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budaatum:
You've heard of one single high profile case and think that's the extent of it.

A single case is bad enough Im sure you agree.
Tom Robinson spoke out while PDs were silent for fear of being called racist.

You are deceptive.Why did you not include details from the story.
19000 girls?
You cant be that callous.

[quote author=budaatum post=104498539][/quote]Alex Jones was slammed for saying abortionists collect baby parts for sale.
He has been proven right. Dr Fauci sent aid to one such facility.

benalvino3:
You still not showing any evidence that will make me choose antifa over proudboys. I have shown why I don't support antifa.

You are just talk talk talk and that's all. Every thing is nazi to you. I don't support any of these group but if I had to choose between Antifa and proudboys it will be proudboys. Sorry I broke your heart but I have seen worse things from antifa compared to proudboys.

You are absolutely right. Let a list of crimes by both groups be brought to the table.

[quote author=budaatum post=104498539][/quote]How did the grooming gangs get called Asians to hide their real countries of origin? Asians include Chinese,Koreans, Indians etc who were not part of these paedophile rapists.
If you cant see persecution of Tom Robinson, I cant help you. Quote how many girls were raped over decades And how many rapists spent a night in jail.Girls Tom spoke out for.

Konkoja:
Some arguments/comments here are repulsive. The extent some will defend racists, racism and programmes & policies with racial undertone is shocking. Most times, I just move on because these people have decided to carry water for racists and white Supremacists.

There is an inner racism and tribalism within everyone. Screaming loudly will not make whites accept you as an equal.
Why don't you ever talk about Arab Muslims esp. Within them you find violence rendered on non Arabs. They hate Jews with a passion for instance and celebrate when the Jews are killed whether in ME or anywhere. They hate other religions such as Hindu and Christianity.
The UK grooming gangs believe women are whores and deserve to be raped. Same case to ISIS and Boko Haram #bringbackourgirls.You cant even see sone of their women's hair because you are beneath them.
Within them , there are sects who hate each other to the point of death.Within them there is a superior lineage,anyone who can trace their lineage to Muhammad iQuraish clan is Superior to the others.
Cant even marry a muslim without converting.

Yet you scream racism day and night because some blue eyed punk does not love you.

PrideofLincoln1:
I am beginning to feel like you now. Imagine the kind of restraint i am going through knowing these guys are crazy. I grew up here and guys that never steps outside of Nigeria are carrying flags of the same people that will cremate them alive. That's mental illness my friend.

You are quite wrong. You been answered already regarding the positions you hold. Because we don't agree with you does not make us wrong. We don't force anyone to agree with us on matters arising You want us to jump how high. Does not work that way. I have my own mind and can reason , with no predetermined mind.
The extreme left is far worse than the extreme right. That lunatic who shot at congressmen during a baseball practice was s Bernie bro. You people were happy he did that because he shot republicans. Any claim to morality sounds alien to your type when its conservatives on the receiving end.
You live by lies, you lie to yourself and to everyone. Most of you have to lie either consciously or out of ignorance and lack of knowledge.

PrideofLincoln1:
Why don't you stop this garbage. Ain't you have no self esteem. This garbage you are spouting will get you killed literally if you reside in US. Where is your self worth as an African living in Africa saying that you prefer Proud Boys. That's enough to make any sane man be he Black, Hispanic or White puke. Enough of this garbage please. Don't throw this forum back to the sewage that we are all trying to avoid. This junk you are putting out is very very appalling.

You would not welcome a lot of people to your village.
The tagging by the left is what me and Ben are consistently up against .
In all rallies where Proud Boys showed up the attackers and instigators were antifa and BLM.

Supporters of Trump whom you tag as racist and so are sellouts to you .

benalvino3:
That's a big lie. If it's true use YouTube and show us proud boys attacking any group. They only defend themselves and people. They don't attack first. But back up what you claim with a video because we are in an age of smart phones

This article reveals that grooming gangs are not heavily muslim.

The depth political correctness can sink to

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/19/home-office-report-grooming-gangs-not-muslim

salford:
He is complaining about being broke and bankrupt. Fanboys in Nigeria (Naija chapter) can help organize a "go fund me" for Tommy.

You seem happy that the Asian gangs can go ahead and rape young girls.

Tdotbluejays:
Since we are talking about Tommy. Apparently, he has some fanboys on this thread. Very funny.

