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shymmex: The question is, have you got an alternative for these God forsaken country - thus, effecting a change in the lives of these people??

Why do we like to do things from the bottom-up in Nigeria - and not top-down?

ogugua88 has acted like any normal person and proferred solutions. What have you done aside from scream stup!dly that Lagos is your state?
Who cares for such a primitive approach anyway?

There is societal decay in Nigeria and it is something that is decades old. If you have nothing to contribute, then vacate the thread. Or are you one of the mentally damaged lot?

[size=14pt]Jonathan Cedes Tracks to Lagos Light Rail[/size]
24 Apr 2012

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President Goodluck Jonathan

By Goddy Egene and Obinna Chima

President Goodluck Jonathan has said the Federal Government will hand over two, out of its five rail tracks in Lagos State, to the state government to support the take-off of its planned light rail project.

Jonathan disclosed this yesterday at the ongoing 6th Lagos Economic Summit, tagged: “From BRICS to BRINCS: Lagos Holds the Key”.

The president, who was represented by the Minister of Trade and Investment, Mr. Olusegun Aganga, said: “Discussions are ongoing on the possibility of ceding two, out of the existing five railways owned by the Federal Govern-ment to the Lagos State government for the Lagos light rail project.”
He restated that there were a lot of investment opportunities in the country.

Jonathan listed some of the sectors where investment opportunities abound in the economy to include transportation, maritime, agricultural sector, infrastructure and road.

In her presentation, the Vice-President, Africa Region, Standard Chartered Bank, London, Ms. Razia Khan, said Africa’s transformation was largely dependent on Lagos State, due to the growth recorded in the state in the past few years.

Khan, who was the keynote speaker, argued that there was clear disparity in the performance of states that were more dependent on oil revenue from the Federal Government and those that were less dependent on such funds, even as she called for a review of the policy of sharing oil revenue.

“Lagos economy has been able to move beyond the system whereby government is the focus daily. Lagos has shown that it is not about rent-seeking, but about a production economy. To that extent, we should not underestimate what Lagos means,” Khan said.

According to her, a lot of the enthusiasm about Nigeria’s growth is about the growth prospects in Lagos, adding that Lagos represents about 20 per cent of Nigeria’s Gross Domestic Product (GDP).

She argued that with the pace of development in the state, Nigeria had all it takes to be among the BRICS nations (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa).

She argued that for Nigeria to break into the legion of the BRICS nations there was need for increased infrastructural development, increased trade and investment, among others.

Khan explained: “Lagos economy has been able to move beyond the system whereby government is the focus daily. Lagos has shown that it is not about rent-seeking, but about a production economy. To that extent, we should not underestimate what Lagos means.

“There is no doubt that Lagos is significant for Africa’s growth. Among the BRICS nations, it is only China that for more than five decades has had global impact on the world economy. But the other countries that made it into that group were increasingly chosen, because it is possible, given their demographics that they too would witness increased contributions to global GDP.

“We are so excited about the prospect of Nigeria, and more especially Lagos, because what we have seen over the last decade, at least here in Lagos, is evidence of structural transformation and sustained growth over time. If Nigeria sustains its growth rate, it is going to overtake South Africa as sub-Saharan Africa’s largest economy by 2018. It is clear that Nigeria is on course to emerge as Africa’s largest economy.”

Earlier, the Governor of Lagos State, Mr. Babatunde Fashola, said this year’s summit was focused on power, agriculture, transport and housing (PATH) sectors.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/jonathan-cedes-tracks-to-lagos-light-rail/114429/

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Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:00 JOSHUA BASSEY, PATRICK ATUANYA & PYEMO Afego

The Federal Government on Monday said it would build two emergency power plants in Lagos to ensure adequate power supply in the state.

President Goodluck Jonathan said this at the opening of the 6th Lagos Economic Summit tagged, ``Ehingbeti 2012``.

Jonathan also pledged the resolve of the Federal Government to partner state governments and the private sector towards sustainable power/energy development, in what he believes would galvanise the economic and industrial growth of the country.

