Mr_Anony:
Lol, so Jesus is also the First and Last yet He is not God?

No, even John 10:30 jesus says "I and the Father are one." does that makes jesus the same/equal person to God?

okay if so, the same words used here, just the same way 'first and the last' was used for both God and christ,this time around,'Believers too are of the oneness of God and christ, so are believers equal with God?, will hypocrisy allow you to reason here or you will just ignore! see it again;

John 17:21

"Father,[size=14pt] just as you are in me and I am in you.[/size] May [size=14pt]they also be in us[/size] ]so that the world may believe that you have sent me".

so that the world (including My Anony)may believe that [size=16pt]you(God) have sent me(jesus)[/size]

but Oga jesus, Mr Anony said you lied about that! can you open his inner eye pls!

John 14:28

28 “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

Mr Anony said jesus is not! fighting scriptures!

the land still up for sale!

@3strike

tell us more about ogombo. is it not the same ogombo where the families are still fighting on the lands? what ruling family is selling this land?

Im surprised about what you said above! honestly,there is no doubt that there was a history of disputes over land in Ogombo many years back, just like every other places in lagos, but it has been settled amicably! people are buying land and building on it right now without harrasement, we lived and carry on our business there peacefully, our electricity there is the best as eti-osa is concerned in terms of consistency, you can verify that, and i lived there for the past 6 yrs with no record of one unrest,and have handled properties there without fear or favour! expecially when the modern police station was built, it helps a lot to combat any form of unrest.

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@zippadoc

Do you have pictures of this property?

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property is still up for sale!

Bluetooth, I salute your devotion to this thread and vehement skepticism. But I find it difficult to understand the case you make. Yes, I agree you have a position, the basis of which I do not know; bitterness, intelligence, sharing another faith or whatever. The issue I have with you is that you have not made any case at all, analysing the claim and telling us why you think it is a lie. I made a case on page 4 and you may want to consider that. However, never see this as a brain contest or religious fanatism. I am of the opinion that you let us have your strong reason. To help you, let me quickly point out certain details you may have over looked:
1. The act of driving without fuel was not premeditated. Attempts to act and think normal failed. ie. finding fuel.
2. In the moment of desperation, help came. It may not be scientifcally understandable or logical to internalise but it happened.
3. Personal testimonies like this could have come in the passing not to hoodwink just like a lawyer in the law court makes a case and presents myriads of references of decided suits. It must not be mistaken for self adoration.
4. I believe you think this event is recent but I differ. You may need to go back and read between the lines. The timing is not recent; that would be the only reason he would have driven him. It is the days of little beginning.
5. For any conclusion to be drawn about any man, you probably need to consider his/her antecedents. For those who believe without verifying, it is because they already know him as a man of integrity and unassuming. If you I know you are truthful and have had 20 encounters with you without disappoints, then why should I contest you representation any other time? A leopard cannot change its skin.
6. Believing miracles is convincingly personal. That you do not believe today may not mean you will never believe. I am sure all you need is a convincing evidence beyond any reasonable doubt. That does not come from a limited thought process but a profound high level of understanding that can come from an open mind. You receive only if you open your hand!

Just think about this point but you are entitled to your views as others on this platform but the loudest voice is not adjudged the right correct answer.

pls stop beleiving these!

pastor Adeboye is lying pls accept it, you may have loved him so much but he is capitalising on that,
lets see what the bible says vs Adeboye

Matthew 7:15-29
New King James Version (NKJV)

You Will Know Them by Their Fruits

15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.

pastor Adeboye looks gentle, but what fruit does he produce?

# expensive university.....not affordable by the poor!
# expensive jets in the midst of half-hungry church, something jesus will not do, or aquire as a way of life! jesus personally washed the legs of his apostles, and says that,it is an example of 'who' wants to lead them to be their 'servants' .......'NO CLASS DISTINCTION'

is miracle the same as doing Gods will?

vs 21;
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, [size=14pt]‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’[/size]

unfortunately Adeboye's porpoted miracles are not the same as doing Gods will, neither does it requested as sign of Gods favour,

Adeboye robed the poor! instead of giving them their dues, according to the bible, he was greedy buying jet.

