₦airaland Forum

Sun of god:
If we are now statistically analysing data and publically making inferences from data on electricity provision within Nigeria, can somebody quickly forward me the link to the data being analysed.

Let me draw my own conclusions after analysing the data myself - I choose not to rely on the conclusions some are trying to make without granting access to the data they have apparently studied.

And I would prefer quantitative rather than qualitative data! I want the raw data!

I'm waiting - 

Just playing on the discussion theme. . . Do you want raw data on Jonathans diction at the time he took on the mantle of improving electricity supply; or do you want raw data on if electricity supply has actually improved?

igbo boy:
@ OP:
OIC stands for Organzation of the Islamic Conference and not countries,

Thanks. Corrected.

celemel:
@JAKUMO: I stand by my statement. There's no statistical basis for your conclusion. My house in Abuja has experienced less power now, than in the last 6 months. Same as in Lagos. Also in Calabar, we mostly get power at night (as it was before). (This post is powered with laptop battery. PHCN disappeared at daybreak as is customary) Communication is key in leadership. The first quality of a good manager is his ability to communicate. Anything short of that isn't good enough for a country of a hypothetical 150 million (a number I still dispute for we are less than that, any way!)

. . .And which of our numerous Heads of State and Presidents has ever had command of English? I feel English is just being used as an attack vector on Uncle Joe, because nothing else can be found. It's truly pathetic.

celemel:
Maybe, we need to turn the thread to that of highlighting "common mistakes in english language".  It may pay off. It's like, a great majority of our people don't even understand the rules of grammar. Plenty of us won't do better than uncle GEJ. Take a look:
You either "rest assured" or "be assured" not "be rest assured". Tautology!    

What about the thread starter himself? The dude has contributed kernel cracking samples of ibon to this thread!

mobuch:
@ babsmii

Mr young man without issues, English is our language okay, so get that into your head, maybe you are one of those who find it difficult speaking impeccable English.
let me tell you something, I am a complete Igbo man, and I am yet to get  the kind of education which our Acting President has, neither  have I gotten  the kind of exposure he has, but mark my words, I grew up in Nigeria and schooled mainly in the east, yet my English is impeccable and is spoken without any primitive accent.  Any white man that listens to my accent here, gets this impression that Nigerians have very good English speaking accents.

We should try and do the right thing, if there is a part of our culture/life and native accent which is faulty, I think we should do away with it, and if there is a part of the western life/ culture which is faulty, then We should reject it and accept the good ones.

You don't even know basic tenses and yet you feel you are the right person to criticise others. Learn English first, after that people might take you a bit seriously when you complain about a leaders diction.
The rubbish up there that you call "impeccable English" is only laughable dross. But they say "empty barrels make the most. . ." Please complete the phrase for a revelation.

sinistyle:
@ beaf
speaking good English and delivering good governance are not mutually exclusive. I would love a charismatic president that would command the respect of the international community. Infact, if we have this, 1/8 of our image problem is solved. CNN is a far reaching tv network and people will definitely make positive or negative inferences based on how a nation's number 1 citizen presents himself.

I am sorry, they are. Speaking good English doesn't make a leader wiser, work harder or deliver services better. That's as plain as ABC.

Our image problems do not stem from spoken English (that's laughable really). We have an image problem from drug pushing in the 90's, 419, blatant corruption, govt vying with Boko Haram for the most primitive displays of violence, wickedness to strangers and fellow nationals, mind boggling incompetence, wretchedness were we should have plenty, lawlessness, loudness, ill manners, zero social amenities, no electricity, no potable water, the highest paid politicians in the World, Mutallab etc etc etc.

English is the last of our problems. Damn! It isn't even a problem!

90 percent of the time, changing the spelling of ones name to suit others is a sign of feelings of inferiority.
Mitsubishi from Japan don't care if we can pronounce the name. . . we can't, but we buy their products anyway!

Just wash ya hand jare!

Acidosis:
@BEAF:
I'm not half-witted, you know. I'm only trying to correct your insanity.

N.B: it's wrong to write half-wit as halfwit.

I'm not the one suffering from the inferiority complex thats ailling you guys so much that you prefer impeccable English to good governance. Twerp.
Talk of misplaced priorities and brains gone wrong!

