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Vedax posts long stupid posts deviating from topic raised. In islam muslims are allowed to lie in order to advance the cause of islam. In this thread only he and his muslim friends have no answer to a simple question- why are muslims still killing non muslims 1400 years later? He and all other muslims here have no answers so they engage in lies. Shame on them they cant use islam to answer what they are asked. Allah is the best deceiver from 2 quranic verses.

In a quran Allah says he is the best deceiver. If I was muslim Id have a real prob believing any word from the Best Deceiver.

@vedax please tell us why one cant build a church in saudi arabia. Please tell us why a non muslim cannot set foot in Mecca today.

Hahaha i have been banned there again. This is getting ridiculous. I have not insulted anyone or rather I have not presented false facts about islam in the last hour. Why does Islam prevent free discourse? What is islam trying to hide? Is islam a pure or a very very fake religion? I am sure to never get any answer ever.

Logicboy the mods there also dont like you. Added to my list. We shall know why muslim mods dont like some people and it will come out so openly.

Logicboy03: lol

Nl member, me (basilico), frosbel?? , alexis, etc. Please fill this list. The reason I am starting this thread is that all the OPs the mods there dont like is because they their fellow muslims cant refute their arguments so they resort to hiding or banning their posts. Shame on those who cannot handle the Ugly truth about islam.

Like you I am frequently banned there when islam has no answers. Out of experience I always argue on the quran and the hadiths that muslims there declared as authentic. I was told by muslims there that Bukhari is sahìh. I only quote him directly if I have to else I use the quran. As a word of advice on this thread I would like you to request muslims here to tell us which are their authentic sources. Then we start from there. I hope the mods here dont move it to big mac section. What you want to start should be allowed to go on uninhibited. We have questions from their own sources let them rebutt our arguments. Ill join in later and I promise to only quote the sources the muslims themselves tell us that they are sahìh.

alexis: I am setting up this thread in the religious section (Not under the Islam section) because the moderator for the Islam section hides many of my posts whenever he fells it is necessary. To that effect, I want to discuss an important subject that most people either evade, try to be politically correct about of just too scared to talk about -

I will be talking about the persecution of Christians across the Islamic world. I will be examining recent incidents from across a wide geographical spread, from Morocco to Nigeria to Indonesia-and even sometimes in Western Europe & North America. I will also be delving back into the past to consider the treatment of Christians under Muslim rule from the time of the earliest Islamic conquests.

Christians are being persecuted in Muslim countries today for the same reasons as in the past centuries. And the patterns of persecution-the same motivations, the same actions, and the same horrific results-recur in countries as different as Kenya and Denmark. Those patterns, I will demonstrate, emerge from themes in the Koran, in Islamic theology, in Sharia law, and in Islamic culture.

I will be touching on the large numbers of Christians in Egypt-according to the baptismal records of the Coptic orthodox Church, there are some 16 million Christian Copts in Egypt-prompt regular bursts of anti-Christian persecution. Indeed, as one of the oldest and largest Muslim nations, with one of the oldest and largest Christian populations, Egypt is a kind of paradigm of Islam's treatment of Christian-both in the present and going back more than 13 centuries.

In sub-Saharan countries where Christians often make up half or even more than half of the entire population, persecution gives way to genocidal jihads as Muslims in these countries try to purge their lands of any trace of the "infidel." Nigeria, for example is experiencing appalling violence; the accounts of persecution are only the tip of the iceberg of Christian suffering in Africa. In Nigeria, where Christians make up nearly half the population, we are being offered a rare glimpse of early Islamic history repeating itself, as Muslims use violence to subjugate or kill very large numbers of non-Muslims in the name of Islam and through offensive jihad. That is the true story of Islam's spread from Arabia.

Why am I focusing on the Muslim persecution of Christians? The fact is, while it is true that Christians are also being persecuted in non-Muslims countries, the lion's share of the persecution happens in Muslim countries. But there is another important point: Muslim persecution is much more existential and deeply rooted in Muslim societies. The persecution of Christians in other, mostly communist, nations is very real. It should never be minimized. But the overthrow of, say, the North Korean regime could well end the persecution of Christians over there almost overnight-just as the fall of the Soviet Union saw Christian's persecution come to a quick close in Russia. This is because the persecution of Christians in non-Muslim nations is almost always rooted in secular ideology and tied to a particular political regime. On the other hand, Muslim persecution of Christians is perennial; it transcends any one regime. It is part and parcel of the Islamic religion and the civilization born of it-hence it's tenacity. Thus, the persecution of Christians in the Muslim world is not only a widespread phenomenon that has horrific effects on large numbers of human beings across the globe; it is also a discrete phenomenon, deserving attention in it's own right.

I want to engage Muslims, Christians and anyone interested in this thread to be patient and follow what I have to say and the research I have done on this subject.

Thanks

Sharia law which muslims ran away from in their countries that they seek to effect in Western societies.

