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Little better can be expected of the likes of Aregbesola (thug) and Tinubu (drug baron, thief, forger and a man of no known home state or hometown).
I see Aregbesola and Fayemi being removed and serving jail sentences later on this year or early next.

Standing5:
Oga beaf, where is the resource control now?

First step no ni nau.
As long as everybody begins to feel a stake in wealth generation, then we are a step closer.

Standing5:
As long as ur bros in Aso rock does not sell us out to the foreign mining companies, all will be well.

Lol! That might be a good idea actually. It will ensure that all of us a in a mad dash for freedom and resource control; that way everyone will be on the same page when the vote for true federalism (structural and fiscal) comes up.

[quote author=ekt_bear][size=21pt]If this is true, then I am a fool for ever believing in these guys.[/size][/quote]Archived.
Ethnic bigotry has a way of turning normal individuals into fools.

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Stop seeking relevance, you've always been a Shell owned reptile.

manny4life:
@Beaf,

Where you saying it's their civic responsibilities? On this one, I certainly do not agree with you. Civic and Corporate responsibilities from large corporations includes Grants and Scholarship, Community Sponsored Events aka sponsorships, etc? When did building capital intensive structures become civic responsibilities?

What Shell owes our communiities and country is way much more than scholarships. Its not like its a normal relationship.
Nuff said.

BlackBaron:
Is Jona the best SS could offer us,

this Dumbo President is more suited to preside over animal farm with his zoology degree.

Any other person and I prolly wouldn't bat an eyelid. Now an agbero trying to dictate, to me it's wishful thinking.  

Look around you, look in the mirror, check ya neighbour wellu wellu! Are they humans or animals?
GEJ is more than qualified to lead you (animal or not).

bakila:
Even though I am not jmoore, it is not backed by the constitution cos he would have spent ten years or twelve years as president, by 2015, and would have taken the oath of office and allegience three times.
It seems however, this thread is mote about the north not seeing presidential power. MeThink its fine if the Governors will do thier jobs, which like their collegues in other parts of nigeria is not an agenda in their plate.

Lol!
Did you find that interpretation of the constitution in Okija forest? Make sure you appear with strong jas men to recite that stuff in 2015, cos it will only lawyers sit down and weep, and judges set their dogs on you.

[quote author=A-ZeD link=topic=884767.msg10323448#msg10323448 date=1330804384]They are right in doing so. Today it is mend, tomorrow boko haram, next week, (insert any opc, bakassi). Until Nigeria as a country gets its act together, nobody will take us serious.[/quote]Stop trying so hard to sound like a sellout. Nigeria is the way it is partly due to Shell; in case you do not realise it, that company has ruled you since the day you were born. You are just a mere number in a Shell company file.
Luckily, GEJ did not to have come through their system and represents a genuine chance for our freedom.
I pity people who point out their plumpest and most robustly healthy kids when the slaver comes calling:

[size=14pt]Cable: Shell has infiltrated Nigerian government ministries[/size]
By the CNN Wire Staff

Lagos, Nigeria (CNN) -- Royal Dutch Shell has people in "all the relevant ministries" in the Nigerian government and has access to "everything being done in those ministries," according to leaked diplomatic cables published by WikiLeaks and posted on the website of the British newspaper The Guardian on Thursday.

An October 2009 cable quotes Ann Pickard, then-executive vice president for Shell companies in Africa, as saying Shell had "good sources." ",  She said the GON (government of Nigeria) had forgoteen that Shell had seconded people to all the relevant ministries and that Shell consequently had access to everything that was being done in those ministries."

Shell, the international oil and gas giant, said Thursday it could not comment on "the alleged contents of the cable, including the correctness or incorrectness of any statements it allegedly contains."

However, Shell spokesman David R.J. Williams said in a statement, "The Guardian's assertion that Shell has somehow infiltrated the government of Nigeria is absolutely untrue, false and misleading."

The Shell representative referenced in the cable has since left Nigeria, the company said. Shell's website shows that Pickard now is the country chair for Shell in Australia and executive vice president of Upstream Australia, "responsible for the exploration, production and gas commercialisation part of Shell's Australian business." Pickard came to Australia in March, according to the website.

