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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:58pm On Jun 23
DeepSight:
You cant be this daft.
Explain why I'm daft.
That was a flawed process that Congress used to impeach trump.
You wanted evidence , I gave you . You result to insults.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:55pm On Jun 23
DeepSight:
What else do we expect from a QAnon flat-earther
Redhettings . Since when did NYT i echo qanon.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:49pm On Jun 23
DeepSight:
Congress is independent.
Take a moment to read this whistleblower investigation. Eric Ciaramela is the main name redacted.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:47pm On Jun 23
DeepSight:
They voted him once.
Correction. Trump won 3 times.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:45pm On Jun 23
DeepSight:
Nothing to do with media.

You are the one who is determined to canonize an obvious and self admitted sexual deviant and paedophile.
Epstein didn't have anything about Trump to offer to Maureen Comey .
Let that sink in. Take a break from here and have a meeting with yourself.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:25pm On Jun 23
DeepSight:
Stop wasting your energy trying to claim that Trump is not a rapist and paedophile. He evidently is.

Re: Gaddafi, that was bad but Trump is also a murderer.
You are just intransigent.. that's NYT reporting what Epstein wrote.
Who would have been the lead prosecutor had he not died? Maureen Comey, James Comey daughter. She requested millions of documents SDNY had on Epstein to be sealed , the documents that Trump had unsealed . She was fired and has been fighting back. No friend of Trump.
At the same time SDNY was quick enough to jail Build the Wall founder , a Trump supporter.

Media and democrats have done a serious number on you and your soul.
When it comes to Trump extrapolating your thinking screeches to a halt.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:10pm On Jun 23
DeepSight:
I dont know, but many for sure, from both sides.
This was 6 days ago.
NYT found handwritten notes , Epstein trying to link Trump but failed because he had nothing.

We obtained about a dozen pages of other notes handwritten by Epstein in jail that were also previously unseen — including some in which he tried and failed to come up with significant information he might have on Donald Trump to offer to prosecutors," the report stated

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/handwritten-epstein-notes-found-confirm-he-wanted-to-hurt-trump-as-badly-as-possible-wasn-t-friend-at-all/ar-AA25UdYL

He ended up mentioning Trump CFO who was thoroughly investigated and found to have committed a very serious crimes if not reporting the limousine from Trump org as a benefit. Plus I think a condo. Worse crimes than killing Gadaffi.
Don't stop banging that head of yours on the wall.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:54pm On Jun 23
DeepSight:
Because its not only Trump there. A gang of many powerful people are there.
Bill Clinton?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:46pm On Jun 23
DeepSight:
Can you be precise about what "the whole world" of tourists are shocked at?
That America is a developed country or what?
Please tell.
You must be listening to evil media.

I generally don’t watch sports and can honestly say that I have never watched a World Cup. I have, however, been following this year’s World Cup happenings with great interest — and no, I’m not talking about the soccer. I have lived in Europe for many years, along with my Polish-born wife and our daughter. Europe is a beautiful place, full of cultural riches, awe-inspiring architecture, scenic landscapes, and a wealth of history. Oxford, England, and Kraków, Poland, are easily two of the most beautiful places I’ve ever visited but represent only a small sampling of the wonders Europe has to offer.

Europe, however, is also full of people who have never been to the U.S. and are more than comfortable denigrating Americans as entitled, arrogant, idiotic hicks. European mainstream media outlets frequently cast the U.S. as some borderline-fascist state run by an unhinged tyrant and populated by violent, gun-toting maniacs. When Joe Biden was in the White House, European media still portrayed the U.S. as some kind of Nazi-adjacent regime, with Biden and his degenerate cronies as the progressive “good guy” underdogs fighting a morally, ideologically corrupt system. Not all Europeans fall for the bait, of course, but even many of Europe’s more conservative peoples (many of the Polish, for example) see videos of Pride parades in Los Angeles or New York City and presume that the entire U.S. must be some kind of left-wing LGBT Mecca.

