all4naija:

No, it is not! I never said it is either. You are the one making a mountain out of a molehill from having babies in overpopulated world. The fact that you don't have a single idea of the world population and the probable consequences on the earth survival makes me wonder if you even know what you are talking about. You want to mess up this earth further. Instead of you educating people on depopulation you are here planning to have 2 kids and adopt another from somebody you possibly encouraged to produce more. Jeez!

It's not a rocket science to understand the kind of person that you are from your posts. Aren't you an African woman? Please... Let's leave that trivial part of the argument alone and discuss on the issue of feminism at hand. Which has become like a religion to you and the food you eat. What more can I say when you gladly pride yourself for being a feminist?! Huh!

I don't see you as somebody 'naturally happy' because you don't have a descent boyfriend yet. So what are you now happy about more than the wrong ideology of feminism?

On the final note, you can't wish me a happy independence day with those frowns and msschew. That wish is hard to swallow, lady. You aren't equal until you learn to accept gender equality not feminism.

Thank you.

BeastOfNoNation:


Feminism isn't a religion to me. Yes, I am a part of a feminist group but I'm also a part of a child help group. I'm also a part of the YMCA here in Calgary. I'm also a part of the Y7G Aboriginal Appreciation group here in Calgary. I'm also a part of the Urhobo-Isoko association of Calgary. Do I worship any of them as a religion? No. They are simply things I believe in.

Other things I feel I should mention:

A boyfriend isn't a prerequisite to being happy.

Are all African women the same?

I'm very knowledgeable about the world population.
I'm also knowledgeable about the fact that procreation isn't solely for the means of populating the earth but also for personal and emotional reasons.

Should all people that want to procreate be jailed?

If I adopt then I'm a bad person now? And where did I say anything about convincing someone to get pregnant so that I can adopt their kids? Can't I walk into an adoption home and adopt kids? And you DID say that having kids should be a criminal offence or did I read this wrong: "I think you need to be jailed for planning to increase the population and for planning to put more pressure on the environment."

You don't know me so please stop taking personal attacks at me

My ribs hurt for laughing out loud. I almost hit my head on the desk. You are the funniest feminist without direction that I have ever seen. When you couldn't get a date from a descent guy you started joining advocacy groups to see if you will get happiness from there. Then you build up this utopia where you will live with 2 kids and adopt others from baby boomers just to satisfy yourself of increasing the earth population. I think instead of jailing you to waste tax-payer money you should be put to the gallows for trying to put the world in dangerous position. I mean that as a joke. Please, don't take it personal and start crying again. I hope you would understand as a feminist that is superior to men. Bwahaha...

I never said feminism is a religion, I said it has become like a religion to you. What I mean by that is the way you have pre-occupied yourself with it and trying to use it as a means to an end. That's what religionists do also. They use the process of religion to seek gods which doesn't exist.

Having a descent boyfriend is not a pre-requisite to happiness but it is a recipe for happiness as a lady. You are trying to challenge nature by not seeking for a descent guy like myself(civilized and organized) wherever you are and that by definition is another crime that's very punishable by jail sentence. Hahaha...

All African women are not the same but they aren't so much different as well. By their phenotype they are easily recognizable and the same can be said of the genotype. Perhaps they are different in dispositions and culture. Those are not important to this discussion and you don't have to give excuses for them, whatsoever!

For families that want to make babies should be ready to pay dearly for them. They should be heavily taxed by the society for putting pressure on resources and the environment. Also be ready to contribute to educating others on depopulation and one child to a family plan so that the earth can heal in the future. We are preparing a very dangerous future for the kids. If we don't start acting now we are going to put their lives in danger. Claiming to love children and destroying their future at the same time is an unforgivable hypocrisy. You need to desist from it as a feminist(a lady that's superior to men).

You can adopt children without having to produce two kids of your own thereby reducing the population by two. That makes you a good person but if you do otherwise you are a bad person. Meanwhile, I didn't say you convince anybody to have kids. I said you will adopt the children from those you possibly encouraged to produce babies. That is more or less an emphasis from me on your wrong view to increase the earth population and ignoring its consequences.

There are laws which guide adopting children in different countries and I don't know much about that. I would have to read one or more information on that before I can answer that question. You ask too much question though. Aren't you a feminist that is superior to men? However, you didn't misunderstand my jail term punishment for planning to have kids. It is a Dysphemism and nothing more than that.

For the few time I have spent debating with you here I have come to know a lot about you as a self-acclaimed feminist without having idea of what it is.

I hope you aren't going to cry like a baby again. Bwahaha...

all4naija:
My ribs hurt for laughing out loud. I almost hit my head on the desk. You are the funniest feminist without direction that I have ever seen. When you couldn't get a date from a descent guy you started joining advocacy groups to see if you will get happiness from there. Then you build up this utopia where you will live with 2 kids and adopt others from baby boomers just to satisfy yourself of increasing the earth population. I think instead of jailing you to waste tax-payer money you should be put to the gallows for trying to put the world in dangerous position. I mean that as a joke. Please, don't take it personal and start crying again. I hope you would understand as a feminist that is superior to men. Bwahaha...