Shagari and Babangida wrecked this country. Isn't it an irony that just 11 years after the World Bank was negotiated to borrow $360 Million from Nigeria, we were back negotiating with the IMF/World Bank because, we were burdened with an unmanageable $25 billion debt!

The death sentence needs to be introduced for corruption.

Nigeria has always been a secular country and with good reason; even with our secular status, there have been numerous eruptions of inter-religious violence, with thousands of life lost. [size=14pt]So why on Earth would a Head of State attempt to Islamise the country?[/size]

OIC membership
Babangida (unilaterally, without consultation with other bodies) upgraded Nigeria's role in the Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC), from a mere observer status to full-fledged membership. After public outcry and denial by Babangida, the John Shagaya panel was instituted to determine Nigeria's status in the OIC, subsequently confirming membership and making a recommendation for withdrawal from the body.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Babangida

With his reckless and totally irresponsible behaviour, Babangida is directly responsible for some of the violence that has taken place between Muslims and Christians.

oyb:
abegi - this over spirited defense of Johnathan is too much haba! - because hes your kinsman - if it was that gworo chewing cbn governor whose english had issues we know what you'd be saying

If you are talking to me, Jonathan is NOT my kinsman or from my ethnic group. . . Or are you really taking sides for narrow minded tribalistic reasons? Tribalists are usually quick to perceive "tribalism" were none exists.

Acidosis:
TO: SON OF GOD & BEAF

Are [size=14pt]u 'guyz' [/size] comparing me with a PhD. holder?

The fact is that, our a.g president lacks oral composition.
He reacted like someone suffering from minor halitosis.

(Halitosis: bad breath)

No, I never compared you to a PhD, that would be a really grave error!
What I said is that; your writing is like the communication of a halfwit, therefore you have no grounds on which to condemn someone elses diction.

sinistyle:
majority of NLers wont cease to amaze me. I cant believe educated people, as i'm made to believe, are down playing the importance of speaking well, that is communicating in fluent and impecable English. All this talk about us not being the owners of English language is nothing but rubbish. English is our official language so you've just got to be good at it.
It is important for Mr Johnathan to speak well cos it affects us as a people and especially at a time we're tryin to rebrand

This is one of the silliest things I've heard in my life. How does spoken English deliver services and good governance? How?
People amaze me! Talk of misplaced priorities!

Which do you prefer? Electricity 24/7 and measurable performance or impeccable English spiced with zero action and primitive interjections from Boko Haram?

[size=14pt]Vettel is on poll again![/size] . . .And both McLarens have gear box issues.

Shanghai Qualifying
1 S Vettel Red Bull
2 M Webber Red Bull
3 F Alonso Ferrari
4 N Rosberg Mercedes
5 J Button McLaren
6 L Hamilton McLaren
7 F Massa Ferrari
8 R Kubica Renault
9 M Schumacher Mercedes
10 A Sutil Force India
11 R Barrichello Williams
12 J Alguersuari Toro Rosso
13 S Buemi Toro Rosso
14 V Petrov Renault
15 K Kobayashi BMW Sauber
16 N Hulkenberg Williams
17 P de la Rosa BMW Sauber
18 V Liuzzi Force India
19 T Glock Virgin
20 J Trulli Lotus
21 H Kovalainen Lotus
22 L di Grassi Virgin
23 B Senna Hispania
24 K Chandhok Hispania

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Buemi's crash yesterday. Kai! See as de motor turn to boat!

kosovo:
Thanks, i typed that on my XPERIA X10 . . . sometimes not using my PC can be a pain in the backside!

Is that a shop in Idumota or IBB's latin name?

tensor777:
Well no Western country is ready to give any sort of visa to any terrorist or criminal.

Passport office deh your backyard?

Acidosis:
The Grammatical constructn was bad, too much fallacy & blunder.

He needs 2 be trained by a Rhetorician. U guyz should stop rhapsodizing his performance.

How can you write such crap language (like something from the bin or communication for half-wits) and criticise someone elses English? I find that truly incredible.

English will not solve our problems and the fact that none of our past presidents has had even a passing command of the language makes me quite suspicious of some of the motives of some here.

How I wish Gani Fawehinmi was still alive!
For the sake of Nigeria, I pray that there are other lawyers to take up this challenge.