The president, represented by Olusegun Aganga, Minister of Trade and Investment, at the Summit with the theme, “From BRICS to BRINCS: Lagos Holds the Key”, which commenced at the Eko Hotel and Suites, also stated the determination of his administration to pursue its transformation agenda to full realisation, with focus on power, transportation and agriculture, as key areas.

He said plans were also in place to build a world-class commodity exchange, in order to encourage investment in agriculture through efficient pricing of agricultural commodities and higher incomes to farmers.

The president noted that given the centrality of Lagos to the overall economic prosperity of Nigeria, his administration was paying particular attention to the state, in terms of power generation, and in this regard, plans were ongoing to redevelop the Egbin power plant and build another such facility in Ijora, through Public Private Partnership (PPP) for which the output would solely be dedicated to serve the power needs of Lagos.

According to the president, specific efforts are being made to address the perennial traffic jams on the Apapa-Oshodi Expressway, through the ongoing reconstruction of the road which leads to the nation’s busiest seaports in Apapa and Tincan.

He disclosed that plans were on to build modern parks on the corridor, in partnership with the private sector, in order to address the present challenge, where trucks are left on the expressroad, thereby creating traffic bottlenecks and subjecting road users to great discomfort.

The president informed the gathering, comprising the local and international business communities, top government functionaries and investors, that partnership with Lagos was inevitable because the state accounts for 20.2 percent of Nigeria’s nominal Gross Domestic Product (GDP) and 50.7 percent of non oil GDP, and the highest level consumption in the country.

“We believe that the co-operation of Lagos and the Federal Government is key. We will be extremely supportive of Lagos and any state government” he said.

In the health sector, he said the focus was on the expansion of access to basic services, prevention, improved clinics, quality of care and enhanced participation of the private sector across the health value chain. “We have signed a Memorandum of Understanding (M.O.U) with General Electric to deliver new diagnostic centres and new greenfield hospitals in Nigeria,” he said.

Governor Babatunde Fashola, urging local and international investors to take advantage of the investment-friendly climate in Lagos, said the possibilities in the state were endless.

“We have seen them and we invite you to come along with us. We invite you to take advantage of the dynamic Lagos market opportunities in those critical “PATH” economic areas – power, agriculture, transportation and housing, to address the infrastructure gaps for our collective benefit.”

http://www.businessdayonline.com/NG/index.php/news/76-hot-topic/36427-govt-to-build-two-emergency-power-plants-in-lagos

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The houseboy has started his stup!dity to derail another thread. What do houseboys know about plagiarism anyway?

ogugua88: Yeah, I know. They've told me many stories. In terms of sanitation, shouldn't that be done at the federal level? Nigerian government, the structure of it anyway, somewhat mimics the US government. Meat handling and sanitation of those plants have codes to follow under the USDA (US Department of Agriculture), so I'd assume and expect that, in Nigeria, the ministries of Health, Agriculture, and even environment should be involved with this.

I agree with the bolded.

Yes, the codes must come from the FG, but they must be enforsed by the LG. Our LG's do absolutely nothing, outside sharing free money. They are totally unaccountable to the people and the people don't care.
That said, the FG must be far more proactive in the drive for a saner society. Why create standards only to abandon them? Punishment needs to be levied on LG's that allow such practises and those that do not have health inspectors should be jailed. Punishment also needs to be levied on the ministers who condone such immoral drifts in societal norms.

It is the denial of stark reality by Nigerians that gets me. People like Shymmex first tried to make the issue one of bigotry because Lagos is featured, even though the pictures from Port Harcourt are much worse.

It says a lot about the mental damage to the mind of the average Nigerian. It can only take mental damage to accept "meat" that is displayed in that manner; not even in a glass case, but on wooden skewers in the open air. Exposed to automobile exhausts, dust, shiit flies, spit from the mouths of passers by etc. Perhaps, the display is even over an open sewer.