2 Corinthians 8:13-15


13 For I do not mean that others should be eased and you burdened; 14 but by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may supply their lack, that their abundance also may supply your lack—that there may be equality. 15 As it is written, “He who gathered much had nothing left over, and he who gathered little had no lack.”[a]

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[size=14pt]Land titles[/size];

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@Vicrobor

You say you are a JW, and you don't engage in loud prayers. I wonder if you have read one of the watchtower Society publications 'KNOWLEDGE THAT LEADS TO EVERLASTING LIFE' on page 116 there was this man a JW to be that was being harrassed by demons and the book advised to pray aloud.

pray aloud in what circumstance?

yes,the man (a proposed and interested individual who wants to become a JW) harrassed by an alledged evil spirit from cote d'vior was advised to 'in an event of hearing the strange voice' that he normally encounter strangely, that 'he should call on Gods name loudly' citing proverbs 18:10 that ''the Name of God is a refuge,that the righteous ran into,and was saved''

does this particular 'rare instance of a one off, a standard recommended for prayer by the book'? noo, if you read further, after the man was relieved of the strange voice there is no mention of further prayers with loud utterances from the man, neither does the man makes 'loud prayer a standard'.a one-off situation cannot be a reccomended standard of praying.

it would have been superflous for jesus to render this verse as a reccomended standard for his followers;

mathew 6:7

But[size=18pt] when ye pray, use not vain repetitions[/size], as the heathen [do]:[size=18pt] for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.[/size]


pls dont misquote the book!

The Point here is that, even though jesus in a particular occasion,….. a ‘one off’ and NOT his usual practice of praying when he prayed with tears,
but he laid an example or commands a standard of praying for his followers, stated clearly below;
Matthew 6:5 And when thou prayest, [size=18pt]thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are[/size]: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. [size=18pt]Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.[/size]

Mat 6:6: But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret, and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.


Mat 6:7: But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.


Mat 6:8: Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

We are to follow what jesus commands, and not a ‘one off situation that was not commanded!
bible does not contradict pls, follow jesus commands!

@Horus,

if paul can be ridiculed by scoffers, now you want to toy with people getting alert with the day of the lord,

read the same event you are causing now as it happened to paul;


2 Peter 3:1-5


3 Dear friends, this is now my second letter to you. [size=18pt]I have written both of them as reminders to stimulate you to wholesome thinking[/size]. 2 I want you to recall the words spoken in the past by the holy prophets and the command given by our Lord and Savior through your apostles.

3 Above all, [size=18pt]you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water.[/size]

anyone who has ears should listen,...DONT JOIN SCOFFERS' they are lovers of pleasures rather than God!

Aaaah
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maybe poeple with PHOBIA of the endtime sees this as a relief, read this;

2 Timothy 3:1,4


But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, [size=18pt]lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, [/size]

@Horus

the Jehovah’s Witness’ had a leader that was also considered “a Christ.” (A fake christ). That leader being Charles Tazzil Russell who founded the sect in 1870. When he was dissatisfied with Christianity as it was, he organized his first bible study class. Six years later, in 1876, he elected himself “pastor.” In 1879 he sold his interest in a clothing firm and began printing “The Watchtower” semi-monthly. By 1884, his “Zion’s Watchtower and Bible Society,” was incorporated in Pennsylvania and in 1908, he moved his headquarters from Pittsburgh, PA to Brooklyn, NY. Russell claimed to be the seventh angel mentioned in the book or Revelation. He said that the other six were men. He predicted the end of the world several times! 1874, 1876, 1914, 1916, and 1918, each time stating that word came to him from the creator whom he called Jehovah.

you are a liar! russel never predicted, or at anytime equate himself with jesus,can you bring a proof of your claim? not hearsays or dubious links but online jws authentic or scanned copies of jws watchtower or pubs of the predictions?

based on the event of war then, which jesus warned his disciples to beware, many thought of this as an end, see assemblies of God church;

[size=14pt]they relied too on the event of 1914 and proclaimed this too in 1917[/size] for the end to come,in that The Weekly Evangel, an official publication of the Assemblies of God, ( May 13, 1916 pp 6-9 etc)

they later changed in the later edition to [size=14pt]1934 and 1935 [/size]respctively; (April 10, 1917 edtion, page 3)

many religion are credited with this in that period!

the bottomline here is,[size=14pt] since there is no oversabi! of the 'day' and 'hour', prediction traced to jws, they are in tune with what jesus say....[/size] and if you have a proof of where the prophecied a day in a particular week or month in a year agaist jesus assertions,you can bring them on

Matthew 24:42 "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.
Matthew 24:43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into.
Matthew 24:44 So you also must be ready,[size=18pt] because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.[/size]
Mark 13:33 Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come.

