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Properties / Re: UNCOMMON Opportunity! In OGOMBO! 1 Plot For 3.8 Million! Close To The P/station by BARRISTERS: 9:17am On Oct 12, 2014
tonyflez:
@3strikes,

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tonyflex how are you

i will mail some property details to you, its very legitimate and at a good price
Religion / Re: 'ORDER OF MELCHIZEDECH' Deceptive Phrase, Used To Establish Fixed TITHE Today. by BARRISTERS: 7:41am On Nov 28, 2013
HOW CAN ABRAHAM TENTH PART TRIBUTE/TAX TO KING MELCHIZEDECK BE A BASIS FOR TITHING? WHEN WHAT WAS GIVEN WAS ON WAR SPOILS, AND NOT INCREASE ON FARM PRODUCE?

LEVITICAL PRIESTHOOD HAS BEEN ANNULLED HEBREW 7

CHRIST PRIESTHOOD DOES NOT NEED DAILY STORAGE OF OFFERINGS LIKE STOREHOUSE TITHING OF THE LEVI HEBREW 7:27

THE YOKE OF FIXED OFFERINGS HAS BEEN REMOVED BUT RATHER, GIVE ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU HAVE RESOLVE FROM YOUR HEART, DO NOT BE DECEIVED
Religion / 'ORDER OF MELCHIZEDECH' Deceptive Phrase, Used To Establish Fixed TITHE Today. by BARRISTERS: 11:12am On Nov 27, 2013


A MODERN DAY TITHE SUPPORTER WAS SAYING SOMETHING THAT THE BIBLE NEVER TEACHES ABOUT ORDER OF MELCHIZEDECK, SAYING THAT SOMETHING LIKE FILE AND RANK OF THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDECK, NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE TEACHES THAT

ANOTHER QUOTED BOOK OF PETER TALKING ABOUT ROYAL PRIESTHOOD, YET MELCHIZEDECH WAS NOT MENTIONED THERE.


THEN A MODERN DAY TITHE SUPPORTER ASK ME WHAT ORDER OF MELCHIZEDECK MEANS, ON THE THREAD THAT THE LINK APPEARS NEXT,

https://www.nairaland.com/1515072/law-levites-commandment-receive-tithe/4#19623009

MY REPLY IS


READ WHAT ORDER OF MELCHIZEDECK SIMPLY MEANS, SIMILITUDE OR LIKENESS OF IN THE SAME HEBREW 7:14-15

Hebrews 7
King James Version (KJV)

14 "For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood".

15 "And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest"

Hebrews 7
New King James Version (NKJV)

15 "And it is yet far more evident if, in the likeness of Melchizedek, there arises another priest"


THE ONLY UNIQUE THING ABOUT MELCHIZEDECK PRIESTHOOD WAS THAT HE DOUBLE AS BOTH PRIEST AND KING, AND IN LIKENESS OF THAT JESUS PRIESTHOOD IS BOTH AS KING AND PRIEST SIMILAR /SIMILITUDE/ TO MELCHIZEDECK PRIESTHOOD, SIMPLE

I HAVE BEEN ASKING THEM TO DEFINE THE ORDER OF MELCHZEDECK ON THIS LINK https://www.nairaland.com/1515072/law-levites-commandment-receive-tithe THEY CANT, BUT RATHER FLED

DEFINE THE ORDER OF MELCHZEDECK PLEASE IF YOU ARE A TITHE SUPPORTER WHO BELIEVES THAT WHAT ABRAHAM GAVE AS TRIBUTE TO MELCHIZEDECH IS NOT A TAX/TRIBUTE ACCORDING TO THE CUSTOMARY TRADITIONS EXPECIALLY WHEN IT WAS THE TENTH PART OF SPOILS THAT WAS GIVEN TO KING MELCHIZEDECH OF SALEM AS HE IS ENTITLED, FIRST AS A KING OF A COMMUNITY CALLED SALEM, AND SECOND AS AN APPOINTED KING OF GOD AND PRIEST OF GOD.

Religion / Re: (law) Levites Have Commandment To Receive Tithe, Pastors Tday Were Not Commanded by BARRISTERS: 1:03am On Nov 20, 2013
Goshen360: ^ As usual, talking so much, saying nothing. How does being Abraham's heirs according to promise correlate to tithing in Abraham's way? Do you also distribute the rest 90% as Abraham, if you following Abraham's example.

Scripture is very clear what connects us, Christians to Abraham - FAITH and NOTHING MORE.

GOD BLESS YOU FOR THE SUMMARY!

ADOPTION THROUGH MANIFESTATION OF FAITH DOES NOT JUSTIFY CONFUSING TAX/TRIBUTE OFFERING OF ABRAHAM TO TITHING
Religion / Re: (law) Levites Have Commandment To Receive Tithe, Pastors Tday Were Not Commanded by BARRISTERS: 1:46pm On Nov 18, 2013
@Kenny4lyfe

GOOD QUESTION

Dear Barrister, what do you say about this portion of the Bible in Galatians 3:29,

"And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed and heir according to the promise." [/color]

SEE THE BOLDED IN YOUR POST "heir according to the promise" WE NEED TO KNOW WHO THE PROMISED WAS MADE ORIGINALLY, AND HOW IT WAS EXTENDED

Galatians 3:16
16 Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,” who is Christ


Genesis 26

4.....and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;

5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws

We talk about tithing and you guys brought the question of genealogy, do you not know of the priesthood that's in Christ Jesus?

