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TheLionofLasigi:
Well if he's your bravest and brightest then that says alot about men from the east.

It's not what I think or if Nigeria will let anyone go, it's about how powerful, deplomatic and united are you to get what you want. You don't deserve something if you're not strong and smart enough to take it.

I'm not Igbo and I'd like to think that I'm a detribalised Nigerian. I only speak English too..if that means anything.

"You don't deserve something if you're not strong and smart enough to take it." Would you say our governors and senators "deserve" to launder our commonwealth because they have strong cabals and they're smart enough to find the loopholes in the constitution to lie and betray our trust?

In a sense, would you say you're blaming the weak for being weak. Are you blaming the Igbos for being weak?

Note that I'm asking these questions from a neutral standpoint. I'm just trying to stay informed.

Kobojunkie:
No, hence the reason why I determine instead that rather than "abbormal", it is simply "different" from that which many are used to.
The same applies to dwarfism.

You're talking to a brick wall. Nigerians are very insensitive. It doesn't concern them because it's not happening to them.

TheLionofLasigi:
You've answered your question....cheap crude. But neither will a tactless hot head living in exile lead you to your promised land.

I see. As cowardly as he is, the irony is, he's one of the most courageous, popular persons from the East. He's very blunt whenever he speaks about secession but never tactful like you said.

The pieces are coming together now. The leaders in the East and Middlebelt are comfortable with the way their people live because they have their own palaces and kingdoms in the middle of the slum. All Nigerians are the same after all.

My question is, if a prominent leader or a group of Igbo/Middlebelt leaders come together and propose they want to push for secession, do you think Nigeria will let them then?

TheLionofLasigi:
Sunday's house has faced attacks twice, one of the other was set ablaze by government sponsored thugs, he has been attacked by state operatives while traveling, he didn't lead protests but led men into the bush to chase out bandits, or is it sowere who basically called for a revolution? Or is it the Niger Delta militants? None of them ran abroad disguised as a woman. Stop making excuses for cowards.

You seem to know a lot about politics. There's one thing I've always wondered and I couldn't really get profound answers.
Why does Nigeria not want to give the Igbos their out? Why is one Nigeria so important? It's not like it's a very efficient amalgamation... could it be because of the oil?

afroxyz:
you are abroad and you want people to shut down the country and die for you? if that was how Mandela, Steve Biko and Oliver Tambo behaved, would SA be independent today? A true revolutionary never runs

I'm not a fan of Nnamdi Kanu but just listen to yourself. What do you know about revolutionaries? What do you know about the struggle? Have you ever truly agitated against the wrongs of our government like you should? Sticking it to them consistently? Doing so even through social media takes a lot of balls.
Nigerians always want the easy way out. You type whatever behind your keyboard in your comfort zone because it's easy.

vickricky:
The man giving order is not here to fight along with the squad. Commanding from above mtcheeeeeeewww pure nonsense.

Reminds me of our president

Ooni:
[s]politics apart, let's give it to Ibos, even though I'm not one. You can't see their women hawking unapproved and harmful substance like Agbo, carrying basins in Lagos markets to covey things for buyers. If at all there is something called gender equality, they are closest in the continent to achieving that, as well as above global average.

As a Yoruba, I'd recommend we solve the myriads of challenges in our region such as the looming hijab civil war, uncharitable attitude of the northerners we are hosting, Benin camping of our fleeing sons and daughters, as well spate of criminality among our youths. If we don't solve these problems while talking about Ibos, it'll look like we are obsessed with them[/s]

This man has very strong hate for Yoruba people and it's understandable because the concentration camp called Nigeria has messed us all up one way or another. We are not the same people.

Na one Abdulrasheed Chibueze for Agege send you email o

What is Jelani and Jalil

What of your own dirty past of being a Nigerian??

Gbest90:
There are certain persons who aren't worth your time bro. Just save yourself the stress.

Yeah I know...lol thanks. I was just trying to help him realize that his energy is very negative.

complexBoss12:
If a supposed caveman knows that a post on public forum is for public opinion and digestion I wonder what level you have descended to not to know that. What is worst than a caveman bro??

By the way, it's in the spirit of every perspectives that I made my comment, why then is it paining you...

Very cunning black thing. Typical insensitive Nigerian. You'll do fantastic in Nigeria's current political environment. You messed up but you'll say anything to make your nonsense make sense.