The cables also say that Nigeria is considered "the most important country in Africa" because of factors including the size of its population; its oil reserves; its peace-keeping role in the Economic Community of West African States, especially Sierra Leone and Liberia; its seat on the U.N. Security Council; and the strength and size of its financial markets.

"Nigeria has enormous potential and is the seventh-largest Muslim country in the world, with an Islamic population that will eclipse Egypt by 2015," the cable says. "Having no United States presence in northern Nigeria is akin to having no presence in Egypt and is why the United States is considering opening a consulate in Kano," in the north-central part of the country.

"It is possible that Nigeria could be a future Pakistan," according to the cables. "In 25 years, there could be impoverished masses, a wealthy elite and radicalism in the North."

Royal Dutch Shell founded Shell D'Arcy, the first shell company in Nigeria, in 1936, according to Shell's website.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/africa/12/09/nigeria.shell.cable/index.html?eref=rss_latest&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest+%28RSS%3A+Most+Recent%29

debosky:
Like I said, you are a functional illiterate - did you read the following statement in your own link?

In a letter dated 31 December 2008, the government directed SPDC and other oil companies to continue with production (and therefore flaring) until instructed otherwise. During this process of oil extraction the oil fields will be running out of oil, making investments in gas gathering infrastructure less economically attractive. Thus, gas might be flared to the bitter end of oil operations.

Your level of reasoning is abysmal.

Lol! And you are the illiterate that cannot see that the bolded part in brackets is Shells own interpretation.
Climb out of Shells arse and make your self useful to society.
Nobody smiles anymore on those like you who trade their kids futures for a miserable pat on the head by oyinbo.

[quote author=Osiris.212 link=topic=885429.msg10322914#msg10322914 date=1330798353]Ondo state on top! Everybody occupy your resources![/quote]Rhino, it is not just Ondo, but Ogun and Lagos as well. You can even see outcrops of the stuff in parts of Lagos (eg Oke Tapas).
There will be no need those ACN hypocrites to preach true federalism out of one corner of their mouths, while asking for more Abuja awuf from the other.

Every region has something. It would be nice for the FG to kickstart development in every regions resources, then . . .efrybodi occupy ya resources.

[size=14pt]FG approves plan for bitumen project[/size]
Written by Paschal Okeke, Abuja Wednesday, 22 February 2012

AS part of efforts to create an avenue for the diversification of the nation’s economy, the Federal Government has approved a development plan for the execution of the Bitumen Project.

Minister of Mines and Steel Development, Mr Musa Mohammed Sada, made the disclosure when he received in audience the Canadian Deputy High Commissioner to Nigeria, Mr Jean Gauthier, in his office.

The minister noted that “apart from oil and gas, the nation’s minerals and metal sector is being considered as a viable alternative source of revenue generation.

He said government was working towards ensuring that the sources of income for the country were expanded.

Sada explained that the development plan approved by President Goodluck Jonathan called for the actual exploitation of the bitumen resource in the country.

While expressing appreciation for the visit of the Canadian Deputy High Commissioner and the support of the Canadian government towards the development of the nation’s minerals and metal sector, the minister said his ministry was hopeful of further assistance on how to move the nation’s bitumen project forward.

He further stated that three Canadian mining companies had already indicated interest in developing the bitumen project in Nigeria, adding that the forthcoming International Mining Convention under the auspices of the Prospectors and Developers Association of Canada (PDAC) in Toronto, Canada would provide the opportunity to showcase the investment potentials in the Nigeria’s minerals and metal sector to attract foreign investors.

Earlier in his remarks, the Canadian Deputy High Commissioner said the purpose for the visit was to foster collaboration with the Nigerian government for the development of its minerals and metal sector.