I KNOW, CHRIST PRIESTHOOD DOES NOT NEED A STOREHOUSE, WHERE TITHE OFFERINGS FIRSTFRUITS ARE KEPT FOR VARIOUS KIND OF OFFERINGS, CHRIST PRIESTHOOD DOES NOT NEED YOU TO DECLARE YOUR BANK ACCOUNT SO AS TO EXPOSE YOU TO BEIGN MANUEVER, IT IS CALLED (OBTAINING UNDER FALSE PRETENCE) JESUS HAD OFFERED HIMSELF ONCE AND FOR ALL, HE REMOVED THE YOKE OF GIVING FIXED OFFERINGS GRUDGINLY AND OF COMPULSION AS LEVITICAL TITHE DEMANDS; HEBREWS 7: 27 "who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself"



Who do you think God was talking to when He said throught the psalmist in Psalm 110:4 that,

"The Lord hath sworn and will not repent, thou hath a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek."

READ WHAT ORDER OF MELCHIZEDECK SIMPLY MEANS, SIMILITUDE OR LIKENESS OF IN THE SAME HEBREW 7:14-15

Hebrews 7
King James Version (KJV)

14 "For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood".

15 "And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest"

Hebrews 7
New King James Version (NKJV)

15 "And it is yet far more evident if, in the likeness of Melchizedek, there arises another priest"


THE ONLY UNIQUE THING ABOUT MELCHIZEDECK PRIESTHOOD WAS THAT HE DOUBLE AS BOTH PRIEST AND KING, AND IN LIKENESS OF THAT JESUS PRIESTHOOD IS BOTH AS KING AND PRIEST SIMILAR /SIMILITUDE/ TO MELCHIZEDECK PRIESTHOOD, SIMPLE[/font]

Jesus the Christ doesn't came to die for the Jew alone; For God so love the world that He gave His only begotten Son; that WHOSOEVER believeth in Him should not perish but have EVERLASTING LIFE. (John 3:16). In christianity there's neither Jew nor Greek
.

HEBREW 7:11

11 Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron

HAD IT BEEN THAT "perfection were through the Levitical priesthood" YOU AND I WILL STILL CONTINUE TO GET CIRCUMCISED AND ADOPTED INTO THE JEWISH SYSTEM ONLY IF YOU WANT TO BE CALL GODS SON. BUT THE ANNULMENT OF THE PRIESTHOOD OF LEVI, MEANS THAT IF YOU HAVE FAITH IN CHRIST YOU ARE ADOPTED AS PART OF ABRAHAM'S HEIR NOT BY INHERITANCE, BUT THROUGH FAITH

CAN YOU SEE NOW THAT SINCE YOU ARE NOT A JEW, YOU DONT HAVE ANY LINK WHATSOEVER WITH TITHING, YOUR ADOPTION IS BECAUSE YOU ARE ADOPTED AS A CHRIST FOLLOWER, WHILE JESUS IS THE TRUE SON OF THE SOIL, HE HAD A LINK AS A JEW, IT IS DIFFERENT FROM YOURS WHICH IS ADOPTION THROUGH FAITH.Galatians 3:16
16 Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,” who is Christ
Religion / Re: (law) Levites Have Commandment To Receive Tithe, Pastors Tday Were Not Commanded by BARRISTERS: 12:23pm On Nov 18, 2013
truthislight:

You will really like us to keep quiet so that you and your likes can milk those that for the sake of christianity go to your business centers where 5 times offerings are collected excluding sowing or seeds, and ofcouse, the preaching is all about money! Money!! Money!!!

Well, you miss fired, Jesus did not keep silent when the people of his days turned the temple of God to business center, he chased them away and cursed them, such action is what you all business centers deserved.

Your exploitation has made nonsense of legitimate means of earning a living and made greed the order of ther day why people steal and believe it is God that has opened up the way for them, hence, feeding corruption in the country.

Even the young men in Nigeria dont want to think and be creative again and do work but sees christianity as a means of easy money.

The rest sees it as a place to consult as an oracle can be consulted, and no longer the love for God and christ.

The damage that your counterfeit has done to the image of christianity is huge.

Just see all the out of scriptural posting you have been making here!

Is christianity all about making money ?

Is God/Yahweh a money making venture ?
What about loving God Just because he first loved us ?

Selfish greedy lots.

Keep on beging us to let you defraud people. Smh.

FRIEND, LONG LONG TIME, ITS BEEN A WHILE NOW!
Religion / Re: (law) Levites Have Commandment To Receive Tithe, Pastors Tday Were Not Commanded by BARRISTERS: 11:32am On Nov 18, 2013
CAN ANY OF THE TITHERS PLEASE, TELL US WHAT IS MEANT BY ..ORDER OF MELCHIZEDECK....

IT SEEMS THE ANSWER WILL EXPOSE THE LIES THAT OFTEN USED TO CONFUSE TITHING AND NORMAL TAX/TRIBUTE

CAN ANY TITHER DARE?
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Religion / Re: (law) Levites Have Commandment To Receive Tithe, Pastors Tday Were Not Commanded by BARRISTERS: 11:13am On Nov 18, 2013
BACK TO THE TOPIC


Pls quote me where I said Judah tithed to Abraham o!

OUR BUILD UP TO THIS WAS WHEN YOU QUOTED MALACHI 3:3-4

MALACHI 3:3-4


3 He will sit as a refiner and a purifier of silver;
He will purify the sons of Levi,
And purge them as gold and silver,
That they may offer to the Lord
An offering in righteousnes[/b]s.
4 “Then [b]the offering of Judah and Jerusalem
Will be pleasant to the Lord
,
As in the days of old,
As in former years.

NOTE WHO THE VERSE IS DIRECTED, "THE LEVI WILL BE PURIFIED, ...SO THAT THEY MAY OFFER OFFERINGS

3 "He will purify the sons of Levi,That they may offer to the Lord An offering in righteousnes"


OFFERING OF JUDAH AND JERUSALEM WILL BE PLEASANT.....
4 "the offering of Judah and Jerusalem Will be pleasant to the Lord,As in the days of old"

OBVIOUSLY, JUDAH AND JERUSALEM OFFERINGS HAS TO GO TO THE ALTER WHICH THE PURIFIED LEVITES OPERATES, NOTE THAT TRIBE JUDAH ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO OFFICIATE AT THE ALTER HEBREW 7:14.... "For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood"

YOU EXPLAIN THIS WAY

GOMBS: And see that it says (Mal 3v4), that He will accept the offerings of the people of Judah and Jerusalem ONCE AGAIN as he did in the past.

