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PAGAN9JA:
According to Science.

Good. I believe the word of God and not science on this matter.

PAGAN9JA:
you mean bible gives accurate lies.


bible is stubborn and doesnt evolve. becomes it is fillwd with stupidity of dead men.

You said so.

porka:
[size=13pt]Beliefs!

Everyone is entitled to his/her belief.

People who don't believe in creation claim they believe in the big bang theory.

So who recorded the bang?

And how can a tiny particle bust and become so big as the earth and all the galaxies?[/size]

The funny aspect is that they call all these 'theories'. These scientists are not yet sure of what they have propounded. Ask them how the earth itself came into existence and you will get other laughable stories describing it.

chuna1985:
lmao. its a huge topic, I can't explain dere.

Ok. Let us keep our fingers crossed and wait for this new and wonderful set of humans that will evolve in time to come. All I know is that dogs, cats, apes, humans and all other living things will give birth to their own kind. I wonder why a mango tree has not given rise to an orange tree before.

4X4:
SINCE ADAM AND EVE STARTED THE WORLD THEN WHY ARE THERE HUNDREDS OF RACES ? WHERE DID CAIN FIND HIS WIFE SINCE IT WAS ONLY CAIN AND ABEL THEY HAD ? WHY IS IT THAT EACH FAAMILY'S DNA IS DIFFERENT FROM ANOTHER FAMILY ?

Gen.5:4 After he(Adam) begot Seth, the days of Adam were eight hundres years, and he had SONS and DAUGHTERS.
Have you read of the 'Tower of Babel' where God scattered the people to all parts of the earth, giving them different languages?
Gen.11:7 Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
8. So, the Lord scattered them abroad from over the face of all the earth, and they ceased building the city.
9. Therefore its name is called Babel, because there the Lord confused the language of all the earth; and from there the Lord scattered them abroad over all the face of all the earth.

Samdurance:
Guy there are many questions to be asked.
If we say God knows everything then why did he then create wat will be a distraction for Adam and Eve wen he don't want them to touch them. Adam and Eve gave birth to Cain and Abel and Cain killed Abel, then which city of Nin did Cain see his wife and who gave birth to the girl? Let's just be morally good and allow religion to flow on its own. Religion is slavery using a name God to cause confusion. Islam preaches Peace, Christianity preaches Peace too but the fanatics of both religions do otherwise cos they feel we are different. Why?

Eve did not cause distraction to Adam. It was only when devil deceived Eve that such distractions came in. There are many distractions from both males and femlaes on earth today.
Gen.5:4 After he (Adam) begot Seth, the days of Adam were eight hundred years, and he had SONS and DAUGHTERS.

Dani4tech:
He was the first MAN ... But i don't think he was the first BEING

But do you believe that Adam was the first man God created on earth and no other being before him physically?

sylarsquins:
Go find dat out, wen u do I'll ask u d 1 question dat wud kip u guessing

I do not need finding it out. Just give me the assumption about the age of the earth by science.

sylarsquins:
How old do u tink d earth is, after the so called creation of Adam and Eve?

What business have I gor to do with the age of the earth? Even science cannot specifically say how old the earth is. People started counting their ages and not that of the earth after Adam and Eve sinned against God and God sent them out of the garden of Eden. This is when counting of age began.

chuna1985:
That Adam story na Lol story.

Fine. But we will keep waiting for another set of humans to evolve from primates. I wonder how they will look like.

arsenalqueen:
u dnt need 2 disturb ursf explaining 2 him! I av som1 like him as a frnd 2, dey wil always look 4 an excuse

Thanks dear.

uzolexis:
That bible sef who wrote it? I'm a christian who has stopped reading d bible cos that book is very contradictory n full of errors.