Lawfare. Who gets paid 100k for.speech crimes
Its lawfare and excess fine is to harrass Tom Robinson if not to bankrupt him then jail him.
In this case I would believe Tom. I will not believe people who are allowed to lie

benalvino3:
The sins of Tommy Robinson is to expose the grooming Muslim gang everyone was afraid to expose because of political correctness and the fear of being called a racist. Ibime follows anything the media ask him to.

BBC a propaganda corporation is doing a good job and it cost Ibime 100 pounds for TV license

I questioned immigration the other day and no one gave me an answer as to why immigration is a do or die .To the west.
UK esp under Blair allowed so many immigrants who don't mingle or assimilate who have raped thousands and thousands of young girls .
The police were not even investigating . The police call these muslim groups Asian gangs forgetting Indians, Chinese , Koreans etc are Asians and they are not part of these atrocities.

As for Ibime, if he had a daughter he would rather she be raped by these gangs than for Tommy Robinson to speak out against them.

sanpipita:
Na wao some arguments here, Ben did you say you will feel safer with proud boys? its okay to dislike antifa and blm but this is a stretch, proud boys leader even pleaded guilty for attacking a black church

Proud boys is a purely white group?

Ibime:
Look at who is talking about indoctrination. This one has been so indoctrinated by the rubbish websites he reads, he thinks Tommy Robinson is an upstanding guy. Let Tommy and his group catch you on a dark night with no members of the Public around.

Someone so indoctrinated, he was asking why countries need to accept immigrants at all. Thats a response of an indoctrinated cultists. It is a moot point because whether a country likes it or not, immigrants will arrive in search of safety or to flee from poverty. How thise humans are treated and processed is covered under International law and all countries even have obligations to accept immigrants fleeing danger under the UN laws they all agreed to. That's how dehumanisation starts. When countries start to maltreat or even kill immigrants, be will be the first to rationalist it as he has already dehumanised them in his mind.

Korea n Japan very rich. Why not try applying that international law nonsense to gain citizenship to the two?

Tdotbluejays:
I don't need the left to tell me anything. Look at his supporters below.

Those are photos. Where has he supported Nazis in speech ?

Tdotbluejays:
I still witnessed a demonstration on Oxford Street, London 2 years ago. It was a "free Tommy Robinson rally".

It's like a minority guy watching people of all races and colour staging an anti-demonstration against NAZI scums, racists, white nationalist, e t.c but then the minority guy acts against his own interest by deciding to side with the latter instead of the former. That is cooning for sure.

Is Tommy Robinson a NAZI or has the left declared him to be one and so he is.
He is anti immigration I know. And pretty much anti Islam.

Tdotbluejays:
Summary. If you like, claim that it's propaganda. Na una Sabi. Atleast it's the GQP voter's base that are mostly dying off.

How many Latinos have rejected the vaccine and died?
How many N95 masks do hospitals stock?
What is the average hair length of all the people at the Olympics?

Bjah blah bkah

Tdotbluejays:
Anyway, the data here still proves your claims wrong. Note the party affiliation, education and income too. Signing off. Have a nice day.

Petty frivolous argument just for the sake.Writer states one thing and you go ahead to "correct" his data?SMH.

Tdotbluejays:
They were initially reluctant but have since been closing the gap. From your same website.

They are closing the gap, who has denied that.
Can you stop being petty like Obama?

Tdotbluejays:
Basilico claims blacks are the least vaccinated but data claims otherwise. I don't know why you far right wingers like to lie. It's a big turn off.

I don't own the website.
The part I quoted says that.And I repeat

58% of races known vaxxed people ,blacks were only 10%. If we add the unknown races and give them to blacks they would still be 52% black caxxed people
Its data from CDC.

The first stanzas

As of this week, 70% of the adult population
in the United States have received at least
one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. While this
progress represents a marked achievement in
vaccinations that has led to steep declines in
COVID-19 cases and deaths, vaccination
coverage—and the protections provided by it
—remains uneven across the country. With
the growing spread of the more transmissible
Delta variant, cases, hospitalizations, and
deaths are once again rising, largely among
unvaccinated people. While White adults
account for the largest share (57%) of
unvaccinated adults, Black and Hispanic
people remain less likely than their White
counterparts to have received a vaccine,
leaving them at increased risk, particularly as
the variant spreads.