Question is...why Judah? Why Jerusalem?

The offerings in the latter days will be similar to those when the temple was first built
.

BUT I ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION, IF ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN TRANSLATION "The offerings in the latter days will be similar to those when the temple was first built",

WHY DID HEBREWS 7: 27 SAYS THIS ABOUT JESUS THAT .......

HEBREWS 7: 27 who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.

MY EMPHASIS IS ON DAILY NEED OF FARM PRODUCE, ANIMALS AND THE REST THAT PRIESTS OF LEVI WERE RECEIVING BY COMMAND IN VARIOUS WAYS,FIRSTFRUITS OFFERINGS, TITHE DUES, SIN OFFERINGS ETC,

AS YOU CAN SEE IN HEB 7:27 JESUS OWN SACRIFICIAL DEATH HAS CANCELLED THE NEED TO CONTINUALLY BRING FIRSTFRUITS OFFERINGS, TITHE DUES, SIN OFFERINGS AS A MUST

I NOTED YOUR REPLY, WHEN YOU SAID THAT JESUS DEATH IS MAINLY FOR THE REDEMPTION OF SIN, NO, BUT ALSO AMONG OTHER THINGS HIS DEATH STOPS THE BURDEN OF BRINGING THESE NEEDS TO THE PRIESTS FIRSTFRUITS OFFERINGS, TITHE DUES, SIN OFFERINGS ETC,HEB 7:27 "who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices".....


BUT RATHER
2 Corinthians 9:7

Each one of you should give just as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, because God loves a cheerful giver.


Pls show how the above means Judah paid tithes to Abraham!

IF JUDAH AND JERUSALEM WILL TITHE TO THE PURIFIED LEVITES IN THE FUTURE, WHICH MEANS LEVITICAL PRIESTHOOD AND TITHING CONTINUES! FORGET ABOUT SAYING SOMETHING LIKE (SIMILAR)

AND IF YOU SAY YOU TITHE IN FAITH OF ABRAHAM, YOU ARE AT LOGGERHEAD WITH THE FUTURE PURIFIED LEVITES PRIESTHOOD, BECAUSE THE DEFINATION OF ABRAHAM OFFERING TENTH PART, IS DIFFERENT FROM THE LEVITICAL TITHE, THAT IS THE IMPLICATION
.
Religion / Re: (law) Levites Have Commandment To Receive Tithe, Pastors Tday Were Not Commanded by BARRISTERS: 11:09am On Nov 18, 2013
G'MORNING EVERYONE,

@GOMBS;

IT WILL BE NOTED THAT YOU THREW THE FIRST INSULT AT ME, HERE IS IT,

GOMBS[/b]You obviously have dyslexia!

JUST TO REMEMBER YOU THAT YOUR PROPHECY CAUGHT UP WITH YOU EASILY;THAT ANTI-TITHERS RESORT TO INSULT, SEE YOUR PROPHECY ON PAGE 1;

[b]GOMBS; And nearly all anti tithers have something in common ...they might later on insult you and all they can lay hands on as the thread goes on. Its a prophecy from me!
THANK YOU FOR THAT, AT LEAST I HAVE NOT THROWN ANY INSULT ON YOU BEFORE NOW, YOU WILL AGREE WITH ME THAT THIS IS THE VERY FIRST TIME I WILL EVER ENGAGE YOU, NOW YOU CAME ON THE THREAD, YOU CANCEL POST AT WILL (AJAYIKAY), I WARNED YOU, YOU DID IT TO MY POST AGAIN, EXCHANGING WHAT DOES NOT RELATE TO THE OR PREVIOUS BEEF YOU HAD WITH SOME ON OTHER THREAD,

GOSHEN TOO SHOULD NT HAVE EXCHANGE THOSE INSULTIVE WORDS, WHY CANT WE KEEP TO THE TOPIC AND EXHIBIT SUPERIOR KNOWLEDGE? WHEN PEOPLE ARE NOT HAVING A SOUND EVIDENCES THEY USE INSULT AS TOOLS, PLS I WILL NOT WANT THIS THREAD TO BE USED TO FURTHER PREVIOUS BEEFS YOU HAD WITH ANYONE

IF YOU DONT HAVE THE PATIENT TO ACCOMODATE PEOPLE'S VIEW, YOU CAN BACK OUT PLS, BUT IF YOU ARE SO SURE OF YOUR CLAIMS SUPPORTING TITHING FIRE-ON, SO, WHAT IS WRONG IN ANSWERING A QUESTION TO DETAIL? NOBODY IS FORCING SOMEONE TO CHANGE HIS RESOLVE, BUT WE LEARN THROUGH EXHIBITION OF SUPERIOR KNOWLEDGE DEVOID OF INSULTIVE WORDS.

IM NOT A GENTLE MAN. GET THAT
Religion / Re: (law) Levites Have Commandment To Receive Tithe, Pastors Tday Were Not Commanded by BARRISTERS: 1:37pm On Nov 17, 2013
Gombs: Why are you even asking me whether I'm a Jew or a levite?

BECAUSE YOU SAID

We are the refined Priests......

And see that it says, that He will accept the offerings of the people of Judah and Jerusalem ONCE AGAIN as he did in the past


Told you I tithe in the faith of Abraham, is Abraham a Jew or Mechizedek a levite?