Most of the music I listen to — and play out loud around the house, in the car, while playing family board games, while cooking, etc. — is country music, which my wife is beginning to find tiresome after nearly three years of marriage. One song, in particular, really irks her. The chorus goes, “The European mind is ignorant and blind to the beauty of the USA at the Circle K.” For those who don’t know, Circle K is a gas station and convenience store chain founded in El Paso, Texas. Ironically, I have never seen a Circle K in the U.S., although there are over 7,300. In fact, the first time I saw a Circle K was in Ireland. But the song’s point at least partly stands: Many Europeans are ignorant and blind to the beauty of the USA.

As an American with friends and family in and from Europe, it pains me to see so many Europeans misunderstand my homeland, malign my homeland, and fail to see the European roots from which America sprang. This year’s World Cup, hosted by America, has therefore been a joy to witness. Again, I am not talking about the soccer. I don’t think I’ve actually watched a game of soccer since my little sister played on the local co-op team a decade or so ago. No, I’m talking about watching Europeans discover America — and fall absolutely in love with my homeland. Here are a few examples:

Freddy is a German who landed in New York City last week wearing a German soccer jersey on his way to Atlanta for one of the World Cup games. Over the past week, he has gained hundreds and thousands of new followers on X while documenting his journey across the U.S. While Freddy started off describing the Atlanta metro as “scary,” comparing it to a Grand Theft Auto video game lobby with “one person next to us taking off his shirt and declaring war on Donald Trump while another person is moonwalking across the platform,” he quickly discovered the beauty of rural Georgia once he made it out of the city. Stone Mountain, Walmart, Gainesville, Waffle House, the Chattahoochee River, Wendy’s, Brasstown Bald, Freddy fell in love with it all. Next stop was Tennessee, where Freddy enjoyed some food at Chili’s, shared some beautiful lakeside footage, and climbed Lookout Mountain near Chattanooga. In Alabama, Freddy marveled at the generosity of American hospitality.

“I love Americans,” he shared. “We were about to walk an hour to the stadium in the rain to save on an Uber, and the receptionist at the hotel we were parked in front of decided to drive us there.” When a bald eagle soared into the soccer stadium in Auburn, Freddy commented, “This is the most ‘The European mind can’t comprehend this’ moment of my life.” Then, of course, Freddy found Buc-ee’s, the quintessentially American gas station-and-country store chain with a baseball cap-wearing beaver as its mascot, and the enormous Bass Pro Shops Outdoor World shopping centers, complete with live freshwater aquariums. Upon arriving in Fairhope, Alabama, Freddy wrote, “I’m in a place right now that’s so beautiful I’m probably about to make 50 posts about it.”

Then there’s Leah, a British girl who flew into Los Angeles. “Before I go and watch England win the 2026 World Cup I’m off to enjoy some beautiful American culture,” she said in a post on Wednesday. Leah marveled at how low many of the prices are in the U.S. while shopping before having a burger at In-N-Out. “The most expensive state in the USA still has cheaper fuel than the U.K.,” she commented, regarding gas prices in California. “The USA is so much fun, there is no where on earth as fun as this place,” Leah posted from a restaurant pub in L.A. Leah also marveled at the kindness of Americans, even in California. “Bit embarrassing, but I sneezed in public earlier and 3 Americans said ‘God bless you’ straight after. Not even just a simple bless you. … Genuinely the most American statement I’ve ever heard I genuinely love you guys.” She continued, “The more time I spend in America the more I realise it’s not just fast food, hotdogs, large trucks and the Simpsons. There is so much real culture here and friendly, down-to-earth people. I know a lot of people have picked up on this now but it’s genuinely shocked me.”

Shaun is a Scotsman who is also visiting America for the World Cup. “As a Scot in America for the World Cup, I can safely say that the beauty of the South is astounding,” he posted upon arriving in the USA. Shaun enjoyed barbecue ribs, visited the Alamo, and was awarded honorary Texan citizenship in San Antonio, where the city’s Scottish Society greeted him with bagpipes. “At this point, I should just stay here if y’all will have me?” he asked, already evincing a higher degree of cultural assimilation than most immigrants from third world countries. “Good morning America! The smell of freedom and brisket permeates my dreams. I’ve moved north to NYC briefly, and then Boston, as I follow Scotland to World Cup glory,” Shaun posted on Friday. “I have MUCH MORE to experience across America, and I’ll be back in the South for sure. For now, I’m following my country in your country.”