IBB is not the problem, true.
[size=14pt]. . .But his actions are. [/size]Want to know where to look?

[list]
[li]Check the widow of his "best" friend (at whose marriage he was best man), Mamman Vatsa. According Vatsa's widow, IBB claims he had his "best friend" killed for a disagreement they had in secondary school [/li]
[li]Check the swamps of Ejigbo (in Lagos). A whole generation of military officers lies there, cut down in a contrived air crash. After the Orka coup, IBB feared that his only opposition lay among the young officers. . . So he wiped them all out [/li]
[li]Check the value of the Naira in your pocket, it was killed by IBB's Structural Ajustment Programme (SAP). A policy of artificial impoverishment as a tool to control the masses[/li]
[li]Ask IBB what happened to his bosom friend, M.K.O Abiola (RIP) [/li]
[li]Ask IBB what happened on June 12th 1993[/li]
[li]Investigate the death of Dele Giwa[/li]
[li]Do you remember how many media houses were burnt down to the ground?[/li]
[li]Ask IBB about the speech he made, saying he had tried everything to destroy the Nigerian economy, but was surprised at its resilience[/li]
[/list]

[size=49pt]IBB is a demon![/size]

If the country is not handled right, it will break up. Simple.

IBB's concern for children of mixed marriages is way off course. Instead, he should be asking himself about how the thousands of orphans he created are coping.

[size=49pt]IBB is a demon.[/size]

fishaboi:
[size=27pt]This topic is both braindead and malicious.[/size]

Tell the clownish OP jare! He wants to hold us back because, he can't get rid of a damaging complex.

I am curious as to the part of the state the qualified physics teachers come from. Northern or Southern Kaduna?
I can almost guess the answer, so next question. . . How many NNPC topshots are from Northern Kaduna?

There are certain things that are glaringly misplaced priorities.

Chinese GP free practice session two times

1 HAMILTON McLaren 1m35.217s
2 ROSBERG Mercedes 1m35.465s
3 BUTTON McLaren 1m35.593s
4 SCHUMACHER Mercedes 1m35.602s
5 VETTEL Red Bull 1m35.791s
6 WEBBER Red Bull 1m35.995s
7 SUTIL Force India 1m36.254s
8 ALGUERSUARI Toro Rosso 1m36.377s
9 KUBICA Renault 1m36.389s
10 ALONSO Ferrari 1m36.604s
11 MASSA Ferrari 1m36.944s
12 PETROV Renault 1m36.986s
13 DE LA ROSA Sauber 1m37.421s
14 KOBAYASHI Sauber 1m37.431s
15 BARRICHELLO Williams 1m37.657s
16 LIUZZI Force India 1m37.804s
17 HULKENBERG Williams 1m37.867s
18 TRULLI Lotus 1m39.624s
19 KOVALAINEN Lotus 1m39.947s
20 GLOCK Virgin 1m40.233s
21 CHANDHOK HRT 1m41.008s
22 DI GRASSI Virgin 1m41.107s
23 SENNA HRT 1m41.345s
24 BUEMI Toro Rosso no time

First practice, Shanghai.

Buemi just crashed heavily. Practice has been red flagged.
Freak accident, incredible! Both front wheels basically exploded off the car under breaking! Wow!

. . .Anyways, its Button, Rosberg Hamilton right now.

PapaBrowne:
Niiice one!! Looking forward!

Apologies. There's going to be a slight delay. We are suffering with uploading and a couple of bugs. . . Even after staying up all might.

SapeleGuy:
Mobuch - Goodluck delivered a virtuoso performance, he was diplomatic when he needed to be, open and honest as the case dictated and used humour to get out of a tight corners instead of becoming irate like some of our past leaders.

His body language was relaxed and open. Most importantly, he is comfortable with who he is and if he can give us electricity your grammar concerns will fade into microscopic irrelevance.

[size=14pt]PS - is the bolded a deliberate and ironic mistake. Acting President Goodluck Jonathan And His Too Many Grammatical Errors.[/size]

mobuch can crack kernel with his ogbu English, yet he isn't ashamed to complain about other people.

Eziachi:
Who cares how old the film is? If Fashola has close Ojota dumpsite, what happened to the people that use to live in the dumpsite? Did Fashola close them  too or did they move on with their lives to somewhere else (a new dump)?