DID JUDAH TITHE TO ABRAHAM, YET YOU TITHE IN THE FAITH OF ABRAHAM, BUT YOU STILL TALK ABOUT JUDAH THAT TITHE UNDER LAW, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WHEN JUDAH WILL TITHE AGAIN , YOU STILL USE MALACHI TALKING ABOUT TITHING UNDER LAW TO SUPPORT YOU CLAIMS, CAN YOU SEE THE HYPOCRISY grin
Religion / Re: (law) Levites Have Commandment To Receive Tithe, Pastors Tday Were Not Commanded by BARRISTERS: 1:13pm On Nov 17, 2013
Gombs:

Answer me, will you get new crude oil from a refined crude oil?

Yes or No shd be fine

YOU HAVE SEEN THE ANSWER THERE, YOU ARE TRYING TO DERAIL MY THREAD, AND DIVERT TO SOMETHING NOT RELATING TO THE BIBLE, YET I ANSWERED.

MAN, CANT TRACE YOUR LINEAGE TO THE JEW, TALKLESS OF THE TRIBE OF LEVI.

BOOK OF MALACHI IS MAINLY FOR THE LEVITES

SEE IT

Malachi 2
New King James Version (NKJV)
Corrupt Priests
MALACHI 2

2 “And now, O priests, this commandment is for you.
2 If you will not hear,
And if you will not take it to heart,
To give glory to My name,”
Says the Lord of hosts,
“I will send a curse upon you,
And I will curse your blessings.
Yes, I have cursed them already,
Because you do not take it to heart.

MALACHI 3:6-9 NOTE ..O SONS OF JACOB, JACOB'S OTHER NAME IS ISREAL, HIS SONS FORM THE 12 TRIBES OF ISREAL, AMONG WHOM IS THE LEVI, THE PRIEST,

MALACHI 3:6-9

6 “For I am the Lord, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.
7 Yet from the days of your fathers
You have gone away from My ordinances
And have not kept them.
Return to Me, and I will return to you,”
Says the Lord of hosts.
“But you said,
‘In what way shall we return?’
Do Not Rob God

8 “Will a man rob God?
Yet you have robbed Me!
But you say,
‘In what way have we robbed You?’
In tithes and offerings.

LEVITES ARE OFFERING LAME ANIMALS ON THE ALTER,

MALACHI 1

6 “A son honors his father,
And a servant his master.
If then I am the Father,
Where is My honor?
And if I am a Master,
Where is My reverence?
Says the Lord of hosts
To you priests who despise My name.
Yet you say, ‘In what way have we despised Your name?’
7 “You offer defiled food on My altar,
But say,
‘In what way have we defiled You?’
By saying,
‘The table of the Lord is contemptible.’
8 And when you offer the blind as a sacrifice,
Is it not evil?
And when you offer the lame and sick,
Is it not evil?
Offer it then to your governor!
Would he be pleased with you?
Would he accept you favorably?”
Says the Lord of hosts
.

CAN YOU SEE THE FACTS NOW
Religion / Re: (law) Levites Have Commandment To Receive Tithe, Pastors Tday Were Not Commanded by BARRISTERS: 12:46pm On Nov 17, 2013
Gombs: ^^
This guy actually believe that after refining crude oil ...You get new crude oil!

Mo Gbe o!
grin grin

GO BACK AND SEE MY COMMENT AGAIN IN ITALICS,

NEW CRUDE OIL= SAME LEVI TRIBES PRODUCING NEW PERSONS FROM THEIR TRIBE

PRODUCING NEW PERSON(S) FROM THEIR TRIBE, CAN YOU SEE IT?

ANYTHING PRODUCED FROM CRUDE OIL STILL HAVE THEIR ROOT AS CRUDE OIL, DERIVED FROM CRUDE OIL, YOU CANT REFINE RED OIL FOR EXAMPLE AND HAVE PETROL, OR DIESEL, BUT RATHER ADIN OR ADIN-AGBON, EPO-DUDU ETC, YOU CAN TRACE IT TO ITS ROOT DERIVED FROM PALM TREE.

ARE YOU A JEW? NOW PROVE YOURESELF AS A JEW OF THE TRIBE OF LEVI, REFINED BUT STILL HAVE YOUR ROOT/LINEAGE AS A JEW


Religion / Re: (law) Levites Have Commandment To Receive Tithe, Pastors Tday Were Not Commanded by BARRISTERS: 12:09pm On Nov 17, 2013
[quote author=Gombs]
If you refine crude oil, will you get a new crude oil?
The way you reason makes me laugh o

LETS SAY WHAT YOU MEAN IS CRUDE OIL=LEVI TRIBES OF THE ISREAL WHO HAVE THE COMMAND TO RECEIVE TITHE

NEW CRUDE OIL= SAME LEVI TRIBES PRODUCING NEW PERSONS FROM THEIR TRIBE

SO, ARE YOU A JEWISH OF LEVI TRIBE? YOU CANT ANSWER THAT AGAIN YOU ARE NOT A JEW, STOP FORCING WHAT IS NOT YOURS ON YOURSELF







I laugh because you use a tithe rule that came 400years after Abraham has left the earth to jugde his tithe deed to Melchizedek....u dey try o!
Jesus paid tax, because that was the law of the day, then, they were under Roman rule.

I asked you, why didn't Abraham pay tax to King of Sodom? Abi that king no follow for authentic Kings?

BEFORE I ANSWER, DEFINE TITHE, IM SURE YOU CANT grin
Religion / Re: (law) Levites Have Commandment To Receive Tithe, Pastors Tday Were Not Commanded by BARRISTERS: 10:45am On Nov 17, 2013
Gombs:

Hello sir, you must be new here! Thank you for your conviction on tithing. However, never be swayed by any doctrine that discourages a form of giving to God. Never subscribe to it. Why? Because the Devil WILL NEVER tempt you to give in the House of God.

As regards trying to convince anybody who disagrees with tithing, you would just end up wasting your time.

