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I just watched the BBC show. Its a touching story of poverty, the guys in the dump are very happy and organised, but poor.
The dude having his bath is a musician that used the dump to set up his music career.

That rubbish dump is a full ecosystem. Ultimately, something needs to be done to increase regulation or create amenities to save the health of the dump dwellers, The whole thing is a disgrace to Nigeria.

Funny people sef!
Let me add to your list;

[list]
[li]Jonathans toes are too long[/li]
[li]He is too dark[/li]
[li]He doesn't like tuwo[/li]
[li]He is likely to be able to speak pigin English[/li]
[li]He is likely to be able to swim[/li]
[li]He is likely to be able to make canoes[/li]
[li]He is a bad leader because, he doesn't speak like Obama[/li]
[li]He is not as tall as his bodyguard[/li]
[/list]

. . .Funny people!

mobuch:
The Igbos were ready to die for Ojukwu during the civil war because of his charismatic leadership mostly driven by his excellent communication skills.

I too would be ready to lay down my life for Jonathan if He  can make me enjoy listening to him.

@ sun of god

Pls leave them o, its a free world

If you were a woman, you would invite the whole World to sip the nectar meant for one!

Fhemmmy:
So what and how would you compensate the good citizen that never blew the pipeline before?

If you are talking about good Niger Delta citizens, then there has just been a bilateral agreement signed between Nigeria and the US. One of the priorities of that agreement is the development of the Niger Delta. There are several components to compenstating the area that has paid dearly with lives, property, health and livelyhoods to feed Nigeria.

mobuch:
As far as am concerned, Jonathan is a good person, but He is in not the best leader We have at the moment.

We need a leader who is an all rounder in every aspect of life, and with that way, Nigeria will not just move forward, we will leap forward. period.

If you would be practical, you would see that it is near impossible for any of our political parties to throw up a "good person", because the Nigerian system is built to sustain criminals and corruption.
Jonathans rise is a freak one, he is relatively untouched by the evils of political party affiliation. He owes nobody, that is why he has been able to loosen the grip of the cabal. The best we can do at this time is watch and pray that he gives us everything we want in the short time he has. If he does, we give him another 4 years to completely change the political culture of the country.

^
My friend, your analysis is deeply flawed. There are two sides of the brain, one side is good with languages, the other is analytical. An easy example to observe is that those who are the best at math, tend to struggle with language; while those who are good with language tend to struggle with math. You see it in every school. You can observe similar traits between left and right handed people.

The side of the brain you are best with, has absolutely nothing to do with reading skills.

It is easy to see that Jonathan has an analytical brain. That is what is best for Nigeria in my opinion; analyse and solve our problems, not go from country to country speaking English (which is not even our language).

Fhemmmy:
So how has the pictures on the walls affects anything?
Are they not cheaper than the arts that others have on the walls?
I beg let us concentrate on things that matter jare

Don't make me laugh, Fhemmmy. I'm sure harmless pictures were Saddams first steps to this.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/SaddamHusseinBronzeskulpturen.jpg/800px-SaddamHusseinBronzeskulpturen.jpg

Jakumo:
Way down yonder close to New Warri
Out in the woods among the ever greens
There stood a log cabin made of earth and wood
Where lived a young man named Johnny B Good

He never learned to read or write so well
But he fixed up Nigeria just like a ringing a bell

Go ! Go !   Go Johnny go !  Go ! Go ! Go  Johnny go!
Johnny Goodluck

Apologies to Chuck Berry

Jakumo!
Unu go kill me o!

006:
JT for President 2011. I like his temperament. It’s always lacking in most leaders and can affect one’s judgment.

I agree. That is a major plus in his arsenal, if not for it, Nigeria would still be crippled by the cabal (who would have morphed into an evil military dictatorship).
An even temperament will most times, provide balanced actions and replies.
[b]I recall a certain incident, when shortly after he was made Acting President, some adventurous dude blocked jonathans motorcade with his car. . . he was quietly charged to court! Not killed or beaten as would have been in the past! [/b]That’s the sort of thing we should be encouraging in Nigeria. After years of command mentality that only stresses us up and drags us back, Jonathan is showing a new way that is much more effective.

oyb:
from blowing pipelines to welding pipelines all in one year

E be like say your points done dry.

