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TheKingIsHere:
Okay, i am not yoruba, thats why i dont understand these things according to you right?

But Oba of Lagos who is yoruba and one of the paramount rulers in yoruba land says Lagos is not yoruba land.

Till date no other oba or ooni has come to debunk his claims, only some disgruntled people online like yourself.

Let us rest

TheKingIsHere:
The ooni of Ife is the paramount ruler and father of yoruba land just the same way oba of Lagos is the paramount ruler and father in Lagos state..Shikena..

First of all You are not Yoruba so you cant Understand these things. Do you know Olubadan of Ibadan is not under the Alaafin of Oyo but Ibadan is under Oyo state. It is the same thing here the Ayangburen of Ikorodu and Elepe of Epe are not under Oba of Lagos but both Ikorodu and Epe are under Lagos State. Lagos Island the Original Lagos is what they used to name the entire state just like Oyo town is What they used to name Oyo state.

diadem10:
What's this one saying? We revere Ooni of Ife because Ife is the ancestral home of all Yoruba.

That doesn't mean the Deji of Akure has any saying in the decision making of Osemawe of Ondo, Olugbo of Ugbo, Jegun of Ileoluji etc, all of which are in Ondo state! Get that sunk in.

You see the People calling Lagos No man's land and they don't know anything about the place. Alaafin of Oyo is not the Paramount ruler of all Oyo state. He is the ruler of Oyo town and its environs, the Olubadan of Ibadan rules Ibadan but Ibadan is under Oyo state.

zenmaster:
That is why you should leave Lagos for Lagosians like us

I am from Epe, we are Ijebus though we have our own small King Elepe of Epe but we are under the Paramount Ruler of all Ijebu land the Awujale of all Ijebu land.

TheKingIsHere:
If we are going to use your analogy, that means ooni of ife has powers only in Ife town and not the entire south west....Abeg go and sleep, you have no point.

Yes he is not the Oba of all Yorubas, He is not my King we only respect him.My King is Awujale of Ijebu land.

Obi of Onitsha is the Biggest stool in Igboland doesn't make him King of all Igbos. There was nothing like Yoruba before, only people in the Old Oyo Empire were called Yorubas but after the various Wars we all fused under one Umbrella to be called Yorubas.

TheKingIsHere:
What are you explaining?

I asked a siimple question....Why is Oba Akiolu addressed as the Oba of Lagos? Why not Oba of Lagos Island? The media and everyone calls him Oba of Lagos, even the Ooni of ife refers to him as oba of Lagos not Oba of Lagos Island. Why is that so?

I can now concluded you don't read how many times do you want me to explain to you, the name cannot be Changed because that place he controls is the Original Lagos, that the Portuguese named Lagos. The entire State was named after that place, just like the entire Oyo state is named after Oyo town but there are other places that the Alaafin of Oyo doesn't control like Ibadan is under Olubadan of Ibadan.

If you have comprehension problem go and find solution to your problem oh!

diadem10:
Show me where it was stated that it's a Bini word.. You've really got comprehension issue. Lol.

That the people rallied for a Bini prince to help them fight against the neighbouring empire suddenly make the people Bini? Let me ask, did your ancestor eventually become a british because a British happened to rule them? Eko is a Yoruba word named by the People Oba Ado ruled in that era. They simply called for his help to help them fight against the empire warring against them and accepted him as their King. That had nothing to do with the whole of Bini folks when it was only one Bini man that came to rule Lagos island.

How come Ondo, Ogun folks that were closer to Bini are Yoruba? Lol. For your propaganda to have a basis, Ogun and Ondo would have to ceased to be Yoruba but Bini, or else, your propaganda is simply stupidity at its peak.

Moreover, only Lagos Island had a Bini King ruling over the Yorubas in that era and as you already know, a town doesn't make a whole region. Besides, Oba Ado's ancestral tree has already become Yoruba the moment his princess daughter married a Yoruba man who ascended the throne after his demise. Anyway, the point is if you and your ancestors never became a British because a British once ruled Nigeria, there's no way the people Oba Ado happened to rule in that era became Bini, just because Oba Ado was a Bini man!

