an economic emigre. There's a reason for that.

37. oder, Scotland / 12:46am 11 Nov 2007 30. Jock Tamson,
you said

Let's get real here. Been to Nigeria and been to Glasgow. If anywhere requires the regeneration it is Nigeria.

I said

So what's the problem? ( they were not awarded the games.)



35. Jock Tamson,

They are not ready for it, thats what the vote shows
regeneration is not in itself a acceptable reason to be awarded the games! Nigeria has far more wealth that Scotland! and I doubt that Glasgow was awarded it becase it needs regeneration! if it were that simple we can keep the games in Africa permanently.
Maybe the voting countries should be allowed to state their reasons why Glasgow was chosen so that future candidate cities are aware of the requirements to stage the games.

38. GalacticCannibal, Murrieta, CA , vote Hillary Clinton for Pres. US / 4:25am 11 Nov 2007
The Commonwealth Games are not World Class,
But the corrupt OLYMPIC Games are world class.

And Scots whisky is a legal destructive drug that causes tens thousands of premature deaths and irreversible harm to its addicted users.

GC

39. jim jones, guyana / 11:14am 11 Nov 2007
3 times in 44 years for a nation of 6 million within the united kingdom that will have hosted 4 times in 44 years and twice within the new millenium for hosting in the UK. Nigeria rejected Twice in that 44 year time period.
Glasgow had a better communicated bid doesnt mean the bid was better facilities wise but a bid none the less has to be communicated. The number tells the story communication breeds confidence and clearly African Nations voted against hosting in Nigeria.
Lack of Communication brought down the Halifax bid with the local public.

Abuja should do what Scotland did after they lost the Euro 2008 . Move onto better things like the 2014 youth olympics bid. Win that and they have something way more valued then the Commonwealth games which some twit from Guernsey can actually say how great it is that his athletes will get to stay in a sespool like Great Britian LOL
Gee Guernsey is that one of those tax shelter islands or is that jersey. Talk about corruption in Nigeria in your own back yards with places like that.

I love that glasgow gets the games and will indeed choke on them because history has shown them to be a burden more then a prize.

40. wattie>x 1 / 2:34pm 11 Nov 2007 jim jones?

Black or white face, with a good auld British name?

Have a couple off haufs and get your heid doon!

41. oder, scotland / 7:03pm 11 Nov 2007 39. jim jones, guyana


"I love that glasgow gets the games and will indeed choke on them because history has shown them to be a burden more then a prize."

Then Glasgows done them a favour eh! just think of all that extra cash the generals will have to spend on their people! what nice people they have in Glasgow unlike you, you seem to have a nasty streak about you

42. oder, scotland / 7:32pm 11 Nov 2007 jim jones, guyana

Why do you use the name of the cult leader jim jones who organised the mass suicide in Jonestown
in 1978? you should look in your on backyard before you start on Britain being a sespool!

43. jim jones, guyana / 10:16pm 11 Nov 2007 well the stabbing of fenians i three paces it the event i look forward too with the Stolenwealth games.
jim jones is my alias inspired to the man with the poisoned fruit drink .

drink up glasgow

http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1784832007

babasin:
@uchetobi,
Thanks. that leaves only 12yrs.

between: I will be damned if thats your real picture

I thought BTW means "by the way" and not BETWEEN.

Mamajama:
Its all about integrity. if he did serve or completed his NYSE assignment, he should present the certificate ASAP. or he should be remove with immediate effect. we can not continue to disobey the law and talk of transparency.

Its all about credibility. How can we trust this guy to performed at the interest of the nation if his[b] NYSE [/b] service was a fraud or sabotage?

Bro where did you serve?
You kept on writing NYSE.
Is it a new acronym?

"I have here with me, the President of the United Kingdom of England"- Bush

That is how nigerians are perceived.

Below is a thread from london mad house.

http://forums.gumtree.com/about119495.html&highlight=nigerians

oblivious




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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:28 pm    Post subject: Now, I'm not racist but,   

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, I wish that Nigerians would stop sending me messages on eBay asking if i can post my expensive electrical items to their:
(delete as appropriate)

neighbours/cousins/mums/daughters/boyfriends/siters/uncles/friends/son,

who is:

riddled with disease/studying/depressed/homesick/incarcerated in Nigeria or surrounding areas!