My dear, I do not know what to say to you. There were secretaries in the time of old that recorded these scriptures you read in the bible. The Holy Spirit helped the early scholars to compile all these scriptures into one book called 'the bible'. If the Holy Spirit does not help any christian, he cannot understand ANY part of the scriptures. Rather, they will seem foolish to him b/c they are only SPIRITUALLY discerned. If God does not help a man to understand the bible, it will surely look foolish to such a person. God made it to be so in that no one will follow God through human wisdom, theories or science.
Christians walk by FAITH with God and not by SIGHT (science or theories).

Touchey:
if your parents had sent you to a standard school with qualified and certified teachers you wouldn't be asking such questions,
or
did you skip classes?

You make me laugh. To you I look uneducated. Anyway, I sound as such when you touch my christian faith.

johnnychuks:
that's means no be small work ooh sara flezing for both of them now.

God created Eve and gave her to Adam so that they can reproduce, multiply on earth and subdue the earth. This is very straight-forward, no complications, no assumptions, no specu'ations, no modifications, unlike science and its theories.

kelvin100:
Bible creation theory is crap!

Every human evolved from previous animals on earth as stated by Darwin.

One thing you bible believers don't know is that human or homo sapiens are not the only human species that ever lived.

Humans have up to 4 different species!
Homo sapiens sapiens are the only surviving species left.

One of the most popular human species that died off was Neanderthals that dominated Europe while the current Homo sapiens sapiens dominated Africa.

There's one in Asia too.

Yes, we believers in God talk crap. I wonder how humans will have different species in some places. Which was/were the first organism/s that started evolving into another and how did it/they come into existence? Mind you, God created everything in the world in six days, even that organism that started evolving into another as science claims. God is Omnipotent!

chuna1985:
It takes millions of years for an evolutionary process to take place. U will live n die without witnessing it.

Every living thing evolves.

Will there be a difference b/w the humans that will evolve from primates in time to come and the humans that give birth to humans presently? The word of God is quite plain and simple on Adam being the first man created by God.

PAGAN9JA:
1. theory of men.
2.its a myth. Olodumare came before adam. prove me wrong.
3.Evolution is a gradual process. takes place over a span of 1000s of years . imho the evolution of different races and racial features is itself a sign of evolution among humans.
4.biblocal busllshyt .stories. never happened.

Yes the bible might contain bullshit stories but I believe them. Science cannot give accurate account of how humans begin existing in the world. They lay claims to natural selection and evolution to substantiate its theories. But the bibilical truth is very simple and precise, no assumptions, no change, no natural selection or evolution in the creation of man by God. It has remained unedited, and unchanged since the beginning of the world and will always remain so, no matter the scientific discoveries.

PAGAN9JA:
it was not one ape. there were groups of ape like ceatures. so in all probability.. there was no first human, but first HUMANS.

There is no probability in God's word. It is very prercise. God created Adam as the first man and Eve as the first woman. From both of them, all humans come into existence. Science cannot explain the number of people that evolved from these primates but gives speculations and assumptions.

PAGAN9JA:
there was no first man or woman.

If I understand you well, is it that there was no first man or woman according to the 'word of God' or according to 'science'?

amikedo1234567:
you said it all my fellow christian. Is a pity most of us go to church bt dnt realy study d bible. D bible said dat God created man in his own image nd likeness, so y doubting him after dis xplaination?

Thanks alot. We believe God's word even when we did not seen it happen. It is an act of FAITH and not of human reasoning or scientific discoveries.

Proffdada:
also if men had started from apes,today's population would've been 10 times higher because of the time span

I wonder how men who came from these primates would look like. As far as I know, I am created in the image of God and never evolved from any animal.

OrigamiIII:
I believe Adam was the first prophet and first jew/"moslem" but definitely not the first man.

This is ur own belief. As a christian, I stand where the word of God stands of Adam being the first man created by God.

[quote author=MostRanking post=35235734][/quote]Bro. U are very funny in ur answer of Adam Oshiomole

Olarewajub:
I've not lived in Anambra before.

Ok. I just mistook u for someone. Nevertheless I will still continue with my spiritual peeps.

Olarewajub:
What state? Any heard from Socialcruise?