As observed in prior weeks, Black and
Hispanic people have received smaller shares
of vaccinations compared to their shares of
cases and compared to their shares of the
total population in most states. The share of
vaccinations received by Black people also
continues to be smaller than their share of
deaths in most states, although in some
states it is similar to the share of deaths. The
share of vaccinations received by Hispanic
people is similar to or higher than their share
of deaths in most reporting states, although
in some states it continues to be lower. For
example, in California, 30% of vaccinations
have gone to Hispanic people, while they
account for 63% of cases, 48% of deaths,
and 40% of the total population in the state.
Similarly, in the District of Columbia, Black
people have received 43% of vaccinations,
while they make up 56% of cases, 71% of
deaths, and 46% of the total population. The
size of these differences varies across
states. The number of states where the
shares of vaccinations received by Black and
Hispanic people are more proportionate to
their shares of the total population and/or
their shares of cases or deaths in the state
has grown over time.

Tdotbluejays:
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/dashboard/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-dashboard/

Sane website Huh?
The data we have been presented is ambiguous when it comes to the rona..

Ibime:
Like I said, you lack cultural awareness and sense of history. This is from a Conservative newspaper.

I'm an ardent follower of WW2 documentaries. Most of Trumps manoeuvres are straight-out of Hitler playbook from claiming election was rigged, burning the Reichstag (Jan 6th), hyping up the Communists to be bigger than what they are, creating alternative facts (Goebells), trying to take lands that belong to other countries (Greenland), his rhetoric against immigrants and other races, now to issuing ID cards with questionable insignia.

Everyone can see how indoctrination works. For somebody knowledgeable enough to create an email address, get an account on nairaland to post , Its such a shame to peddle such nonsense.

AmazonTopaz:
Hitler what Lol who coined that name?this is the first time I am hearing of it.


I share your views in regards to sympathy but then kids are dying and being affected and I feel sad because children and teenagers should not be suffering because of the foolishness of their parents and loved ones.But then the unvaccinated getting the most heat from this variant deserve what they get

Data says only 28% of blacks are vaccinated.

benalvino3:
France is known to be one of the most vaccine-skeptic nations in the world. i bet they are MAGA
CNN fired 3 of its staff since the Vaccine passport thing - I guess those 3 are MAGA as well. You people want to tie vaccine scepticism on trump but people who knows know it has nothing to do with politics.

Black Americans don't Even trust the vaccine but I guess they are MAGA. The Next time you Will not do your school assignment you will Say MAGA ate your assignment instead of the Dog

Black Americans are lagging in vaccinations.

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-race-ethnicity/

[B]

The CDC reports demographic
characteristics, including race/ethnicity, of
people receiving COVID-19 vaccinations at
the national level. As of August 2, 2021, CDC
reported that race/ethnicity was known for
58% of people who had received at least one
dose of the vaccine. Among this group,
nearly two thirds were White (59%), 10%
were Black, 16% were Hispanic, 6% were
Asian, 1% were American Indian or Alaska
Native, and <1% were Native Hawaiian or
Other Pacific Islander, while 8% reported
multiple or other race. However, CDC data
also show that recent vaccinations are
reaching larger shares of Hispanic, Asian,
and Black populations compared to overall
vaccinations. Twenty-six percent of vaccines
administered in


[/B]

benalvino3:
they want you to believe only people with vaccine are dying which is a lie. any time you see he was anti vaxx and he regrets, just a propaganda use for scare tactic. people should take the vac no problem but people with vacs are dying which is why they all put on the mask even when they are together. at this point the only thing they can do is hide the truth because of the bad effect it will have mentally on people should they need a vaccine in the future.

most people who Die of covid in the UK are fully vaccinated and I have seen people who are complaining about going for the 3rd shot called the booster shot. The language the Pharmaceutical companies use something shows they are not certain. They use the word "Might Need" too much when they talk about Delta Variant and booster shots.

A big show is being made of people who reject the vax, then die of COVID-19. This page has a case.Pre vax people were still dying of it and only a small fraction of those who got infected.
A lot of info is being ignored. Many fully vaccinated have gotten infected. A cruise ship 100% full of vaxxed is quarantining the affected and I think locking down everyone. Congressmen fully vaccinated eg Lindsey Graham tested positive.
A question was raised. If 100% of the pop is vaccinated, it means everyone will have the same level of immunity.If a resistant variant then comes up, it would wreck havoc .

obixcel:
That's what many have been pointing out. It shows double standard and hypocrisy. Why lock people down, mandate mask wearing, Vaccinations and social distance while at the same time the Borders are open and Covid positive Migrants are allowed in in their thousands? Doesn't make sense.

