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Christianity Etc › Re: No Christian Will Be Left Behind On Rapture Day : Parable Of The 10 Virgins by Barnabaseloka(m): 7:01pm On Jul 20, 2015

Op, you seem to amaze me!

Know that the story about the ten virgins was a parable and never happened. The lesson why this story was told by Jesus is seen in Mt.25:13 Watch therefore, for you know neither the day, nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming. Jesus was addressing both those that believed in Him, then, and those that will still believe (whether Jews or Gentiles), of the importance of being watchful over their lives.

In the parable, the five foolish ones never entered for the marriage feast (heaven). Note also that the ten virgins were brides of the bridegroom. Jesus is our bridegroom while those that have believed in Him are His bride. Not everyone who says he has believed in Jesus will enter heaven. It is only those who live their lives according to how God has commanded, through the scriptures, that will get into heaven. The rest that are careless over their lives, though they have given their lives to Jesus, will not enter heaven.

All the ten virgins had oil in their lamps. The five virgins had extra oil unlike the five foolish ones. The five wise virgins were ever watchful, sober and careful in all they did, even though the bridegroom was late. Their watchfulness and readiness at all times paid them at last. The five foolish ones were prepared on a short term basis. They were not watchful and ever-ready. That was why it took them unawares and they missed the feast.

Those that will be raptured are to be with Christ in heaven. And we know that nobody who lives in sin (whether believer or not) will be taken. This is b/c anything that is unclean will never possess the kingdom of heaven.

Lesson: As christians, we should be watchful over our lives, sober and ever-ready for the coming of our Bridegroom (Jesus). If not such a christian will miss out when He comes to take His people away.

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Christianity Etc › Re: No Christian Will Be Left Behind On Rapture Day : Parable Of The 10 Virgins by Barnabaseloka(m): 6:08pm On Jul 20, 2015

Op, you talked about 'once saved always saved'. My questions on this are:
1. What about those that were once saved i.e believed in Jesus but did not hold on to the end, such as Judas Iscariot, Dermas, Ananias and Sapphira and so on? Does it apply to them also?
2. If one has been saved and yet lives in sexual immorality, which is a sin, and dies in such lifestyle, will such a person go to heaven?
3. Why did Jesus say this in Luke 9:62 But Jesus said to him, No one, having put his hand in the plow, and looking back is fit for the kingdom of God?
4. Was Jesus not talking to believers here in Mark 13?
35. Watch therefore, for you do not know when the master of the house is coming- in the evening, at midnight, at the crowing of the rooster, or in the morning-
36 lest, coming suddenly, he finds you sleeping.
37. And what I say to you, I say to all: Watch.
5. Was Jesus serious when he said in Mt.18 from vs.6 that one should cut off the hand or foot or pluck out the eye that causes one to sin. If not the person will end up in hellfire?
FAITH (giving one's life to Christ) without WORKS (living a righteous life) is DEAD.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Right For A Man Of God To Have More Than 3 Private Jets by Barnabaseloka(m): 5:28pm On Jul 20, 2015

Irelokeh:
You've got a point here but i still think 4.5 billion naira times 4 is too much,what happened to

"lord bless me so much,others would take real part too?"

Bro. the money used in the purchase and maintenance of these private jets is too much. These 'pastors' live in luxury at the expense of their members, who are suffering and smiling.
All I have said is that these so called 'men of God' should go out and find jobs. Church is not a business centre, neither has working in the church become an occupation where you make money from the church offerings.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Pope Francis: God Has Instructed Me To Revise The Ten Commandments by Barnabaseloka(m): 5:19pm On Jul 20, 2015

If this is true, then, only christians who are spiritually blind will follow this strange teaching. The word of God remains unchanged, infallible and abides forever. Jesus clearly said in Mark 13:3 ...take heed that NO ONE deceives you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Right For A Man Of God To Have More Than 3 Private Jets by Barnabaseloka(m): 5:05pm On Jul 20, 2015

Any so called 'man of God' can own as many private jets as he wants. This is only if it is not from the money that comes into the church through offerings and donations, but from the money he makes through an occupation.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 4:24pm On Jul 14, 2015

Syncan:
Check that your post again and tell me if you talked about Paul's teaching also. Don't turn a blind eye there. Was circumcision issue not part of Paul's teachings?

I will not respond to the other posts because I no longer have the time for playing around.

I know that part of Paul's teaching to the gentiles was on circumcision. There is no doubt about it. But why did you allege that I stated it in my former post when I did not? You inferred what I wrote but did it wrongly by saying that I wrote it myself. When you infer what someone says, it is from your own perespective as regards how you understand such posts. This is what I had wanted you to come to terms with but you failed to admit it. Inference is allowed, but do not say that it is who you have inferred that wrote it, unless it is so.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 3:55pm On Jul 14, 2015

Barnabaseloka:
I know that Bereans christians are gentiles and so Paul must have taught them that there was no need for them to be circumcised.