Very caveman-ish. You don't understand my ideas. And then I even gave you opportunity to give your own idea, you shunned me. If you think useful perspective is utterly shunning something you don't understand, then you have confirmed my assertions. I wish you love, Mr Complex.

complexBoss12:
I sight you bro, contender for father of the year. I sincerely hope that your intellects put food on your table. And pls, while doing things for fun, [s]don't include beer parlour football tactics, without basis, that you type on a public forum with confidence[/s]

Some Nigerians will never grow. Instead of concentrating on what I'm doing, why not focus on yourself and find your own thing?
In my leisure, I run a football page on IG that has thousands of followers and a lot of Europeans appreciate and interact with my contents and I welcome every one's perspective. It's football man..
The real question is why are you so bent on ruining what you don't understand in 2021? Are you a caveman? Better don't channel this energy on your kids.

complexBoss12:
Yeah, you're probably right. [s]I don't think I should make out time to discuss tactics that no one is paying me for.[/s]

I find it fun discussing football tactics every now and then. Even though I'm not a coach or professional pundit, there are always people who need these kind of information. There are people that do music or art just for the fun of it and there are those making money from it.
Considering how Nairaland use to be rich in intellectuals, it is surprising the growing amount of clowns on Nairaland who would say anything to buttress an invalid point. You should have stopped at your first quote.
You don't know it yet but you're most likely to kill your childrens' dreams and they'll hate you for it.

complexBoss12:
all this una beer parlour analysis before match, I wonder if you're under pressure to say something.

Haha. Just having fun in this world I found myself o. If you have your own opinion on tactics let's hear it. I have the feeling that you don't.

Angelfrost:
Well, Madrid really is not quite versed in proper counterattacking footie compared to Chelsea.

Chelsea will get past them if Zidane doesn't get creative.

I disagree. Madrid is miles ahead. They just need to take a little more risky passes and get comfortable.

theoneJabulani:
the 3 man backline is nothing special, it's not like we haven't seen it torn apart before

It's not special but it's a safe haven. Only that Tuchel didn't take it as a safe haven but a war machine formation.

BurntDodo:
You're a talent bro! Your football knowledge is really good.

Thank you!

Gbest90:
Nice one. Although I don't know why I'm having this awkward feeling that this game will be really boring.

Thank You! I just checked Zizou's formation and it's 3-5-2 like I advised . My assertions were correct! I see Madrid winning 4-2

You might be correct that it will be boring because it's going to be end to end football with a lot of loose long passes. It is a battle of what team has the best passers and fastest players.

Very interesting fixture.

The 3-4-1-2 formation adopted by Tuchel is a solid shape. Even in high tempo, it balances out defensive and attacking power using pace and stamina. Fortunately for Chelsea, they have pace and stamina in abundance and the players have adapted to the shape quickly.

Using a back 3 is the rave now. You see Barcelona adopting similar shape in 3-5-2, Leicester of recent adopting 3-4-1-2 as well and many other teams. It allows the back 3 become a back 5 in seconds.

I have thought and thought and I concluded that the only way to beat this particular Tuchel formation is to play 3-4-3 matching their intensity and pace through counter (long balls) before the back 3 becomes 5. Even if the team isn't using a 3-4-3, what's most important is the pace and counter attacking through long balls to beat that back 3.

Tuchel's Chelsea is yet to play a team like Madrid that plays proper long balls to beat defensive lines so I'm really interested in this match.

Full Time Prediction -- Madrid 3 - 3 Chelsea


MODIFIED

HOLY SHIT. Just like I advised teams to play 3-4-3/3-5-2 inorder to win Chelsea, Zidane literally adapted it.

My assertions were correct!

paulolee:
yup I know terem sooo well...dt gee na my day1 nigee bk den for street....na sure Edo boy wey even align with me bk den for calabar..the gee good n na even sure padi wit iwobi n oshimhen...

Juga is that you?

Where is Ayade the greatest crying actor of them all??

Where is Kogi Health Commissioner?

Where is Honorable Desmond Idiot?

uniquetechng:
The difference is that Nat Phillips was loaned by top 5 league team, given game times in the EPL and Chupo Moting Played in EPL, PSG and now Bayern Munich which tells of his quality.
Ben Davies in the other hand was loaned to Fleetwood Town, Southport, Newport and back to Preston at 25.

Ozan Kabak in the other hand was a regular for Galatasary first team at 16, signed for Suttgart at 18, signed for Schalke 04 at 19 and regular for the Turkish national at 20 because he is a special talent. No basis for comparison.


