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[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=412959.msg5689473#msg5689473 date=1268547510]Beaf, may I recommend that you remove the quotes credited to Sir Ahmadu Bello and Awolowo in your post because these quotes have been sited by various ethnic haters in many threads as an excuse to continue to carry on their hatred.

This thread should be free of such inflammatory quotes from the past. I can find similarly negative quotes from leaders from the South East and South South as well - funny thing is that people from that region may not find them inflammatory. Let's not start this exercise on the wrong footing.

What we want to do is encourage participation from as many people as possible instead of starting off with an implicit blame game.

Thanks[/quote]The words of our founding fathers at the period of independence and is surely of paramount importance. They set the foundations of the country.

A very strong part of remediation is finding root causes of the problem at hand by thorough analysis. If you are making the mistake of seeing this as a strictly tribal / regional issue, then you are making a big mistake and might not be emotionally or mentally ready. More than anything, it is a Nigerian issue. We must understand how the place turned out the way it has, before we can fix it.
Please take a second, impartial look at the article and if you feel that there are similarly negative quotes from founding fathers from the South East and South South from before or just after our independence; it is your duty to bring them forward for addition.

There is no blame game here, so please lets keep it civil.

“The GOC, Maina or – whatever his name is – I did call him many times, but he won’t pick my phone. So, one day I met him while he was going to the Governor’s office, and I stopped him and asked why he has refused to pick my calls after calling many times? [size=14pt]The idiot[/size] only told me he was overwhelmed by the happening. You see, I am a General. I called to show interest in what was happening, because I am here in Jos,” Bali fumed.

Jesu!

[quote author=Aloy+Emeka link=topic=412931.msg5688375#msg5688375 date=1268524769]So, Jos indigenes are hiring Niger Delta mercenaries now?. Militancy is quickly becoming a very lucrative job in Nigeria.[/quote]What do you mean?
First gist coming out is that the people they arrested are innocent traders;

Though a few kitchen knives, two saws, two hammers, two axes were found in the vehicle, it was not yet substantiated if they were really weapons to carry out an attack or mere tools to carry out their jobs.

One of the women, Mrs. Ijeoma Stanley, who spoke on behalf of the other women disclosed to THISDAY that they are traders and that they were on their way to Kano from Port Harcourt to sell and in turn, buy cloths back to Port Harcourt. She said the other 44 men joined the truck from Okigwe.

Driver of the truck, Mallam Lamido, who confirmed that the men actually joined his truck from Okigwe, said he did not have any cause to suspect them since they were not with any form of weapon. The suspects are being currently interrogated by the police to determine why they had to travel through Jos in such a large group at this time that the state is mindful of its security.

http://nigeriamasterweb.com/paperfrmes.html

[size=14pt]Sovereign Nairaland Conference[/size]

It can be easily argued and observed that Nigeria is not a nation. It is no more than a piece of land on which we exist. We have never entered into a contract between regions and ethnicities that would define the basis of our nationality. The very vagueness of a national definition is at the root of every pressing Nigerian problem. To what does the citizen owe their citizenship? What does the Nigerian state owe the citizen? What is the contract between citizen and state?
Sadly, there is no answer to any of the above, because the formation of the country was faulty and built on the wrong premises; take some of the most explosive statements of some of our “founding fathers”; https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-412959.32.html#msg5690683

If the founders of this country either had little faith or wicked plans for its future; it is not surprising that, in 1966, just 6 years after independence; the Aburi Accord documents were shredded and the country was at war. The tragic cost was no less than 3 million of lives. To this day, there has been no recompense, remembrance or mutually beneficial resolution and tempers are still high with the East left out of the Nigerian system.

The story was told by the late Mallam Aminu Kano himself (a true and convinced nationalist) of how, when he opted to study law instead of going to the teachers' college decreed by the British District Officer (D.O), his father was summoned by the district head and berated and threatened with sanction if he failed to convince his 'errant son' to drop his idea of studying law for primary school teaching, which the D.O. decreed. The young Aminu said he had to obey to save his poor parent from threatened indignities for producing a son who defied the British design on education for the North.

In other words, the British deliberately prepared two pseudo nations of Nigeria: A conservative, sectarian pan-Arabist North, and a Westernised secular South. This dichotomy of North and South has remained with us. We all know how efforts to balance the ethnic and political and religious equation of the North and South led to Chief Awolowo's treasonable felony trial of 1962, and also to the Nigerian civil war of 1967-70.

http://www.nigerdeltacongress.com/narticles/national_conference_need_to_make.htm

There is a quota system and Federal Character system that many are unhappy with, because, it seems to promote mediocrity above merit. This directly impinges on pace of development.

