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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:31pm On May 02
DeepSight:
Played as a Russian asset.
Looking for points to buttress your point of view.
The war is just a meat grinder . No meaningful gains on each side as far as I have been seeing . Putin is ready to stop the war, Zelensky is demanding more aid to restore Ukraine borders,which will not happen .
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:28pm On May 02
GracieX3:
Silly question. A fetus in the first few weeks cannot survive outside the womb
When does it stop becoming a fetus?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:27pm On May 02
So when is the exact time it won't be taking away a life?
15 weeks, 20 weeks?
DeepSight:
If you are referring to Graciex3's comment, it is valid for her to point out that people may not be comfortable giving their children to strangers. That is a very valid concern and an instinctive one too, and I also pointed it out myself in case you missed it.

And if you are referring yo her, what do you mean that "people go marry rubbish these days" We can certainly say that your wife has married rubbish too since you can talk like that so cavalierly.

And abortion is not necessarily killing your child. I dont think it is killing or murder to for example stop a one week pregnancy.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:25pm On May 02
Amen.

bayelsaowei:
What do you teach your daughters as a full time worshipper of a renowned sex offender and a non repentant felon?

May God help your daughters.

🙏🏿
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:39am On May 02
BreakingNews21:
Don Tzu has more beef on the political menu. 😁

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0729d374mxo
Yes that is correct. The German chancellor recently said the Iran war is unjust and Iran is humiliating America.
Trump has now decided to withdraw 5000 troops stationed on German soil. You know what that means.. Besides the local restaurants, stores,movie theatre , pubs etc losing customers , it's a warning , play ball before shooting off your mouth.

Trump has also ordered 25% tariffs on EU vehicles. Who will be the hardest hit. Germany whose revenues from automobiles is very significant.

With EU telling members not to buy cheap Russian gas and oil. With Germany shutting down nearly all it's nuclear and coal plants energy is now expensive . Which doesn't help a manufacturing giant.
Add to their refusal to join Operation End Fury. Global oil and gas prices have shot up as a result of the Straits of Hormuz blockade.
The German economy is already taking a hit from their policies and the money they give Ukraine. They can force Zelensky to the negotiating table but it will make Trump win the Nobel prize.

25% tariffs on their vehicles will impact German economy more than the troop withdrawal.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:13am On May 02
The $6 Trillion is a figure liberals will never accept.
Gemini is heavily biased and I have evidence of Gemini making up stories to me on a sports discipline that I was seeing updates on flashscore. Many times, not once .

tctrills:
My brother, when you use AI, learn to conduct deep research. Dont worry, I will do it for you.

Since the launch of the "War on Poverty" in 1964, the US has spent over $26 trillion on anti-poverty programs, with total expenditures potentially reaching higher depending on whether state-level contributions and specific program definitions (such as medical vs. cash aid) are included. Current federal spending alone exceeds $1 trillion annually.

Now, on total entitlement benefits, the US has spent $193 trillion

Now the question is, what percentage has gone to the blacks? This is where we apply AI.

[url]Grok[/url]

Around 23-26% of recipients (and a similar share of spending) in major US means-tested welfare programs go to Black Americans, who make up roughly 13-14% of the total US population.
Key Data (Recent Years, e.g., ~2019–2023)

Combined safety net programs (Urban Institute analysis of ~59 million recipients): Non-Hispanic White ~43%, Hispanic ~26%, Black ~23%.
SNAP (food stamps): White ~35-42% (non-Hispanic White lower, around 35-37%), Black ~25-28%, Hispanic ~16%. Blacks are overrepresented relative to population share.
Older or multi-program data (e.g., SNAP + TANF + housing) sometimes shows higher Black shares for specific overlapping benefits, but the broad pattern holds: Whites are the largest group by raw numbers, Blacks are disproportionately represented.

Spending (dollars) tracks recipient shares closely because benefits are allocated per eligible person or household (with adjustments for household size, income, etc.). There is no comprehensive official breakdown showing a dramatically different spending percentage. Black households are overrepresented among recipients due to higher participation rates in programs like SNAP, Medicaid, and TANF, driven by factors such as higher poverty rates, single-parent households, and urban concentration.