I never said feminism is a religion, I said it has become like a religion to you. What I mean by that is the way you have pre-occupied yourself with it and trying to use it as a means to an end. That's what religionists do also. They use the process of religion to seek gods which doesn't exist.

Having a descent boyfriend is not a pre-requisite to happiness but it is a recipe for happiness as a lady. You are trying to challenge nature by not seeking for a descent guy like myself(civilized and organized) wherever you are and that by definition is another crime that's very punishable by jail sentence. Hahaha...

All African women are not the same but they aren't so much different as well. By their phenotype they are easily recognizable and the same can be said of the genotype. Perhaps they are different in dispositions and culture. Those are not important to this discussion and you don't have to give excuses for them, whatsoever!

For families that want to make babies should be ready to pay dearly for them. They should be heavily taxed by the society for putting pressure on resources and the environment. Also be ready to contribute to educating others on depopulation and one child to a family plan so that the earth can heal in the future. We are preparing a very dangerous future for the kids. If we don't start acting now we are going to put their lives in danger. Claiming to love children and destroying their future at the same time is an unforgivable hypocrisy. You need to desist from it as a feminist(a lady that's superior to men).

You can adopt children without having to produce two kids of your own thereby reducing the population by two. That makes you a good person but if you do otherwise you are a bad person. Meanwhile, I didn't say you convince anybody to have kids. I said you will adopt the children from those you possibly encouraged to produce babies. That is more or less an emphasis from me on your wrong view to increase the earth population and ignoring its consequences.

There are laws which guide adopting children in different countries and I don't know much about that. I would have to read one or more information on that before I can answer that question. You ask too much question though. Aren't you a feminist that is superior to men? However, you didn't misunderstand my jail term punishment for planning to have kids. It is a Dysphemism and nothing more than that.

For the few time I have spent debating with you here I have come to know a lot about you as a self-acclaimed feminist without having idea of what it is.

I hope you aren't going to cry like a baby again. Bwahaha...

BeastOfNoNation:


You really don't know anything about me. You talk like I've never had a descent boyfriend before. I never said I haven't met nice good Nigerian guys. I mentioned that the only issue I had with the ones I've met is that they tend to believe women are second to them.

Anyway, I'm tired of this conversation because it's not going to achieve anything. It's only vexing me and I'm not used to this and quite frankly I don't like you very much. I actually think you have serious problems. If I say I'm no longer a feminist, will you end this conversation?

(And happy nigerian independence )

I know something about you. You are a feminist. If the men you have dated don't treat you right and believe you are secondary that make them not to be descent guys.

I like when people hate me a lot, most especially, ignorant feminists like you. Bwahaha...

Sorry, I didn't ask for the independence greetings in the first place.

all4naija:

I know something about you. You are a feminist. If the men you have dated don't treat you right and believe you are secondary that make them not to be descent guys.

I like when people hate me a lot, most especially, ignorant feminists like you. Bwahaha...

Sorry, I didn't ask for the independence greetings in the first place.

BeastOfNoNation:


They don't treat me badly. They can be gentlemen but it just irks me when they make comments about women being secondary and how they can't marry a woman with big dreams.

You didn't answer my question. If I say I'm not a feminist, will you stop insulting me and making false assumptions as to my character?

all4naija:

Men who can't marry women having big dreams are not gentle to me. Jeez!

Excepting you want us to end this conversation. You don't really believe in gender equality. I know that and I can feel it in my bone.

all4naija:

No, it is not! I never said it is either. You are the one making a mountain out of a molehill from having babies in overpopulated world. The fact that you don't have a single idea of the world population and the probable consequences on the earth survival makes me wonder if you even know what you are talking about. You want to mess up this earth further. Instead of you educating people on depopulation you are here planning to have 2 kids and adopt another from somebody you possibly encouraged to produce more. Jeez!

It's not a rocket science to understand the kind of person that you are from your posts. Aren't you an African woman? Please... Let's leave that trivial part of the argument alone and discuss on the issue of feminism at hand. Which has become like a religion to you and the food you eat. What more can I say when you gladly pride yourself for being a feminist?! Huh!

I don't see you as somebody 'naturally happy' because you don't have a descent boyfriend yet. So what are you now happy about more than the wrong ideology of feminism?

On the final note, you can't wish me a happy independence day with those frowns and msschew. That wish is hard to swallow, lady. You aren't equal until you learn to accept gender equality not feminism.

Thank you.

BeastOfNoNation:


Feminism isn't a religion to me. Yes, I am a part of a feminist group but I'm also a part of a child help group. I'm also a part of the YMCA here in Calgary. I'm also a part of the Y7G Aboriginal Appreciation group here in Calgary. I'm also a part of the Urhobo-Isoko association of Calgary. Do I worship any of them as a religion? No. They are simply things I believe in.