Let me break it down for you don't understand it, Messi, CR7, Mbappe, De Lima, Rooney and the other top talents were already recognized at special talents at 18 and same class Kabak is grouped.


Eduardo Camavinga is just 18 but has been a regular for Rennes in Ligue 1 since he was 16, part of French national team setup since he was 17 and will be playing for either Baryen Munich or Real Madrid next season.


My point is both Nat Phillips and Kabak has played in Bundesliga and EPL therefore more experience than Davies who has been terrible in League one and League two until he recently that he was able to claimed a spot in Preston backline.

Our very own LB Andrew Robertson played for Dundee United a relegation team in Scotland, QPR in championship and HullCity in championship and wasn't even a regular starter at Hull. Andy in spite of his portfolio was still given play time immediately he joined Liverpool even flopping during the first few games. Mind you that Moreno was there and squad was fully fit. Now we have injured players and Davies still cannot get playtime. Make it make sense..or don't cause I know you'll say anything

The one you said about nationality, if Robertson or Kabak was English like Ben Davies playing for Dundee United or Schalke you can agree with me he'll not be called just like Nat Philips wasn't called.

You're just doing like Mane. Breathing heavy without anything to show lol

I am tired of lecturing you. If this is what you want to hear *Sigh...I respect your opinion lol You can stop quoting me now.

And lastly, muhahahahahabeg He said Messi and Ozan Kabak are in the same talent group.

uniquetechng:
[s]lol you don't seem to get it, Keita has been in LFC three years and Gini has started games ahead of him even when he is fit, so what makes you think the same Keita will bench Gini who is always the first in the team's sheet?

Stop talking about Mane playing ahead of Jota because both has started the last five matches and Jota has been as wasteful as Mane in those matches especially in the game against Madrid in Spain.


Ben Davies given an audition in 11 vs 11 match and he failed woefully, he was terrible and you want Klopp to pair him with who if I may ask?


Nat Phillips and Kabak are better defenders with top league experience than Been Davies whose only stat is playing a full season Preston who sit on 14th in Championship table.

Both Phillips and Kabak are proven defenders with UCL/FA cup/EPL minutes for Nat and Bundesliga experience for Ozan who has face Lewandowsky, Haaland, Timo and other top forwards in Bundesliga.


Ben Davies was a mistake buy, do you know the money Liverpool paid Davies is the only time a club has paid a transfer fee for him?[/s]

Your last paragraph sums up the entirety of your football knowledge. I keep telling you you're contradicting yourself. No club has paid for Nat Philips as well doesn't make him less of a football player. No club has paid transfer fee for Chupo Moting doesn't make him less of a footballer.
You still have a lot to learn but I hope you have taken one or two from me.
Klopp is not a god. He too can make mistakes and he just needs to learn from his mistakes.

uniquetechng:
Saying Keita should start ahead of Gini shows you know nothing about football, Gini has missed just one match in the last three seasons, he is the fittest player in that team and covers more ground than any other player in the absence of Hendo, Keita can't do half of what Gini does on the pitch for Liverpool.


Preston cannot be compared to Stuttgart who plays in the Bundesliga and even hammered Dortmund 1-5 . Norwich City will will beat Preston 8-0 base on present form, so Davies playing matches for Preston means nothing, he is an amateur who needs time to adjust to EPL.

You were even making case for OX who has been given plenty game time since returning from injury and has been below par, may I remind you that OX scored just 20 goals in 198 appearances for Arsenal, that's to say OX is not the solution to Liverpool's inefficiencies in front of goal.
Klopp has started Jota in the last five matches so I don't why you still want him to drop Mane for Jota when both players has been starting lol

Salah was actually benched in the game against Aston Villa to make room for Jota.

Stop blaming Klopp.

I see you didn't take my advice fully but I like the part where you googled Ox's Arsenal stats.

Gini Wijnaldum is lucky to see shirt because of injuries and you know it and where did you get the information that he missed only one match If Henderson comes back today, Wijnaldum is immediately going to the bench. Note that I'm not disregarding his abilities but I'm saying in games where opposition are sitting back which is most games these days, we need Keita ahead of Wijnaldum. Don't forget Keita is 26 and Wijnaldum is 31.

Once again, contradicting yourself. Are you not seeing that you are? I told you not to make up silly scenarios and assumptions to buttress your point. You haven't seen Ben Davies play beside Fabinho. That's all you need to know. Stop concluding like that, it's childish.