What you did to defend yourself was to lay hold on this post. Did I not write series of posts before I wrote this? Was it not when I tried to make you see where you inferred me wrongly that made me post this? Did I write this before or after the issue of circumcision that you questioned me about?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 3:43pm On Jul 14, 2015*

Syncan:
Artful dodger, the berean Jews as stated in your post.

You answered Berean Jews. You went ahead to write that I stated it in my post. Here is the crux of the matter. The question is: Where did I state the issue concerning the Bereans and circumcision when I spoke of them and the way they searched the scriptures?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 3:38pm On Jul 14, 2015

Barnabaseloka:
Who?

To make it clearer, I asked you who?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 3:37pm On Jul 14, 2015*

Syncan:
Same people you were talking about in your post.

You can see the answer you gave me. Which people did I talk about in my post as regards circumcision? Did I make any mention that Paul talked about circumcision in my former post above? You were the one that tried to link what I wrote as regards Bereans with your question on cirsumcision.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 3:31pm On Jul 14, 2015*

Syncan:
When Paul told them there was no need for circumcision, which part of scripture did they check to confirm?

It was at this stage that you introduced the issue of circumcision, linking it to the statement I made concerning the Bereans above.

That prompted me to ask you the people you were referring to. See your reply below.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 3:30pm On Jul 14, 2015*

Barnabaseloka:
Some in Thessalonica believed while others did not. Some Jews, who caused the riot were only able to convince those who did not believe. Know that not everyone will believe the scriptures even when one is shown the truth from them.

What mattered to the Bereans was to see from the scriptures, whether OT or NT, if what Paul taught them were true. This is how christians ought to check the scriptures to see if what they are taught in church are true or not.

Here I talked about the Berean christians and their searching of the scriptures. I never said anything about circumcision as you alleged.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 3:28pm On Jul 14, 2015

Barnabaseloka:
Some in Thessalonica believed while others did not. Some Jews, who caused the riot were only able to convince those who did not believe. Know that not everyone will believe the scriptures even when one is shown the truth from them.

What mattered to the Bereans was to see from the scriptures, whether OT or NT, if what Paul taught them were true. This is how christians ought to check the scriptures to see if what they are taught in church are true or not.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 12:02pm On Jul 14, 2015

Barnabaseloka:
I know that Bereans christians are gentiles and so Paul must have taught them that there was no need for them to be circumcised.

Bro. did I write this post before or after you talked about Bereans and circumcision? Were you not the one that made the first statement concerning this, but alleged I said so? Was it not when I tried to make you see your wrong inference that I wrote the statements above?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 11:58am On Jul 14, 2015*

Syncan:
And this was my question: "When Paul told them there was no need for circumcision, which part of scripture did they check to confirm?"

The issue here is not about your question. It is your inability to admit that you inferred me wrongly. Instead of doing so, you have gone ahead to lay hold on one of my posts which came after your question, in order to exonerate yourself.
Syncan, was it before or after I wrote the last post you quoted that you asked the question above? Did I ever connect Bereans to circumcision before you asked the question above? Yet you turned around and claimed that I wrote something on this before you questioned me.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 9:56am On Jul 14, 2015*

Syncan, I hope you can merge the three posts directly above to get a clue of what I have been saying.. I needed to get you back to your ascertions before further discussions b/c you inferred me wrongly.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 9:54am On Jul 14, 2015

Syncan:
Artful dodger, the berean Jews as stated in your post.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 9:53am On Jul 14, 2015

Barnabaseloka:
Who?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 9:52am On Jul 14, 2015

Syncan:
When Paul told them there was no need for circumcision, which part of scripture did they check to confirm?

Christianity Etc › Re: If A 2month Old Baby Dies , Where Will He Go ? by Barnabaseloka(m): 6:42am On Jul 14, 2015

MizJanet:
Ok, they aint in heaven mayb u need to lecture stevencrack on this . So , Where are they presently ? Thats the question

i will stop here b/c I have not died to know where dead people are. It is not my business to know where they are kept. Nevertheless, the scriptures talk about the 'world of the dead' where the dead are kept, waiting for the resurrection day. All I can say is that the dead in Christ (babies inclusive) will be raised to life to be eternally with Christ in heaven. I will not explain further than this concerning where the dead are kept. It adds nothing so meaningful to my christian life.