You are right they don't even know Ondo and Ekiti were under the Benin Empire Pre-Colonial time, Oyo was under Alaafin towards Ilorin, only Ijebu was not conquered and was still under Awujale, Even the Romans once ruled over the British, they even gave them the name Britannia(Britain) does that make British Romans? Even Onitsha their first king was a Benin Prince does that make Onitsha for the Benin people. They don't know that's how Empire rule in those days.

sarrki:
There is no such thing as unbiased, Everyone is biased by what they know, what they don’t know, and all of their life experiences.

You talked so confidently on what you don't know

Learn he is not the Oba of the whole Lagos state, before Eko bridge was built, Cater Bridge was built how did he rule over people on the other side of the Lagoon?, I mean people on the mainland. Though he is the Chairman Council of Obas in Lagos State just like the Alaafin is the Chairman of the council of Obas in Oyo state but he doesn't control Ibadan, Ibadan is under the Olubadan of Ibadan.

TheKingIsHere:
When they refer to him, do they call him Oba of Lagoss Island or Oba of Lagos? Simple question.

How many times do you want me to explain to you, Isale Eko is the Original Lagos the Portuguese named "Lagos". After Amalgamation, other parts of the Western region(Ikorodu,Epe,Ipaja,etc) was included to Lagos(eko) to form Lagos State. The other parts they included have their own Obas. But because that Area Akiolu controls is the Original place called Lagos that is why the name is still retained as Oba of Lagos. If you are familiar with Lagos, if someone from Ikeja is going to Idumota,Marina,Isale eko area he/she will tell you I am going to Lagos, is Ikeja not Lagos state? But that Area is the Original Lagos.

sarrki:
Young man will you please keep quiet .

Where did you get that history from ?


Oba of Lagos is oba of the whole Lagos state

Aside him

The only recognized oba are ayangburen of ikorodu, Akran of Badagry and Epe

Aside this any other non indigene can be oba in Lagos

I mean Yoruba's

This are the only four places you find a family compound

What are you saying this man, some Obas in Ipaja is under Olota of Ota also an Awori king, is Elegushi under Oba of Lagos. Better shut up if you know nothing about the Land. Who told you he is the Oba of the entire State.

Eko which is that Isale eko area is the Original Lagos the Portuguese named "Lagos" other parts of the western region like Ikorodu,Epe etc was annexed with Lagos (Eko) to make it Lagos State.

Go and learn your history.

TheKingIsHere:
When they mention Oba Akinolu, do they call him oba of Lagos Island or Oba of Lagos?

I need an answer to this question.

It is not Akinolu, it is Akiolu, He is the King of Isale eko area other parts of Lagos have their own Oba, he is referred to as Oba of Lagos because that area is the original Lagos before other parts were joined together to make it Lagos state. He is not the Oba of the entire State. He is the Oba of Lagos(Isale eko), We have Oba Ashade in Ogba, Elepe of Epe, Ayangburen of Ikorodu,Elegushi of Ikate land,etc. Don't confuse it to mean he is the Oba of the entire State.

nengibo:
The name, Bayelsa, is an acronym of three former Local Government areas – Brass, Yenagoa and Sagbama. Stop shifting post from lagos

Nobody is shifting goal post just telling you some names don't have direct meaning. Ikorodu is an Ijebu territory go there and see people speaking Ijebu dialects on the street but I don't know the meaning of Ikorodu , I don't know the meaning of Oshogbo, Ekiti.

So you want to also contest Ikorodu with Ijebus now (Yorubas)

Tell me the meaning of Yenegoa

@nengibo answer me i am waiting for the meaning of Bayelsa and Yenegoa.

nengibo:
I know Nigeria has educated you that there are only three tribes but wake the f up this is 2017, I'm Ijaw like the former president so I don't know what anambra means

good What does Yenegoa and Bayelsa mean

nengibo:
How am I supposed to know?

You see how Foolish you are, so you yourself can't tell me the meaning of Ebonyi and Anambra and you want me to tell you the meaning of Ikorodu. No need arguing over Lagos, Lagos is Igboland. let us rest

nengibo:
You are deceiving yourself, the names show that the indigenous people are not Yoruba, since Yorubas can't interprete their names, useless landgrabbing oshogbo migrants

Ok even if you ask me the meaning of Oshogbo, i dont know the meaning, Ikorodu is Ijebu land no need arguing with you, its a fact not subject to argument or maybe Ijebu people are now Igbos maybe you should tell me.