The country is 100% dependent on oil, gone are the groundnut pyramids, cocoa and palm nut industries of pre-independence times. Indeed, Malaysia acquired their oil palm industry know-how from Nigeria (the then, foremost producer) along with a couple of palm nuts. Today, Malaysia is the foremost producer and a developed country, while our oil palm industry has perished and we are classified as a state in danger of failure.

Nigeria is located close to the equator, but does not utilise Solar Energy and is afflicted with a comatose electricity supply system. We cannot seem to harness our peculiar environment for our own benefit; always looking to Europe and the US for solutions to peculiar Nigerian problems. The same lack of self pride and identity is evident in several areas of Nigerian life; made in Nigeria goods are discouraged and despised and many cannot speak their mother tongue.

Shocking human rights problems in the Niger Delta have led to the formation of local militias. These militias have directly threatened the Nigerian economy and stability by attempting to drive out the oil companies that have polluted their lands and destroying oil infrastructure. The Niger Delta is the most polluted oil producing area in the World, there is very little federal government assisted development, yet the area produces 98% of Nigeria’s foreign exchange.

Nigeria runs a unitary system of government; it can be argued that this is at the root of all our problems.

Nigeria is said to be a federation of ethnic nationalities. However, the country is run as a unitary system where the central government is overly strong and dictatorial. It gained its style from the British colonial government that invaded, fought and conquered the already independent peoples who lived around the River Niger. So by 1960, after the forceful amalgamation of the so-called southern and northern protectorates, Nigeria, which is the most populous country in Africa, was born by becoming independent. At its birth about 300 different ethnic nationalities or groups were forced against their wishes to form the union, like in the former Soviet Union which had about 120 ethnic groups.

http://www.greens.org/s-r/46/46-06.html

The purpose of this National Conference is to enable the 300 plus ethnic groups to negotiate modalities of inter-ethnic co-existence and state-ethnic partnership or severance. The lack of such modalities has led to frighteningly brutish pogroms such as the recent Jos occurrences. In 3 months, 1000 lives have been lost in Jos, this is equivalent to losses from all out war between, not one, but several countries. Without a framework or contract for co-existence, our 300 plus ethnic groups have come to see the overly strong and dictatorial central government as the only price worth fighting for and have become willing tools in the hands of evil men.

This National Conference will also thrash out logical propositions for our development. How Nigeria can move from a single commodity country to one that has a diverse and technologically advanced economy. This entails the formulation a workable citizen-state contract and the reorganisation / optimisation of the Nigerian federal architecture in such a way that there is an efficient symbiosis between citizen and state.

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[size=14pt]Please come forward with your proposals and suggestions for a vibrant, workable Nigeria.[/size]

There is no way we will ever throw away our culture. Do oyibo people wear buba and sokoto when they come to Lagos or do they wear their clothes from their own cultures? Abeg, be proud of who you are.
Jonathan should troway dat resource control cap sha

udezue:
Beaf,
Please tell me what the Biafrans did to Isoko and Urhobo, Bini ppl of Midwest?
The last time I checked Igbos were also natives of midwest so tell me did Biafra invade those Igbos too? The Midwest was declared Republic of Benin not Biafra so what are u talking about? Can u give us stories of biafra genocide against non Igbos of midwest? You can disagree with him but please don't start accusing Biafrans of anything coz u know damn well they were on their way to the capital Lagos and Midwest happened to be a region they had to pass. If the non Igbo Midwest ppl had any common sense they would have joined in the fight liberate the South but naw they joined the North that is now crushing them. Weren't Midwesterners also slaughtered but I guess it was easier to face their fellow victims the Igbo and Easterners coz it was more convenient. The truth is that the midwest was too opportunistic and cowardly to realize that they were making a mistake by turning on their fellow southerners. We all know about how Igbos were slaughtered enmass by civilians in Benin and then moved towards Anioma. For a while ppl in Benin avoided eating pig because many Igbo corpses were eaten by pigs. Igbos who had kids with non Igbos in Midwest even started changing the names of their kids to avoid any detection that they were Igbo.

What did the Igbo civilians have to do with Biafra troops? Abi na only Igbo made up the Biafra army?

Please don't even bring up that topic coz you are just about open up old wounds.
Biafra should apologize to Midwest?? Fow what my friend?

Most times when people say this bullsh!t of South South being mean to Igbo's during the war, I ignore it or try to make them see reason. But the amount of senseless accusations on this thread is mind boggling; it is like being called a thief when you are innocent. Caution Otele, I don't expect that you would fall into the same trap.
That the Igbo had problems with two South South groups does not make it the whole of the South South. I can name tens of South South ethnic group from Afemai to Ibibio.

