francizy:
Skills does it all!!!

Education does it all bro. Through specialized knowledge you get skills.

OLAADEGBU:


No. Christianity and Islam are not similar in any shape or form. The Allah of the Qur'an is different from the Yahweh of the Bible. The Jesus of the Qur'an is not the Jesus of the Bible. If Muslims truly believe Jesus of the Bible to be their prophet they would have believed His saying that He is the way, the truth and the life. The Muslim heaven is different from the heaven Jesus spoke about in the Bible.

Hmm....I think I'm going to read the quran to see what the core values of Islam are but you have a point from what I've read so far.

fearlesschicken:



Mmmm.....but isn't it possible that one can grow out of what used to interest them and get another interest to replace the other?

Yes it is possible. The bottomline is to seek and pursue your interests.

dearpreye:


Thanks boss. DO IT NOW has been my approach to issues in the last weeks. And I'm achieving a lot.

Good to hear that. Keep it up bro! The phrase that got me on my feet was 'use what you have, start where you are' and I did just that.

If you want to see your God given potential developed to its fullest, don't wait until everything is perfect...

Do something Now!

A life coach is a person who has developed and dedicated themselves to learn and understand principles of life to enable them live an extraordinary life and educates, supports and motivates others to also understand these principles for a performance-driven life. Life coaching is quite new in this part of the world and is a very relevant career to aid the development of our society through developing leaders and Nation builders. With the rut in our society, it is relevant to play a part individually and as a team to enhance citizen governance through character, relationship and capacity building, moral and entrepreneurial development and structural contribution. 

Are you tired of playing small in your field and seek to make an impact in the society? Do you ever feel like there is more to life than where you are at now and seek to grow further? Do you think you can reach within with or without support to discover what you are capable of? Do you seek an extraordinary life or the greatness you were created for? Or you are an intending or already established life coach?

Then take your first step into a whole new world of possibilities. Join the 'Empowered For Freedom' movement Facebook group by clicking https://www./empoweredff

It would be a real pleasure meeting you.

OLAADEGBU:


In your first sentence you said Islam and Christianity means the same thing, no?

Did you just read only the first sentence?

A life coach is a person who has developed and dedicated themselves to learn and understand principles of life to enable them live an extraordinary life and educates, supports and motivates others to also understand these principles for a performance-driven life. Life coaching is quite new in this part of the world and is a very relevant career to aid the development of our society through developing leaders and Nation builders. With the rut in our society, it is relevant to play a part individually and as a team to enhance citizen governance through character, relationship and capacity building, moral and entrepreneurial development and structural contribution.

Are you tired of playing small in your field and seek to make an impact in the society? Do you ever feel like there is more to life than where you are at now and seek to grow further? Do you think you can reach within with or without support to discover what you are capable of? Do you seek an extraordinary life or the greatness you were created for? Or you are an intending or already established life coach?

Then take your first step into a whole new world of possibilities. Join the 'Empowered For Freedom' movement Facebook group by clicking https://www./empoweredff

It would be a real pleasure meeting you.

kaboninc:


Hahahaha...you guys don't like rules?

The last word was piggery. So form three words and give a seven letter words from which three words will be formed. The circle continue till infinity.

So piggery - pig, pry, rip.

Finesse

Avoided - Void, dad, dove

Limited

francizy:
Odiegwu - die, do, go...

Odiegwu - dew, wig, ego



Limited

ajasa4link:

Oga if u dont want our opinion, u shouldn't have opened the thread on a public forum or general discussion. Its my opinion am airing for crying out loud. Ah na wa o

You have aired your opinion, thank you. This is a personal development thread but you do not need it. You guys are comfortable where you are and have stated it that not everyone wants a deeper meaning to life. So you see, it's for everyone that seeks more from life and are willing to leave their comfort zone.

ajasa4link:

Of course not!... What am simply saying is a man who earns a decent living and caters for his family is more fufilled than an individual who amasses wealth just for the purpose of being called wealthy. To me, living a middle class, helping the few people u can help is far more better than being a multimillionaire whom half of the population hates. Anyway its just my personal opinion which i know not everyone will share

