Outstrip: South suburbs. I used to live in park forest. I miss chicago
chicago is fun besides the weather. where do you stay now.
[quote author=na_so link=topic=347596.msg4875737#msg4875737 date=1257536545]If you believe in christian doctrine , it is clearly stated in the bible.
Yes may be the "submission" talk is to heavy in our time, how about who leads? Do you have questions as to who the leader should be and who created the rule too?[/quote]I don't buy into the christian doctrine theory. The bible was written in a time where women were subordinated. It's no surprise, a woman is expected to submit according to the Bible.
Marriage is a partnership, the choice to "submit" should be the choice of individual couples. There are marriages where the woman is the active partner by the way.
VALENCI: poverty mentality will make a man become afraid of a successful woman. No matter the height she has attained, she was created to submit to a man. I want to marry a very successful woman and we both will work it out.
why must a woman submit to a man? who created such rule?
maedan: After this they'd probably think twice about letting even American Muslims get into the US Army. No one knows his motives up till now. Such senseless killing. But isn't it funny that nine out of ten of these shooters/gunmen all end up being killed before we can get any real answers?? Food for thought.
why should they think twice about letting american muslims in the military?
he was an american citizen born in the US. It would be wrong to generalize his action as representative of Muslims in the army. He isn't dead by the way. He is in stable condition and would have a chance to tell his story. it's strange the military had warning signs for 6 months and did nothing.
The thing western brainwashing does to people . . . to make them believe and want to celebrate Halloween Santa, Valentine, Homosexuality and the false hypothesis of Evolution . . . even though science evidently shows that the universe is too designed for life for it not to have been created.
this is funny considering you practice a westernized form of Christianity. Your Great-grand parents weren't reading the king james bible. who exactly is celebrating homosexuality in this thread.
He does not understand when Deep Sight stated that some of us seek and are constantly seeking knowledge and we critically review what comes in IN DETAIL and don't just accept because of populist or fashionable reasons.
All these their gay arguments I had reviewed well over time before I took my position on it, so that I am not ignorant and can hold watertight arguments.
lmao i guess their love wasn't strong enough . Homosexuality and bisexuality does exist in the wild though.
Bawomolo, has never confirmed that speculation but I think his own is just on the premise of "as minimum as possible, preferably none, set of rules in the world".
But I would give him a chance to respond.
Bawo, over to you. Do you have a close individual (family or friend) that you are very loyal to that is gay?
nah i have no gay family members (well not in the open) but you know my stance on morality. If it doesn't affect humanity, why bother?
I do believe in minimum government interference in our personal lives especially on the issue of civil liberty. what's your beef with sefago?
If they think they can cure that, why can't they cure homosexuality?
why should homosexuality be cured? reminds me of the x-men movie there was a cure for the mutant gene. if homosexuals are fine with who they are, don't tamper with them.
The disgust level inevitably brings, and deserves, judgement if the act is displayed or promoted publicly until it is proven natural?
why does disgust "level" require judgment. why not just turn the other cheek? i see no reason why we should judge people because they don't appeal to us. appreciate the diversity or just turn the other cheek as long as no one is being exploited.
Godmother: God does not require you to be hungry before he answers your prayers. What fasting does is that it weakens the flesh and brings out your spiritman so you can talk to Him better
why do you need a weekend flesh to talk to God better?
as for their breast, most of them dnt usually have big breast like women have, cos even nomally some fat men have breast,do u consider them as transgendered too?
Are you saying hermaphrodites and co were born to be men? interesting.
No2Atheism: @bawomolo
Benny Hinn . . . Holy Jacket . , nice one there . . .
i need that jacket. Imagine the thieves that can be killed using benny hinn's holy jacket.
Krayola: I have been against discrimination against gays and lesbians before i found out my sister was a lesbian, which was a lil under 2 years ago. What about bawomolo, and chrisbenogor, and mazaje. . .are they closet homosexuals, or are they defending their family members too? Is there something wrong with caring about the happiness of others? Is that another sort of deviance?
I agree, there's nothing wrong with caring. If someone is happy being gay, why try to ruin their parade? The last thing we want to do is forced them into the closet and unhappy marriages.
