Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 1:53pm On May 02 |
Look at how ETI and ACCESS stated their Q1. UBA needs no correction as they are not entangled with any Tier 1 USD equity instrument. I have not looked at WEMA, but the last I recall they have no dollar equity instrument patch. aj8: Good Saturday morning BabsO2, Wema is probably the only Bank spelling it out in their weighted average. You can do the maths for UBA and ETI and kindly reflect it here if it differs. I did the maths, but willing to take corrections if they differ. At least we are stimulating discussions to improve our stock picks. Iron sharpenth iron. ETI Q1Profit after tax 197,528Attributable to: Ordinary shareholders 128,336 Other equity instrument holder 5,066 Non-controlling interests 64,125 ACCESS Q1Profit attributable to: Equity holders of the parent entity 200,526Non-controlling interest 38f 16,011 Profit for the period 216,537Access lumped up what ordinary shareholders are entitled to with what Tier 1 equity instrument holders are entitled to together and labeled it as Equity holders of parent entity. This will cause erroneous overstatement of EPS of shareholders. The Tier 1 equity bond ($500m) holders are intitled to an interest payment of 9.125% per annum. A more accurate EPS estimate should deduct 500*1450*0.09125/4 = NGN 16,539m from the Q1 profit before computing a more accurate earnings per of (200526-16539)/53317.838433 = NGN 3.45 For your PE of 5 common sense estimate Access Valuation becomes. 3.45*4*5=69. Because of too much uncertainty on the health of their acquisitions don't think they deserve the same PE as UBA. So corrected EPS for Shareholders for ACCESS Q1 = N3.45 Your PE of 5 estimate for Access should value it at N69 But Access deserves a fair of PE of 4 if other banks are 5  that is common Sence value of 55.2 
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Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 9:53pm On May 01 |
I think that profit attributed to equity holders is a sum of what common shareholders and what tier 1 bond holders are entitled to. I don’t think everything belongs to common shareholders. ETI that have similar tier 1 bonds separate these entitlements clearly. Please double check. aj8: Yes |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 9:46pm On May 01*. Modified: 11:02pm On May 01 |
That Access computation looks wrong. Access doesn’t have a higher fair value to UBA. Good to double check the entitlements of the tier 1 bond holders is deducted from the stated profit attributable to equity holders and not take erroneously the whole amount as belonging to common share holders. ETI that has similar tier 1 dollar bonds in their equity structure state the entitlement of tier 1 bond holders more transparently in their annual reports. aj8: Wema=39.50 GTCO=117.80 STANBIC=143 UBA=62.20 ACCESS =73.80 ETI=104.20 ZENITH=152.80
On Common Sense. Any doing below 5% dividend are likely to tick slightly lower in the short term but will eventual soar when the past is overtaken by future hope. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 9:35am On Apr 27 |
KarlTom: Na wa o.
Make una buy my UBA o  N40.1 or at best N44.55  |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 9:29am On Apr 27 |
nosa2: I would like to humbly remind the UBA refugees that the ETI rocket is warm, cozy and welcoming. ETI rocket wey don lose momentum. UBA engines getting final settings, once the weak hands have disembarked the door will be shut for take off.  |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 3:35pm On Apr 26 |
 Agbalowomeri: UBA will not dip below 45. It will reverse on Tuesday after a dip And range 45+/-5 till the bulk of the weak hands are shaken out before climbing up. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 5:41pm On Apr 25 |
chimex38: Speculation doesn't cut it. How about Instantaneous value investor Or just Instantaneous investor.  Buy at any instant of time it's undervalued Sell at any instant of time valuation has peaked. Maradona JIJO swap dance  |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 3:24pm On Apr 25 |
 KarlTom: If we ride with this narrative, who loses at the end of the day? 
6.7bn units held |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 3:23pm On Apr 25 |
robobo: You are right. The acquisition was not financed by UBA but be rest assured UBA would have been part of banks financing working capital (loan / overdraft with a max of yearly tenor). That said, the CBN rule is actually a double edged sword. In that in most frontier/ developing market, banks mogul/ owners are always also players in other sphere of the economy unlike in very developed markets. So there might be a need to find a delicate balance instead of policies that engendered total prohibition Indeed. It’s a good thing if UBA can loan money to TOE’s connected businesses. Restricting such corporate loans will be wrong. Especially the listed companies. For non listed companies restrictions should be in place. Perhaps the restrictions is related to personal loans and not corporate loans. Will be good to know which one. And provisions for personal loans look one kind as that money can vanish. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 3:07pm On Apr 25 |
Itzlinda: Exactly why I feel there's foul play in their result.
UBA have more customer appeal (both high income and middle class) than zenith bank.
People trust uba more than zenith bank here in the north.
There's no reason why they should not be making more money than zenith bank.