A man who desires a decent life to cater for his family is a selfish man. He's not thinking of anyone but himself. To be honest with you, successful people mostly have others in mind when building their fortune because they understand that it's in giving that they receive. Many of the things they learn is what the Bible teaches and that's why they end up establishing foundations to cater for the poor. Wealthy men are not hated but admired. Only jealous and lazy men - the Cains and Esaus of our time - who lack the courage to set and achieve goals envy them. You guys have no business on this thread because with such mindset like that of Robert Kiyosaki's poor dad, you're not going to understand the motive of this topic.

ajasa4link:

Exactly bro! I think an individual whose focus in life is to get a decent living and reproduce hasn't done anything wrong and in fact is a fulfilled person because if u think about the great hustle of getting money, packing it in millions and keeping it only to spend it in getting good life, then u will know an average individual who makes decent living and reproduce has lived a good life with meaningful purpose unlike his colleague in the opposite camp

So what you're saying is a man whose only concern is to work to earn a living to cater for him and his family alone is more fulfilled than a man who works hard to create great wealth for himself and easily caters for his family and in addition betters the life of so many people through providing work for them and many more others through acts of charity?

PRISTINEMUSCLES:
This question is very pertinent and once its answer can be figured then "living" replaces "existence". Forgets that cliche of "anywhere belle face na way" and figure out your purpose which is then followed by that strong desire and driving force to achieve it. It does not stop there. One then needs to take the neccessary actions/steps needed to achieve such purpose. Then the joy of self-fulfillment, real living and self-actualization will know no bounds in your life.


Nice one @poster
Nice one

Thank you Sir. Despite so many still existing in the dark of what our forefathers left us, quite a number of people have started to realise that life was given for us to live to the fullest. Only people who haven't found the courage to live still think that to be wealthy is not a good thing. They're quick to use the phrase 'all rich men would go to hell' failing to realise that wealth is part of God's gift to man.

charix:


Not everyone wants a deeper meaning to life.
I, like my forefathers, want to come into life, have children, take care of them and groom them well into adulthood so they can continue the cycle. If my children or their children want something deeper from life then they are free to chase whatever it is. I on the other hand would stay content with what I build for myself.

Everything the average man does in life is centred around getting a good mate and creating offspring; its agreed some people go against the grain but the majority of humans follow that thought because it has worked for millions of years.

I figured that out before you said so and I do not have anything against your desire. The post was actually meant for people who seek more from life and I stated clearly for those who seek their definite major purpose. To you, your purpose on Earth could be to bear children but some have a greater purpose to be of essence to the world, to shine bright and glorify the Creator who gave life. When you stop thinking about yourself, maybe you would realise that you owe those children you would bear the responsibility of a life of purpose and not a family tree which is only restricted to the thought patterns of the world.

charix:
We need a third party in this discussion. I'd come back when someone else contributes.

If contributors is what you need, then go to same thread in jobs/vacancies section. Like I said different strokes for different folks. If your purpose works for you, then keep at it.

Just so you all know, Africa is high on the list of continents with emerging millionaires and entrepreneurs. Be aware that Lagos has the third highest number of millionaires behind Johannesburg and Cairo, right above Capetown, South Africa.


http://pulse.ng/business/african-money-men-check-out-the-cities-on-the-continent-where-you-find-super-millionaires-id3745156.html

jamanuka:
The environment Andrew Carnegie found himself was key..@ajasa4link put things in context, we need to factor in the harsh reality of the country we have found ourself

Do you mean to say there aren't great men doing great things in our society? Aren't there many failures even in the Western world?

We have the right environment everywhere, but it starts with you. You have to find the right environment yourself. The environment you need is with those successful people because to become like them, you have to think like them.

ajasa4link:

I appreciate what u are saying and where u are coming from. But at times the harsh reality of things is different from what u read in motivational books, citing examples of white men who grew up in the western world and what have u.
I think at the end of the day it takes God's grace to pursue one's purpose /ambition to a positive conclusion

Circumstances shouldn't control us, we should control circumstances instead. God never created us to be losers but to win it all the time. That we are created in God's image and likeness doesn't just mean our appearances, there's a lot more to that, meaning we were created for greatness and possess the power to do great things. Even our Lord Jesus Christ mentioned it in the Bible. Regardless of where a man comes from, he is still man and if only he seeks power in knowledge he would be unstoppable. God's grace reigns with us eternal right from the moment He gave us His word.

sholay2011:
Lovely thread.

@OP...God bless you.