Another Brit, 19-year-old Skylar, lamented as she was leaving the U.K. for the U.S. that her home country has become “unsafe.” After having been in the U.S. for less than 48 hours, she reported, “Haven’t seen any crime… Haven’t had any bad food… Haven’t had any rain… Haven’t encountered any rude people… Sorry, but America just does it better.” Like many other Europeans visiting the U.S. for the World Cup, Skylar was amazed at American hospitality. “I came to America expecting a great World Cup. What I didn’t expect was how welcoming everyone would be. Every local I’ve met has been desperate to recommend places to visit, food to try and things to see. Americans, thank you,” she said. “Everyone told me Americans were unfriendly, but they hold doors open, stop when you’re crossing the road, say hello in the street etc… Why do people assume Americans aren’t like this?”

Swedish traveler Elsa started her World Cup trip in Indiana, enjoying small-town diners and discovering that the Amish are real. “Indiana is exactly how I dreamed America would be. Small towns, wide open spaces, cornfields, barns, cute houses, diners, water towers, friendly people, great food, American flags everywhere, and so much more!” she posted on her way to California. Elsa was also astounded by the fact that Americans have high-speed wi-fi on domestic flights. “What are we doing wrong in Europe? The USA has completely radicalised me within 48 hours,” she commented. Frequent social media users will be aware that some Europeans have recently been mocking Americans for not having passports, clearly not comprehending the scale and beauty of the U.S. Elsa gets it. “I kinda understand why a lot of Americans never leave the country, like why would you? It has everything,” she said.

There are countless more examples, but it all goes to show that the European mind (before leaving Europe) cannot comprehend the scale, beauty, and warmth of the USA. But once the European mind does comprehend, the European heart falls in love. As wonderful as it is to see Europeans, whose continent has been such a treasure to me, discover and become enchanted by the beauty of my own homeland, this outpouring of love for America should also stand as a reminder for Americans that our nation is beautiful. As the 250th Independence Day draws nearer and nearer, now just a few weeks away, many Americans are focused on political divisions, intra-party disputes, and news headlines, taking for granted the richness and the joys of our homeland. Our European brethren have a lesson for us: America is a place of beauty, wonder, warmth, innovation, and American excellence.

For anyone watching the World Cup (I’m not), planning an extravagant Fourth of July (I am), or just trying to make it through the day, take some time to look around your homeland and understand why European visitors are falling in love, why your ancestors fought and died for this land, and why it’s worth falling in love with yourself. Visit a nearby national park, take a long drive through a small town, plan a summer road trip with friends or family, immerse yourself in America’s natural beauty, her people, her culture, her history. If the European mind can comprehend America — and fall in love with her — then so can you.

𝑊𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑛 𝑏𝑦 𝑆.𝐴. 𝑀𝑐𝐶𝑎𝑟𝑡ℎ𝑦. 𝑃𝑢𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑠ℎ𝑒𝑑 𝑏𝑦 𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑊𝑎𝑠ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑡𝑜𝑛 𝑆𝑡𝑎𝑛𝑑.
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by basilico: 3:41pm On Jun 23
LordReed:
Bro how can you violate what was not yet in force?
Negotiations don't take one day. It's a process .
When you are making arrangements to marry , you stop seeing other girlfriends.
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by basilico: 11:46am On Jun 23
By the time the JPCOA was being signed ,they had already started to assemble faster centrifuges on a scale larger than necessary to get to 3.7%
The jcpoa agreement was stupid. IAEA inspectors had to give a 24 day notice to inspect any plant. Iran simply declared that some facilities were national security installations and blocked the inspectors totally. Else within 24 days Iran could easily hide whatever they were doing.




EnkayDezign:
You’re just being disingenuous and dishonest because they enriched to 60% in 2021 specifically because Trump cancelled Obama’s JCPOA in 2018 (a year after getting into office). Which means they waited for him to change his mind all through his first term which ended in January of 2021. We now all know that he didn’t, so again that was his fault.