He said “what the ministry needs is to bring in one credible investor who will make other investors look around and come to Nigeria.”

http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/news/36490-fg-approves-plan-for-bitumen-project

Aigbofa:
@ Beaf

You have said everything that needs to be said on this topic and I am 100% with you. At the end of the day Shell is just a profit seeking business, Nigeria is not. This is why we need to wake up and protect ourselves from these companies while recognizing their right to operate if they play be the rules.

Thank you jare! half the people arguing for Shell like colonial slaves have probably never heard the phrase, "Corporate Civic Responsibility." Its something they can easily google.

The same Shell that has been uncompromisingly flaring gas for decades has suddenly changed tack to wnat to invest in gas instead, yet many of us don't see the greasy levels of hypocrisy and usery.

By some miracle, Shell has now even described gas flaring in Nigeria as "primitive!" Can you beat such a greed inspired about turn? Yet our people think it is ok for a company to behave like our country is a prost!tute, while having no responsibilities to the lands they have polluted and society they have corrupted ( http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/dec/08/wikileaks-cables-shell-nigeria-spying ).
Its just disgraceful.

http://royaldutchshellplc.com/2011/06/14/shell-primitive-gas-flaring-in-nigeria/

Irrelevance is like bereavement.

^
If you don't know, then you need to check your own mental state. Go converse with your fellow id!ots.

[quote author=A-ZeD link=topic=884767.msg10321931#msg10321931 date=1330788071]Is Brazil a communist country because Petrobras OWNS 11 refineries in Brasil and 4 outside brasil. So Mr Beaf can you give us another reason why the GEJ led FG cannot manage our four refineries properly?
NB: don't blame subsidy cos if the refineries were working the subsidy issue would not arise[/quote]Guy, please act smarter and do not pretend not to be too blind to totally understand these lines:

Nigeria is a capitalist country, not a communist one. Surely, you understand the difference?
It is for the likes of Oando who account for about 53% of subsidy payments to build refineries in a capitalist democracy like ours.

Lastly, we are on a ship thats inexorably headed for true federalism; so the govt cannot do any stup!d investments that are meant for the private sector. Such investments will only keep the current anti-people system in place.
Dude, ask Oando and its likes to build refineries, it is not the place for a capitalist democracy to do so (without a profit making vehicle); except it plans to remain heavily over- centralised. Common sense, bruv.

When NNPC is broken up in the future (bringing us yet closer to true federalism), you can ask the govt to build refineries. Right now, NNPC is no more than a wayward contraption that like Shell, has to be wrestled to the floor and given a black eye.

After reading them again (especially the bolded), you will find that your question is really up in the air.

But maybe, you will come up with more spurious question's for the fun of it (like the clowns, Crap 28, debosky and kobojunkie). Maybe one of you will tell us next that Shell has every right to flare natural gas, because it is not in their economic interest even though 40% of our gas is flared at a loss of $2.5billion per year to Nigeria. This is aside from flaring heavily polluting the atmosphere and causing a plethora of ill effects from respiratory diseases to cancer and acid rain.

It is easy to be a mental slave and licker of white arse.

I have brought the gas flaring issue, because all this time that we have asked them to stop flaring, they have chosen to continue. But suddenly after Nigeria has done its math and put its future in gas instead of oil, Shell has suddenly decided that they are now more interested in harnessing gas than drilling for oil and building a refinery. They have done this because they see govts investments in building up the gas sector (biggest industrial park in Africa, fertilizer plants etc) and suddenly realise the stup!dity of their gas flaring position; the gas market is several times bigger than oil would ever have been.
The quote below is from the same article, read it and tell me why those with your position ain't being played for fools:

According to him, Shell would continue to invest in the development of the gas sector, adding: “I do believe that investment in the downstream sector, especially gas sector in Nigeria, as I touched on, is very important.

“Nigeria has huge resources of gas that have yet to be unlocked and the potential to add to that gas not only in power but in other ways in the country.

“I think there are a lot of opportunities for Nigeria and for Shell in Nigeria and the potential much more than to consider refining.’’

A country sets the agenda for business within its borders, those that do not like the agenda can pack up and leave.
Their position is driven by greed, ours is driven by need.
They want your money all the time and yet some of you wish to be phucked by them all the time.