The different between the West and our people is that, if this film is about somewhere in the West, the lives of Eric and Orji will dramtaically change for the best. They will become instant celebrities, everybody will like to seat and eat with them, most company will even adopt them as their image and pay them handsomely. If I happen to see the Eric's music, I will definitly buy it for his sake alone, not the music itself.
But here what many are worried about is that the BBC did not indulge is celebrating a false image of their country just like their leaders.

Bang on the money! Here's the dude on BBC website http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/2010/04/100412_outlook_lagos_dump.shtml
and here's interview he did with the Guardian (UK) - you need to scroll down;

Voices from the margins

ERIC OBUH

Eric, 28, works as a scavenger on the Olusosun landfill site, the largest dump site in Lagos, and has recorded his first album "Send Them Come".

"They call me Slender, Vocal Slender, that's my music name. Because I'm very lean in the face, and because I'm always singing my songs. I have so many songs I still want to record, good songs that I've written, but no one has heard. Songs about divine love, peace and unity in Nigeria, and others which praise all the girls.

"The film crew have made me a website. MySpace. It's not easy to get a website on your own. I know about 200 singers in Ajegunle where I live, but only two or three have websites. Ajegunle is the biggest ghetto in Lagos. It's where all the biggest Nigerian stars come from, people like Daddy Showkey, Baba Fryo, Mighty Mouse, African China, B'Clean, and Nico Gravity. Every night there's a party going on somewhere, people playing music on the street corners, or setting up sound systems to dance to.

"One day I'm going to be more famous than Craig David. Then I'll have enough money to be able to spend all day on my music, instead of working here on the dump. A lot of people who know me, my friends, and my family, they don't know I work in the dump. They believe I just do music. And I want to keep it that way, so I will have respect. It's not that the dump is bad, because the money I get from it keeps my body and soul together, and helps me make my music."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/04/documentary-film-welcome-to-lagos-nigeria

chamotex:
Spot on

By the way, this is the track from the guy in the dump, he's music is now being played on 9ja music stations.

http://www.myspace.com/vocalslender

I'm guessing he's living a better life now

He is even being considered as a replacement for the sick Da-Grin right now from one of the promoters of the London O2 concert show next month.
Now thats good news. I'm happy for him.

Yeah, the dude is a big shot now. He's been interviewed by all the top British media houses. . . [size=14pt]No more rubbish dumps for him![/size]
God blesses delingent, hard workers.

knotty:
those pics are not from Nigeria!
there are from Ghana.
CNN carried a reportage on it, something about recycled TVs and Computers from UK.
in fact, they are too clean and tidy to come from Nigeria of today.

besides, who has time to waste valuable photo session with garbage dwellers when OGD is celebrating his 53rd birthday?

blatant waste of exposures.

So these days, Ghanaians argue about being Igbo (from Agbor) or from the Niger Delta? Did you actually watch the documentary?
They spoke Yoruba, hausa and mentioned that the food at the their local buka was even if not tops in Lagos, was the best in Ojota. The people mentiooned they were in Lagos several times. The fire engines bore Lagos state inscriptions.

I tire for dis kain arguments jare! Lets fix our country!

[quote author=@labiyemmy link=topic=431316.msg5899771#msg5899771 date=1271368410]ok - lets say noone care about the rich people, but is a dump site a true picture of Lagos?

If someone shows a documentary of a dump site and scavengers in America and call is America- what will you guys say?[/quote]How about I say, it doesn't exist?

Accept the reality of Nigeria, if we fix things, nobody will find such scenes to film. Lets fix things to help ourselves and to avoid and avoid embarrassment. Thats the easy solution.

[quote author=@labiyemmy link=topic=431316.msg5899594#msg5899594 date=1271366072]The programme showed on BBC from 9:00 - 10:00 pm.

I can see the Nigerians in the UK saw it better than the yankee lots- who probably didnt see the programme but only the pictures here.

The question is- does the programme do justice to the title - Lagos? Is a mere rubbish dump a correct indication of Lagos?[/quote]It is part of a series. If its all negative, then we know that the BBC has an agenda. But that isn't to say we shouldn't clear up our mess.