ChatGPT


There isn’t a single percentage for “all U.S. welfare” going to any one group, because “welfare” isn’t one program—it includes things like food assistance (SNAP), healthcare (Medicaid), and cash aid (TANF), and each has different data.

Breaking it down (to understand it properly)
1) Food assistance (SNAP)
Black recipients: about 26–27%
White recipients: larger share overall
2) Cash welfare (TANF)
Black recipients: about 27–28%
3) Healthcare (Medicaid)
Black recipients: about 23%

This completely corresponds with Grok. Blacks get more than 23% of all welfare.


Gemini

Program, Black Recipients (%),
SNAP (Food Stamps),~25%,
TANF (Cash Assistance),~28%,
Public Housing,~45%,

This again shows that blacks get nothing less than 23% of all welfare


Now, let's use the lowest figure, 23%. Calculate 23% of 26 trillion

The result is 5.98 trillion

This represents the lowest possible amount blacks get from welfare.
I am usually not wrong with the stats and figures
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:09am On May 02
DeepSight:
Then it is in order for anyone to question the truth of you being a father to daughters.


Parliamentary immunity is nothing new. I don't think it is true that they have seen fully redacted files. Till date. Certainly not all of them.
You don't think they have seen all the documents showing Trumps complicity. You don't think.
That's enough.

As to my personal life I have 3 daughters. Applying fuzzy logic or whatever don't change that.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:05am On May 02
GracieX3:
Fetus is not a child.
Yea right. Just a clump of cells . Unviable.
You are free to believe anything.
How about a child (boy or girl )who survives an abortion. What to do with it?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:02am On May 02
DeepSight:
Do you defend Trump on the Epstein matter?
I don't believe there is any evidence to tie him to Epstein crimes. Period.
There is something you may not know. On the floor of congress or Senate a member can make any accusation with no legal repercussions.
They have seen unredacted documents of what was released.. None of them has ever said anything. Tell me why.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:52am On May 02
DeepSight:
Your mind is on display here.

And yes, it is frankly incomprehensible for anyone who is a father of daughters to support or defend those who assaulted and abused under age girls as many of you Trumpists have.
I have spent years detailing how the democrats went after Trump. A huge coordinated effort led by the intelligence community, democrat party , establishment Republicans like McCain and Bill Barr, social media giants, mainstream media , liberal prosecutors, judges and juries .

Why won't democrats reveal what the saw in the unredacted Epstein releases.
As to the E Jean Carroll case , she was funded by Reid Hoffman the bosom Epstein buddy. New York state specifically passed a law New York Adult Survivors Act on 2022
granting any woman with claims of sexual assault to file suit within a year , which allowed her to file .

As to Stormy Daniels case , the case was only possible after DOJ sent it's third top employee to deputize Alvin Bragg. Bragg was pressured to reopen the investigation after his immediate predecessor had dropped it
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:43am On May 02
Obrigardo:
You don't match that with your affiliations. You don't.
You are anti-family, and pro-perdofilya no matter what you point out here

Your affiliation speaks volume, mr man.
Why you like to lie?
God have mercy upon you.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:42am On May 02
Try the same question to Grok which strives to be as fair as possible unlike Gemini which is liberally biased.
Grok says not exactly but

DeepSight:
QUESTION: IS THE CLAIM THAT BLACK AMERICANS HAVE BEEN GIVEN SIX TRILLION IN ENTITLEMENT BENEFITS TRUE AND IF SO, WHATS THE TIMELINE, AND WHO GOT THESE FUNDS AND ON WHAT BASIS?

GEMINI: The claim that Black Americans specifically have been "given $6 trillion in entitlement benefits" is a mischaracterization of broader figures frequently cited in debates over U.S. welfare policy. There is no official government record or peer-reviewed study that confirms a $6 trillion figure allocated exclusively to Black Americans.

Instead, the "$6 trillion" figure likely stems from a confusion of several distinct data points related to total national spending, specific asset valuations, or recent federal deficit increases.

1. The Likely Origins of the "$6 Trillion" Figure
The specific number $6 trillion appears in two very different contexts within recent economic discourse, neither of which represents an "entitlement payout" to Black Americans:

Total Black Household Wealth: According to data from the Federal Reserve, the total assets held by Black American households (including real estate, pension entitlements, and savings) reached approximately $6 trillion in 2022 (HBCU Money, 2023). This represents the collective net worth and private savings of the population, not government spending.