You've got to lament at our abyssmal societal standards.

Aregbe is a thug who has attracted the attention of another thug. Like attracts like.
He should either learn to live with it or call Tawun.

alj harem: LOL you are really this da.ft. Do you think people actually care who is foremost or not ? Maybe you need to read more on Ijaw history and how they think

We know you are from a backward family that gives their little babies garri, instead of milk.
Thats why you've grown up amazingly stup!d and jealous of Beaf and keep following me everywhere like a puppy.

Hilarious!

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Exactly! Plagiarism is fraud and theft; the intellectual equivalent of rap'ing an underage kid. It is low, low behaviour.

Lol! The man brought it all on himself.

ogugua88: I didn't knock anyone down. Are you okay? Didn't I say all of this already? It's as if you didn't read this thread in its entirety. Calm down.

It is better to ignore some peoples posts.

clip: Please, I think we have better pictures representing good image of our dear country in terms of meat selling. Thanks

Some of us are tired of presenting a fake "good image." We need to call it as it is; our society is backward, let us find ways to uplift it.
We are not backward because of poverty either, otherwise you would not find that mechanics workshops in poverty stricken Benin Republic are neat, while ours look like where Satan pisses. You can even notice the difference in roadside cooking between Nigeria and our neighbouring countries; pots are clean to gleaming, the places are neat, those who cook keep clean and neat etc.

ogugua88: That wasn't a simplistic partisan bias. Granted, it's a behavioral issue, but people are behaving that way because there's either no law against it, or there is a law and there's no one to enforce it, or there's a law and there are people to enforce it but, to do so, they choose not. There's a Federal Ministry of Health. Not state, but federal, and you know who controls federal.

You have a point, but local standards are the preserve of local govts. If you ask your parents (or grandparents), you'll be surprised to learn that there used to be food at market level in Nigeria at a point in our wretched history.
We need the sincere adoption of true federalism for things to work again.

What pains me most is when you visit even the tiniest Caribbean country, all meat for consumption is properly slaughtered, inspected and STAMPED. Anybody selling meat without an inspectors stamps will go to jail, yet some of these countries do not even number up to a million people. Again, the difference between them and us is that while they are developing, we are regressing. And like is the case with Ghana and Benin Republic, the discussion you can have with an artisan can be quite illuminating. What Nigerian rewire or vulcaniser can talk about World politics?

Our society is bestial and primeval, we've got to freely admit it to move forward and upward.

jason123: So your conclusion is; changing the way we display meat will lead to change in our mind sets and hence, development?
Can Benin citizens attribute their development to change in the way they kill their livestock? No! Same with Ghana. Yes, I agree with you on "the change in mind set" bit. But no, I don't see how our unique way of killing and displaying meat will change our mind set! Every Christmas in Nigeria, I witnessed how chickens were slaughtered by "small boys". Does that mean they will grow up to be criminals? Or their mind set has been altered? Certainly not. Now, someone else is doing the killing (which they already know how to do), how can this be adverse to the society?!

We have OUR way of barbequing our meat! I love it and I am sure most people do. Let's leave it at that. They are unique and different! We cannot change everything about us, our culture and traditions just because we want to be whiter than the white man. If we cannot be advanced because we kill our meat the way we want so be it.

Development is a thing of the mind, it is how society collectively harnesses its potential to step beyond the realms of what was previously considered humanly possible.

The strange thing about your argument is that none of the meat in any of the pictures is in the process of being barbequed, so your are ergument is null. They are on display for sale and it would take someone with mental problems to display meat for sale in that way and another with similar problems to buy the same "meat" to feed to their kids.

Development cannot sprout from dead or primitive minds.

ogugua88: The "Nigerian flavor" Jason's referring to is carcinogens.

Exactly! Carcinogens spiced and flavoured with e koli and typhus from faecal remains clinging to hands unwashed after a bend down over the nearest secluded drain.

jason123: Well first of all, for them to be selling those stuffs they are probably uneducated and trying to make ends meet. Therefore you do not expect them to be thinking of "advanced algorithms" because, frankly, its the last thing on their minds.