Thank you for all your questions. You have only gone to show that there is no reason for anybody to accuse the South South of any wrong doing against Igbos. Benin does not equate to the South South. Therefore, I stand by every word I said.
There is a lot wrong with people throwing false accusations around, whereas, this is the time we need to open our eyes and cooperate.

As for minorities not joining in the war, we weren't asked or invited, but were caught in a war between massive forces.The so called "Republic of Benin" was declared without any consultation and governed by an Igbo man Albert Nwazu Okonkwo. My own father was saved from exequition at that time, just for being in the civil service; his driver saved him. Does he hate Igbo's now? No! Do I? No!

The most important thing right now, is to realise that mistakes are made when blood is hot. The civil war has come and gone, tragically, so many lives were lost. We must always look back at the errors we all committed and plan for a better tomorrow. The South South are not enemies to the Igbo.
Any differences with the Ijaw and Bini's can be thrashed out, but they do not make up the South South.

nedu666:
lt is sad but i think we are making a mockery of prayers in this country and attempting to patronise God. Imagine everything starts and ends with prayers even when the subjects are not making efforts. e.g. praying against road accidents when the roads are bad, they cars are inn bad shape. Praying against armed robber when there is massive unemployment and poverty. Praying to God togive waziri the strength to fight corruption when she is corrupt.s

Kai!

www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6

You have accurately captured Nigerian hipocrisy and mental laziness. . . Scratch the surface and you will find the deceit and wickedness that led to the Jos massacres.

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My guy, use your head before you post crap. When did South South take part in the history you are inventing above?
Please take time to learn what the South South is before making unfounded statements.

In case you don't know, Biafra invaded the MidWest just like the Federal troops did. MidWest is now in the South South.
Tell me what harm did Itsekiri's or Isoko's did to Biafra that invaded them? Who should be apologising to who? Ode!
It is time to look toward what we can achieve together and hands are reaching out everywhere, let us accept.

chic2pimp:
Make una peeps leave Schmi alone jare.

I'm sorry to say but all is fair in love and war

You actually forgot to add the Jacques Villeneuve Incident . Schuey takes no prisoners ooo. He wants to win and he'll do anything to achieve this

Na only Jacques Villeneuve?
What about the case of illegal fuelling and Senna etc etc etc. The dudes log book is too full sha!

. . .Rosberg beware, you tink say you be ninja now!

Katsumoto:
That is what happens when you have a policy to just promote dunces to high positions just because of ethnicity. If Jang actually called him, he would be saying Jang did not file an official report with his office during office hours. He got reports at 3.40 am but sent troops at 5 am. Where were the soldiers? Drinking kunu perhaps.

He actually got reports before 9 PM the previous day, in his own word;

“However, I’ll like to tell you that some text messages were received by some of my officers which they forwarded to me. And let me just read some of them to you… that some Fulani men were seen in large numbers around Barkin Ladi and Furbon area, and that was 12 minutes to 9pm [on Saturday]. Another text came in at about quarter past 11 pm, and this one said some Fulanis were seen with some weapons around Jos East. None of the texts mentioned Dogon-Nahawa.

I use mainly Visual Studio and notepad.

The mans story is just fuc'king ridiculous. Is he saying that untrained Fulani men could negotiate their way to Dogon Nahawa better than a trained army?
Jesus Christ!

Qualifying times for the top ten
1 S Vettel 1:54.101
2 F Massa 1:54.242
3 F Alonso 1:54.608
4 L Hamilton 1:55.217
5 N Rosberg 1:55.241
6 M Webber 1:55.284
7 M Schumacher 1:55.524
8 J Button 1:55.672
9 R Kubica 1:55.885
10 A Sutil 1:56.309

Okay, I cheated in my last post (thats actually Kimi ), but here's the vid of shumi' incredible racing line parking manoeuvre to sabotage Alonso in 2006. Priceless!

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chic2pimp:
Dayummm that was a Minor Shock, Vettel on poll
Oh c'mon give it a rest will ya?
The season ain't even a race old yet

True, we expect him to be back to his cheating old ways in the near future.
Anyone remember how he packed sooooooooooo neatly to stop the qualifying session at Monaco and prevent Alonso making strides toward his second World Championship?
Damn!

doyin13:
Vettel has obviously carried some momentum from last season.

Hamilton had the second best drive in an unfavourable car.

It will be interesting start tomorrow especially with the Ferarris
in 2nd and 3rd. Might get testy if Alonso's antecedents are anything
to go by.

Its going to be between Massa, Alonso and Hamilton for podium places, Vettels car is both mechanically unreliable and doesn't use tires properly. Tomorrow will be very exciting.