Other things I feel I should mention:

A boyfriend isn't a prerequisite to being happy.

Are all African women the same?

I'm very knowledgeable about the world population.
I'm also knowledgeable about the fact that procreation isn't solely for the means of populating the earth but also for personal and emotional reasons.

Should all people that want to procreate be jailed?

If I adopt then I'm a bad person now? And where did I say anything about convincing someone to get pregnant so that I can adopt their kids? Can't I walk into an adoption home and adopt kids? And you DID say that having kids should be a criminal offence or did I read this wrong: "I think you need to be jailed for planning to increase the population and for planning to put more pressure on the environment."

You don't know me so please stop taking personal attacks at me

johnson232:

Why hinting on adoption when u haven't even gotten married?
U think adopting a child is a decision u can make alone without serious discussions with ur partner?
Do u know if he is gonna support the idea? Or do u have problems with ur womb?
How old are u?

BeastOfNoNation:


Of course I know adoption is a serious issue to discuss with a spouse. I also know that it's something I'm going to do anyway. Besides it's not something I hide in day to day discussion. My future husband would be someone who already knows my stance on the issue. And no I don't have a problem with my womb. I don't have to explain my life to you. This isn't what the thread was about.

johnson232:

@bolded, U're a very sensible fellow. Population is one of the biggest challenges facing this country today. I think laws controlling birthrate should be enacted & enforced in this country.
The population is really getting out of hand....

johnson232:

@bolded, U're a very sensible fellow. Population is one of the biggest challenges facing this country today. I think laws controlling birthrate should be enacted & enforced in this country.
The population is really getting out of hand....

BeastOfNoNation:


I don't know why all4naija thinks I don't believe in population control just because I want to have two kids of my own. It's an issue I've discussed thoroughly with other people and I've always fought for population control. Even in China where they have population control, at least they are allowed to have one child and pay for the others.

all4naija:

'My future husband'. Smh... You have spoken like a religious feminist though.

all4naija:

Your idea of population control is skewed. You want to have 2 kids and adopt others from people you probably encourage to increase the number of people in the society. That is a wrong concept of population control to me.

BeastOfNoNation:


What do you mean "encouraging to increase the number of people in the society?" I'm talking about adopting a child who otherwise would have no home. Or are you hinting at the Pro-life vs. Pro-choice debate?

all4naija:

How do those orphanage children come about? It is true encouragement ladies give themselves in their gossip time. They would advise themselves to get pregnant for him to stick with them not knowing it will turn out very ugly at the end. I hope you are now getting the clear picture.

BeastOfNoNation:

So essentially, being feminist won't land me a husband?

BeastOfNoNation:


But I've never done that. What sense would I be using by telling them such? The children that came about just because of Konji nko? Was I the one that encouraged it? My motivation for adopting children was because I volunteered at a homeless shelter last year. The children of irresponsible people were suffering in loneliness and many of them had depression at such a young age. Is it right? No. So I want to adopt children #Shikena. I haven't encouraged anyone to have children that they can't take care of. Adoption is part of population control.

Please tell me, do you not like kids?

ghidefemi:


Is that not what is happening now?

all4naija:

I like kids but I hate it when people put them in a precarious position. That is worse than a crime for jail sentence I have given to you many times here. Ah!

BeastOfNoNation:


So did I put any child in a precarious situation?

all4naija:
You pretend not to but increasing the population by 2 kids exposed your flawed approach.

BeastOfNoNation:


There's nothing wrong with having two kids. Having six is where my alarm bells would be ringing.

all4naija:

Not with the present world population and resources. Just adopt and educate people to depopulate. If you think your man is going to leave you for that you can come and be with me(if that is making you feel despair) and my girlfriend. I will there for you when you feel lonely. We have to save the earth because we only have one to be sure of at the moment.

BeastOfNoNation:


This guyyy okay are we on a good note now?

all4naija:

Yes, we are!

BeastOfNoNation:


Okay, I'm happy now

BeastOfNoNation:


I know men and women are equal. That is what I've been shouting since. My question was addressing why some men believe that isn't so. I'm not the person you should be telling this to. Talk to some of the guys above that believe women should be submissive slaves and are merely a support system for when men fall from their rise to the top.

idbusah:


Like I stated in my comment, the behavior of such men can be linked to their upbringing, personal experiences or even societal influence- these factors have been in play since time's inception and can't be downplayed with just a flick of the wrist.
Misogyny is just like a religion in which when someone's whole-heartedly committed to it, his perception of the world revolves around it.

One thing I just want to drive at is that if the term "feminism " is what you say it is, then it should be called something else like "gender equality movement". This is because "feminism" sounds like it is only women who are suffrering and men don't get their own fair share of unequal treatment.

all4naija:
It is good to see you are happy now. I like happy people, you know.