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=279591.msg4867662#msg4867662 date=1257435495]Delusion of grandeur!!! Even to mere mortals, Homosexuality is a CARDINAL SIN!!![/quote]lol christianity may not be that bad after all. you get a pass for committing the minor sins . Good to see you encouraging protected sex with your kids though.
Jesus woulda spat on the faces of gays if he was still living.
just like he spat on the prostitute right? oh please. Jesus was non-violent. you are beyond repair, only benny hinn can save you with his holy jacket
I follow all the 10 fundamental commandments in the Old Testament Do i engage in pre-marital sex? What a question? What has that gotta do with being a flaming gay?
dude answer my question. Since you are moral high horse, i expect an holy roller like you not to engage in pre-marital sex or lust. sin is sin right?
U are talking trash. Why did God destroy Sodom n Gomorrah?
i thought we have moved on new testament laws. but yeah according to the bible sodom n gomorrah were destroyed for their "immoral" behavior. There is no archaeology evidence to support the claim that fire and brimstone fell on Sodom n Gomorrah though. Just another Disney epic portion of the bible.
Sanusi was the Executive Director Risk management in FBN from 2005 to 2008. He became the GMD in 2009. This 6 months theory is not correct.[/quote]is he the one responsible for approving loans?
do you follow all Old testament laws? do you engage in pre-marital sex and the likes. I would expect a pharisee like you to follow the book to the T.
I don't mind my arguments being "ripped to shreds" by people who may not have studied or thought things through. I spend most of my time reflecting, and i spent all of my childhood reading encyclopaedias in a library. It may not be surprising if there are difficulties comunicating with some people who may have led a rather different life. . .
no offense deep sight but it seems you have fallen into the same trap as davidylan (a guy which you have criticized). This comes off as bragging and trying to act as if you are better and smarter than the rest of us. I guess you are the only one who read books during his childhood.
Such closed-mindedness and braggadocio is what led to the downfall of Sadducee and pharisees. maybe we should start referring to you as deep sight PHD
On the animal front you cannot deny that THERE DOES NOT EXIST EVEN ONE SINGLE ANIMAL that desires exclusively members of its own sex.
deep sight, I expect a "well learned" man like you to shy away from such absolutist statement. It's sad to say you haven't freed yourself from the dogma you campaign against. Homosexuality and bisexuality exists in the animal kingdom and is well documented. gay penguins in a certain zoo remained gay even after they were exposed to other female penguins. There are other examples of this.
stillwater: Jesus will not condone sin. He will ask that they repent.
but Jesus won't sentence "gays" to death like sauron who thinks he is stuck in the old testament. We have a lot to learn from a non-violent hippie like Jesus.
chiogo: Nerve?? Oh no, not at all. Your first comment just reminded me of your post on a thread not long ago about hypocrisy. Just letting you know you're an active participant.
You do attack when people say stuff like, "Homosexuality is immoral", which is similar to your post on this thread. Abeg joo, carry go. You don't know my beliefs so, speak for yourself.
chiogo: You were not the only person I was referring to plus your name is too long. Anywayz, you recognize yourself. Good to know.
Ok, nobody cares whether you or I tolerate Christians or homosexuals. In homosexual threads, you tend to attack anyone who makes ANY anti-gay comment. You making that post about Christianity being bologna has nothing to do with tolerance. Would be better if you keep your "unbeliever ideas" to yourself.
oh please. My opinion remains that Christianity is filled with bologna. It's obvious my posts in homosexual threads have struck a nerve considering you always find a way to bring it up. i do not attack but try to reason with the likes of sagamite.
we are both unbelievers by the way. i doubt you accept "beliefs" such as Hinduism and Taoism. I just believe in one less dogma than you do. You could just ignore my postsf you want to feel "better".
[quote author=tpia. link=topic=347075.msg4864203#msg4864203 date=1257392626]the thread title says why do Christians allow heretics to walk around scotfree after blowing their mouths anyhow abusing other people's religion. That's what we're addressing here unless you want to derail the thread.