I said you’re being disingenuous because I’m sure you were thinking just because they enriched to 60% in 2021 then it must have been Biden’s fault but we’re not all dumb. Trump’s first presidency actually ended in January of 2021.
Iran aiwats looks for an excuse to break any agreement. Hezbollah attacks Israel, which retaliates Iran cancel the swiss talks
It's a pattern that the blind can see
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by basilico: 8:35am On Jun 23
Tell them.

nobilie:
Iran plants and sponsors terrorists round the world. During Buhari's govt, heavy shipments of arms came from Iran to Nigeria moved to the north. It was cos of Iran's shipments that the terrorist govt of buhari created dry port in Kaduna.
Iran and Turkey can not be separated from terror in nigeria
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by basilico: 8:34am On Jun 23
LordReed:
The enrichment was increased AFTER TRUMP tore up the JCPOA, so go figure.

BTW Trump said Iran is allowed to have missile so go talk to him.
Before the JPCOA was signed , Iran had already started violating it
Do you want to know how?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:20am On Jun 23
Unlike Obama and Biden who praised their job creation on hiring hundreds of thousands to federal jobs, Trump has cut off 370,000 federal workforce employees .
Conservatives believe in a lean functioning government.
Liberals believe in a big all encompassing government.

***Trump administration is still seeing rapid growth in employee payrolls driven by the private sector***

During their respective tenures, the Obama administration added roughly 143,000 to 145,000 executive branch civilian employees, while the Biden administration added approximately 132,000 to 150,000 civilian employees to the direct federal workforce.

Biden Department of Labour Statistics lied about the jobs created.

1. The 2024 Revision (Period: April 2023 – March 2024)
What they initially claimed
:
The administration's monthly reports indicated that the U.S. economy had added roughly 2.9 million jobs during this 12-month window.
The actual numbers:
In August 2024, the BLS issued a preliminary benchmark revision slashing that number by 818,000 jobs.
The difference:
The actual job growth was ~2.1 million, meaning the initial monthly estimates had over-inflated the job market's strength by roughly 30%.

2. The 2025 Revision (Period: April 2024 – March 2025)
What they initially claimed
:
Monthly data accumulated through the end of the Biden administration and early 2025 initially showed continued robust monthly expansion.
The actual numbers:
In September 2025, the annual BLS benchmark data forced an even larger downward revision of 911,000 jobs.
The difference:
The economy actually added nearly 1 million fewer jobs than the administration's initial figures stated, averaging a downward drop of roughly 76,000 jobs per month over that year.



happney65:
BREAKING: Mass firings have reportedly begun at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence after acting DNI Bill Pulte launched a sweeping effort to shrink the agency.

According to CNN, offices were ordered to rank employees ahead of the cuts, with the National Counterterrorism Center and the National Counterintelligence and Security Center expected to be among the hardest hit. A source familiar with the matter described the move by saying, "The deep state firings have begun."

The layoffs come just days after Pulte, who was appointed by Donald Trump on an acting basis, reportedly arrived at the agency early and requested a list of every employee. Trump had publicly instructed Pulte to carry out an immediate downsizing of the office.

Top Democrats on the House and Senate Intelligence Committees are warning that the cuts could undermine the agency's ability to protect national security, arguing that ODNI was created after the September 11 attacks to improve coordination across the intelligence community and help prevent future terrorist attacks. They also questioned whether an acting director should be making such sweeping structural changes without consulting Congress.

REUTERS
Bill Pulte is following a government policy to reduce the workforce. Those being laid off are supposedly professionals who are easily getting absorbed by the private sector. Sometimes it's an advantage to get laid off and immediately land another private sector job. You collect your govt benefits ,pay off your mortgage then move on to a well paying private sector job if you have the skills.
** If you don't ,you can always take Joe Biden advice. learn to code. ***
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:09am On Jun 23
Democrats can't stand the thought of Trump getting anything positive achieved.

KAROLINE LEAVITT: SIX ARRESTS AT REFLECTING POOL — MANY LONGTIME DEMOCRAT DONORS AND ACTBLUE BACKERS BEHIND THE VANDALISM

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt delivered the latest on the Reflecting Pool vandalism during an appearance on Hannity.

“There’s actually been six arrests at the reflecting pool where these deranged individuals — many of them longtime donors to the Democrat Party, to Barack Obama, to ActBlue — that have been vandalizing and desecrating our federal monument,” Leavitt said.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:04am On Jun 23
I have sent that yet ,with any story pushed by evil media there's usually another view that emerges later.
I'll respond when I'm duly informed which may be agreeing with you or not.