Low self-esteem is the phrase.

debosky:
You are truly a functional illiterate - where was GEJ mentioned in the following sentence?

By the way, GEJ has been in power for over 2 years - long enough to revamp the refineries but has failed to do so.

Abeg, go and fly in the night with your fellow winshes jare! You are bitter and sound bitter.
The refineries continue to fail because there are clowns and Shell "patrons" like you who sabotage them to keep the subsidy train expanding.

By the way, it was really id!otic to blame GEJ for a 30 year problem.

Arosa:
Don't get me wrong, I have no trouble with GEJ remaining president for 8 years; its just that the country is very tensed at the moment and we all need to make compromise for the sake of peace.

Compromise with who?
Let us not look for weak ways out. If we want this country to progress, then we better buckle down for a bruising fight in which we see ourselves as the only ones to remain standing when the action is over.

Compromise with who?

debosky:
Beaf will never address a question that exposes the glaring incompetence of his paymaster's regime. Why Nigeria NEEDS Shell to build us a refinery is beyond me, [b]over 30 years [/b]since we took over the refinery they built.

Yeah, GEJ has been in power for 30 years. Most of you "revolutionaries" are so bitter that you sound silly.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=884767.msg10321317#msg10321317 date=1330782883]Investing in building a refinery in Nigeria is a business decision for Shell whose primary duty is to protect shareholder value and to enhance it. They should not build anything if it will negatively impact their shareholders (Business 101).

The Chinese companies on the other hand are owned by the Chinese government and their interests are political rather than being business interests.

The real question is, why can't the government invest aggressively in the existing refineries and bring them to 70 capacity?[/quote]Nigeria is a capitalist country, not a communist one. Surely, you understand the difference?
It is for the likes of Oando who account for about 53% of subsidy payments to build refineries in a capitalist democracy like ours.

Lastly, we are on a ship thats inexorably headed for true federalism; so the govt cannot do any stup!d investments that are meant for the private sector. Such investments will only keep the current anti-people system in place.
Dude, ask Oando and its likes to build refineries, it is not the place for a capitalist democracy to do so (without a profit making vehicle); except it plans to remain heavily over- centralised. Common sense, bruv.

When NNPC is broken up in the future (bringing us yet closer to true federalism), you can ask the govt to build refineries. Right now, NNPC is no more than a wayward contraption that like Shell, has to be wrestled to the floor and given a black eye.

[quote author=A-ZeD link=topic=884767.msg10321231#msg10321231 date=1330782045]I guess opening a branch of World bank in Aso rock is the right step taking by your Government. You and GEJ are so clueless its unimaginable.[/quote]Many of you are congenital thieves, so if it takes a neutral umpire to point out your thefts, so be it.
I now see where you are coming from, no wonder you you can sell your soul for Shell.

jp philips:
@ mor0nic beaf

how are the mighty falling,  i can rem vividly how you accuse the hausa/fulani of begging for your resources, with 60% you are BEGGING a 40% partner to build refineries for you.

mr beaf for the love of christ, burry your face in shame, bow to the incompetence of the administration you serve.

first you said they are cabals we fought the cabals to a public enquiry, even when we knw your govt has all the apparatchick to bring them to justice, now they are absolved, your shameless govt has taken plates to spdc like an almajiri begging for refinery.

where is that CBN mickey mouse on bow tie always parading his m0ronic economic solutions?

where is madueke and iweala, beaf admit it now you have the chance, jonathan's bouazizi imperialist economists are a buch of thieves bereft of common sense.

the fisherman with bola hat nko? dead failures.

You sound very bitter indeed. Are you one of the "born to rule?"
Lol!

We know how Nigeria got into the current position where we have to eject or handcuff the likes of Shell to regain our independence. We know who sold the country for a brown envelope and who is bitter now that their brown envelope fountain (the price for their kids) has stopped flowing.
It takes really low self-esteem for any Nigerian to get so angry that exploiters are being put in place.