WOULD YOU EVER Bleep OFF AND STOP TRYING TO SCAM ME LIKE IM SOME SORT OF Arrow WITH JUST HALF A BRAIN CELL WHO IS ACTUALLY GONNA FALL FOR IT!

Jeeeeez 

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SpellKaster




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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Now, I'm not racist but,   

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oblivious wrote:
, I wish that Nigerians would stop sending me messages on eBay asking if i can post my expensive electrical items to their:

(delete as appropriate)

neighbours/cousins/mums/daughters/boyfriends/siters/uncles/friends/son,

who is:

riddled with disease/studying/depressed/homesick/incarcerated in Nigeria or surrounding areas!

WOULD YOU EVER Bleep OFF AND STOP TRYING TO SCAM ME LIKE IM SOME SORT OF Arrow WITH JUST HALF A BRAIN CELL WHO IS ACTUALLY GONNA FALL FOR IT! 

Jeeeeez 


I get those all the time. You should google 'Scam Baiting' there's some funny stuff in response to those.

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oblivious




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I mean, the fact that you have 0 transactions and only signed up to eBay that very day kind of gives it away 

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oblivious




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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Now, I'm not racist but,   

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SpellKaster wrote:
oblivious wrote:
, I wish that Nigerians would stop sending me messages on eBay asking if i can post my expensive electrical items to their:

(delete as appropriate)

neighbours/cousins/mums/daughters/boyfriends/siters/uncles/friends/son,

who is:

riddled with disease/studying/depressed/homesick/incarcerated in Nigeria or surrounding areas!

WOULD YOU EVER Bleep OFF AND STOP TRYING TO SCAM ME LIKE IM SOME SORT OF Arrow WITH JUST HALF A BRAIN CELL WHO IS ACTUALLY GONNA FALL FOR IT! 

Jeeeeez 


I get those all the time. You should google 'Scam Baiting' there's some funny stuff in response to those.


Will do SpellKaster I seem to have waaaaaaay too much tim eon my hands!

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SpellKaster




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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Now, I'm not racist but,   

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oblivious wrote:
SpellKaster wrote:
oblivious wrote:
, I wish that Nigerians would stop sending me messages on eBay asking if i can post my expensive electrical items to their:

(delete as appropriate)

neighbours/cousins/mums/daughters/boyfriends/siters/uncles/friends/son,

who is:

riddled with disease/studying/depressed/homesick/incarcerated in Nigeria or surrounding areas!

WOULD YOU EVER Bleep OFF AND STOP TRYING TO SCAM ME LIKE IM SOME SORT OF Arrow WITH JUST HALF A BRAIN CELL WHO IS ACTUALLY GONNA FALL FOR IT! 

Jeeeeez 


I get those all the time. You should google 'Scam Baiting' there's some funny stuff in response to those.


Will do SpellKaster I seem to have waaaaaaay too much tim eon my hands!


That will kill a few hours that will.

Unless you want to contribute to the 'Show us your boobs' thread 

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oblivious




Joined: 28 Sep 2007
Posts: 130
Location: 4th house on the right
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Now, I'm not racist but,   

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SpellKaster wrote:
oblivious wrote:
SpellKaster wrote:
oblivious wrote:
, I wish that Nigerians would stop sending me messages on eBay asking if i can post my expensive electrical items to their:

(delete as appropriate)

neighbours/cousins/mums/daughters/boyfriends/siters/uncles/friends/son,

who is:

riddled with disease/studying/depressed/homesick/incarcerated in Nigeria or surrounding areas!

WOULD YOU EVER Bleep OFF AND STOP TRYING TO SCAM ME LIKE IM SOME SORT OF Arrow WITH JUST HALF A BRAIN CELL WHO IS ACTUALLY GONNA FALL FOR IT! 

Jeeeeez 


I get those all the time. You should google 'Scam Baiting' there's some funny stuff in response to those.


Will do SpellKaster I seem to have waaaaaaay too much tim eon my hands!