GracieX3:
Did you like how Trump/Vance were snubbed by Iranians in Switzerland?

Reduced to begging for audience!! A whole American presidency!! Strongest leader in the world!!!
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:58am On Jun 23
GracieX3:
Benalvino3, Ramdeuter, Bemeruca, Basilico,


At this point, how are you still MAGA and supporting Trump? Did you see how he was disgraced by EU leaders?

The war in Iran has been a disgrace. JD Vance is struggling to negotiate the fallout from the war.

Americans are seeing inflation and they are being priced out of their own economy. Gas prices going up.

Epstein files- no progress. DOGE is a failure.

The only thing Trump has for himself is deportations. Even that too has come at the cost of the demonisation of ICE.

I'm really hoping for a bloodbath this midterms
There is no agreement yet, stop splitting hairs.
It's an MoU to make sure countries like Iraq,UAE and Kuwait get to export their oil freely.
Saudi has an alternate pipeline thats at least bringing them money.
Am I right oil dropped to $76 with the announcement from it's highest $126?
Know who benefits when the Strait is closed? Russia and Lloyd's of London.
Global markets are bigger than Trump's ego.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:49am On Jun 23
Feedthenation,let's backtrack a little,though I know you never respond when you are proven wrong.


feedthenation:
---It is important to separate evidence-based findings from political speculation---

1. There is no credible or substantiated evidence that Obama was personally involved in orchestrating any fraudulent activities related to the 2016 election. Claims suggesting "treasonous actions" by Obama, Brennan, or Comey have not been proven in any court of law or official investigation. This latest unclassified information is just a diversion created by Tulsi to find favour with Felon 47. Despite frequent political claims, no grand jury indictments, arrests, or charges have been brought against Obama-era officials for treason, election fraud, or spying.
Do you still stand by the above about Obama ? I have posted about him ordering Brennan,Comey and Clapper to rewrite the ICA assessment on Dec 9-10 ,2016. Months of CIA intelligence about the Nov 2016 election had concluded that Russia didn't have the ability to substantially affect the election. This assessment was in a Presidential Daily Briefing to be presented to Obama on Dec 9 ,2016 if I'm right.
At that time Trump was president elect ,he would have also seen the exact assessment.
So Obama IC blocked it
and rewrote another assessment saying the opposite.

2. The Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) from January 2017, which was endorsed by the CIA, FBI, and NSA, concluded that Russia did interfere in the 2016 election with the intent to help Donald Trump. This was also supported by the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee report released under Marco Rubio’s leadership - who have since lost his political stand associating with Felon 47
The revised untruthful Assessment was rewritten by 5 people including Eric Ciaramela who later became the whistleblower on the sham impeachment 1. It was redone on two weeks instead of the usually months long process and released on Jan 5-7 before the inauguration.
Only 3 iC agencies signed in , FBI, CIA, and DNi. These three were part of those who has been personally ordered to make up the lie. Clapper told NSA director he had to sign in ,which NSA eventually did but gave it very low confidence.
Brennan ordered the Steele Dossier to be included while he knew very well it was full of lies and against the views of the 5 analysts who redrafted the ICA.

If you want to respond I can repost the redrafted ICA released by Tulsi Gabbard

3. Devin Nunes and House Intelligence: The 2018 report by the House Intelligence Committee under Nunes did conclude that there was no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, but it did not dispute that Russia interfered in the election. The Senate report, more detailed and bipartisan, confirmed Russian interference

4. On RICO and Hillary Clinton: No RICO case has been brought against Clinton, Obama officials, or judges. However, 11 associates of Felon 47 have charged with crimes notably:

Tom Barack - who was the chairman of Felon 47 Inaguaral Committee - charges with illegal foreign lobbying on behalf of UAE
Steve Bannon - charged with fraud in August 2020 for a fundraising scam tied to raising dollars to build Felon 47 border wall
Elliott Broidy - who was a top fundraiser for Felon 47’s 2016 presidential campaign, pleaded guilty in October 2020 to conducted a secret lobbying campaign in exchange for millions of dollars
Michael Cohen - Felon 47's lawyer - he was sentenced to three years in prison for a series of crimes, most notably secret hush-money payments made during the final months of the 2016 presidential campaign to two women alleging affairs with Felon 47
Michael Flynn - lied to the FBI about his contact with Russia during the transition and had also done work for Turkey as an unauthorized lobbyist.
Rick Gates - who was deputy to the campaign chairman of Felon 47 2016 campaign, pleaded guilty to aiding and abetting Paul Manafort in concealing $75 million in foreign bank accounts
Paul Manafort - Felon 47 campaign manager for part of the 2016 presidential campaign, Manafort pleaded guilty in 2018 to on count of conspiracy against the US and one count of conspiracy to obstruct justice due to attempts to tamper with witnesses
George Nader - an informal foreign policy adviser to Felon 47’s 2016 campaign, Nader cooperated heavily with special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election. In early 2020, he pleaded guilty to two counts of sex crimes involving minors - amazing that Felon 47 associates with people who are pdf-files
George Papadopoulos - a relatively junior adviser to Felon 47 campaign, was sentenced to 12 days in prison for lying to investigators about his contacts with individuals tied to Russia
Roger Stone - he was convicted in November 2019 for lying to Congress and threatening a witness regarding his efforts for Trump’s campaign. Felon 47 pardoned him in Dec 2020
Allen Weisselberg - the longtime chief financial officer for the Trump Organization was charged with tax crimes tied to perks he was given in lieu of salary
---The question is why Felon 47 association with shady characters---

5. You are still on the Hunter Biden and the laptop which have been part of numerous investigations, but it's not tied to election fraud in 2016, apart from been a druggie and falsification of his gun application, what other crimes have Hunter committed
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:26am On Jun 23
Who was crying about USAID being defunded?

basilico:


In Brazil the left Lule jailed the conservatives Bolsanaro for 27 years, charges of refusing to accept the election results. Supreme Court judge released Lule from prison, cleared him.to run for election , then charged and jailed Bolsanaro with no recourse for appeal
Bolsanaro son has also been jailed in absentia for 4 years by the same Supreme Court judge.
Reason he went to America to seek overseas support to have his father freed. Lule had USAID and Dominion system on his side then.

That would have happened to Trump. Jail him and everyone else who agreed with him.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:00am On Jun 23
Wikipedia co-founder has been indefinitely banned by the current leftists from editing any page .

https://nypost.com/2026/06/22/tech/left-leaning-wikipedia-blocked-founder-from-editing-site-after-he-campaigned-to-make-it-more-balanced/

Whatever their reason , they owe their positions to him.. His crime. Pointing out the liberal bias that took over Wikipedia.

Another example of the left being intolerant to any view they don't agree with .

Similar to what democrat supporters on this thread prefer Trump supporters be locked out. I personally have not blocked anyone , I'll skip over simply any post I dont like . They behave like overgrown cry babies
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:52am On Jun 23
My response to the nonsense of the beautiful Iran deal .

[i]If Iran had obeyed the JPCOA agrreement, full compliance through Year 10 would have resulted in the following outcomes.
1.
Lifting of Centrifuge Manufacturing Bans
Iran would have been legally permitted to drastically upgrade its enrichment technology.Advanced Production: The strict cap on manufacturing advanced centrifuges would expire. Iran could begin building complete, highly efficient IR-6 and IR-8 centrifuges at a rate of up to 200 machines per year.
Infrastructure Upgrades:
Iran would gain the right to install the necessary infrastructure at its Natanz facility to support these rapid-enrichment cascades.

2. Full Termination of UN and EU Nuclear Sanctions
October 18, 2025, was designated as "Termination Day" under UN Security Council Resolution 2231. Had Iran complied:
UN Security Council Exit: The United Nations would have officially closed Iran’s nuclear file and removed it from the Security Council agenda.
Permanent Sanctions Relief: All remaining UN and European Union nuclear-related economic and architectural sanctions would have been permanently lifted, rather than just suspended.
3.
Expiration of the "Snapback" Mechanism
The JCPOA’s controversial snapback mechanism—which allowed any original participant to unilaterally reinstate sweeping UN sanctions if Iran violated the deal—was bound by a strict 10-year expiration date. After October 2025, Western powers would have lost the ability to bypass a UN Security Council veto to punish Iran with automated international sanctions.