Fhemmmy:
Must they be sent abroad to be trained?
Some of them will even prefer the money for them to start up some good biz, or how much u think will be needed per person?

Where can you get courses in underwater welding in Nigeria? Just as an example.
Quite a few of our oil installations require such. Why not train local people to that instead of importing expatriates?

There is no law saying Jonathan must see Yar'Adua. He has already stated publicly in the Amanpour interview that he would love to see Yar'Adua; unfortunately, the path to Yar'Adua's bed is strewn with boo'by traps, tribalism and misplaced religious sentiment. Best to make it a side show.

In time, Jonathan will see Yar'Adua, but its not wise to push right away.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=430716.msg5897362#msg5897362 date=1271342681]when the boko harams and the jos militants sruck,you didnt suggest skills acquistion and re-orientation for them.now that your brothers are involved,you prefer to chose side instead of addressing the issue critically.it's only in nigeria you hear of this type of things happen.i recommend the massob members and opc participate in this investment.lol[/quote]Did the actions of the Federal Government cause Boko Haram or the Jos massacre? Your reply to my argument is so far off point, that it is incredibly ridiculous.
Do you in seriousness, think what you've said above qualifies as a reply to the points I raised?

Has the Federal Government siezed OPC or Boko Haram land and polluted it, siezed rivers and polluted them, polluted their air, killed their folk in thousands and made subsistence impossible? That is what has happened in the ND is being paid for (like it or not). Abeg, lets apply common sense jare.

Fuelless generator invention.
Foolishness generator invention.

mobuch:
I still dont see any reason why I should exchange words with you.
Mr Perfect English, there is a difference between typing comments immediately on the computer and writing an essay or an article.

I guess all your comments on my posts made the topic brain dead.

mschewwwwwwwwwwww

See how petty it is?
Can we now discuss electoral reform instead of Jonathans grammer?

It is a hangover from military dictatorships. We need to dump it fast!
Its the praise singers emblem. True signs of a sycophantic nation. . . Ghaddaffi would be happy.

mobuch:
Pls, if you guys are trying to divert from the topic under discussion,

I politely suggest you open a post for Electoral reforms

Your English is still poor.
. . .Original topic was brain-dead anyway. Electoral reforms are a much more pressing need.

marvix:
@beaf no mind all this bad belle pple is it because we hav not insisted dat PTDF scholarship shld b 4 only NDeltans graduates

Exactly, people just want awuf to flow, even if it is over other peoples dead bodies.

oyb:
i wonder how people who negotiate only with violence will integrate into the workplace

i also wonder if you would hire people who had kidnapped your workers and blown up your facilities in the past.

these same repentant militants who went on a looting and despoiling spree at uniport?

oh well, crime does pay

When you force people into crime, you get to pay them for your sins. Justice done.

londoner:
@Beaf, whether an election is won by PDP or an alternative party is irrelevent. Where people can not cast their vote, how can it be described as "credible"?

I never said Goodluck rejected the Uwais report. I said the President ie Yaradua, did not want a very important section of it implemented. Is this untrue? If it is then say so, because thats not what was reported.

All this "attack the progress" talk is the usual emotional outbursts that Nigerians tend to make when engaging in a dialogue they dont necessary agree with 100%, so I'll leave you to it. I want AG Goodluck Jonathan to succed, but I am entitled to my opinion too.

See what I mean about that whole "them and us" attitude that Nigerians run to. We have to stop seeing people as an enemy just because they see things from a slightly different perspective to you.

Come on!
These pages have seen the lowest tribal arguments. They are there for everyone to read. my last comment before you referred to me, was a rebuke to knowall for making a tribalist outburst. I didn't see you rebuke knowall, before attempting to correct me; so you are the one sustaining a "them and us" impression.

On the other hand, it is refreshing that your focus is moving away from English delivery to more fundamental issues like electoral reform. It is the duty of each and every Nigerian to see that their vote counts; that is a fundamental democratic right. We can do our bit by watching like hawks to make sure our desire comes to pass.

I find this article and the direction of 90% of its contributors to be very disturbing and shameful.