What Goshen is telling you has been treated in over 1000pages of NL tithe threads. What Barrister and truthslight is asking me has been answered on this thread. All they do is recycle their post and questions.
That's why I leave viewers to decide on what road they wanna thread

For example, I've told him Jesus and his disciples left their Jobs and was in full time ministry...I asked him, whr did the monies that was in Judas' bag come from?
And he just said their was nothing like full time pastor in the New testament. I hope he could tell me what trade Peter and John had after following Jesus.

The good part of it all though is, they always find a way of shooting themselves in the foot grin
There is always inconsistency with them. For example, Goshen here said Melchizek was born of a woman and man, just that the bible did not record it! He also said the man was/is long dead and never resurected totally against what the bible said that Melchizedek has no beginning of day nor end of life.

www.nairaland.com/1456343/tithes-offerings-eternal-principles/22

But years back, same Goshen said Melchizedek had NO genealogical
Line and he is a priest forever.

www.nairaland.com/903159/really-melchizedek
(Hope he doesn't go and edit the post grin I don screen grab am sha grin)

In this thread, Drummerboy said Melchizedek had a 'religious capacity' , I asked him what religion? He also said Melchizedek is from the Order of Jesus!


Another folk here said Melchizedek was a king and was entitled to a tax, a tax which Abraham paid as tithe

Goshen also said Mal 3 was not for Christians even after it has been explained that the new creation folks were the refined priests Mal 3 was talking about. And how mal 3 talked about things of today!

I could go on and on and name the rest folks...

Why are they always inconsistent? Because, Jesus said whatsoever that is not planted by my father shall be uprooted! They can't keep consistency on what they say because it is not founded on the Word of God which is same yesterday, today and forever!
Ok, let's just say they made mistakes as in they didn't study well! grin (imagine)
They sadly fulfill this scripture

Romans 1 Amp

22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools [professing to be smart, they made simpletons of themselves].


I could go on and on. But, all I wanna say is, hold fast to what you believe in, hundreds of million of people who tithe are not dumb or less studious of the bible or too stoopid to think that tithing is abolished.


if you wanna argue with them, as you are new here, be careful, or to stay on the safe side, ignore them and watch them from afar. they will lay a snare for you, and when you fall, they will use it against your stand.

And nearly all anti tithers have something in common ...they might later on insult you and all they can lay hands on as the thread goes on. Its a prophecy from me! grin

Anyways! Have a happy sunday. And remain blessed

SIMPLE QUESTION I ASK FROM YOU YOU RAN AWAY! YOUR LONG POST ARE EMPTY AS YOU JUMP FROM ONE THING TO ANOTHER WITHOUT DEFINING THEM,

YOU SAID THAT YOU ARE THE NEW LEVI, ARE YOU A JEW?

1, HOW DO YOU BECOME A REFINED JEWISH PRIEST OF MALACHI 3? YOU CANT ANSWER THAT


2, WHAT IS THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDECK? YOU CANT ANSWER

3, BEFORE YOU OFFER SOMETHING YOU MUST HAVE RECEIVED IT, TELL US WAYS THAT PRIEST RECEIVE OFFERINGS, YOU WILL AGREE THAT THE OLD PRIESTS NEED ANIMALS, FOODSTUFFS ETC FOR OFFERINGS BUT HEBREW 7 :27 SAYS THAT (JESUS)........... "who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices".......

IF YOU ARE NOT HERE TO ARGUE CONSTRUCTIVELY BUT TRYING TO FORCE OPINION ON SOMEONE IN THIS AGE?

Another folk here said Melchizedek was a king and was entitled to a tax, a tax which Abraham paid as tithe

WHAT IS LEVITICAL TITHE? A TENTH PART OR TENTH PORTION OF INCREASE IN GOODS OR NUMBER 10TH OF ANIMALS THAT CAN PASS UNDER THE ROD, WHICH MEANS IF YOU DONT HAVE INCREASE IN YOUR FARM PRODUCE, OR IF YOU HAVE 9 ANIMALS YOU ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO PAY LEVITICAL TITHE

WHAT IS ABRAHAM'S TRIBUTE, TO MELCHIZEDECK? THE FACT THAT A TENTH PORTION OF GOODS/SPOILS WHICH IS NOT ON INCREASE OR FOLLOW THE RULE OF ANIMALS PASSING UNDER THE ROD, BUT TENTH PORTION OF ALL THE SPOILS WAS GIVEN TO KING MELCHIZEDECK WHICH AS A KING HE IS ENTITLED

JESUS RECOGNISE PAYING TRIBUTES/TAX TO THE KING AS AN OBLIGATION, HE REQUESTED FOR A DENARII COIN TEN ASSES, JESUS PAID TAX USING A DENARIUS
,

19 Show Me the tax money.”

So they brought Him a denarius...A denarius (plural denarii) is an ancient Roman coin made of silver. It was originally equal to 10 asses, hence its name.

20 And He said to them, “Whose image and inscription is this?”

21 They said to Him, “Caesar’s.”

And He said to them, “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THAT SOME LIKE GOMBS DONT EVEN KNOW THE MEANING AND DEFINATION OF TITHE, IF NOT KINGS RECEIVE TENTH PART FROM EVERY ONE INCLUDING PAGANS

MELCHIZEDECH IS A KING FIRST, AND A PRIEST. SO ENTITLED TO TAX/TRIBUTES OF THE SPOILS FROM ABRAHAM. SIMPLE
Religion / Re: (law) Levites Have Commandment To Receive Tithe, Pastors Tday Were Not Commanded by BARRISTERS: 12:34am On Nov 17, 2013
@Gombs]

I ASK YOU A SIMPLE QUESTION, YOU DODGE IT, THATS BAD!