It takes money to get the facilities you are looking for. The people I see up there probably do not have the money for such.

Lastly, I still don't see how this relates to development. The animal get killed anyway and it is consumed, anyway. I wonder how changing the "style" will equate to advancing Nigeria.

I repeat, open barbeque Nigerian style (kudos to the Northerners for that) gives it a unique taste and feeling you can't get anywhere in the world!

It does not take money to develop the right mindset. Ghana is poorer than Nigeria, but such primitive behaviour cannot be attempted there; it is also quite clear that while Ghanaian society has a sense of direction and is developing; we here seem to be going backwards with the average person appearing to be quite stup!d compared to what obtains in neighbouring countries.

I have had many illuminating conversations with mechanics in Benin Republic and Ghana, but absolutely do not expect any sense from those in Nigeria. The organisation of workshops in Benin Republic and Ghana is totally different to what obtains in Nigeria as well. Do I need to say they do a better job? Nuff said.

The mind of the average Nigerian is diseased. Perhaps it is the trauma from too many military regimes. Whatever it is, we must realise that mental problems exist in almost every Nigerian. I do not see how we can develop without tackling this basic issue. Development comes from the collective mind of society.

jason123: In fact, selling chicken openly adds to the "Nigerian" flavor you can't get anywhere in the world! Its our unique style of barbeque.

Anybody doing that in most other developing countries would be jailed, talkless of in advanced countries.
The fact that you can see no wrong in it is very telling of Nigerian society and its decay.

ogugua88: I didn't add sense? The link is nonsense abi?

The topic is non-partisan and cross-cultural. What I found upsetting about your post was the attempt to inject bias.
Please let us tackle these sickening fundamental behavioral issues of the average Nigerian without invoking simplistic partisan biases.

By the way, thanks for your words on the other horrible thread. I really appreciatted it.

jason123: Don't see anything wrong in it . . .Why? Because it does not affect the development of Nigeria is anyway!

Development comes from state of the mind. If the mind has no standards, how is it ever going to be creative and focused to precision?
I wonder what you think comes out of the minds of those who sell roasted chicken skewered in the open by the roadside? Advanced algorithms? High tech? What?

ogugua88: You're axing us? Why don't you ax your boss president and his fellow looters?

Standards tend to fall in nations with plenty of poverty and little to no hope.

Here's the website leading to contact info for the Federal Ministry of Health: http://www.fmh.gov.ng/index.php/about-us

Of great concern also is that smoke we call "air".

Is he the one that made you like that?
Please respect yourself and either add sense to the topic or vacate it.

Ndata: I hope you guys have heared this one coming from Niger-Deltan in the person of Tam David west.If this assertion was made by a northerner, hell will let loose.Jonathan doesnt even know the meaning of commander in chief of the armed forces.Its a pity!

Is the idiocy of a Niger Deltan, Tam David West something of joy to Northerners? Please speak for yourself and yourself only; there are many progressive Northerners out there, Northerners are not bitter freaks in the class of Tam David West.

Maybe you do not know that the name Tam David West is like toilet roll in the Niger Delta. Well, you know that now.

Tam David West is just bitter about not being the foremost Ijaw man. It is really sad that he is letting it bet the better of him with his frequent utterances that have only led his own people to scorn his name.

What sensible person thinks Nigeria's army is up to World standards? I really pity Tam David West.

With the mindset of the average Nigerian, can the country ever develop?

This reminds one about the wretched pictures from Trans-Amadi slaughter house where dead animals are left to rot in the most unhygenic and sickening state, after being treated with a dose of cancer causing chemicals from burning tyres, before being sold to us as "meat."
The blood pollutes the waterways and the heavy smoke only adds to the already overpowering pollution.

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Where are our standards? How can we ever hope to develop by living in such chaos.
What we witness here can only be done by mad people in an anything goes society!