Christianity Etc › Re: If A 2month Old Baby Dies , Where Will He Go ? by Barnabaseloka(m): 6:30am On Jul 14, 2015

dolphinheart:
Yes, I believe in ressurection

Ok. This settles it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 6:25am On Jul 14, 2015

Syncan:
I really thought I was gonna have a conversation with a Christian, little did i know I shouldn't be so sure. It was you who said the bereans searched scriptures to confirm what Paul taught them. Berean is a gentile city, and you know that Paul taught the Gentiles that circumcision is not needed, you know all these. But when I asked you to show me which scripture they searched to confirm a particular teaching of Paul which is "circumcision is not needed", you start to cry wolf where there is none. What is the need to show you where you said Paul taught the bereans that circumcision is not needed, when you said Paul taught them, is it not part of Paul's teaching? Did you specify anything Paul taught them? Stop making yourself a laughing stock to readers.

Yes I wrote berean Jews, thinking you even know what you're saying, but obviously you dont.

Syncan, the issue here is not whether Paul taught the gentile christians that they should be circumcised or not. It is your inability to admit that I did not say anything concerning the Bereans and circumcision, which you alleged that I did. When I demanded that you should bring out where I talked about it in my posts, you turned around saying I was crying wolf. I understand you but you have failed to show me from my posts where I wrote on your alleged statement.

I know that Bereans christians are gentiles and so Paul must have taught them that there was no need for them to be circumcised.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 11:18pm On Jul 13, 2015

Syncan:
I really thought I was gonna have a conversation with a Christian, little did i know I shouldn't be so sure. It was you who said the bereans searched scriptures to confirm what Paul taught them. Berean is a gentile city, and you know that Paul taught the Gentiles that circumcision is not needed, you know all these. But when I asked you to show me which scripture they searched to confirm a particular teaching of Paul which is "circumcision is not needed", you start to cry wolf where there is none. What is the need to show you where you said Paul taught the bereans that circumcision is not needed, when you said Paul taught them, is it not part of Paul's teaching? Did you specify anything Paul taught them? Stop making yourself a laughing stock to readers.

Yes I wrote berean Jews, thinking you even know what you're saying, but obviously you dont.

Keep on hurling insults at me in a mild way. You alleged I wrote something yet could not bring it out from my posts. When I requested you to show it to me, you turned around to say that I was crying wolf. If I leave you to go on, you will infer me wrongly again. The matter is: where you not the one that brought in the issue about the Bereans and circumcision which you said i did? Did you not do it so that I can show you how they searched the scriptures on it?
I will ask you this question again: Can you show me from my posts where I wrote about Bereans and circumcision which you alleged that I did?
Take it easy Syncan. I will answer your questions, but first of all clear the air on the question above.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 6:51pm On Jul 13, 2015

Syncan:
I am sure people can see beyond your play acting mr man. This is what you said below:

The issue now is, What did Paul teach the Bereans? Now hear yourself:

Berean is in Greece, a Gentile region. If you say Paul taught the gentile Christians that there is no need for circumcision, as seen above, what are you quarreling about if i imply that he taught the Bereans that circumcision is not needed, are Bereans not Gentiles?

You keep twisting issues here. I know Bereans are gentiles, yet it is not the issue at hand now. The simple question is: Did I say anything that talked about Bereans and circumcision? Were you not the person that connected it to Bereans, and went ahead to lay claim that I made reference to it? Was it not when you linked Bereans and circumcision that I wrote on Gentile christians and circumcision? I am ready to answer your questions, but show me where in my posts I talked about Bereans and circumcision as you claimed I posted.

You tried to impose on me what I did not write so that you would argue a point. I hope you remember I asked you who you were referring to when you mentioned the issue of circumcision? You wrote Berean Jews. Now, you have turned around to claim that I did.

Christianity Etc › Re: If A 2month Old Baby Dies , Where Will He Go ? by Barnabaseloka(m): 5:03pm On Jul 13, 2015

MizJanet:

The best question you should ask yourself is : if babies go to heaven , how can jesus claim no man has gone to heaven since many human babies are there ? Is that not making Jesus a liar ?

Any human being (babies inclusive) that dies awaits the resurrection day. It is not that the babies are in heaven, but that they will go to heaven after they have been resurrected, alongside other believers in Christ. I hope this answer has pacified you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 4:53pm On Jul 13, 2015

Syncan, I was very careful to ask you who you were referring to as regards circumcision. You wrote that they were the Bereans. From the above posts, can you show me where I talked about Bereans and circumcision which you said I was referring to?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 4:45pm On Jul 13, 2015

Barnabaseloka:
I did not write anything about the Berean Jews and circumcision. Go back and check my post.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 4:44pm On Jul 13, 2015

Syncan:
Artful dodger, the berean Jews as stated in your post.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 4:43pm On Jul 13, 2015

Barnabaseloka:
Who?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 4:42pm On Jul 13, 2015

Barnabaseloka:
Who?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 4:41pm On Jul 13, 2015

Syncan:
Same people you were talking about in your post.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by Barnabaseloka(m): 4:41pm On Jul 13, 2015

Syncan:
Same people you were talking about in your post.

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