I ASK YOU THAT,

WHAT IS THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDECK PRIESTHOOD THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE, EXPLAIN HOW THAT ORDER IS DIFFERENT FROM LIKENESS/SIMILARITY IN FUNCTIONS OF OFFICE THAT BOTH JESUS AND MELCHIZEDECK HAD IN COMMON;

JESUS IS BOTH OUR HIGH PRIEST AND KING
MELCHIZEDECK TOO IS BOTH PRIEST AND KING

.....YOU(JESUS) ARE A PRIEST IN THE ORDER/SIMILAR TO MELCHIZEDECK....

APART FROM THIS SIMILARITY THAT I PUT UP THERE, TELL US WHAT ORDER YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WHICH IS A DIFFERENT ONE




Gombs Oga, Jesus' death was a sacrifice for redemption...for remission of sin.

The priest of old offered bulls n all for atonement of sins, get the diff., that's what that verse is saying.
Stop reading the bible up side down.

MR GOMBS, BEFORE YOU OFFER SOMETHING YOU MUST HAVE RECEIVED IT, TELL US WAYS THAT PRIEST RECEIVE OFFERINGS, YOU WILL AGREE THAT THE OLD PRIESTS NEED ANIMALS, FOODSTUFFS ETC FOR OFFERINGS BUT HEBREW 7 :27 SAYS THAT (JESUS)........... "who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices".......
Religion / Re: (law) Levites Have Commandment To Receive Tithe, Pastors Tday Were Not Commanded by BARRISTERS: 3:37am On Nov 15, 2013
@Gombs

He is talking about US, the new creation folks! We are the refined Priests, of the order of Melchizedek. Hallelujah!

And see that it says, that He will accept the offerings of the people of Judah and Jerusalem ONCE AGAIN as he did in the past
.

[img]COMPARE HEBREWS 7:26-27 YOU ARE TALKING OPPOSITE,

26 For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens; 27 who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself

BROTHER, JESUS DOES NOT NEED BURDENSOME FIXED OFFERINGS AGAIN BECAUSE IT WILL AMOUNT TO DUPLICATION ......"for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself"

JESUS DEATH WILL BE LOSING ITS SIGNIFICANCE IF WE STILL BURDEN OURSELF ON FIXED MATERIAL AND PHISICAL OFFERINGS AND NOT THE SPIRITUAL GOOD BEHAVIOR TO OTHERS AND SHOWING TRUE LOVE AS FINE OFFERINGS OF CONDUCT ACCEPTABLE TO THE LORD [/img]






PLEASE Gombs, STATE YOUR OPINIONS AND STOP CANCELLING OTHERS POST WHILE QUOTING THEM LIKE YOU DID TO ajayikayod

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Religion / Re: (law) Levites Have Commandment To Receive Tithe, Pastors Tday Were Not Commanded by BARRISTERS: 2:56am On Nov 15, 2013
@Gombs

I WANT TO START WITH YOUR FIRST POST

[quote author=Gombs]

I'm not suppose to be on this thread, but...

1. We tithe because we are of the faith of Abraham

YOU ARE AWARE THAT MELCHIZEDECK'S OFFICE IS BOTH KING AND PRIEST

OK, THE KING RECEIVES TAX DURING PRE LAW AND AFTER,

AND SO MELCHIZEDECK AS A KING IS ENTITLED TO RECEIVING TAX

MELCHIZEDECK ALSO AS A PRIEST IS ALSO ENTITLED TO RECEIVE RELIGIOUS 'OFFERINGS'

YOU ARE AWARE THAT WHAT ABRAHAM GAVE TO MELCHIZEDECK WAS NOT ON INCREASE OF HIS FARM BUT A FIXED PERCENTAGE OF WAR SPOILS

NOW CAN YOU TELL US HOW YOU CONCLUDE WHAT ABRAHAM GAVE TO MELCHIZEDECK WAS NOT A TAX OBLIGATION BUT A RELIGIOUS OFFERING?

SHORT ANSWER


2. He tithed to a priest of SAME order of priesthood as Jesus hence tithe is an eternal principle because the priesthood we belong to is forever

WHAT IS THE ORDER OF PRIESTHOOD THAT YOU ARE TALKING OF HERE, EXPLAIN HOW THAT ORDER IS DIFFERENT FROM LIKENESS/SIMILARITY IN FUNCTIONS OF OFFICE THAT BOTH JESUS AND MELCHIZEDECK HAD IN COMMON;

JESUS IS BOTH OUR HIGH PRIEST AND KING
MELCHIZEDECK TOO IS BOTH PRIEST AND KING

.....YOU(JESUS) ARE A PRIEST IN THE ORDER/SIMILAR TO MELCHIZEDECK....

APART FROM THIS SIMILARITY THAT I PUT UP THERE, TELL US WHAT ORDER YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WHICH IS A DIFFERENT ONE

SHORT ANSWER




3. Mal 3 was written not to the levitical priests or Mosaic tithe laws, why?
Because it was written for a time to come, it talks of a later time or a messenger and messiah to come. It was written to scoffers who made fun about the coming of the messiah. Malachi was told to Look, to SEE with his Spirit eye...God said to him "Behold"

OF ALL YOUR EXPLANATIONS YOU WERE ECONOMICAL WITH THE TRUTH HERE BROTHER, THE WHOLE BOOK OF MALACHI WERE WRITTEN TO THE LEVITICAL PRIESTS,

MALACHI 1

7[b] “You offer defiled food on My altar,
But say,
‘In what way have we defiled You?’
By saying,
‘The table of the Lord is contemptible.’
8 And when you offer the blind as a sacrifice,
Is it not evil?
And when you offer the lame and sick,
Is it not evil?
Offer it then to your governor[/b]!
Would he be pleased with you?
Would he accept you favorably?”
Says the Lord of hosts.

MALACHI 2

“And now, O priests, this commandment is for you.
2 If you will not hear,
And if you will not take it to heart,
To give glory to My name,”
Says the Lord of hosts,
“I will send a curse upon you,
And I will curse your blessings.
Yes, I have cursed them already,
Because you do not take it to heart.
4 Then you shall know that I have sent this commandment to you,
That My covenant with Levi may continue,”
Says the Lord of hosts.