4. Transition toward a "Nuclear Threshold State
"While Iran would still be bound by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) prohibiting actual weaponization, the lifting of the 10-year caps would have significantly shortened its "breakout time" (the time required to enrich enough weapon-grade uranium for a bomb).
Critics argued this timeline would allow Iran to legally scale up its enrichment capacity to an industrial level, effectively solidifying its status as a recognized nuclear threshold



Stop your propaganda. Today had they obeyed the deal Iran would be free to enrich Uranium to whatever level, free from sanctions.
Today they would egally have a nuclear bomb

Obama gave them a pathway to the nuclear bomb carefully tying the hands of the international community after 10 years. I can tell you for a fact, there was not a single good thing in the deal . Not a single one.It was to be a total capitulation after 10 years .

Trump has bombed those centrifuges they built. The negotiated settlement denands Iran to hand over all the 440 kg of the 60% HEU to America .
There is no pathway to the bomb in the proposed negotiations simple
As for the money Iran recieved an immediate cash $1.7 billion in pallets it's annual oil exports are around $45 billiom. [/i]

budaatum:
I'm posting you here so those maga intelligent nairaland geopolitics first class expert PhD professors won't miss it.

https://www.nairaland.com/8696091/trump-vs-obama-iran-deal
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by basilico:
If Iran had obeyed the JPCOA agrreement, full compliance through Year 10 would have resulted in the following outcomes.
1.
Lifting of Centrifuge Manufacturing Bans
Iran would have been legally permitted to drastically upgrade its enrichment technology.Advanced Production: The strict cap on manufacturing advanced centrifuges would expire. Iran could begin building complete, highly efficient IR-6 and IR-8 centrifuges at a rate of up to 200 machines per year.
Infrastructure Upgrades:
Iran would gain the right to install the necessary infrastructure at its Natanz facility to support these rapid-enrichment cascades.

2. Full Termination of UN and EU Nuclear Sanctions
October 18, 2025, was designated as "Termination Day" under UN Security Council Resolution 2231. Had Iran complied:
UN Security Council Exit: The United Nations would have officially closed Iran’s nuclear file and removed it from the Security Council agenda.
Permanent Sanctions Relief: All remaining UN and European Union nuclear-related economic and architectural sanctions would have been permanently lifted, rather than just suspended.
3.
Expiration of the "Snapback" Mechanism
The JCPOA’s controversial snapback mechanism—which allowed any original participant to unilaterally reinstate sweeping UN sanctions if Iran violated the deal—was bound by a strict 10-year expiration date. After October 2025, Western powers would have lost the ability to bypass a UN Security Council veto to punish Iran with automated international sanctions.

4. Transition toward a "Nuclear Threshold State
"While Iran would still be bound by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) prohibiting actual weaponization, the lifting of the 10-year caps would have significantly shortened its "breakout time" (the time required to enrich enough weapon-grade uranium for a bomb).
Critics argued this timeline would allow Iran to legally scale up its enrichment capacity to an industrial level, effectively solidifying its status as a recognized nuclear threshold



Stop your propaganda. Today had they obeyed the deal Iran would be free to enrich Uranium to whatever level, free from sanctions.
Today they would egally have a nuclear bomb

Obama gave them a pathway to the nuclear bomb carefully tying the hands of the international community after 10 years. I can tell you for a fact, there was not a single good thing in the deal . Not a single one.It was to be a total capitulation after 10 years .

Trump has bombed those centrifuges they built. The negotiated settlement denands Iran to hand over all the 440 kg of the 60% HEU to America .
There is no pathway to the bomb in the proposed negotiations simple
As for the money Iran recieved an immediate cash $1.7 billion in pallets it's annual oil exports are around $45 billiom.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:26pm On Jun 22
Biden is corrupt.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:50am On Jun 22
He doesn't go to conservative media. Communication problems you have.
He's obviously done a few ,not once on the last 10 years when his mask started getting pulled off.
Maybe he thinks conservatives have a bad body orduor.

LordReed:
Bro your attempt to shift the goal post won't distract from your lies. This was your initial statement:



Which was your response to my comment on his presidency.