Plenty of game what? You're tripping. I now see you're trolling
As a CM, 8 premier league games or so starting 1 or 2. Even Messi couldn't do shit with that amount of game time.

You do realize Mane and Jota have the same amount of premier league goals where Jota played just 9 games (came of the bench in 4 or 5 of them) Mane played about 30 games.

Mane is the weakest link in our attack right now and it's not up for debate. Klopp loves the front 3 and I do too but he needs to realize that they're done. Especially Mane. He's done. Towards the end of last season, his decline has been evident.

uniquetechng:
I Davies wasn't signed to savage Liverpool's season ,Kabak plays for the Turkey national team and has Bundesliga experience to but that cannot be said of Davies who was terrible in the only match he has played in a Liverpool's shirt.
It will be foolhardy to pair Davies with Kabak at the heart of Liverpool's defence knowing fully well that Dave is more of an amateur player while Kabak is still adapting to the high pace of the EPL.

Back to Keita, nobody is saying Keita is a bad player but saying he should be starting matches ahead of Thiago certainly shows you don't know what you are saying. Keita just returned from a lengthy injury and need time to regain rhythm and be in sync with the team.


With Hendo and Nat Phillips out, who do you prefer Klopp pairs with Kabak in today's match


Jota started today's match and was quity as Mane wasting goal scoring chances, so what's your point

The Ben Davies point is already settled as you've contradicted yourself twice. Nat Philips played only 19 games for Stuttgart starting only 3 or 4 times. The rest of his career is total amateur U23 football at Liverpool(U23) while Ben Davies on the other hand was an important player for Preston starting almost all games.
Saying one person is an amateur and another isn't is not the case anymore. It's an issue of who is Klopp's favorite? How can Ben Davies not even come in 85 mins to even get 5 mins of game time? Haba!

I said Keita should be starting ahead of Gini not Thiago. And how can he find his rhythm when he's not getting minutes....how can any of the players on the bench?

I would risk Ben Davies long time ago like Klopp risked Kabak and Nat which surprisingly has been a better match up than with Fabinho in my opinion. I believe the more defenders play together, the more chemistry they develop.

Yes, Jota had just one bad game in like 8 good games after coming back from an injury. Have at him! Lol You could even see on Jota's face how badly he wanted to do better. I'm not kidding MANE IS FINE WITH THE WAY HE'S PERFORMING!!

Take my advice. Don't just say anything inorder to buttress your point, you should rationalize it first.

Na you go still play same players next fixtures like say nothing happen today.

MrMacinterchi1:
keep quiet!

na joke but Klopp has fallen off though. Don't forget he lost 7-2 to Villa with full squad which can happen to anybody but how about we ask Klopp to make stern decisions to put the forwards on their toes? Mane looks like he's having fun missing sitters.

uniquetechng:
Same Keita Klopp started against Madrid and was confused on the pitched and had to be substituted after 25mins and replaced with Thiago, OX has started two matches already and has been coming on in the second half of our matches yet has offer absolutely nothing to the team.
Nat Phillips is injured and every LFC fans knows that except you. Nah don't even start with Davies lol , Liverpool is under so much pressure at the moment and you want Klopp to throw a League One defender with zero EPL minutes into the mix

I refuse to follow the narrative that Keita is bad or anything like that . Even with Jesus Christ playing Madrid would still win Liverpool with that tactics. Keita was only scapegoat. Later on, Wijnaldum too became scapegoat. How many players do you want to blame?

The issue with people like you is you don't want to believe you can think for yourselves.
You have made the front 3 so comfortable. At a point, Jota was doing well than Mane and Mane was still starting. Jota would then come in second half to save their ass with a goal. This happened many times.

Where did I say Nat Philips is fit?

What's wrong with you? Because Kabak had premier league minutes before joining Liverpool? Kabak's couple of games before joining Liverpool was 7-0 defeat and look at him now.. decent.

The fact that you've never watched Davies play for Liverpool, means you shouldn't judge him. Kabak's game against Leicester should have written him off but that's not how football works. You can actually learn and adapt. And why are you acting like the man just walked through the doors and picked up a shirt... Liverpool BOUGHT him on purpose. Lol

It's not even about the defenders. It's imperative that Fabinho goes back into CDM! We need that.

openmine:
Shaq is a good player but always gives the ball away too often!
what is the influence of shaq in liverpool recent games that he has started?
Please leave out shaq..He is one of the players that should leave next season!