The Messiah Jesus will also purify those around Him:
Like fire, He will burn away the impurities of the priests. Like soap, He will wash away their uncleanness ( Deuteronomy 4:29; Isaiah 1:25; Jeremiah 6:29-30; Ezekiel 22:17-22wink. The priests will then be able to offer sacrifices in righteousness (from a pure heart.)

He is talking about US, the new creation folks! We are the refined Priests, of the order of Melchizedek. Hallelujah!

And see that it says, that He will accept the offerings of the people of Judah and Jerusalem ONCE AGAIN as he did in the past.

BROTHER, ARE YOU A CIRCUMCISED JEW? DO YOU FORGET THAT IT WAS ONLY THE JEWS OUT OF THE WHOLE WORLD THEN THAT WERE UNDER THE LEVITICAL PRIESTHOOD, AND NOT OTHER NATIONS, SINCE YOU ARE NOT A JEW, HOW ARE YOU NOW A REFINED JEWISH PRIEST OF MALACHI 3?

BE HONEST PLEASE
Religion / Re: (law) Levites Have Commandment To Receive Tithe, Pastors Tday Were Not Commanded by BARRISTERS: 1:37am On Nov 15, 2013
Joagbaje: Tithes and offerings are eternal principles . They existed before the levitical priest hood.
The kindom of God has many principles. Tithes , offering , alms giving ,fasting , prayer , worship etc. these principles had been there before the law or levitical priesthood.

Christians are not tithing just because the law say so. But rather because it's a principle . If you don't believe in tithing you should not believe in offerings also. Let's worship God with empty hand.

YOU NEED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING BEFORE YOU PROCEED TO CONFUSE THEM UP BROTHER, KINDLY ANSWER THESE, MAKE THEM BRIEF NOT LONG EXPLANATIONS

(A) WHAT IS TITHE? DEFINATION

(B) DIFFERENTIATE TITHE/FIXED PERCENTAGE BEFORE LAW FROM NORMAL TAX(OBLIGATIONS)

(C) WHO RECEIVES TAX AND, WHO RECEIVES TITHE DURING PRE LAW AND POST LAW PERIOD

Religion / Re: (law) Levites Have Commandment To Receive Tithe, Pastors Tday Were Not Commanded by BARRISTERS: 11:58pm On Nov 12, 2013
pre-law Abraham's tenth-part offering to melchizedeck were not commanded, and so should not be used as a basis
Religion / (law) Levites Have Commandment To Receive Tithe, Pastors Tday Were Not Commanded by BARRISTERS: 11:55pm On Nov 12, 2013
HEBREW 7: 5-11,14,18 and 22


5 AND INDEED THOSE WHO ARE OF THE SONS OF LEVI, WHO RECEIVE THE PRIESTHOOD, HAVE A COMMANDMENT TO RECEIVE TITHES FROM THE PEOPLE ACCORDING TO THE LAW, THAT IS, FROM THEIR BRETHREN, THOUGH THEY HAVE COME FROM THE LOINS OF ABRAHAM;



11 THEREFORE, IF PERFECTION WERE THROUGH THE LEVITICAL PRIESTHOOD (FOR UNDER IT THE PEOPLE RECEIVED THE LAW), WHAT FURTHER NEED WAS THERE THAT ANOTHER PRIEST SHOULD RISE ACCORDING TO THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDEK, AND NOT BE CALLED ACCORDING TO THE ORDER OF AARON? 12 FOR THE PRIESTHOOD BEING CHANGED, OF NECESSITY THERE IS ALSO A CHANGE OF THE LAW. 13 FOR HE OF WHOM THESE THINGS ARE SPOKEN BELONGS TO ANOTHER TRIBE, FROM WHICH NO MAN HAS OFFICIATED AT THE ALTAR.

14 FOR IT IS EVIDENT THAT OUR LORD AROSE FROM JUDAH, OF WHICH TRIBE MOSES SPOKE NOTHING CONCERNING PRIESTHOOD.[A] 15 AND IT IS YET FAR MORE EVIDENT IF, IN THE LIKENESS OF MELCHIZEDEK, THERE ARISES ANOTHER PRIEST 16 WHO HAS COME, NOT ACCORDING TO THE LAW OF A FLESHLY COMMANDMENT, BUT ACCORDING TO THE POWER OF AN ENDLESS LIFE.

18[b] FOR ON THE ONE HAND THERE IS AN ANNULLING OF THE FORMER COMMANDMENT BECAUSE OF ITS WEAKNESS AND UNPROFITABLENESS[/b], 19 FOR THE LAW MADE NOTHING PERFECT; ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE IS THE BRINGING IN OF A BETTER HOPE, THROUGH WHICH WE DRAW NEAR TO GOD.


22 BY SO MUCH MORE JESUS HAS BECOME A SURETY OF A BETTER COVENANT.

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Religion / Re: Heb. 1:5, 'today I Have Begotten You' JESUS Beign 'begotten' Means ADOPTION by BARRISTERS: 11:13pm On Sep 07, 2013
i ve got some stuff, how about that?
Religion / Re: Heb. 1:5, 'today I Have Begotten You' JESUS Beign 'begotten' Means ADOPTION by BARRISTERS: 11:10pm On Sep 07, 2013
can i have a chat with you?
Foreign Affairs / Re: Comments? Questions? Complaints? Talk To The Mod Here... by BARRISTERS: 7:05pm On Sep 06, 2013
MODERATORS ATTENTION HERE!, I JUST RECEIVE A CALL FROM A FRIEND THAT THERE WAS SOMEONE CALLED BENAL WHO OPEN A THREAD ACCUSING ME 'BARRISTERS' WITHOUT EVEN ESTABLISHING ANY DISCUSSION EVER ON ANY THREAD ON NL BETWEEN MYSELF AND HIM;MR BENAL.