When a muslim wants a divorce all if has so do is say the talaq 3 times and wi'll be deemed to have had his divorce. Now when a muslim woman wants a divorce she has to go to a sharia court adjudicated by an Arabic speaking imam.

alexis: That might be relevant where Islam is the dominant political and religious way of life. In the West, you file for divorce. When you marry a woman, both of you marry in the presence of eye-witnesses and in a religious establishment or court of law. So, when you want to divorce her - verbally saying it, isn't enough.

General Sisi is a muslim. He knows like mubarak that the muslim brotherhood is a terrorist organisation bent on returning Egypt to 7th century sharia laws. He looks likely to smother the brotherhood once and for all. He has sealed Gaza border to prevent the brotherhood sympathisers from Sinai. Obama wants the terrorist organisation share in the national cake. The Egyptian military is doing the right thing for posterity. GO SECULAR. Dont listen to clerics wanting a stake in Egypt. Sisi knows that Al Jazeera is the propaganda wing of the brothers. He has banned it while Al Gore network sold their station to them and they are already on air under Obama while Sisi is banning al jazeera. Obama is aiding the brotherhood Soon the Americans will get tired. He even invited them at Al Azhar in 08. Obama refuses to reveal who has visited White House since he came to power. Abedi Huma was hillary clinton adviser and she has brotherhood ties.

I have raised a number of issues about how muslim men deem their women as inferior. Now please inform us that during salat in a mosque men and women sit together and pray as equals. Or do women sit behind men? In the same vein please let us know whether a woman crossing the path of a muslim man praying invalidates his prayer. As in when a man is praying and a woman walks by the prayer is deemed invalid. True or not?

eninn: maclatunji

gazak allah khiran


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let us first study the status of women in societies before the advent of Islam.

1. In the past women were degraded and used as objects of lust

The following examples from history amply illustrate the fact that the status of women in earlier civilizations was very low to the extent that they were denied basic human dignity:

1. Babylonian Civilization:

The women were degraded and were denied all rights under the Babylonian law. If a man murdered a woman, instead of him being punished, his wife was put to death.

2. Greek Civilization:

Greek Civilization is considered the most glorious of all ancient civilizations. Under this very ‘glorious’ system, women were deprived of all rights and were looked down upon. In Greek mythology, an ‘imaginary woman’ called ‘Pandora’ is the root cause of misfortune of human beings. The Greeks considered women to be subhuman and inferior to men. Though chastity of women was precious, and women were held in high esteem, the Greeks were later overwhelmed by ego and sexual perversions. Prostitution became a regular practice amongst all classes of Greek society.

3. Roman Civilization:

When Roman Civilization was at the zenith of its ‘glory’, a man even had the right to take the life of his wife. Prostitution and nudity were common amongst the Romans.

4. Egyptian Civilization:

The Egyptian considered women evil and as a sign of a devil.

5. Pre-Islamic Arabia:

Before Islam spread in Arabia, the Arabs looked down upon women and very often when a female child was born, she was buried alive.

2. Islam uplifted women and gave them equality and expects them to maintain their status

Islam uplifted the status of women and granted them their just rights 1400 years ago. Islam expects women to maintain their status.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJL4YT9zkVA

Be specific about what rights islam granted women. Top on the list is that during the Prophet's time women were never veiled. A companion of the prophet one day identified the prophet's wife when she went to the open fields for a long call. He eagerly desired that the prophet's wife be covered. Allah never to disappoint his messenger therefore brought down a revelation that women should be covered. If i am right the companion later became a caliph after muhammad (saw) death. I did not cook this up Its in your early islamic writings. Before Islam women were uncovered, with the advent of islam they now cover. Did Khadija wear a veil? So much for women's rights under Islam.

If a man issues the talak 3 times in a minute out of anger he is deemed to have divorced his wife. But because i t was out of temporal anger He may want her back. Unfortunately he cannot re.marry his wife until she marries another man, consumates her new marriage and then gets divorced. Islam indeed has great respect for women.

Islam turns many muslims into horribly incorrigible retards that have no hope of ever developing independent thought process. THATS al I have to say.

I know a lot about islam than you. Islamophobe is a phrase coined by brain washed muslims to deter critics of islam like me to call ou the violent nature of the quran. Islamophobe is supposed to be a denigration of racism such that anyone who correctly quotes that islam is a religion of violence is slandered as a racist based on the fact that most whites are white and most muslims are non whites like the Fulanis Hausa et al.

striktlymi: Basil now I suspect you are Islamophobic.

As i said the Americans are seeing throug this bull.shit. The bikers are organising a 2 million march in Washington the same day. Loud long haired tattoed red necks on huge (Harley Davies) bikes. 2 million of them. I am sure the cowardly muslims will back down and not hold their heroic march. The cowardly muslims cant risk confrontation with this group. I might fly over and join them.