Telling gays they should be sent to jail is the same thing as killing them, right? You that open your mouth to insult Christians at every opportunity- what do you call your own?
which fanatical Christian went to war because God told him so? George Bush is your definition of a fanatical Christian?
The people blowing up abortion clinics- were they not prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for that? [/quote]Fanatics exists in all ideologies (this includes atheism). it doesn't matter if they are prosecuted, what matters is that such ideologies lead to violent fanatics (some at an alarming rate than others).
chiogo: Why is it that people who get all defensive in homosexual issues don't hesitate to bad-mouth Christianity as unbelievers?. whatever happened to respecting other people's beliefs? hmm. the hypocrisy!
@topic, no idea
Why don't you just mention my name instead of using subliminals? i may disagree with Christianity but in no way have i supported restricting the rights of people to worship as Christians. that's the meaning of tolerance.
Do a better job of attacking me next time. I respect people like davidylan who say it like it is but sneak disses are disgusting and classless.
[quote author=tpia. link=topic=347075.msg4863857#msg4863857 date=1257383242]you're quite entitled to your opinion, as long as you're among Christians.
Try spewing crap about their religion to a[size=14pt] fanatical [/size] conservative Muslim, atheist or Hindu, and see if you wont receive bodily injury.
Do you now see why "Christianity produces more heretics " or you still want to be bull headed?[/quote]atheist religion? what are you smoking on?
fanatical Christians still exist by the way, they usually go to wars because God told them to do so, blow up abortion clinics and tell gays they should be sent to jail.
the attempt to deny homosexual activity exists in animals is laughable.
it's really hard to teach an old dog new tricks.
Deep Sight: Aside from this you have not factored the fact that even when in the midst of a herd, not all females are willing or available.. If you, a human, were standing in that herd, believe me, males on heat would attempt to mount YOU TOO.
That's makes it clear? ? ? ?
lol I guess the summer heat turns people gay. nairaland is good for a few laughs.
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=279591.msg4863271#msg4863271 date=1257372620]You are talking trash.
Termites have more organisation and are more responsible than Nigerians. Animals can do the basic things humans can do.[/quote]humans are considered higher animals for a reason.
Krayola is really going in. Let me just sit back and watch
It's easy to talk shit when 3 HOF's are behind you. where was that bravado when KG and ray allen weren't in boston. He had the same stunts in kentucky. he is too cocky for his own good. Kirk Hinrich should whoop his ass next time
ccollins: OMG! How do people who are involved in homo act enjoying it.the bible says that God looked upon adam and said it was not good that man should be alone and so God created a woman who adam named eve to be his helper, @All u gays and dirty sluts and whores,do u not know that he who sows into the flesh shall of d flesh reap corruption.all u gays and bisexual who have no natural love towards the opposite sex but demonic dirtiness and stronghold.if u enjoy be fooled and decieved in d wrong way.pls don't try amd decieve any of those little ones who are beginners in Christ and even unbelievers who don't do such evil cos Jesus said tha it would had been better if millstone be tied wit rope round your neck and u be thrown into d sea.
0sisi: have you seen the letter fom his schoolmate
Room 101 KiriKiri Maximum Prison Olodi Apapa Lagos
Dear Bode
Do not be surprised that I am writing this letter to you in your fist name. The last letter I wrote to you was when you were the Chairman of the Nigerian Ports Authority, and I addressed you as Chief, Commondore, Sir, All in All Olabode George. At that time I needed your help to help'release' my goods somewhere.But now times have changed. You have lost the respect.Bode, am not surprised at your present predicament.You and Iknow you are a thief, but we both have been praying one day you will repent of your 'thiefing' ways.
You and I know your stealing did not start at the Nigerian Ports Authority (NPA). No. It has history.It started when you wereatIjebu-Ode Grammar School, 1960 -1964. You were stealing from other students, but everybody thought, by the time you were matured enough you will outgrow it. No. Youwere stealing gari, sugar, kuli kuli etc. On so many occassions you were reported toyour seniors but they couldnt do anything as youalways share the gariand kuli kuli with them.You managed your way through the Royal Naval Engineering College without any suspension or expulsion.