Thats because you are either not watching or following the progress of these players!
Chamberlain is a good player but he can only influence the game from the midfield and not the attack!
However,the likes of Chambers is also suffering from a dip in form and its basically due to a lenghty injury that he had...He will definitely find his mojo but not this season!




Ohh my God i hope you are not referring to the new defender bought from the championship league!
If thats the one you are talking about,then he is not ready for now!
He is good no doubt but still needs more training to adapt to the liverpool system of play!
Pls leave out Davies for now!



Fabinho is in defence due to an injury to Philips...that makes sense!



Sorry to say this but this is grossly unfair and you are apparently not a coach!
This is #LFC and not a mid table club that can throw in any upcoming defender to replace the likes of VVD or Matip!
Nat Philips is good but we all know that he was not as good as Henderson in terms of awareness and experience!
The defence is not an area that you just throw in anyone and expect the player esp a young lad to do magic!
Nat simply stepped up his game when he was given the opportunity but if all our key defenders were available would you still play Philips?




Klopp never made a mistake...His subs were sensible!
....We had 9 shots on goal and a huge possession stat....In other words,the team was on the front foot!
We only needed to put away the chances that came our way....but the front 3 fluffed their lines and you blame the coach for their profligacy in front of goal?
When you dont put away chances,the opponents will feel they have a chance against you!



Like Seriously?
The mother died some months ago and he has won most of his matches since then!
So when liverpool won against Arsenal and Aston villa,the mothers loss didn't reappear to him right?
Please look for another flimsy excuse!
Klopp stays and he is doing a superb job at #LFC in my opinion!

Well assessed and I respect your opinion. I don't believe Shaq gives the ball away as often as Mane does. Shaq has the technique that Mane can only dream of. Another issue is consistency. You have already concluded that Chamberlain and Shaq are bad and unable to perform but how many games did they start? Did Klopp configure the tactics to their advantage? We have seen Mane play below average every single game for almost 3 months that to me is enough reason try some other players. Origi didn't even do up to this and y'all are bashing him.

Chamberlain use to do fine attacking from the flanks at Arsenal and when he first joined Liverpool. You're reaching at this point. Give the man a chance damn!

Lol. You have never seen Davies play at Liverpool and you conclude he's not ready. You're definitely doing too much to downplay the facts.

Fabinho should never be in CB.

"Nat simply stepped up his game when he was given the opportunity" You're contradicting yourself. Nat is younger, didn't play as much games as Davies before Liverpool and Davies could also "step up his game" and Davies didn't just walk through the doors and picked up a shirt, Liverpool BOUGHT him.

Are you a coach? I doubt that because you can't identify potential.

Lmao you're trolling. Nobody except you agrees his subs are sensible.
Every Liverpool fan knows that's his greatest weakness.

Although, I take back what I said about wanting Klopp to get sacked lol I was only furious but I still think he needs to work on his decision making and flexibility.

Gbest90:
Hmmmmm.

You might be right, although the whole story would have been different had any of Salah, Mane, Jota or Firmino taken any of the numerous chances that fell to them.

I agree BUT we know the players we have. They're wasteful. Especially when all 4 forwards play together, they go crazy. Just because Salah scores 20 a season doesn't mean he didn't miss plenty seaters. Mane and Firmino too.

My problem is Klopp saw them falling off especially Mane and allow them play all 90mins game in game out. Shaq/Chamberlain would do better than Mane. At least they would have one shot that opportunity instead of going around the keeper like Mane did.

I'm just so disappointed, man. I don't want Virgil playing Europa.

Gbest90:
Lolz. Can you explain how Klopp is to blame for this?

I'm pissed off by the result as well, but one should blame poor finishing from the lads rather than Klopp.

Lol Gbest,
I agree that the forwards are not clinical but they've always been like this. Mane and Salah are not great finishers. BUT this season, they've been terrible especially Mane. BUT Klopp saw them, saw his other fit options and played the wasters.

Klopp has always had issues with decision making but this one today was absolute bogus. Favoritism and Rigidity of the highest order. Thiago was the player in the squad actually doing perfectly well and just 1-0 up, over 30mins left to play, no champions league, no fa cup, Klopp takes off Thiago who wasn't fatigued at all. Unbelievable.

It's funny because it's the attack that's obviously having problems and you're taking off a midfielder...where's the logic?? That's that underdog mentality. Afraid to dominate all 90mins.

Klopp is always so caught in his own emotions that he doesn't do the needfuls. The fact that we even had one more substitution and we didn't use it to slow down the tempo/waste time that last minute drives my point home. He needs to do better!