I work together with group of counsels, somewhere here lagos, and i deal more on property thread now than the religious threads,

One Mr benal was guity of failure to observe NL rule; Rule 8. Don't post false information on Nairaland.

He earlier said that i was banned, but when i ask him to show me where i was ever banned he started to throw insults. he said he will be travelling, i dont know what is pursuing him

he erred when he could not even show any link ever that i have ever engage him, that make his matter worst, hence im innocent of his wrongful accusation nothing legitimately to show for it.

he wrongly put false impression without evidence that there was a ban on me, he could not show that because i was never banned, and demand that he should be warned. and the thread closed,

below is the link

https://www.nairaland.com/1415473/bernimoore-threatened-sue-me-because/1#17937851

when i demand for evidence of any exchange of post between us on any thread ever, he was mute to me, barrister

i want fairness, we have never engaged not even once on NL and demand that he should be warned. and the thread closed,
Religion / Re: Bernimoore Has Threatened To Sue Me Because Of Nairaland by BARRISTERS: 4:13pm On Sep 06, 2013
Itsfacts:

guy you no they shame? After I show you say a thread that expose your deceiving act they around then you come they login as Barrister they pretend. See as you fuckup as you they talk like bernimoore.

WHAT? YOU ARE MISTAKEN ME FOR SOMEONE ELSE HERE, THE OP SAYS THAT I, BARRISTERS WAS BANNED, I RECEIVE A CALL ON MY SET FROM SOMEONE TO GO TO THE RELIGIOUS SECTION OF NL, I DID AND WAS SUPRISED I WAS SAID TO HAVE BEEN BANNED, I RESPOND RECOGNISING THAT IT WAS A LIE, HERE I AM. HE WAS NOW SAYING THAT HE IS TRAVELLING ALRIGHT, THE OP COULD NOT PUT A THREAD I HAVE ANY CONTACT WITH HIM ON NL

THE RULES BEFORE POSTING ARE THERE, FALSE IMFORMATION, WHY IF I JUST THINK I SHOULD KNOW.
Religion / Re: Bernimoore Has Threatened To Sue Me Because Of Nairaland by BARRISTERS: 2:08pm On Sep 06, 2013
Please Observe The Following Rules: (skip) 8. Don't post false information on Nairaland

MR BENAL, DO YOU OBSERVE THE ABOVE BEFORE YOU INCLUDE ME IN YOUR THREAD, YOU BROKE RULE 8 ABOVE
Religion / Re: Bernimoore Has Threatened To Sue Me Because Of Nairaland by BARRISTERS: 1:56pm On Sep 06, 2013
benalvino:

Well I dont have time for you before you open your mouth and tell me you will sue me again... you just made it clear you that BERNIMOORE and BARRISTER are same person... I thought you were a wise guy. but lately Our Debate shows you are a Bi-polar... Just coming to nairaland to feel Good... I made you Mess up and you were so Embarrass that you started Deleting your Post... later threatened to sue me...

I aint Got time for ya... I will be travelling tomorrow.... I need to pack my stuff... Bi-POLAR
!

YOU SUDDENLY DONT HAVE MY TIME OMG, YET YOU OPEN A THREAD AND INCLUDE ME WHEN WE HAVE NEVER ENGAGED EACH OTHER ON NL, THAT IS WIERD WHERE IS FAIRNESS HERE I ASK?

PUT THE THREAD HERE WHERE WE HAVE EVER ENGAGED
Religion / Re: Bernimoore Has Threatened To Sue Me Because Of Nairaland by BARRISTERS: 1:44pm On Sep 06, 2013
benalvino:

Yes... you are BERNIMOORE... I think you are Bi-polar

WHERE WHAT THREAD? PLS
Religion / Re: Bernimoore Has Threatened To Sue Me Because Of Nairaland by BARRISTERS: 1:43pm On Sep 06, 2013
YOU SAID BARRISTERS WAS BANNED

SO I WAS INFORMED ON A PHONE SOME MINUTES AGO THAT SOMEONE SAID I WAS BANNED, THEN I HAVE TO SHOW UP,

BUT HAVE I EVER ENGAGE YOU?
Religion / Re: Bernimoore Has Threatened To Sue Me Because Of Nairaland by BARRISTERS: 1:37pm On Sep 06, 2013
benalvino:

BERNIMOORE you are a fool... BERNIMOORE AND BARRISTER favorite word is speculating... After someone showed BERNIMOORE that a thread of him was opened suddenly BARRISTER Showed up... Using same word BERNIMOORE like to Use... SPECULATING...

lol...

HAVE WE MET BEFORE?

KINDLY RESPOND
Religion / Re: Bernimoore Has Threatened To Sue Me Because Of Nairaland by BARRISTERS: 1:31pm On Sep 06, 2013
I THINK YOU GUYS ARE JOBLESS, SPECULATING WHAT YOU DONT KNOW! YOU THINK EVERYBODY GOT THE TIME TO HANG ON TO ONLY NL, WHEN THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER SITES.TELL ME WHO BANNED BARRISTERS AND WHEN?
Religion / Re: Bernimoore Has Threatened To Sue Me Because Of Nairaland by BARRISTERS: 1:21pm On Sep 06, 2013
benalvino:

go to this link you will know that barrister was ban by either manmuswac or someone because of a boy reported him of trying to make him feel bad... something i am saying on my original post
https://www.nairaland.com/1160751/christ-head/9#14026990
read from top down that page.

Now he is doing same thing by the name BERNIMOORE

https://www.nairaland.com/1160751/christ-head/9#14025925

BARRISTERS WAS BANNED? REALLY, AND WHO BANNED HIM FROM NL.
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HOW MUCH NOW?

YOUR FRIEND, BARRISTERS, ITS BEEN A WHILE NOW,

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