Recent Federal Deficit Claims: Economic critics, such as those at the Heritage Foundation, have argued that the Biden administration's policies added roughly $6 trillion to the national deficit through various spending bills (Ditch, 2023). These funds were allocated across the entire U.S. population for infrastructure, COVID-19 relief, and climate initiatives, rather than being targeted specifically toward one racial group.

2. Historical Context of Welfare Spending
If the claim is intended to refer to "The War on Poverty" (launched in 1964), the numbers are much larger, but also population-wide:

Total Spending: Research by Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation estimated that the U.S. spent approximately $22 trillion on means-tested welfare programs between 1964 and 2014 (Rector, 2014).

Demographic Distribution: While African Americans are disproportionately represented in certain means-tested programs due to higher poverty rates, they have never been the sole or primary recipients of the total expenditure. For example, in most years of the program's history, White Americans have constituted the largest single racial group receiving SNAP (food stamps) and Medicaid benefits.

3. Basis and Eligibility
Federal benefits in the United States are not distributed on the basis of race, as that would violate the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment and the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Instead, funds are distributed based on:

Financial Need: Means-tested programs like TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families) or Medicaid require recipients to fall below specific income thresholds.

Age and Contribution: "Entitlements" like Social Security and Medicare are based on age and the amount of payroll taxes an individual has paid into the system over their working life.

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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:36am On May 02
GracieX3:
Go and look up how the foster care system has f4cked up children in the USA. From sexual abuse to domestic abuse to emotional abuse.

Do you know what it is to grow up without parental love? To grow up with other children who see you as competition and not siblings?

Who told you that strangers are better equipped to take care of a dumped child?
So it's better to love a child so much you kill it because it might face problems in foster homes?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:33am On May 02
cococandy:
Let me make it clear to you. IDGAF what you think about abortion

You don’t get a say. Don’t like it? Oh well too bad.
I proved it to you democrats to a man refused to pass a law protecting the child born out a failed abortion. On 4 occasions democrats refused to explicitly grant that child any right to life.

I have nothing good to say about abortion.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:31am On May 02
How I respond now to you? . You only know me from what I post here
Your type forms a stupid conclusion then sticks by it.
Then wants everyone else to agree with you.

bayelsaowei:
It’s not possible to have a daughter and stand behind/worship a sex offender and a pdf. It’s not possible..

It’s not possible to have a daughter and fight against every initiative that supports the female child..

It’s not possible!!
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:16am On May 02
I didn't know about that.
In some African countries you can't do that. Mother's who drop their children at their deadbeat father's work places have been charged in court.

tctrills:
Have you heard of Safe Haven Laws in the US?
Once you hand your baby to a staff member at a designated location (hospital, fire station, or police station), your legal responsibility ends immediately.

So you are not forced to care for the child if you don't want to.
The excuse that the mother is left without option is false.

Let's face the fact, mothers who kill their babies are murderous and wicked. Simple.

99% of them have no good reason to do so.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:12am On May 02
Any evidence? Sex education should be compulsory in schools. Not indoctrination by groomers.

GracieX3:
Unfortunately, your republican party does not believe in sex education to prevent unwanted pregnancy.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:08am On May 02
cococandy:
Joke of the century.
You might need to change you news sources if you never heard about the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act

Recent floor votes on the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act in the House and Senate show strict party-line splits, with Republicans voting in favour and Democrats voting against.

1.
January 2025 House Vote (Passed)
In the 119th Congress, the House passed the bill (H.R. 21) on January 23, 2025.

Total Vote: 217 "Yea" to 204 "Nay".
Republicans: All present Republicans (216) voted Yea.
Democrats: 204 Democrats voted Nay. 1 Democrat voted Yea and 1 Democrat voted Present.

2.
January 2025 Senate Vote (Blocked)
In the Senate, Republicans attempted to advance the bill (invoke cloture) on January 22, 2025, but failed to reach the required 60 votes.

Republicans: Voted unanimously Yea to proceed.
Democrats: Voted unanimously Nay to proceed, successfully blocking the measure.