@ Horus, are you alert? or how do you want people to be alert without pointing to events same with that of luke 21:10? when you hate beign told to be at alert, but see that as spoilers of your fun, then continue in your ways, Gods day is not only ones end, Death is an end in itself, but do you ask yself, are you alert,and doing What God wants?

keep remmiting tithe and offerings as long as you can, keep singing double-double!, but how the money will be spent? JUDGE NOT! TOUCH NOT MY ANNOITED! OK?

many artists of old school are very skillfull and got something to offer,

as i wacthed Dr moses uwaifo, at sevety something he still dazzles with his guitar strings, 'joromi' was the title of the song he carefully sang by introducing the sound with his guitar,(a popular song used for STAR LAGER advert), the original album was realesed in 1965, and the album 'joromi' still sounds with sense at 47.

Also Dr moses Olaiya, with his sax, at LTV when he staged his 50 yr on stage was skillfull and known with his sax.

King sunny Ade, a skillfull guitarist still dazzles with his dancesteps and still plays his guitar on stage in occassions, his first album Alaanu loluwa, realesed since 1966 still sounds fine.

Bright Chimezie 'okoro junior' his music filled with instrumentals are sweet to reckon with. such as 'respect africa' 'i got the rhythm'.

Onyeka Onwenu, 'one love' still remain a good hit till today.

Sir shina peters, Afro juju ace,1990 ..22yrs ago still sounds fine and can be used for any occassion

few old school mentioned among many,

what has happened to our music that upholds value? what we have NOW is noise! incoherent words! values suffer with these modern music! hell is let loose, and youths are out of the hook!

good, they make more money today, the flaunt money, but many of the so called modern musicians cannot play insruments like guitar,keyboard or sax, they write song for them,they program their beatings, guitar keyboard are directed without the knowledge of the so called musician, then what we see is to swag troussers and some demostrations that do not even explain the music but to form! good for them, its what they want.

i think there should be a level playing field here,while you have the hip hop and rap,then let reasonable musicians be, promote them so new artists who want the old school pattern will no be frustrated,

musicians like Lagbaja, Asa, shola allyson, and many others whose music are sanitised should be given a chance.

@true2God

Note pls the changes that your church (assemblies of God) are responsible for;

[size=14pt]they prophecied 1917[/size] for the end to come,in that The Weekly Evangel, an official publication of the Assemblies of God, ( May 13, 1916 pp 6-9 etc)

they later changed in the later edition to [size=14pt]1934 and 1935 [/size]respctively; (April 10, 1917 edtion, page 3)

who is guilty of changing predictions and doctrines now, true2God, answer me! can you see how you could easily fall into what you accuse someone with?

and by the way you were busy throwing missiles with an accusation that has no relevance to the topic during the course of proving that jesus is the Archangel micheal, you never contributed, but just to distract,you will skip like 10 pages and just peep through the window and say something,off you go again, the pages kept increasing to such an extent that you dont even know the page that you were beign named or dubbed 'a she'! and to your surprise, we were able to get the conclusion,many honest ones agreed, not about winning argument,but to the glory of God, no one is a monopoly of knowledge,but how can one discribe an unfocused entity like you? so, i have to make you eat your vommit by showing you that on pg 20, you actually admmitted worshiping and a bonafide member of 'the assemblies of God church' but you seemed not to have check their embarrassing past,and if you do,are you not a hypocryte? anyway as im ready to load you. note this pls;

im sure that you will not be able to answer these changes in predictions for your church!

continued

gst101

if they do not want to celebrate any thing its their choice. What i dont like about them is their attempt to force others to take their idea which is fueled by misinterpretations, misconceptions, misinformation, hatred and bigotry.

attempt to force others to take their idea

can you prove these alledged attemts, and lets us evaluate what you term as 'force it on others' its a serious allegation! im interested in the use of force, pls prove it, im waiting!