That will kill a few hours that will.

Unless you want to contribute to the 'Show us your boobs' thread 


Well i could i guess, but they're far too huge to possibly both fit in one picture!   

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SpellKaster




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Posts: 629

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Now, I'm not racist but,   

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oblivious wrote:
SpellKaster wrote:
oblivious wrote:
SpellKaster wrote:
oblivious wrote:
, I wish that Nigerians would stop sending me messages on eBay asking if i can post my expensive electrical items to their:

(delete as appropriate)

neighbours/cousins/mums/daughters/boyfriends/siters/uncles/friends/son,

who is:

riddled with disease/studying/depressed/homesick/incarcerated in Nigeria or surrounding areas!

WOULD YOU EVER Bleep OFF AND STOP TRYING TO SCAM ME LIKE IM SOME SORT OF Arrow WITH JUST HALF A BRAIN CELL WHO IS ACTUALLY GONNA FALL FOR IT! 

Jeeeeez 


I get those all the time. You should google 'Scam Baiting' there's some funny stuff in response to those.


Will do SpellKaster I seem to have waaaaaaay too much tim eon my hands!


That will kill a few hours that will.

Unless you want to contribute to the 'Show us your boobs' thread 


Well i could i guess, but they're far too huge to possibly both fit in one picture!   


Well, if you e-mail me two pictures, i'll have a look and see if i can stick them together 

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oblivious




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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 1:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Now, I'm not racist but,   

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SpellKaster wrote:
oblivious wrote:
SpellKaster wrote:
oblivious wrote:
SpellKaster wrote:
oblivious wrote:
, I wish that Nigerians would stop sending me messages on eBay asking if i can post my expensive electrical items to their:

(delete as appropriate)

neighbours/cousins/mums/daughters/boyfriends/siters/uncles/friends/son,

who is:

riddled with disease/studying/depressed/homesick/incarcerated in Nigeria or surrounding areas!

WOULD YOU EVER Bleep OFF AND STOP TRYING TO SCAM ME LIKE IM SOME SORT OF Arrow WITH JUST HALF A BRAIN CELL WHO IS ACTUALLY GONNA FALL FOR IT! 

Jeeeeez 


I get those all the time. You should google 'Scam Baiting' there's some funny stuff in response to those.


Will do SpellKaster I seem to have waaaaaaay too much tim eon my hands!


That will kill a few hours that will.

Unless you want to contribute to the 'Show us your boobs' thread 


Well i could i guess, but they're far too huge to possibly both fit in one picture!   


Well, if you e-mail me two pictures, i'll have a look and see if i can stick them together 


   

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SpellKaster




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Posts: 629

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Now, I'm not racist but,   

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oblivious wrote:
SpellKaster wrote:
oblivious wrote:
SpellKaster wrote:
oblivious wrote:
SpellKaster wrote:
oblivious wrote:
, I wish that Nigerians would stop sending me messages on eBay asking if i can post my expensive electrical items to their:

(delete as appropriate)

neighbours/cousins/mums/daughters/boyfriends/siters/uncles/friends/son,

who is:

riddled with disease/studying/depressed/homesick/incarcerated in Nigeria or surrounding areas!

WOULD YOU EVER Bleep OFF AND STOP TRYING TO SCAM ME LIKE IM SOME SORT OF Arrow WITH JUST HALF A BRAIN CELL WHO IS ACTUALLY GONNA FALL FOR IT! 

Jeeeeez 


I get those all the time. You should google 'Scam Baiting' there's some funny stuff in response to those.


Will do SpellKaster I seem to have waaaaaaay too much tim eon my hands!


That will kill a few hours that will.

Unless you want to contribute to the 'Show us your boobs' thread 


Well i could i guess, but they're far too huge to possibly both fit in one picture!   


Well, if you e-mail me two pictures, i'll have a look and see if i can stick them together 


   


If you've got the time, i've got the inclination 

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poopiekat




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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:00 pm    Post subject:   

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Oblivious sez: asking if i can post my expensive electrical items

Anyone with half a brain knows they don't have electricity in Nigeria!!