3.
January 2023 House Vote (Passed)
In the 118th Congress, the bill (H.R. 26) passed the House on January 11, 2023.

Total Vote: 220 "Yea" to 210 "Nay".
Republicans: 219 Republicans voted Yea. None voted against it.
Democrats: 210 Democrats voted Nay. Only 1 Democrat (Rep. Henry Cuellar of Texas) voted Yea, and 1 Democrat (Rep. Vicente Gonzalez of Texas) voted Present.

4.
February 2020 Senate Vote (Blocked)
An older Senate vote to invoke cloture on the bill (S. 311) fell short of the 60-vote threshold with a 56 to 41 outcome.
Republicans: 53 Republicans voted Yea.
Democrats: 41 Democrats (and Independents who caucus with them) voted Nay. 3 Democrats (Senators Bob Casey, Doug Jones, and Joe Manchin) broke from their party to vote Yes



By now you should know I just don't make any comments without some background information.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:49am On May 02
GracieX3:
This is the simple minded, narrow vision of the religious Conservative.

Please, there are many orphanages full to the brim with children. From babies to teenagers. Those looking to adopt have many choices.

However, typical Conservatives do not care about children but they want them to be born. They prefer to cut benefits that enable women raise children.

I am pro choice and not pro abortion. Abortion is the last option. It should be an option.
Abortion should be a last resort. Pregnancy should also be a last resort given 12 ways to prevent it minus not having sex.
Most of the abortions are from sanr knowledgeable women , (many married too).
Grandparents with an iota of decency won't have their grandchildren in orphanages.
One reason women abort is fear of the unknown, rejection and career . Some don't desire having fallen twin soldiers or a protruding belly at early stages of life . Looks matter more in their career.
I think it was posted here the families hoping to adopt is almost equal to the number of abortions . I know only about 25K were adopted last year against 1.3 million abortions .

Govt should not fund elective abortions is my stand. Ideally abortion should be after the woman has undergone unbiased professional counselling from pro life and abortion advocates respectively.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:38am On May 02
tctrills:
Abi
If the more than 6 trillion black Américai has gotten in entitlement benefits changed nothing, that shows this is not a money problem
Now that we are on abortion , Out of that $6 Trillion exclude planned Parenthood portion . 🙂🙂
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:35am On May 02
cococandy:
You know how your party believes that after birth abortion is a thing?

Don’t underestimate me. You’re not too old to be aborted now according to your party beliefs.

Lower your gaze when you speak to me.
Democrats are the ones who want abortion third trimester . Call the fetus a clump of cells. Call the fetus unviable.

It's democrats who blocked a common sense bill.. Whether the due standard of care is applied to a baby who survives an abortion. The republican wanted mandatory care of the child as a human being . Democrats voted no almost to a man. Translation. If an unwabted baby survives ,kill it . Postbirth abortion or murder?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:35am On May 02
Obrigardo:
I would pay to check your laptop drives or your browser history. All of you maga cultists are highly suspects in child sexual predatory practices.
All of you.
I'm one of the most outspoken on abortions and child transitions.
On transitions I have been very clear, those who promote it are child groomers hiding in plain sight.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:29am On May 02
GracieX3:
Charlie Kirk said that if his 10 year old daughter got graped and pregnant, she should still give birth to the baby.


This is what religion does to you. Absolute morality when life is grey (not absolute or black and white)
I have the means to bring up grandchildren if they cannot.
The idea that you can't bring up kids is a very powerful incentive by the pro abortion crowd .
Many childless career women in their late thirties or early forties wish they got the babies instead of flushing them.
Many kids have been born from rape and succeeded in life. I've just seen Rev Jesse Jackson was one of them.What if the mother dies during the abortion..I won't condemn every unplanned kid to abortion.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:27am On May 02
Just what I wanted. Every dominant state party to redraw maps to favour them.Democrats are almost done with their states.
They went to courts in Southern states who ordered congressional districts be carved out to secure democrat majority seats. Grok tells me at least 8-12 seats were simply handed over to democrats by courts .

GOP States Strike Back: Redrawing Maps to Crush Democrat Strongholds After SCOTUS Slaps Down Racial Gerrymandering

Southern Republican-led states are wasting no time seizing the momentum from the Supreme Court's April 29 ruling that smacked down Louisiana's race-based congressional map as unconstitutional.