Omolola1

Omolola1: If JW's do not believe in new year, then they shouldn't observe the public holidays, dec 25_26 and Jan 1. They shouldn't even accept christmas bonuses that would be given to them at work.
Yet most JW's do this!

observe the public holidays

What you call public holidays , for majority of the Jws, they see it as an opportunity to preach,ok? they use the so called holiday to switch to another work; treasuring spiritual treasures 'in heaven' by engaging in house to house preaching! not a double-double-single ecomium literal prosperity campaign but a practical work in mathew 24:14!

shouldn't even accept christmas bonuses that would be given to them at work

im sure bonuses is a 'function of work' and if you are not putting your time and effort to work for an org, you cannot receive pay, to the company, there is nothing like christmas bonuses, maybe end of a calendar yr bonus, but since many see it as an opportunity to use the money for xmass, they tag it xmass bonus, and that remain their own opinion! end of a calendar yr bonus is a 'function of ones work' in a gainfully employed org.

@gst101

So you dont think that "how he died for your sins and how you can remember him, if thats what the spirit tells you when you read those passages, is worth celebrating.

yes its worth celebrating!

even more than celebretion! but billions celebrating jesus birth today will easily not remember jesus in their everyday dealings, by freely-forgiving, not retaliating evil-for-evil, cheating, fornicating,slave for money rather than slave for christ because you cannot have two masters,so many choose slaving for money and despise christ, they loved money than their brothers, so what are you cellebrating? then ask yourself ....is celebrating jesus birth(which is not commanded) superceeds keeping his commands? will jesus be happy with those mere formalties?

ok, if you chose to celebrate the birth on Dec 25th, then can you say how old jesus was from his birth on the dec 25th, that jesus is..... 200yrs, 300yrs, 2,020yrs?,2,025yrs or 2,030 can you quickly mention precisely his age from that 25th of ?.

can you see now, that you do not even care to know the age of the celebrant!

WHAT IS MISSING IN WHAT WE CELLEBRATE IS 'THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO' God was very meticulous with the lifestyle and celebration of his people then when this was penned down;

Jeremiah 7:23

but I gave them this command: [size=14pt]Obey me[/size], and I will be your God and you will be my people. [size=16pt]Walk in all the ways I command you[/size], that it may go well with you.

1 Corinthians 4:6-

Now brothers and sisters I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying: DO NOT GO BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN....

this was also re-echoed in the NT (plappvile quoted earlier);

1 Corinthians 4:6-

Now brothers and sisters I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying: DO NOT GO BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN....

Many who felt that they do things to 'praise God' without his command were dealt with;

king Saul seperating big bulls for sacrifice for God from a land detestable to God, lets see what samuel has to say to saul on that;

1 samuel 15:22

But Samuel replied:[size=14pt] "Does the LORD delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as much as in obeying the voice of the LORD?[/size] To obey is better than sacrifice, and to heed is better than the fat of rams.

other examples like king David beautifying the Ark of covenant without Gods command leads to the death of uzzah, a levi, until it was returned to status quo!

so, let us see what jesus commanded(an authority from jesus permmiting a celebration on his behalf) ;

Luke 22:19

19 And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.”

this was also re-echoed by paul in NT;

1 corinthians 11:24

and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, "This is my body, which is for you; [size=14pt]do this in remembrance of me.[/size]"

when i read the scripture, i can see a celebration.

"suddenly, angels appeared from heaven singing glory to god in the highest and peace on earth to people of good will" (luke 2:13-14). So, on every 25th december when christians gather to praise god for the gift of a savior, be sure that God puts on his dancing shoes and he rejoices with them

''angels appeared from heaven singing glory'' does this statement authorises christians? no, the heavenly hosts including the angels are following Gods command,as they unfold in the birth of jesus,

so as humans, we should follow Gods Command and AUTHORITY, also work with his standards as written in the bible in oureverydaylife, we do not want to walk as if we are in the Dark. but PRINCIPLED ONES!