You were commissioned. And in your first posting, as Director of Weapons at the Naval Headquarters in 1987 you were adding a few extra naira and kobo to every contract/tender than graced your table. You were not confident at all, then. Once you put the extra naira and kobo, I remember you always go back home praying hard so you wont be detected. You were never caught. So gradually your confidence rose. And moreso, as your boss at that time approved of your 'stealing' and shared some loots with you.It was this misfortune of your confidence that we were bestowed with inOndo State in your first major military (political) assignmentin 1987.You have now grown from the small boy that was stealing kuli kuli from fellowstudents to acare-less military administartor. And boyyou stole the state blind.
And even boasting that the 'Lagos Boy' had come to teach us 'ara oke' some lessons. Not only did you steal with 'no respect', you turned 'small girls' of Ikere College of Education to tin gods by your association with them. You only needed to send government cars to Ikere and all the girls will be falling over themselves to get into the cars to journey to Akure to 'please' you. By the time they come back to the campus they were ready to slap their provost, because they have tasted of your 'wealth and power'.The obedient people of Ondo State (of whichEkiti waspart) could do nothing. Corruption was rife all over the country, so putting your hand in the state till was not at all surprising. But the scale you were doing this and with so much impunity was what enraged the people. We all kept quiet and pray that the omnipresent God will catch up with you one day, very soon.You were 'shooed' out of the Navy. And immediately you found a 'space' in the top hierachy of PDP, when Abubakar midwifed democracy third time around.
No thanks to the money you stole from our dear Ondo State that you threw around to impress the leaders of the party. All the rest is history.Bode, you got the post of chairman of NPA, not on merit, but compensation for your effort in ensuring your party's good showing in OODUA states. But God knew in His infinite Wisdom that the NPA job will be your final undoing because He knows how greedy you are. And greed leads to destruction. You did not disappoint anybody on the scale of your greed. You handpicked your collaborators and you started your stealing spree. Sold most of NPA properties and inflated contracts. And with all these you were still going about colecting 'dues' from your party governors in Ekiti, Oyo, Ogun, Ondo and Osun States. Youhave no shame, at all.You became the toast of all ladies in the Lagos and Abuja social circuits. Your 'hat' became a symbol of riches, affluence and power. But God was only distinguishing you for a big shame that He wanted to bring on you. Because in you He saw an individual who had no love of his fellowmen at heart.
A man with so much apetite for stealing.Bode, you are a disgrace to your family, wives, ex-girlfriends, and children. You are not a disgrace to your colleagues in your party or other parties. You are one out of many of them who are draining our country dry. You are one of the big guns who parade our cities, oppressing the common men, with the money they stole. There are so many like you in all the facets of the Nigerian polity, economy etc. But it is said in our adage, eniti ile mo ba ni ole (it is the one that is caught that is a thief).How many of our so called leaders can account for their wealth? How many of them have not dipped their hands in the public till? So many have abused their offices, stole billions and turned themselves to political gods. But we still celebrate them. Very soon, if they do not come before Justice Oyewole, they are all answerable to God Almighty.
Bode, I know you are very happy at the judgement of Justice Oyewole. I saw a smile on your face when he delivered the judgement. A mere 30 months and you are back at your old self. You are lucky. You remember the sentences handed over to the Ambrose Alis, Mbakwes, Barkin Zuwos etc in the 80s. Some had 100 years for stealing justa fraction of what you stole.But Bode, see beyond the number of years and ask for atonement of all your sins. Your children, wives andrelations will carry your shame all their years. You are more like Oyenusi of the old. Nobody, to my knowledge, bears that name anymore. Your children are lucky, yours is an English name. But from now henceforth, people will ask them, which of the Georges are you? The shameless thief or the other George?
I shall end this here, as I am beginning to realise you are hard to convince. In all these, you still nurture the thoughts that you were set up because you are a top notch of PDP? Ah! You are a dunce.And above all an OGBOLOGBO OLE.Ole, Wobia, Alajeju, Agba Iya.I pray God will forgive you, for what you indirectly made to happen to my goods (and other struggling Nigerians')at NPA some years back.See you after 30 months.Greet all the Ogbologbos in Kirikiri.babajide Se