Bless you too Sir

ajasa4link:
@op listen up, the Nigeria of today (i mean the Nigeria our fathers are leaving for us) does not give one the needed opportunity to discover ones main purpose in life, not to now talk of the opportunity to work out such goals and make sure the become accomplished. Right from childhood an average individual usually has one or two future ambition(s) which he plans achieve in life, but with time they become just dreams, then unattainable goals, and finally forgotten dreams. Take for example an individual who wants to be a doctor for the purpose of touching lives, but is constantly being declined admission by UNILAG for 3 consecutive years and the 4th year he puts in for medicine in unilag as first choice and microbiology in lasu. As usual he is denied admission by unilag after meeting cut-offs, but finally gets admitted to study microbiology in lasu. Ok, fast forward after 4years studying microbiology which he has no passion for and after the completion of nysc he is faced with the problem of getting a good job in his area of study. At the end he gets a job in an insurance company where he is treated like shiiit, but he keeps up with the whole shiity treatment he gets because he wants to make a living no matter what. Later he becomes a boss in the industry, but becomes a pain in the ass for his subordinates, he treats people shiitier than he was ever treated while he was a junior.
The main point of my story is, the harsh reality of the society has turned our young friend who wanted to become a doctor to touch lives, into nothing but pain in the ass for for his subordinates and a ruthless task master who barely gives a hoot about others welfare provided the team is able to meet and exceed set targets. And as u can see my friend, his goals have been transformed into forgotten goals.

Just like many other people you have highlighted the problem which we all know is a big problem. But have you sought a solution? No you haven't. From what you say an individual has a few ambitions that eventually end up as dreams, but if I tell you it should be the other way round, would you agree?

First it starts with the dream and turns into an ambition but still remains a dream if it is going to be realised. You cannot accomplish something if you cannot dream it and then through the right processes make it a reality. Yes our fathers are leaving us nothing good but they say if life throws lemons at you, make lemonades out of them. We all have the power to create something out of nothing, let alone what is being left for us which is something. The truth is that every society have their own problems but that doesn't stop those who still conquer and thrive in those environments.

If you read through history you would learn about people like Andrew Carnegie who made millions out of a steel industry he knew nothing about, only that he had the dream to do so. From this dream emerges the desire to achieve it and when you possess a strong desire to achieve something, there's no stopping you. The problem with our own society is that we focus on the difficulties and those we cannot do, rather than on the things we can do.

Life itself is difficult but nothing good comes without difficulties. Without pressure diamonds cannot be retrieved from rocks. Without extreme heat you cannot get chunks of gold. Amidst thorns do roses blossom.
Success in any endeavor requires steps that every successful man passes through and in appreciating the difficult process do they come out victorious.

Regardless of the situation, defining our purpose is mandatory as it is the first step. Before making a trip, you should know your destination. As the destination compels us to make the trip, so does purpose and desire push us to do the needful to achieve success. The individual abandoned the dream and settled for less than he desired. And like I said it only gets worse as you see that he not only made life unpleasant for himself but also for those around him and his surbodinates at the company.

charix:


When you sit to think about it, at the very core of nature this defines us and is no different from any other animal.



It drives every mammal and reptile known to man



Its worked for millions of years and would never fail.



Its simple: I'd go to school, get good grades, get certificates get a good job with those certificates, a good job would allow me get a woman who I'd then seed to give me children. With a good salary and advancements in medicine occurring every year It'd ensure most of them don't've life-threatening diseases to ensure they live long enough to have children of their own.




Travelling is pleasurable for every living thing. If humans never enjoyed travelling alot of innovations would've not existed and lands would remain undiscovered. Yes, travelling is an expensive hobby but only if you use flights as your major means of transportation. Also, apart from tourist destinations(heavily overpriced), you can choose to experience local life by integrating yourself into the community via renting an apartment or sharing with locals.
I can think of multiple methods to cut down costs but I feel they're unneeded if I secure a good job to support myself and the family.

By the way, if this was an interview you didn't score any points. And if I went on, you would be amazed when you realise you don't exactly have a definite purpose.

Trayoralas:
Also many people claims they need money both young and old. One day, i decided to interview people to really know what they use money for, at the end of my interview, i was upset cos you see people working hard as a factory worker all in the name of buying tablet phone which they cant operate. Some said they need money to celebrate their girlfriend's birthday, one man said he needs money to alway check in an hotel, some ladies end up saying to buy clothes, jewelleries,shoes etc. I think i dont blame nigeria but blame nigerians for the economy.