Those boys deserve every ounce of training they can get out of the govt. Nigeria is fed and watered of the back of the Niger Delta, but rather than reap benefits, ND land and waterways are seized and polluted with impunity by the FG. In other parts of the country, the jobless can fish, farm or hunt; in the ND, land, water, birds, fish and animals have been destroyed. The Niger Delta is the most polluted oil producing area in the whole World. What a shame!. . . What alternatives are left but to fight?
In order to positively occupy the hands and minds of those whose lands have been destroyed to enrich the nation, compensation must be paid. The training of the fighters is one form of compensation, but a lot more is coming, especially with the US agreement (signed last week) to develop the area. Its going to be the first industrialised part of Nigeria and deservedly so.

@londoner
The truth is you guys are clutching at straws in trying to attack the progress the country currently beginning to see.

Voting at the last three elections, FCT, Edo and Anambra was indeed credible. There were issues with the voters Register for Anambra, but those issues have not arisen in subsequent elections (improvement is an upward vector). As Jonathan has said, those were his first experiments at reforming the way things are done and there were tangible improvements; do not forget that both the Anambra and Edo elections were not "won" by the PDP (Jonathans party), as would have happened in the past.

Above all, it is on record that those who can say "ask" and not "aks" or say "the" (or "ze" not "de" have precided over the wholescale looting of our treasury and cruelly disenfranchised the man and woman on the street, while delivering ABSOLUTE ZERO (Zimbabwe is better than us per capita in power distribution, road networks and a host of other things). Neither the accent, nor diction of past leaders did much to improve their effectiveness; but here is a man who in two short months is making changes and what we hear from his critics is talk about English.

Also. When did Jonathan ever reject the full implementation of the Uwais report? That is a blatant falsehood.
It is on record that the Uwais report was sent unedited to the Senate.

[size=14pt]Ethiopia launches electric car despite power shortages[/size] 

Ethiopia has launched an electric car, despite suffering from power shortages. It is only the second African country to do so, after South Africa.

Two versions of the Solaris Elettra will be manufactured in Addis Ababa, costing around $12,000 and $15,000.

The cars will be sold in Ethiopia and exported to Africa and Europe.

But some doubt if Africa, where erratic power supplies, low levels of personal wealth and poor infrastructure are common, is ready for electric cars.

Carlo Pironti, general manager of Freestyle PLC, the company producing the Solaris, told the BBC's Uduak Amimo in Addis Ababa that Ethiopia's electricity shortages were not a major obstacle to operating an electric car.

"Ethiopia in future will have lots of power supply," he said.

"In any case, the car can be recharged by generator and by solar power."


Rwanda's bio-diesel bus 
Taxes on cars in Ethiopia can be more than 100% and many Ethiopians with low incomes will struggle to afford an electric car.

To overcome this problem, Mr Pironti says his company will develop a credit system for less affluent customers.

Six Solaris Elettras will be produced every week for the next three months, rising to 30 per week when Freestyle's factory in Addis Ababa is fully operational, he says.

Mr Pironti says he wants to take the Solaris "from a green country to a green world," referring to the company's plans to export the car from Ethiopia to Africa and beyond.

But Wayne Batty, senior writer at South Africa's Topcar magazine, believes only a small percentage of Africa has the necessary infrastructure to support an electric car.

Mr Batty told the BBC's Focus on Africa programme that electric cars are fine for short trips of 40 to 50 km (25 to 31 miles), but African countries lack the recharging points for longer journeys.

Ethiopia's electric car comes after Rwanda launched its first bio-diesel bus last week.

It is currently building a huge hydro-electric dam on the Omo river and hopes to become a major exporter of energy when that is completed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8596455.stm

knowall: The Major languages of Hausa, Igbo and Yoruba are very rich languages that have got a lot of proverbs, natural idioms and general wise connotation and adages. That is why most politicians from these tribes when they speak English they transfer the richness enshrined in these language to the English language thereby enriching the English language further.

. . .