Keep lying o!
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:24am On Jun 22
LordReed:
Bro you lie like a faucet. The video is even clearly labelled contentious but here you are lying that it was a softball. GTFOH with your lies.
The charlatan has held over 100 press interviews since leaving the presidency.
None with a conservative media house

He is afraid of being asked real questions. Coward of the Country. From 2010 Obama held no more than 6 interviews with conservative media houses.
Compare to Trump

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:35am On Jun 22


In Brazil the left Lule jailed the conservatives Bolsanaro for 27 years, charges of refusing to accept the election results. Supreme Court judge released Lule from prison, cleared him.to run for election , then charged and jailed Bolsanaro with no recourse for appeal
Bolsanaro son has also been jailed in absentia for 4 years by the same Supreme Court judge.
Reason he went to America to seek overseas support to have his father freed. Lule had USAID and Dominion system on his side then.

That would have happened to Trump. Jail him and everyone else who agreed with him.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Look at how blacks in Africa treat other blacks.
Start with how the rich treat their poor tribesmen.
I know a politician who walks around with a hand sanitizer when he goes to the village. He grew up in poverty himself.
How the major poor tribesmen treat other poor minor tribespeople.
How the bigger tribe treats smaller tribes .
How diaspora blacks treat their brethren back home

Would be a disaster if we swapped places
We have our own problems .



benalvino3:
I think a lot of Black people are not self-aware enough to admit that, given the same power, we could be far worse than the white man they constantly love to condemn.

Bayelsaowei, Deepsight, IjeBos and others who often speak with this us versus them mentality should ask themselves:

What would Black people do if we had the global power white people have had?

If I should answer, I'd say 10x worse...
Because when you look at tribalism, ethnic hatred, corruption, xenophobia and how Africans treat other Africans, the evidence is not beans.

Look at South Africa. A popular xenophobic activist is attacking Nelson Mandela as a sellout because he promoted reconciliation and supposedly spoke for foreigners. Black South Africans are threatening and attacking other Black Africans, yet many of the same people will lecture the world endlessly about racism and white oppression.

Maybe the truth is that many people do not actually hate racism, oppression or domination. They only hate being the victims of it.

Give them power, and they may become worse than the people they spent generations condemning.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:18am On Jun 22
LordReed:
Bro you LIED and now want to deflect from your LIE by shifting the goal post. Na who dey follow you I dey pity.
He doesn't go to enemedia , it's that simple. An interview in 2010 is no proof that he goes .
Trump is always being interviewed by very hostile political hacks . He has won $$$ after they edited out parts to make him look bad. He won against a network who twisted Kamala Harris answers to make her sound sensible.
Obama always gets softball questions. Questions that are sent to him days before. That way he looks smart and eloquent not the stuttering mess he is when a teleprompter suddenly breaks down .
Hillary Clinton had a townhall in 2016. It didn't go her way , the questions were not what she expected. After it was Iver she flew into a rage , flung glasses towards her aides using filthy curse words. One person said he had never come across such a vile woman.

It's mainstream media who lie on behalf of democrats.
Sadly you are a victim ,question is whether you are too far gone to realize it. Whether you are redeemable remains to be seen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc?si=EvMhJvuaLW7QuDY9
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
cococandy:
What state do you live in? You could focus on what’s going on there. Maybe?
I'm sworn to bash holier than thou liberals. Liberals always accusing Trump of being corrupt while they are the masters of corruption.

Governor Newscum probe .

https://nypost.com/2026/06/20/opinion/the-gavin-newsom-probe-is-serious-and-he-knows-it/
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:47am On Jun 21
Cococandy.
Xavier Baccera is your nominee to replace Newscum.
A whistleblower came forward and said Dr Fauci had lied to Congress about his department ever funding gain of function research .
The rule is that the Office of the Inspector General gets the complaint and investigates it
This whistleblower complaint instead went to the HHS secretary Xavier Baccera ,Fauci Boss who promptly buried it but sacrificed that infamous name I keep mentioning,Dr Daszak .His outfit was banned from receiving funds for only 5 years.

https://truthbasedmedia.com/the-covid-cover-up-ran-through-xavier-becerras-office/

There is also his former Chief of Staff, Sean McCluskie who has been indicted on 23 counts of fraud. Not a Mr Clean image to manage the wealthiest state in the world.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:40am On Jun 21
GracieX3:
Can you stop lying?
2010 interview when everyone thought he wasn't an evil person?

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