It's rather appalling that people choose not to learn and then the society suffers. One response I got on this same thread on another section from a man is that his main purpose is having children and providing for them to extend his lineage. And as I asked if it does translate to a vision for him, he said so tenaciously that he would simply go to school, get good grades and get a good job. And I'm like hmm We just need to start to ask ourselves relevant questions.

charix:


When you sit to think about it, at the very core of nature this defines us and is no different from any other animal.



It drives every mammal and reptile known to man



Its worked for millions of years and would never fail.



Its simple: I'd go to school, get good grades, get certificates get a good job with those certificates, a good job would allow me get a woman who I'd then seed to give me children. With a good salary and advancements in medicine occurring every year It'd ensure most of them don't've life-threatening diseases to ensure they live long enough to have children of their own.




Travelling is pleasurable for every living thing. If humans never enjoyed travelling alot of innovations would've not existed and lands would remain undiscovered. Yes, travelling is an expensive hobby but only if you use flights as your major means of transportation. Also, apart from tourist destinations(heavily overpriced), you can choose to experience local life by integrating yourself into the community via renting an apartment or sharing with locals.
I can think of multiple methods to cut down costs but I feel they're unneeded if I secure a good job to support myself and the family.

Having children might be natural for us but not much of a life purpose to me unless you say that's what you're in this life to do. Yes children can drive you to keep going but not when they're not yet in existence. Then why would I start to consider having children my purpose when I should be carving out a life that I can eventually bring them into. Perhaps you do not realise the number of families out there that have problems catering for themselves because they did not make the right decisions. Does it mean that they are not driven by having children? Or do they just choose to live small?

Having children is more of a choice now as there are even greater purposes to life. There are lots of children already who roam the streets with no one to cater for them, so I know having children is not much of a core value. If it were a strong enough drive, so many people would not wallow in poverty with so many children to feed and clothe. If it has been working for millions of years, then all the successful people I know and heard their stories would never have achieved success. Perhaps it might work for a person who chooses to live an ordinary life - or should I say exist because living life does not involve anything ordinary - and that's why you see so many people never living up to their potentials.

I have heard what you call a vision so many times. Go to school, get good grades, get a good job that would provide security. I have heard that since I was a child until I grew up and realised that it was someone else's vision. Yes that's what my parents wanted, but that is a vision dated back to 18th-19th centuries. Little wonder it doesn't seem to be working much in our society. The job security people seek do not seem to be there eventually as they end up retiring with nothing to show for. The only job security available is the one provided from working for yourself, that way no layoffs and retirements. Gladly I came to get a better understanding when I came across that 'go to school, get good grades, get a good job' crap - no offense meant - in Robert Kiyosaki's 'Rich Dad, Poor Dad'.

Now why would I want to go through all that when traveling when I should be really having fun. I do not have to stay with locals or rent apartments. Hotels are part of tourism and my vacation cannot be complete without checking in a couple of them. If I have to work so hard and then start to cut costs for vacation and leisure then I should not be in that career. Not every destination is a travel destination.

Anyway different strokes for different folks and that's one reason some are fulfilled and others are not, some successful, others unsuccessful, some working to earn a living, others making a fortune as the owners of the companies they work for. My advice to those who seek beyond an ordinary life, is that it's possible but they need a greater purpose and it should genuinely involve other people.

Quite often, a lot of people find themselves with issues defining their definite life purpose. They lack self-fulfillment and know they aren't accomplishing much and also know they ought to be doing more with their lives but just seem lost and confused as to what it is. Usually this leads them to working jobs they don't desire and just have to do to make ends meet, ending up unhappy, stressed and angry. This results in them transferring their aggression to coworkers, friends, family and people they come across daily at some point.

I can relate with that because it is an experience I have felt and really did not like. It gets worse because we spend so much time at the workplace and being often exposed to such environment means that we would just get that feeling over and over again, making it a part of us and depriving us of so much pleasant things like love, happiness, friendship and the feeling of fulfillment.

Honestly we do not have to go through it, and only do so because we unconsciously choose to. We do not need to work jobs we do not find pleasant and satisfactory. As a matter of fact, we can do the things we desire and pursue our dream careers only if we decide that we want to do so. And when we are doing the things we are passionate about, we stand a better chance of success and this eventually leads to more efficiency at the workplace, healthier relationships and marriages and a happier life.

