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Morenikeji090:
No be Akoko edo na Akoko mumu. Make uba carry uba wahala go. Yoruba don’t claim and if Yoruba claim person na Akoko edo people go fight for themselves within edo state so dat will make support come frm Yoruba leaders if Akoko edo say they are not Yoruba we won’t give a Bleep about them

I hope so

Morenikeji090:
Yoruba don’t claim or force to be loved.. we are courageous e.t.c and our Yoruba heritage is well recognized in this world. So we are too big to force someone to love us coz our ancestors and heritage speak a lot of great history’s about us.

But when it is mentioned that Akoko-edo is not Yoruba ,Yoruba proponents fight tool and nail to claim they are Yorubas

easzypeaszy:
Please Igalas do not speak clear Yoruba..dey don't even understand it except dose who grew up wer dey speak Yoruba.
Only tribe that speaks Yoruba clearly in Kogi are the Okuns or Kabba as generally called.
Except OP referring to another Igalas but Kogi Igalas is out of dis yeye trend.

Igala speak a yoruboid language, that's what I mean,any one who understands Yoruba will know that igala language is yoruboid,unlike others such as Akoko-edo, ogori which aren't yoruboid yet Yorubas claim them,that's my point

kedeojo:
most of us in akoko edo didn't only bear Yoruba names but can speak it. Only mostly the younger one who can not speak but can understand many, when Yoruba person speaks. Till today all the orthodox churches like Anglican interpret in Yoruba language in our local government. We also share some aspect of Yoruba, Amala is very common, owambe also, and then education cos many of our parents benefitted from Awolowo's free education, during our parties we play mostly Yoruba songs and the like of Ayefele, sunny ade, shina peter and others Yoruba highlife musicians have performed in my town and other town too.

So what is your claim?
Are you saying Akoko-edo are Yorubas?

Sirianese:
That's not true. Everyone knows the Akoko Edo people only bear those names because of intermarriage and trade, in fact huge swathes of Yoruba land were under Benin rule for a long time e.g. on Ikere Ekiti where the Ogoga who used to be the resident tax administrator for Benin kingdom now claiming to be a royal king...the exact se situation with so-called Oba of Lagos

You are knowledgeable, but check the several threads on Nairaland, were Akoko-edo are forcefully labelled Yoruba by less knowledgeable Yorubas despite several explanations.

Sirianese:
This is just a lot of nonsense

Yoruba do not 'claim' Akoko Edo, outside the fact that they bear Yoruba names they don't actually speak the language or share any part of the culture, but when people hear the names, the Yoruba origin question inevitably comes up. Itshekiri and Olukumi people trace their origins to Yoruba land themselves, they self-identify. Igala people do not

There's been a lot of claim on Akoko-edo by Yorubas here on nairaland

The Yorubas claim olukumi in faraway delta,they claim itsekiri,they claim the royalty of Benin.They forcefully try to claim Akoko-edo and Ogori.

Except the itsekiri and the olukumi who have verifiable Yoruba links ,the others have little or no link with the Yoruba originally except for recent yoruba naming convention of the Akoko-edo and Ogori.

But the problem is this,

Why do the Yorubas fail to claim an obvious group who speak a clear yoruboid language- IGALA.

I have never heard any statement from prominent Yoruba proponents incorporating the igala into Yoruba identity.

The igala in my opinion are strongly related to the okun Yoruba and oworo.

The igala claim a borno/ jukun origin,with relations with the kanuri.

There are claims by some Yoruba historians that the Yoruba are related to the kanuri also.

More research needs to be done on the igala Yoruba relationship.

I believe the igala will expose the false claims that Yorubas are from ile-ife.

It will expose the fallacy that the ogori, Akoko Edo and Benin royalty are from Yoruba.

The above groups do not speak any yoruboid dialect,but are forcefully labelled Yoruba by Yoruba proponents.

yet a group that speaks clear yoruboid language( the IGALA) is never labelled as Yoruba is it just because they don't bare common modern Yoruba names?

How does it work?

Bchop:
It is so funny and unfair to say Igala is a yoruboid language, what if it's the other way round. What if Yoruba is a Igaloid language,,,,make una think....

The term yoruboid language as been standardized by scholars,however my point is there is an igala Yoruba connection which is not talked about enough

There's been a gradual reduction in Fulani menace since BUHARI left.

Isn't it time to crush the Fulani once and for all.

Is the Yoruba government going to allow them go Scot free .

They might revive with another Fulani/core northern President.

The Fulani agenda was really something, God thwarted their wicked plans to take over the country .

It's time to totally stop the Fulani Now

Truly,I was really surprised by the Yoruba

The IGALA are a strong proof against the IFE narrative, the igala claim jukun or far northern origin yet they speak yoruboid.

There is no concrete narrative of yoruboid migration to the igala area,this disproves IFE migration theory.

The yoruboid groups came from the igala area,there might have been a second migration from IFE, but it was not the original source of the yoruboid groups as falsely claimed.

The error in Nigeria of attributing the majority tribes as the source of other tribes is flawed n wrong

People are insulting me but failing to understand the underlying truth

Kukutente23:
Why don't you do the research and show me

Have done it,but I didn't curate it,so I can't show it

jimetagambo:
Who would have thought psychiatrist hospitals patient had access to Nairaland, let alone creating senseless topics on Nairaland. This one is becomrich aka aare Musiwa's younger brother.

It's about truth and knowledge sir

ElSudani:
You are sick. Seek help before it is too late.