Nigeria just makes one want to sit down and weep sometimes. How can we save our dear country people? How?
How can we save ourselves from ourselves?

Where Are Our Standards? Roasted Chicken Being Sold Openly Today

[size=14pt]In Picture: Roasted Chicken Being Sold Openly Today[/size]

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Roasted chicken being sold openly at Obalende bus stop this morning. PHOTO: ABEEB OGUNBADEJO

http://pmnewsnigeria.com/2012/04/19/in-picture-roasted-chicken-being-sold-openly-today/

I pity Sanusi. The worst labels a man can have are thief and cheat.

[quote author=haka_nai]C'mon guyZ!Beaf and Rhino,you guyz need to stop the bashing its giving me a headache!!!!
That said,the issue remains the North is most willing and ready,don't dismiss there position with a thinking that a few people are venting there position.The larger percentage has had it up to here with the constant insults and useless perception/demonization of the North by the south and want to be free from all that hating and insults so much.That we are better off taking our chances,regardless of the uncertainty people fear.Ours is not the worst in the world and also does not mean an end for us.Like i said it is only when the over dependence on oyel money is gone before other potentials can be fully harness.The separation will just serve the purpose right.Destroy the bridge of retreat and make sure we conquer our challenges within. respectable allies.
I see prospects and this are left untouched simply cos we have silly leaders.We must build an economy and a society.So fro me no condition is permanent.Also i believe that in life,the only constant thing is change.We must set our fears and doubts aside and start the process of appreciating what we all have and decide how to part if possible.Personally i don't give a damn about Nigeria Unity any longer as much as i do the Nigerian elites from every corner of the nation leeching on her to death.We all have heard enough of the bullshit and enmity talk.We have also listened and see people talk about there resolve if given the chance to destroy us.SO why pretend.Its not today we woke up to the fact that internal security is the greatest security risk we suffer from.SO i stand with this Northern elders and wish we could have a SNC and hopefully split.[/quote]Rhino is the one who is biching because he cannot acknowledge the fact that Lagos would need to negotiate to remain buoyant.
About the North, sadly you are mistaken. They are not ready to go anywhere and sentiment alone does not build nations, you've got to be pragmatic as well.
Where will your borders be? Who will go with you? There are quite a few unanswered fundamental questions.
The only positive I can take from the core-Northern position is that it make a national conference easier to accomplish. However, the talk of separation just might be negotiating tactics (just asking like for equal oil revenues) to set the bar so high that the status quo is maintained.

freshmoney: Soak that garri well before going to sleep mumu.
Ensure you disconnect that computer from Internet before Oga comes in.

Scarab.

freshmoney: Never fall for Beaf's trap. He's a jabberer Whenever he senses he's losing love from people, he becomes snaky and tries to be the GOOD ONE. What a foul-mouthed hypocrite.

Dunce.

freshmoney: Beafiasco, you are a FAILURE

I think I've got you at your weakest point. PDP got you PAID, you're not contented; you went ahead stealing your wife's money . That is a gross cacoethes
Now I know Kleptomania is an addiction . Don't just do it in open places, or you may be lynched.

Your PDP chieftain likely picked you up from an act of shenanigan. You accursed rogue

BEAF: A perfect kleptomaniac, a jingoist, a sloganeer, a rogue

[beaf lived in Nigeria around 21st century. He was a reknown PDP jingoist. He was a hardened criminal. He used to lie and rain curses]

Fool.

yinchar: Beaf again you have gone back to your unsenzible ways, not quite long like two days ago, you impressed me by posting sensible comment for the first time have known you on this forum, see where you are again, are you trying to justify that Omisore has the moral justification to stop and search a serving governor, abba, when did he became a policeman....wonders shall never end.....
BEAF! BEAF!! BEAF!!! put on your thinking cap, and finish what you eating in your mouth, you disappointing me again.....

Me? Justify Omisore? Where, bro?
At best, I've been having a laugh here.

But come o, bros! Who are you to be marking my posts good or bad sef?
You be NL police?