Florida, Louisiana, Tennessee, Alabama, and South Carolina are already charging forward with new maps for 2026. In Florida, the legislature just greenlit Governor Ron DeSantis' bold plan that could flip the state's delegation from a solid 20-8 Republican edge to a crushing 24-4 blowout by targeting vulnerable Democrat seats.

This is what winning looks like. The Court made it clear: race can't be the driving force in drawing districts. No more Democrat-favored racial carve-outs that dilute fair representation. Republicans are finally playing hardball on fair maps that reflect actual communities and voter will, not identity politics.

Mississippi should jump in now and join the fight. The message is loud and clear: conservatives aren't backing down. More red seats, fewer blue excuses.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:04am On May 02
We also lacked the killer instinct to survive .Living within the tropics
It's a never ending topic with no simple explanation as to why blacks are behind.

THEDEEPSIGHT:
There's that, but it's a so much more bigger subject than that. It involves history, economics, warfare, social sciences, psychology, geography, climate, biology, zoology, botany, agriculture and so so much.

I can only smile sadly when I see clowns who simply think it's just down to one factor such as the inherent stupidity of Africans.

And worse any attempt to discuss the issues rationally is met with "take responsibility" or "those are excuses."

Sigh.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:02am On May 02
THEDEEPSIGHT:
And if they elect to abort?
It's still not a family planning methods.
Govt should never fund elective abortions. Never.
It's time individuals became responsible.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:57am On May 02
After independence Africa was swamped with economic hitmen sweet talking them into borrowing to fund huge white elephant projects they couldn't afford.
Add kickbacks to the leaders ,most countries end up repaying debt on projects that were totally unnecessary.
There's a freely available book .
Confessions of an economic hitman by John Perkins
THEDEEPSIGHT:
The factors which have determined what people are advanced today and what people are still struggling, I repeat, are the subject of advanced academics. Even Fela said so.

Sadly this subject is far over the heads of the motley gang of so called conservatives here.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:34am On May 02
Abortion is not a method of family planning.
There are at least 12 well known family planning methods plus abstinence.
I don't talk about such to my daughters to be honest,but they know if they got pregnant they wouldn't be forced into marriages or abortion. We would help raise the child.
It's up to them to be responsible. We won't be chasing diapers when we head to fifties.

GracieX3:
Ah cococandy. Some men too are pro-choice
or
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:23am On May 02
If my knowledge of the west was only rom diasporans ,Id be very ignorant.Because America is the wealthiest country . I remember being regaled with stories of how cities are chean,buses are punctual , you don't get to see any dust at all ,no muddy streets. Jobs are plenty , most stuff is automated, etc .

How is it that they want govt to cover abortion because they can't afford. That always nags me. Till Friday.


tctrills:
1 to 2 million couples are waiting to adopt
In some estimates, that’s:
30+ waiting families for every 1 infant placed for adoption.

No woman in the US kills her unborn because she is too broke to take care of it.

Have you ever been to an abortion centre in the US?

There are always anti abortionist outside begging the mother, promising to take care of the pregnancy and the baby if the mom decides to keep it.

So please next excuse
cause
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:14am On May 02
tctrills:
Segregation ended in 1964, is it not enough time to ask what and how has black America bettered itself since then?
Can we mention any action taken by the black community to improve their culture and society?
Secondly, how are the whites holding back black America today?
Since 1964, the blacks have been given more than 6 trillion dollars. They are by a mile the biggest benefactors of entitlement benefits per capital.
The have been given a black president, a black vice, blacks in the supreme court and they were granted affirmative action for decades.
What more would America do before they choose to be successful?

Please make a few suggestions of what the US can do to fix the black problem.
Pay reparations to every black . smiley 😃
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:09am On May 02
DeepSight:
I am tired of your black hatred.
I am a black, blacks blame others for their failures. That's a fact.
Our leaders steal then blame colonialism.
Liberia wasn't colonized . Basket case.
Ethiopia wasn't colonized. It's nsking rapid advances in development.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:18pm On May 01
DeepSight:
.I don't watch BB.
Neither do I , but I've read about her getting more fouled because of her colour.
It's framed like blacks are jealous of her stealing the thunder.
Some go ahead accusing black people of being backward.
You might want to tell those WNBA stars play with class.

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