Anambra. What do u mean by 'socialcruise'?

Olarewajub:
I saw you peeping and you know peeping ain't allowed. i'm not sure you know me.

Hahahahaha. Sorry for the physical peeps. I will go through it spiritually. It is just that this thread is quite a funny one. Ur name suggests someone I know in my Sec. Sch,. days.

Olarewajub:
Barnabaseloka ?

Have I committed any offence? Ur name suggests a person I know. Am I right?

HopeAlive14:
Your write-up is quite insightful, thanks for truths revealed.

I have often wondered if there is any Pentecostal Church in Nigeria that is not of one man leadership!

Thanks for the compliments.
Yes, there are few (minimum) churches who still hold on to this new testament bibilical system of leadership. It is somehow not so easy for one to oversee his family (maybe of 6 people). How much more overseeing about 1000 people? This is why there is need for more than one person to be at the helm of affairs as 'pastors' and not just one man 'Senior pastor or GO or GS' in any particular church. No pastor is greater than the other in any church for this is the way it has to be.

italo:
From what you're saying, St. Paul was saved - (repented, believed, was filled with the Holy Spirit) yet his sins were not washed away...

...Until he was baptized.

Acts22:16 "Get up, be baptized, and have your sins washed away, calling on his name."

Final advice to you as a friend:
Ask God to give you the spirit of knowledge and understanding to see beyond the words used in the Scriptures This helps you to compare scripture with scripture to get balanced understanding of a matter. The way you interprete the scripture here shows your level of understanding. You are in dire need of the Holy Spirit and not human reasoning. I am still a student under the Holy Spirit, but with a more open heart than yours to understand and learn from others. Have a nice day!

Ubenedictus:
oh, Calvin is the guy who originated the doctrine of once saved always saved he also originated the doctrine of born again before baptism. He was the creator of reformed theology and the father of the reformed churches. He was the first person to teach what you are teaching today, you can read up on him. The doctrin you teach is a relative new doctrine in Christendom merely 400yrs old. Calvin is the fount of the doctrine you have been trying to explain.

Baptism is not a replica of what had already happened, instead in baptism were were joined to Christ and became sharers of his death, it isn't some mere symbol, if it were Paul wouldn't have taught that when we were baptised we were baptised into Christs death. It isn't some symbol of a past event, it isn't a remembrance, it is a present reality whereby God unites us to the death of Christ and grants us new life.

I have told you that I do not wish to know who Calvin was? I believe the word of God and not him. I accept aanything he had said that goes in line with the word of God.
Newness of life comes at the point of being born again not during baptism. 2 Corinth. 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ he is a new creation, old things have passed away; behold all things have become new.

Ubenedictus:
read it again

he say we were baptised into Christ an thus baptised into his death and resurrection and into a new life.

There is nothing like "symbol" there unless you have manufactured you own bible.

All my own are discussing realities like been partakers in Christ death and resurrection in baptism. It didn't say "you died in Christ before you were baptised" or "baptism is a symbol of your dying in Christ"
this is what it says

You cannot have forgotten that all of us WHEN WE WERE BAPTISED INTO Christ were baptised into his death" I agree with Paul, when I was baptised into Christ I was baptised into his death. I died with him when I was baptised in him, not before.

I chose what scripture says above
Calvin.

I do not doubt the truth that one has died and risen with Christ during baptism. But what saves one is the believing on the name Jesus.

Ubenedictus:
sorry you are again reading into that passage insead of read out of it.

Annanias said he came to for the restoration of Paul sight and so he may be filled with the spirit, no where does that passage say he was filled with the holyspirit before he was baptised.

Instead the teaching the bible gives is "believe and be baptised...so you may receive the holyspirit the promised of God".

What of those who believed, received the Holy Spirit and were baptized?
From the words of Ananias, it is clearly seen that Paul, received his sight, was filled with the Holy Spirit and became baptized.
Cornelius and his household believed and received the Holy Spirit, before baptism.