What I noticed of the minority tribes especially the ones in the South-South, the Edo’s, Itsekeri, Ijos, Efiks and Ibibios because a large section of these tribes communicate in a particular form of English on a daily basis abandoning their local languages, they tend to forget, what they are speaking is not standard English and when put on the spot to speak in a press conference they speak a mixed variant type of the English language, a fusion of standard English and colloquial or Nigerian English. . .

This is an example of scraping the worst tribalist dregs from the smelliest gutter. It is at the same level as racism. Shame.

mobuch:
@know all

may you live long, my brother

Of course you would say that because someone has come out to make the most disgraceful tribalist generalisations. Sad.

Mixed weather is expected for Shanghai. This could provide another exciting mix up.

Sunday weather update - wet race start expected Welcome to race day for the third round of the 2009 FIA Formula One World Championship, the Chinese Grand Prix at Shanghai International Circuit.

It will be partially cloudy once again with an ambient temperature high of 22 degrees Celsius. There has already been rain during the afternoon, and it looks set for a wet start to the race.

The race will run over 56 laps of the 5.451 kilometre (3.387 mile) track, or 305.066 kilometres (189.568 miles). It will start at 1500 hours local time, which is eight hours ahead of GMT.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/4/9178.html

McLaren are expected to exploit their top speed advantages here to the fullest. But you never know.
Ferrari have opted not to change Alonso's engine. I think thats a huge mistake, because at best, they are likely to have to turn down the revs.

mobuch:
@beaf

YOUNGMAN.

Thanks for the prayer. I'll be forever young.

^
Don't call me "young man".
Respect yourself.

When did English become our mother tongue? You are leaving me lost now.
There have been several discussion between Obama and Jonathan and they have led to the tightening of relations between the US and Nigeria. Jonathan is a guy they can deal with. . . Regardless of English.

Actions count, not diction.

Jakumo:
Jonathan Goodluck has single handedly lifted Nigeria's 30 year electricity blackout.   That feat of magic is the ONLY accomplishment the man needs to mention as his qualifying credential, and is the only one that matters, ultimately.

[size=27pt]Goodluck Jonathan and Raji Fashola for President and Vice President of Nigeria 2011 ![/size]


All the way !   All the way !   All the way !

[size=27pt]Yes o![/size]
Folk like Fashola, Duke, Ribadu and El-Rufai need to be freed from the shackles that are holding them back to perform at a national level.

londoner:
Heads of states are trained on how to present themselves. Why are we acting as if its not important? Look at Bush, one of the most enduring memories of him was the way he came across as uneducated and less intelligent than his peers. We dont have to pretend that these things will not count in the future, although I agree that its not an issue of immediate importance.

I must wonder though whether people actually took note of what was said. Jonathan gave a worrying insight into his mindset and possibly the way he will be a "business as usual" leader. Did you notice that when he was asked about Iwu, he stated that the last THREE elections were FREE and FAIR?? Even Yaradua came out publicly to admit the last one was flawed. He is not singing from the same hyme sheet as the rest of Nigeria.

If he sees nothing wrong, its unlikely that there will be no real electoral reform or adoption of the Uwais report. I'm beginning to get worried.

Bush is a stup!d man who says stup!d things, that is what he is known for. English is also his first language. Jonathan did not say one irresponsible thing, yet you insult him with a comparison to clueless George Bush.
This unhealthy fixation with English is actually blinding you to very obvious current international realities. Jonathan has struck up a relationship with Obama, fact. Another fact; Obama gave him more attention than the other visiting heads of state (if you scroll through my profile, you'll find where I posted proof from an Asian news source). Fact, Jonathan is seen by the Worlds most powerful, as the new arrowhead for rejuvenating, not just Nigeria, but the rest of Africa.

If Obama, whom you guys have raised several times as comparison, can understand, is willing to do business with, and takes Jonathan very seriously; who are the rest of the World not to do the same?
After answering the above question, ask yourself how many Western countries conduct their business in English, that they will suddenly begin to view Jonathans English (rather than his actions) as a barometer of his seriousness. Why would French, Spanish, Italian, Dutch or German speakers judge Jonathan on his spoken English? Among the most important new economies, why would the Chinese, Japanese, Brazilians or Indians judge Jonathan by his diction, rather than his action?

Seriously, you guy's ain't making much sense.