The only way to achieve this is to first discover your definite major purpose which is the driving force to lead to success and then seek and accomplish goals in that respect. When you realise the power you possess to create the life you desire, then you can strive to do just that. And this is one of the many needs for self-development.

Quite often, a lot of people find themselves with issues defining their definite life purpose. They lack self-fulfillment and know they aren't accomplishing much and also know they ought to be doing more with their lives but just seem lost and confused as to what it is. Usually this leads them to working jobs they don't desire and just have to do to make ends meet, ending up unhappy, stressed and angry. This results in them transferring their aggression to coworkers, friends, family and people they come across daily at some point.

I can relate with that because it is an experience I have felt and really did not like. It gets worse because we spend so much time at the workplace and being often exposed to such environment means that we would just get that feeling over and over again, making it a part of us and depriving us of so much pleasant things like love, happiness, friendship and the feeling of fulfillment.

Honestly we do not have to go through it, and only do so because we unconsciously choose to. We do not need to work jobs we do not find pleasant and satisfactory. As a matter of fact, we can do the things we desire and pursue our dream careers only if we decide that we want to do so. And when we are doing the things we are passionate about, we stand a better chance of success and this eventually leads to more efficiency at the workplace, healthier relationships and marriages and a happier life.

The only way to achieve this is to first discover your definite major purpose which is the driving force to lead to success and then seek and accomplish goals in that respect. When you realise the power you possess to create the life you desire, then you can strive to do just that. And this is one of the many needs for self-development.

charix:
My main purpose in life is to make children, provide for them and ensure they live long enough to continue my lineage.


People feel unfulfilled in life because they do not travel. Most people who travel the world -- you don't even need to travel the world, you can travel around your country and still find fulfilment. The beauty about travelling to foreign lands is seeing how other places, people and cultures intermix would give you a longing to stay alive; the discovery of diversity always leaves an impact on you that staying in one place all your life would never achieve.

I encourage everyone to save up money they'd use to travel once in a while. The farther the destination the better. Your body, mind and spirit would thank you for it.

So you're saying your core values are having children and catering for them? That's what drives you? Is that strong enough to pull you through? Can you translate it into a vision? How would you ensure they live long?

As much as I agree with you on the importance of traveling, I do not believe it solely provides fulfillment. Yes you might find pleasure from traveling and gain valuable knowledge but can you find satisfaction from it? Surely you would want to visit various places over and over again to get that pleasure you seek and doing so by saving money puts more pressure on you. Of course traveling is an expensive hobby and so it is bound to put a strain on your pocket. Now we all know how money issues can be a real problem to many.

Quite often, a lot of people find themselves with issues defining their definite life purpose. They lack self-fulfillment and know they aren't accomplishing much and also know they ought to be doing more with their lives but just seem lost and confused as to what it is. Usually this leads them to working jobs they don't desire and just have to do to make ends meet, ending up unhappy, stressed and angry. This results in them transferring their aggression to coworkers, friends, family and people they come across daily at some point.

I can relate with that because it is an experience I have felt and really did not like. It gets worse because we spend so much time at the workplace and being often exposed to such environment means that we would just get that feeling over and over again, making it a part of us and depriving us of so much pleasant things like love, happiness, friendship and the feeling of fulfillment.

Honestly we do not have to go through it, and only do so because we unconsciously choose to. We do not need to work jobs we do not find pleasant and satisfactory. As a matter of fact, we can do the things we desire and pursue our dream careers only if we decide that we want to do so. And when we are doing the things we are passionate about, we stand a better chance of success and this eventually leads to more efficiency at the workplace, healthier relationships and marriages and a happier life.

The only way to achieve this is to first discover your definite major purpose which is the driving force to lead to success and then seek and accomplish goals in that respect. When you realise the power you possess to create the life you desire, then you can strive to do just that. And this is one of the many needs for self-development.

fearlesschicken:

Thank you very much! It is really helpful

So how does one regain interest in what he has lost interest in?

You would have to search your heart for what interested you to it in the first place. If you had a strong interest in it, then you're not gonna lose that interest. Even if you do, it can be re-ignited.

If you start to look at people in church before you worship God, then that's a big issue. Remember when the time comes, you're gonna stand on your own. Bashing others doesn't make you any more special, instead it keeps you from seeking wisdom. The only thing you need to understand and serve God. Seek self-development and a renewing of the mind.
Happy Sunday!