@Crap 28
Why don't you pack off to Libya to hug Gaddafi's dead bones? We Nigerian's don't give a shiit.
In case you've forgotten, this topic is about Nigeria's interest. But of course, you wll forget when you haven't taken your daily dose of antipsychotic drugs.

^
What a sad psychiatric case.

^
Lol! Dude, why not just go take your medicine? You really sound madder than usual.

[quote author=A-ZeD link=topic=884767.msg10320877#msg10320877 date=1330778742]MUMU
I unlike you would never blame foreigners for the woos of Nigeria. That blames goes to my Government.[/quote]Keep blaming your govt even when they take the right steps and think you sound clever. You just sound like a humble licker of white arse.
Grow some self confidence, oyinbo people are not gods.

jp philips:
why was the mad rush to remove pet. subsidy when neither the palliatives nor the investment plan could be achieved.
beaf deserves to be stonned to death for decieving gullible Nigerians from April till date.

Your family deserves to be stoned to death for their mental slavery. Why don't you ask Shell for a passport so that you can become a Shell citizen to sell your own people who you call "bingo's?"

[quote author=A-ZeD link=topic=884767.msg10320841#msg10320841 date=1330778196]I never knew petrol subsides were introduced in europe.  Hmmm no wonder Petroplus went bankrupt. No wonder Exxon, chevron and bp have sold most of their stakes in refineries.[/quote]Daft.

If you wish to look out for the welfare of Europeans, I don't. The term for such, is low self-esteem.
I am only interested in Nigeria's interest. Which at this point is that oil major oil players in our land MUST build refineries to run a full chain from production to finished goods. If they cannot comply then they can stuff their custom and head for your beloved Europe.

[quote author=A-ZeD link=topic=884767.msg10320772#msg10320772 date=1330777374]Dude forget about Shell. Has Chevron, Mobil and other Oil companies operating in Nigeria built any in refinery here in Nigeria that you guys are clamouring kick shell out?
How about you guys clamour for NNPC to do its work and become an Oil company instead of pdp's Bank.[/quote]GEJ happened to be meeting with Shell, thats why their case came up. It will be the same with other oil players.
As for NNPC, I am tired of explaining to NLers how that works. It was never set up to build refineries, rather, it was set up to make the pillaging and exploitation of Nigeria by the likes of Shell smooth and easy.

NNPC is due to be broken up like PHCN. Hopefully, that will begin to happen this year or next. One of the resulting companies will be a true oil company that is built to make profits (not run on subsidies), that company will be able to compete with the likes of Shell and even go drill oil and build refineries in foreign countries like any real oil company can do.

We have had oil for half a century, but we have laid back to be milked and ra'ped by foreigners. Until recently, we had to go to the likes of Shell to tell us how much oil we had drilled for the day.
Such enslavement in our own land absolutely cannot continue.

^
Dude, please don't quote me, because you are impressively stup!d. A fool who thinks there are men on the Moon.

@topic.
Who cares if Shell is selling their refineries all over the World? How is that Nigeria's business?
Nigeria can only look out for her interest, which at this point is more refineries. If we are making it part of the rules for oil majors in the PIB, then Shell had better get used to it now or leave.

For those singing about Indian companies building refineries in India, they should go sing the same tune to the likes of Oando, who are only interested in collecting subsidies and so will only benefit if we keep importing fuel (which is the deal the #Occupy clowns fought for).

I scream on the government. So, I don't understand why you are also exempting Shell that is contributing to the problem as well. They admit they will fix the environment and what have they done about it. I don't buy that idea of lopsidedness - Shell and the corrupt leaders are of the same clique!

B[i]a[/i]ng on point!
We didn't get where we are today by accident. It is what decades of foreign exploition in collution with corrupt govts has wrought on us. Why anyone would go out on a limb to exonorate Shell while selling their own kids is at best, a mystery.

The decades of error have to be erased, and its got to start now. That the govt has neglected our refining capacity through the decades is a totally different kettle of fish from asking the biggest oil operators to add refining to their business. That will only ensure that all players have a full chain from production to finished goods, which is what sets developing countries apart from developed ones.