@true2God

If ur organization keep changing doctrines frm time to time (errorneously teaching the light is getting brighter), wat is the assurance dat they wont change the current beliefs in ten yrs time wen anoda light becomes brighter? Is ur organization consistent with bible beliefs/teachings? Is there always rooms for modifications of doctrines anytime it seems convenient for dem to do dat?

you dodge this NEXT post twice, and its popping up again, this is not about fraudulent individuals in your church MILKING THE GULLIBLE and your church is so IMPOTENT to deal with it but folds its arm, now, your church COLLECTIVELY have these credited to them; FAILED PROPHECIES BY ASSEMBLIES OF GOD CHURCH(your church) ...its there all over even in wikipedia,

one by one im ready to face you with your failed prophecy;



1, During World War I, The Weekly Evangel, an official publication of the Assemblies of God, carried this prediction: "We are not yet in the Armageddon struggle proper, but at its commencement, and it may be, if students of prophecy read the signs aright, that Christ will come before the present war closes, and before Armageddon...The war preliminary to Armageddon, it seems, has commenced." (April 10, 1917 edtion, page 3).
Other editions speculated that the end would come no later than [size=14pt]1934 or 1935[/size] ( May 13, 1916 pp 6-9 etc)

These predictions failed.

true2God we are waiting for your answer,pls.

@plappville

true2God says that SHE IS NOT A WOMAN, do you agree with that?

FYI, im a man and not a woman.

he seemed not to know when he lost out like Esau! ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaa!

@chukwudi44

Bunchh of deluded fools.Even the useless op is more deluded than the the idiotic watch tower guys? Where on earth was Jesus described as an angel? Moronic human elements.

you ran away when it matters most in page 7-11, your church cannot settle 3 billion dollars suits due to your priests evil practices, 8 doiceese got their bankruptcy loan after using all churchs fund including 'appeasing purgatory death's fund' thereby abandoning catholics menbers deads in the purgatory, what an evil?

@true2God

Human scandals are individualistic, no country of organization or church, or family or race is completely free from scandals. .

so, Morris Cerullo an ordained Assembly of God Minister and a questionable Healing Evangelist is in 'scandal'? what a pity? but he is not beign brainwashed, so why is an assembly of God (where true2God can die for) an 'ordained minister for that matter' by a so called holy spirit be a fraud, and nobody is challenging him, but he is MILKING THE GULIBLE Assembly of God CHURCH CHAIII! 3 PRIVATE JETS, and true2God will be here condemnning tithe pastors for owning jets,although i do not support tithe fraud but for hypocryte true2God who was shamed by his pastors, let him cover his face in shame,cover your face in shame true2God

If all the disciples of Jesus are evil because we have a Judas among dem den i doubt the way u examine things

true2God, you never speaketh the truth, judas is just one of jesus apostles, but a fraudulent church like (assembly of GoD) LETS SEE MANY FRAUDULENT MINISTERS WHICH CANNOT BE LIKENED TO JUDAS, BUT A PLAGUE IN THE CHURCH

SEE FRAUDUENT LIST OF TRUE2GOD'S CHURCH FRAUDSTERS;

John Harris,
Morris Cerullo,
Jim Bakker,
Jimmy Swaggart
and
Karl Strader
are only the tip of the iceberg of many[b] scoundrels in the Assembly of God denomination who use the sheep for their own gain.

Then we have others like Dr. Henry J. Lyons,
Billy Ned
and Franklin to name a few.

TRUE2GOD,....CAN YOU ANSWER THE FRAUDULENT CASES OF THESE FRAUDSTERS ONE BY ONE AS I WILL HIT YOU WITH THEIR FRAUDS?

I have never inferred in any of my statements that I agree Jesus Christ is angel Michael.

He is not .

Jesus Christ is the Son of GOD , the Messiah and Christ.

Let us respectfully disagree on this point

prove it frosbel, must we wait for a year for you to prove 1 plus 1 = 2?

prove your statement agaist what i ask you in the previous page here is it again answer it one by one,then we proceed;



how do you conclude that jesus is not an angel? and was jesus ever 'refered to as an angel, and a God in the bible?