How naive can you be??
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satanic_angel




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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:02 pm    Post subject:   

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poopiekat wrote:
Oblivious sez: asking if i can post my expensive electrical items

Anyone with half a brain knows they don't have electricity in Nigeria!!

How naive can you be??


Naive? Wouldn't she have to fall for the scam to be called that?!

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oblivious




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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Now, I'm not racist but,   

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SpellKaster wrote:
oblivious wrote:
SpellKaster wrote:
oblivious wrote:
SpellKaster wrote:
oblivious wrote:
SpellKaster wrote:
oblivious wrote:
, I wish that Nigerians would stop sending me messages on eBay asking if i can post my expensive electrical items to their:

(delete as appropriate)

neighbours/cousins/mums/daughters/boyfriends/siters/uncles/friends/son,

who is:

riddled with disease/studying/depressed/homesick/incarcerated in Nigeria or surrounding areas!

WOULD YOU EVER Bleep OFF AND STOP TRYING TO SCAM ME LIKE IM SOME SORT OF Arrow WITH JUST HALF A BRAIN CELL WHO IS ACTUALLY GONNA FALL FOR IT! 

Jeeeeez 


I get those all the time. You should google 'Scam Baiting' there's some funny stuff in response to those.


Will do SpellKaster I seem to have waaaaaaay too much tim eon my hands!


That will kill a few hours that will.

Unless you want to contribute to the 'Show us your boobs' thread 


Well i could i guess, but they're far too huge to possibly both fit in one picture!   


Well, if you e-mail me two pictures, i'll have a look and see if i can stick them together 


   


If you've got the time, i've got the inclination 


It seems we both have far too much time on our hands!

I could email you random bits of my body that you can put together piece by piece,   

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SpellKaster




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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Now, I'm not racist but,   

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oblivious wrote:
SpellKaster wrote:
oblivious wrote:
SpellKaster wrote:
oblivious wrote:
SpellKaster wrote:
oblivious wrote:
SpellKaster wrote:
oblivious wrote:
, I wish that Nigerians would stop sending me messages on eBay asking if i can post my expensive electrical items to their:

(delete as appropriate)

neighbours/cousins/mums/daughters/boyfriends/siters/uncles/friends/son,

who is:

riddled with disease/studying/depressed/homesick/incarcerated in Nigeria or surrounding areas!

WOULD YOU EVER Bleep OFF AND STOP TRYING TO SCAM ME LIKE IM SOME SORT OF Arrow WITH JUST HALF A BRAIN CELL WHO IS ACTUALLY GONNA FALL FOR IT! 

Jeeeeez 


I get those all the time. You should google 'Scam Baiting' there's some funny stuff in response to those.


Will do SpellKaster I seem to have waaaaaaay too much tim eon my hands!


That will kill a few hours that will.

Unless you want to contribute to the 'Show us your boobs' thread 


Well i could i guess, but they're far too huge to possibly both fit in one picture!   


Well, if you e-mail me two pictures, i'll have a look and see if i can stick them together 


   


If you've got the time, i've got the inclination 


It seems we both have far too much time on our hands!

I could email you random bits of my body that you can put together piece by piece,   


That sounds like a great idea!

The less clothes the better too!

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SpellKaster




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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:59 am    Post subject:   

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*checks mailbox*

*Empty*



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mentatq



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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:36 am    Post subject:   

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Oddly enough, we get a lot of those in Canada. Claim they are in USA want to ship item to their kid attending school in England. Do you have a lot of Nigerian exchange students there? Are their majors scamming and spamming?

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imlooking




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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:41 am    Post subject:   

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i track the buggers down and send loads of crap to them,used to get shit from yahoo addresses took three weeks but by the time i finished they were having a nervous breakdown.

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donley



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Location: south western Ontario
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:59 pm    Post subject: racist   

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What fascinates me is, they never seem to give up. Most of them have bought English language letters that are riddled with mistakes, and even then, they manage to take in people that you would normally think knew better. Recently, a controller in an American city was caught with his hand in the city money jar. It isn't that they are so intelligent, it is because they realise there will always be one more greedy fish to take the bait. Any dumb bastard who takes the bait deserves to be caught.

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