It's not about condemnation.
It's about knowledge n truth

Bendeco2020:
Language similarites cannot only make two tribes have same origin.

What about their apperance and behavior?

Igalas don't feel insecure

The thing is there is somewhat a strong connection of the IGALA with the Yoruba but it's totally ignore by Yoruba proponents,yet they are so concerned with tribes that have no Yoruba connection

Kukutente23:
When and how was ife an economic power?

Migration takes place towards places with better economic strength and not the other way round. If you say there was no emigration from ife and ife was an economic power, then you have to show Migration towards ife

Go n research you'll see

Bendeco2020:
Chill, you don't know Igala well

Some part of Igala trace their origin to Anambra North.

Ibaji local government especially Idoko side are connected to Anambra North. They speak and answer igbo names. Are those ones yoruboid too?

I don't too know about other parts

The majority speak a yoruboid language

Kukutente23:
Lol. Ife was an economic power according to you and that is not fake

But migration from ife according to others is fake

How does migration correlate with ECONOMIC power

lamentor78:
See somebody that dem born some twenty years ago want to tell us history wey him forefathers no knom

History is about research and books,not about age,no body born from 1960 upward can give a direct narration of any ethnic history in Nigeria

The IGALA, a group that speaks a clear undisputed yoruboid language, where there are clear Yoruboid phrases used.

The IGALA are cut from connection with the nearest Yoruba area,the okun area by the river Niger.

How come this group speak a clear Yoruba language do not claim any ancestry at all from IFE, yet the Yoruba say all yoruboid groups are from IFE.

There is even no tale or legend of Yoruba migration to igalaland.

Narratives of IGALA migration to Yorubaland are denied by the Yoruba.

Even the Yoruba,eg the ooni of ife has never attributed igala to be from IFE, he hardly talks about any narrative of the igala Yoruba relationship.

The igala group are very far from Yoruba land yet retain Yoruba facial marking styles,cultural similarities and language, likewise the olukumi and itsheriki.

Yet the Yorubas do not claim the IGALA as being part of them.

But the Yorubas are quick to appropriate yorubaness to groups that do not speak any form of Yoruba dialect or yoruboid language and do not have any yoruboid culture or facial marks like the Akoko-edo and ogori etc and Benin.

Again why are the Yoruba silent on IGALALAND

Raf4:
You need to give your mental health a very urgent attention!

My write-up is evident truth

UncleAyo:
SMH

Please, try and treat malaria. Our prayers (from Yorubaland) are with you.

It's not about insult and mockery,it is evident truth

The royal house of many Yoruba Kingdoms pledged allegiance to IFE in its hey day( IFE was an economic power at some point in history),and IFE sort of legitimised their rule,the ruling houses used the false narrative of an ife-ododuwa narrative to enforce their grip on power.

This gave rise to legends and false tales of IFE immigration.

Many researchers have proven these tales to be false

Any were you see a historical narrative of people migrating from IFE, just know that such a narrative is false and fake.no body migrated away from IFE.

The singular proof is the IGALA, they speak a yoruboid language but there is never a narrative that they came from IFE, why is the IFE migration narrative forced on minority tribes?

Even the oromiyan story is false and fake.

There's concrete proof n evidence of this

Dsimmer:
Ode, I simply stated the fact!

Esan have got Yoruba ancestry which is proven. That's a fact! Sink that into your dumb brain. Now Imagine Akoko, Usen, Uhe etc. It's the audacity of your dumb brain! Not your first time saying gibberish. You dey craze?

On the gala, they're probably yoruba on the East Central side. One thing is Ife have got the detailed information on Olodumare (the supreme Orisha/Source) which include all his attributes, knowledge and creativity thus you would see Yoruba having Obatala, Oduduwa, Sango, Oya, Ogun, Osun, Olokun etc which are all attributes and creativity of Olodumare 📌, even as they're also Yoruba ancestors however some who came out of Ife can only recollect a few attribute..

Yoruba mumu,this is strong evidence

Dsimmer:
You don't know Esan have got Yoruba ancestry? Let alone Akoko?


You dey mad and you've got no one to tell you.

No one has Yoruba ancestry except Yoruba people, why don't you tell igala that speaks 60% Yoruba that they are Yoruba,it's Benin and others you Yorubas are always dragging

Dsimmer:
Ode, It's either you're mad or dumb to not have known I prove my fact with scientific proof. As I said, the Yoruba in Bini know themselves, it's useless imposters who should get out.

Which scientific proof did you bring?
Yes,Yoruba in Benin know themselves ,so Akoko-edo know themselves that they aren't Yoruba

Dsimmer:
Egin, Egun, Ebade, Akoko, Ugbo, Ife/Afe etc are all Yoruba names!

It's like your brain keep forgetting the fact that I used scientific proof? You dey craze or you're dumb?

As I said, the Yoruba in Bini know themselves. It's the useless imposters who should get out!

See,Yoruba people are proving unintelligent these days oo,you can't think beyond your orientation.

Egune or whatever is different from egin,ebade can be different from the Yoruba ebade,what is Ame' memi the name of the commenter father in Yoruba.

People know their history, you can't determine their history for them.

Akoko-edo is not and will never be yoruba

Dsimmer:
Ode, you don't know the people of Ondo are called Egin? Your Ode self should also know I used scientific proof already. As I said, Yoruba in Bini know themselves. It's the useless imposters who should get out.

Egin is different from egune