Any firm that feels it cannot deliver a full chain is not fit to drill oil or do other business with us. The full chain is a requirement in the PIB that we must enforce.

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Was it not you fighting bitterly for subsidies? Some of you are funny folk indeed.
Subsidies kill refineries. It is what we drummed into you guys ears, but mbanu! Una no wan hia! Now you are foolishly blaming political parties that will rule us for umpteen years, because there is no alternative. Its a fools paradise.

jp philips: @ all4naija.

i love your ambition but i can authoritatively tell you that shell is not directly responsible for the spill in the delta, if you dont understand, you ask people in pipeline operations to tell you exactly who is culpable.

the last time a shell pipeline exploded on its own causing spill was more than 5yrs ago, we recorded cases of leaking well heads which is inconsequential to the Bp example you gave above.

shell runs an integrated pipeline integrity assesment every month with one of the best contractors in the world, these contractors have the most advanced intelligent tools that scans those pipelines on 5 yr basis while cleaning and cathodic protection contractors work on monthly basis runing pigging tools, chemical injection and cathodic protection.

shell uses Rosen and TDW for pipeline intelligent inspection while they employ Nalco chemicals for corrosion control, these contractors are very reputable in europe and america and they do a very good job for shell.

what else do you want?

when mend blows up a 24" pipeline transporting 40,000bbls of crude daily, what do you expect? rhe crude will disappear?

sail through, ekulama 1 to odioma, awoba, krakamar, bile and belema and see what "kpo fire" boys are doing in connivance with jtf, tomorrow, you expect shell to clean it for you?

nonsense!!!!!

The worst thing any man can be is a slave in his own mind. That is what you are.
Nobody praises Shell the way you just did. There are even International human rights organisations like Greenpeace, Amnesty International, Friends of the Earth etc who have incredibly scathing things to say about Shells operations in Nigeria. But I guess a slave will always be a slave,  unsurprisingly, in an earlier post, you called the Niger Deltans "bingo's." You might think you are ventilating fury, but you really are ventilating low-self-esteem that makes you look ridiculous. We understand your type.

We will not take nonsense from foreign exploiters.

If Shell cannot build a refinery, then let them pack up and leave.
We have already forced them off most of their onshore operations which have been sold off. They need to pack out of Nigeria (and with love so strong, you can go with them whenever they leave).

^
I think Shell didn't build the refinery in Nigeria, cos they were scared of the effects of your stup!dity!
Is it caused by eating grass? Lol!

Even a toddler would know that all the crap up there was snatched straight out of you blistered anus. Even worse, it is complete OP that has nothing to do with the topic.

Guy, I'm wondering why you aren't even a little clever? Were you fed gari instead of milk as a baby?

Aigbofa:
No, I don't think it is right. And I don't think it is right either to burden Ekiti with special needs children from Delta.

Lol! Bruv, its a tourist attraction na! They are going to witness the healing sight of a multibillion governors lodge sitting amidst a sea of leaky red rusting roofs and poverty.

O dun mi gan!

Aigbofa:
What is your problem with Ekiti state? The people of Ekiti are not food poor. They don't do  1-0-1 or 0-0-1 like the people of Delta.

If Ekiti is so bankrupt, why was Delta sending their invalids to Ekiti to get  free Education?

Lol! Did the red font attract your attention?
Imagine a bankrupt state building billion Naira governors lodges. Sir, do you think that is right?

I de laf oooooo!!!
Progresssssssssssssssssives sha! Abi na progreThieves!

In the meantine, Ikuforiji is performing with Tinubu in Lagos (while we patiently await the hend of the hidiot, Aregbesola's "dry season". Lol!

[size=14pt]#Occupy Ekiti![/size]

basadenet:
@chino11. Thank you my bro.
3.9 Billion for mere construction of Governors office.
I hope ekiti state will not go bankrupt before he lives
They are all going to reap what they sow.
I pity Ekiti State oooooooooo

The state is already bankrupt. It is promininent on the NASS list of bankrupt states.

[size=14pt]#Occupy Ekiti![/size]