What is the meaning of Anambra and Ebonyi

nengibo:
hahahahaha, you said Ikorodu was Yoruba name, I ask you the meaning you turn deaf & dumb, abeg nonsense dey smell, Yorubas are landgrabbers, Eko is a no mans land

Mumu Ikorodu is an Ijebu Land everybody knows that, but i am not an indigene so i do not know how the name came about, if you ask me the meaning of Ondo or Oyo or Ekiti i do not know even if am Yoruba. Not every name has a direct meaning. Maybe you should tell me the meaning of Ebonyi and Anambra

nengibo:
hahahahaha, you said Ikorodu was Yoruba name, I ask you the meaning you turn deaf & dumb, abeg nonsense dey smell, Yorubas are landgrabbers, Eko is a no mans land

Mumu Ikorodu is an Ijebu land everybody knows that, but am not an indigene so I don't know how the name came to be only people indigenous to Ikorodu can answer that question. If you ask me the meaning of Oyo or Ondo or Ekiti I don't know the meaning even if am Yoruba. Not every name as a direct meaning.

nengibo:
As a Yoruba man in yoruba land you don't know the meaning, Lagos is a no mans land

Fool was the meaning of Imo in Igbo.

nengibo:
What does Ikorodu & apapa mean in yoruba

Go to the Palace of Oba Ikorodu and ask him the meaning of Ikorodu.

zenmaster:
LMAO
Maybe a total of 35 Yorubas own land in PH and Benin

Funny

zenmaster:
No one is claiming anything.
Igbo pay for land in Lagos, and the indigenes continue to sell. Whose fault is that?


Igbo amaka

Many Yorubas own Land in PH and Benin does that make them no man's land.

Goke7:
truth is folks like the current oba of lagos and lagos politicians are not helping matters, they are ready to sell their heritage just for political gains which will not even affect them now but generations after them. The way the Lagos cultural heritage is being assaulted, hmmm I pity Lagos state indigenes o! Am from neighbouring Ogun state and that's why am bothered cos if I say e no concern me na small small e go reach my backyard as my town is just 45 mins from Lagos.

Ambode is doing a good Job in bringing back that consciousness but Yoruba PDP politicians are the major problem, they realize that Igbos have sizeable population in Lagos and they are mostly PDP or APGA so they want to use it as an advantage to dislodge APC in Lagos by offering them deputy position which is very dangerous.

Goke7:
guys these days just rely on stories they read on social media, no personal research to know historical facts. But it's high time the lagos oba stick to his domain and stop acting as if he is the oba of lagos state. He is the one giving these uneducated folks the mouth to argue to rubbish history.

I agree but you know that place is the real Lagos the name was just adopted for the other parts that were included so it might be difficult to adjust it to Oba of Lagos Island.

We must keep countering the Igbos even though it's not something we shd be arguing about the ownership but if we allow lies to go on for so long it will eventually become the truth.

Goke7:
I think it's high time the 'oba of lagos' title is redesigned to 'oba of lagos island' to stop this confusion. Even the present oba of lagos seems to be taking advantage even though he knows the boundary of his domain. Those who are not educated enough thinks he is the oba of Lagos state and that once he speaks, he is also speaking for those in badagry, epe or ikorodu.

Lots of folks don't even know epe is divided into two and has two obas, truly our school education na wash

I agree totally with you, even Akiolu himself is not a Benin Man, he is Awori(Yoruba man) very simple history the Local indigene(Awori) Asked for help from the Oba of Benin to help fight Invading Dahomey warriors and they asked the Benin emissaries to stay and that was how the place was named Eko and the kingship started. 3 generations down the line the Oba didn't bare a son and that was how his daughter married an indigene(awori) and the kingship went back to the locals.

Many of this Igbo folks don't even know Ondo and Ekiti were under the Benin Empire just like Lagos does that make Ondo and Ekiti Benin land. Even Onitsha was under Benin Empire and it's first king was a Benin Prince and so many other places in the Southern part of Nigeria.

Even the now Britain today was from the name Britannia is a Roman name when the Anglo saxins were under Roman Empire does that make Britain for the Romans? That's how Old Empire system is.

Goke7:
@the bolded, this is error, the oba of Lagos domain does not extend beyond the small lagos island, you guys should be properly educated. The oba of lagos is not the oba of lagos state. Other parts of the lagos metropolis have always had their obas till this very day. Even the oba of lagos knows his limitations. The contention of Lagos owned by the binis is the island or you want to include places like mowe, ibafo, ikorodu, badagry as belonging to the binis too?