I suspect foul play by their *perspire to aspire*chairman I suspect he’s also not happy with shareholders as he was left to shoulder a huge chunk of the rights. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 2:07pm On Apr 25 |
UBA is a hold for me. I like their Q1 deployment of cash. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 2:04pm On Apr 25 |
Synergy  megawealth01: Na Tony handwork na all the companies him get is using UBA shu  |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 2:00pm On Apr 25 |
Okay momentum seller. Value buyer. Sunrisepebble: I sell when I think they have peaked but I don’t buy because they’re rising |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 1:51pm On Apr 25 |
UBA still grew TOTAL customer deposits by 10.4% which is just about the same rate Zenith grew customer deposits. UBA total customer deposits is double that of GTB. If you look purely at only day to day customers UBA even grew deposits better than Zenith. These are vote of confidence signs by customers to UBA’s banking services. nosa2: Its just a poorly run bank/business |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 1:39pm On Apr 25 |
You’re a momentum investor Sunrisepebble: I will add small speculation to mine |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 1:32pm On Apr 25 |
If so there is a high likelihood of reversal for UBA’s insider related impairment provisions in coming quarters or years. Not like those other impairments that never reverse. robobo: What the CBN is trying to achieve with the 100% provision for insider related credit (whether performing or not)is to force bank directors with interest in other businesses not to borrow from the bank they own/ are directors in. This will ensure that those other businesses they own does not enjoy interest rate subsidy from their directors bank and also ensure they dont tie down the bank they own with bad credit. In short it will force those other businesses to compete for funding with thier competitors at a fair rate |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 11:43am On Apr 24 |
Okay o robobo: Ohhh. That was a response to a post by Agba. I stated it as "COULD" because no one can read wale's mind. Which is one of the reason i stated transparency and adequate communication as a key thing lacking from the management. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 9:03pm On Apr 23 |
robobo: I dont understand the bolded robobo: My reading of the Oando recent moves (2025/2026),, particularly after the Eni acquisitions. 1. 6. Oando might find it true worth/ balance after the clean up (which could take as much as 18-24 months to fully implement). WT could also decided to go private at that point (as mentioned by Agba)
Selah |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 4:17pm On Apr 23 |
robobo: He go be like film IF/WHEN wale attends to those things i highlighted above. Reserves valuation already support N429. Other synergies can boost it up easily to N500. But N1k is way off if there is no further devaluation. Looks like you have muted the delist thoughts you shared earlier this year  |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 4:11pm On Apr 23 |
BabsO2: Those invested in Oando gather here. I have the following NAV valuation based on reserves computed as follows Company NAV per Share Oando N429 Seplat N 8,980 Aradel N997
Oando is at a deep discount based on reasons already discussed upandan here. Most especially will its turnaround succeed in view of its debt over load. This NAV of N429 is the value those lending money to Oando see and are taking a good cut of. And the market has discounted it to current price of N39 to reflect its high risk turnaround profile.
As low margin revenues from trading goes down, will management succeed in transforming Oando into 👉 A leaner upstream-focused energy company 👉 With stronger balance sheet 👉 With sustainable free cash flow 👉 With higher reserve monetisation efficiency And work towards its NAV based on reserves? mikeapollo: What valuation do you think is realistic based on hydrocarbon reserves? Recall they still have more oil resources that could be reclassified as reserves in medium to long term This was my AI assisted calculation in February. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 3:59pm On Apr 23 |
Sideways trading till clarity emerges for lift off. KarlTom: It's a New Dawn for OandO...  |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 3:56pm On Apr 23 |
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Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 3:48pm On Apr 23 |
Recall Oil went into a slump after the acquisition. No one was expecting the slump. mikeapollo: I think Wale and his team went into upstream business (from downstream filling stations) with little or no experience whatsoever in the sector! Probably the reason they bought Conoco Phillips at an overvalued price, among other issues. The inexperience is the biggest challenge and undoing. It could have been different if he had worked in the upstream sector e.g. in a global oil company like Shell, Chevron etc. before acquiring Unipetrol/Oando or if he had gone into partnership with experienced professionals in the upstream sector. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 3:44pm On Apr 23 |
robobo: My own na btw N500 -N1000 after the book is cleaned (1. negative equity cleared 2. Adequate working capital has been raised (so less dependent on bank borrowing) and 3. dividend restored) This steep valuation is not supported by hydrocarbon reserves valuation. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 12:56pm On Apr 23 |
ETI has luled while First Bank bullheads. I cautiously sold a little First Bank to push my ETI dividends to 4 digits when ETI was sub 50. Good to see First Bank charging ahead  ETI now N69.90 First Bank N78.3 right now |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 12:28pm On Apr 23 |
e don dey reach to fast and pray  Krisuba: I hope Bank result will not extend to may!! This suspense is getting too much |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 12:22pm On Apr 23 |
I reject that. Oando is growing deep roots. Fresh, strong green shoots will spring forth sooner or later with bountiful fruits. Those of us that held on got our shares in CSCS in March 2026. Those March shares are worth more than 5% dividend yield if sold right away. megawealth01: E dey lule like WALE no send us again  |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 10:11am On Apr 23*. Modified: 10:31am On Apr 23 |
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Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 3:55pm On Apr 22 |
Agbalowomeri: He will push it to 300 and sell  He may sell some to frontier investors later in the year or next year at N150 or N300 sef |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 5:20pm On Apr 21*. Modified: 5:53pm On Apr 21 |
Don’t focus too long on the price. Glance and move to something else. It’s like planting a yam or a seed. You don’t dig it out to confirm if it is rotten or developing roots. It may have rotten and died. And it may be developing roots. Pray OANDO is developing roots to the benefit of all stakeholders and shareholders. Its valuation based on hydrocarbon reserves is gooood. Itzlinda: I don de add weight since I offloaded my oando shares. Oando would move 4% up today and 6% down next week.
This stock fit mess up with person mental health.
I will jump in once I see clear breakout |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 2:42pm On Apr 17 |
 HesInMe: You think Aradel and Oando's businesses are comparable? I own both; I'm not so sure. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 1:37pm On Apr 17 |
Be patient. The ride will start in due season. Just like Aradel rested sub 450 and some despaired, while others laughed. Now it’s shining. megawealth01: I doubt Wale very well 😔 |