The particular town tested them and found them positive.
And then Chou Bai Den slammed Texas and Florida for vaccination and COVID-19 spread.
Thats my grouse with media. Hundreds of thousands are wading through the border, ignored by media. How many of these super spreader caravans have COVID-19, are they tested, vaccinated and quarantined?

Tdotbluejays:
I get you. It's sometimes hard to have an atom of sympathy such people. The vaccine is free. It's a privilege that some in other parts of the world do not have.

It's also no surprise that the delta variant is hitting the Red states hardest. The Orange Turd and many of his Republican colleagues have allowed a virulent anti-vaccine/anti-masking/anti-social distancing campaign to spread among their voters, reinforced by Fox News and other far-right wing media.

With the emergence of a new and more contagious delta COVID variant, some of their governors, politicians and media started realising that all their campaigns are against their own self-interest i.e. their voters are dying off. It's even sad that their pleads for MAGATs to get vaccinated are falling on deaf ears.

There are people with their reasons for not getting vaccinated.
I'm for vaccines before you accuse me.
What I don't really understand is the figures being touted about That 80% of new cases are delta variant. I have scoured the web and there does not seem any normal test for the strain unless in a complex lab that does genome sequencing. Mumbai got its first genome sequencing lab just two days ago for instance.
Covid tests indicate presence of the rona, not the particular strain.
Im sceptical to an extent of the prevalence of the delta variant, the others variants are still not rooted out.And the fact that there does not seem progress in rolling out a drug to treat the rona. Everything we hear is get vaccinated.

obixcel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUKs3vd6xH8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMbZgbkXafU
Florida Governor, Ron De Santis owned Biden in a conference so much that Biden's handlers didn't even want him to put out a response

Not sure which town on Texas received 7000 immigrants who are COVID-19 positive from Biden admin. Town in lockdown.
If you are allowing infected people the infection rates will go up.
If media could report the truth, I doubt many people would be affected.

PrideofLincoln1:
Gasoline cars will soon phase away but it will be a long time from now. You have to know that most car manufacturing companies are spending Billions of Dollars on the Electric car production now. There's hardly any car manufacturing companies that are not into the new technology now because they know that's the future and that's why they are spending Billions of dollars. Plus it helps with the attention being paid to global warming.

The number of charging stations will need to be a number of times more than gas owing to the time
The electric power needed if from green sources will I think have to be from nuclear.
There is such great fear and opposition to nuclear energy in regards to safety. I think there is some reactors that are not radioactive . And the hazardous waste has a way of being recycled. I read somewhere that its already being done.
As for green energy and carbon non emissions that will take another generation or two.Renewable energy is not reliable depending on the source ie wind, solar . Hydros are massive and limited by the volume and height of the dam.
Geothermal production is in the 1% range required.

EV will come down eventually and loads of investment are especially in public tx systems, power investment, research and production facilities.

PrideofLincoln1:
Depends though. It depends on the station. Sometimes you get fast charge or slow charge and it takes about an hour or two at max. One thing about those Teslas is that it's fun to drive and very fast and quiet but the maintenance is in the high side and only Tesla can work on your vehicle.

Thanks for the info. Gradually the teething problems will be ironed out.
Have a good day.

PrideofLincoln1:
I know about that very well. My wife bought a Tesla a year ago and she charges it at Walgreens just two blocks from our house and she gets about 325 to 350 miles per charge and that's good enough. You don't have to deal with Oil change or Transmission oil change and all the other craps. I used to be weary of it till wifey bought it but i think that's where the future is heading. Here in US, you get a special rebate when you buy an electric vehicle and that goes into several Thousands of Dollars.

A charging station nearby works out for you .
How long does it take to charge?

PrideofLincoln1:
That's the future in Western World and i read somewhere yesterday that GM and Mercedes Benz are saying all their vehicles will be all Electric by 30 years. That's why countries like Saudi Arabia, UAE are diversifying their economies away from oil. Nigeria needs to start looking for alternative now because about 90% of the economy is being prompted by oil sales.

I don't think Ill move there to electric vehicles.
A big issue to me is how far can a single charge get, and the duration it takes to charge.
Looking at simple devices like mobiles and tablets, the biggest money making invention will be an instantaneous charger. Fix this for car batteries and the market will be available.

PrideofLincoln1:
Which citizen ?. The one on Nairaland that doesn't count or what. Go get your visa and get ready for the second inauguration of the 4th Reich.

I don't feel confrontational today.
What is your view on Electric vehicles vis-a-vis gas powered! Think one day the internal combustion engine will be moot?