That is what I have been telling that guy, the part that has ties with the Benin is Lagos Island called Eko other parts are undisputed Yoruba Land that has no ties to the Benin Kingdom.

TheKingIsHere:
You are only coming up with mere assumptions not a tangible evidence. Oba of Lagos says that Lagos belong to the Benin Kingdom. Even this professor that you supported said that the Benin populace were predominant in Lagos. They never mentioned Lagos island. They referred to the entire state.

That's why the whole Lagos(not just Lagos island) is called Eko which is a Benin word.

That is why I said you are not ready to learn the truth, see Lagos Island is the place called Lagos Originally which has ties with Benin, after amalgamation some parts of the western region were included to Eko(Lagos) to form Lagos State.

All those places I mentioned which make up 90% of Lagos state today are undisputed Yoruba Land. They have no ties with Benin at all, they were under the control of Awujale of Ijebu land and Olota of Ota(Awori)

TheKingIsHere:
So you want to take the part were the professor said Lagos is yoruba land but leave the part were he said that Lagos populace was predominantly Bini?

See humans?

You want to take the part that soothes you and ignore the rest.

Like I said, Lagos belongs to the Benin Kingdom. No amount of twisting can change this fact.

This is oba of Lagos visiting the former oba of Benin.

The alliance has always been there.

Which Lagos? Lagos Island or Lagos state? Because Epe,Ikorodu are Ijebu land. Surulere down to Ikeja,Ipaja to Mushin are Awori land.

At least Benin had nothing to do in those places are they also Benin land.

You don't even know Ondo and Ekiti were under the Benin Empire pre-colonial era does that make them Benin land.

TheKingIsHere:
No one is disputing the part of the aworis.. But say the truth as it is, the people of Benin were predominantly in Lagos. Even this professor stated it clearly that:



So, the aworis were there no doubt but majority of the populace were Benin.

The oba of Lagos should give more lecture on this.

OK let's assume Benin owns Lagos Island. So is Benin the owner of other parts of the Western region which was merged with Eko to form Lagos State? Places like Lekki,Ajah,Ikorodu,Epe,Ipaja,Mushin, Yaba, Surulere,Ojuelegba, Isolo etc all with Yoruba names.

Please answer these question.

TheKingIsHere:
No one is disputing the part of the aworis.. But say the truth as it is, the people of Benin were predominantly in Lagos. Even this professor stated it clearly that:



So, the aworis were there no doubt but majority of the populace were Benin.

The oba of Lagos should give more lecture on this.

The majority were never Benin. It was only the Benin soldiers invited to protect the Aworis against the Dahomey Warriors invasion.

The only place you can find Predominant Benin is in Edo land.

I urge all my Yoruba brothers to leave Igbos let them feel good of themselves. The reality on ground shows its our land.

TheKingIsHere:
Lagos belongs to the Benin Kingdom.

That's a fact the yorubas can never erase.

Thank you Oba Akinolu for saying the truth

The history is very simple but you guys have decided to close your ears to the truth. I tell the truth as it is even if am Yoruba.

Aworis predominantly Fisher men are Decendants of Olofin who migrated from Ile-ife to that space called Eko, the Bini Empire only got into the history when they were invited by the locals to defend them against Dahomey invasion and constant raid.
Oba of Benin sent soldiers to protect them and the indigenes(Awori a Yoruba group) asked them to stay and rule over them. Prior to then, there was no established kingship so the Benin emissaries started the kingship and named it Eko(War Camp).

Benin people did not migrate to occupy Lagos just a few emissaries like Obanikoro.
Many generations down the line the Oba didn't bare a Son, so an indigene Awori had to marry his daughter and that was how the kingship returned to Aworis.

Oba Kosoko,Dosunmu,Oyekan,Akiolu are all Aworis not Benin.

You also have to understand that Lagos state is different from Lagos Colony the British used as the seat of administration. That Lagos Colony is what the Benin emissaries named Eko.

After amalgamation, part of the Western region was merged with the Lagos Colony to form Lagos State.

So Lagos is a Yoruba land because the Oba of Lagos himself is an Awori a Yoruba man.

Oba of Lagos is not the Oba of the entire Lagos he is the Oba of Lagos Island but if you are familiar with Lagos life they called Lagos Island "Lagos"cos that's where it all started from.