Remember, not everyone who comes to church is a full grown christian. The church really is a point of contact btw GOd and people, just like the temple of old. And most importantly, Gods eyes r trsinned on the sinner more than u can ever possibly understand

yes we know, but

If u drive away the scantilty dressed, then u will kill a core essence of the church.

what do you mean by drive away? if a kind advice to submit to Gods standard is too hard to take then such aperson have no business in Gods house, principles and standards have to be adhered to, like foreigners who value their stay abroad would adhere to rules of their alien country even more than their own country, because they value the relationship with the country!
so in a structured house of God,the oversight of correcting this type of thing is given to the older women in the church, lets read;
Titus 2:3-5

"Likewise, teach the older women to be reverent in the way they live, not to be slanderers or addicted to much wine, but to teach what is good. 4 Then they can urge the younger women to love their husbands and children, 5 to [size=18pt]be self-controlled and pure,[/size] to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God.

Gods arrangement is there in the bible, simplified, but many pastors choose to ignore it for selfish reasons!

They dress like dat for a purpose , trust women lol , they know hw to get what want and church is one of the right place to get dat.

but,if the pastors and overseers do not encourage that by shying away from the bible truth,they will not have the gut,it seems someone is promoting something to boost something selfish at the detriment of the christianity,isn'nt that funny? lets say the truth pls! church is not the right place, jezebel was thrown from a widow,and her beatiful body was consumed by dogs,its in the bible, jezebel is the one known for such provocative dressing and she got what she bargained for, why are pastors shying away from telling the truth as it were? funny enough it is widely condemed in their own bible as quoted above, but then they mute up!

@image123

we're waiting frosb, don't tell me you're keeping malice with Jesus? He'll answer you if you are not shy and you ask Him right.

are you jesus? how do you know what jesus would say? tell us what YOU have to say!

Our christian sisters will do well to consider these few quotes from their own personal bible before going to the house of God;

1 corinthians 8:9;
[size=18pt]Be careful, however, that the exercise of your freedom does not become a stumbling block to the weak.[/size]

1 Peter 3:3..... "Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes" Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight.


1 Timothy 2:9... "I also want women to [size=14pt]dress modestly, with decency and propriety"[/size],

1 Timothy 2:10.... "but with good deeds, [size=14pt]appropriate for women who profess to worship God[/size]".

it will go a long way to keep values, and not spread vices, may God help those who will be yielding to these, thanks!

He is not Angel Michael , period !!

how do you conclude that jesus is not an angel? and was jesus ever 'refered to as an angel, and a God in the bible?

@frosbel

i dey laugh here oo

Wrong, I just saw no point in arguing further.

Jesus Christ is the Messiah, the Christ and Son of GOD.

He is not Angel Michael , period !!

The way you are going, if the government allowed you , you will start rounding up people who disagree with you and burning them at the stake , lol.

these are forcefull rebuttals without a single scripture to support it frosbel, shall we start? should i prove to you? and will you humble enough for others (not me now)who might also want to learn from you, will you reply? so that i can start now!

Hmn, frosbel is still not in agreement, he is shaking his head.

he doesnt need to be forced to agree! i took my time to single handedly treat his objection one-by-one,but he could not raise further question,so if he still have a reason or an objection to any of my post on this issue,im still ready! so his agreement or not does not alter the truth as proven on the tread! and it takes humility to empty yourself,and drop your pride to agree with the truth,
frosbel ignored 7 good 'detailed' posts of mine which would have cleared his objections! i guessed that he just want to remain that way,and we need to respect his right to do so as well.

i must commend all,who contributed immensely to this conclusion at least for now, we are in agreement, Plappvile,Truthislight,ijawkid,quaray Togun and others and Boomark , all of you have been very wonderfull!

dont mind me engaging true2God that way, i knew he wanted to derail the tread while contributing nothing, so i have to keep him busy while we are also focused and we achieved that.

at the OP

you know when someone is doing good things or contributing to a good course,he or she will not even know how potent his contributions are,

your tread entered 40 in less than 40 days,

OLAADEGBU's 493 topics since 2010, not even one has ever hit 40!(olaadegbu came in here with a cartoon,he was jealous,but he hates our truth)

we persevered to this level, all of us listed above never knew each other and remained anonymous to each other,but because we loved the truth, and can you see how far it was sustained? note that its not that we are used, but because your tread was sanitised, we choose to stay, good for you too! i believe that you have learn one or two things

thanks all.