all4naija:

Yes, they exist! I am one of them. I also think princeprinz is one of them by heart. Why are you biased a little bit? What has nationality got to do with that? Huh!

all4naija:

Okay! That makes a lot of sense. You are a very smart lady and I don't know why you have to choose feminism over gender equality. Perhaps you would have to read more on it to have a better understanding of the ideology.

all4naija:

Okay! That makes a lot of sense. You are a very smart lady and I don't know why you have to choose feminism over gender equality. Perhaps you would have to read more on it to have a better understanding of the ideology.

Johnnoah1st:
SO u are a male pretending to be a female?

Vinshu:
First of all.. this is what we, the feminists are fighting against. In the Nigerian environment there is discrimination against women. African men in general have the Alpha-like feeling that they are the boss of the boss.

And they present it in a way that women are lesser than they are. It's true. Even in the economy, the top positions in offices are run by Men, even major paying jobs are run by Men. Women are mostly traders (Petty) why?

All government offices are headed by Men. In fact I heard a news that a state in South East Nigeria appointed a Man to head women affairs. How long would this continue?

A guy does a favor for you, he expects a Mouth Action. Why?

They feel when they marry you they are doing you are favor. WTF?

If a girl express her feelings towards a guy she cares about.. she is cheap.

I was at an event last week and a guy requested my contact info and I was hesitant in releasing it to him then he offered me money. Why? Like I'm some LovePeddler? Most men have the idea that all women are prostitutes. .direct and indirect that we all love money. It's rude and disrespectful but who cares? It's Men's world.

A girl is raped they blame the girl for her dressing and no one blames the guy. Continue.. there is God.

No one cares about a girl's opinion in a conversation once 3 guys have spoken.. whether it's good or bad it's settled.

I do not blame these men because women are in the shadows. It's time to start fighting for our place in the society and stop feeding them that ego or giving them the chance to feel on top.

So @Op, not Nigeria alone. .it's everywhere.

If you want to get married make sure you use brute force.

BeastOfNoNation:


I didn't ask for your forgiveness because I'm not wrong.

BeastOfNoNation:

And talk about what?....

BeastOfNoNation:


I'm talking based on experience and the fact that majority of the guys on this thread are misogynistic or support such views. I clearly stated that I'm only attracted to nigerian guys and I generally like everything about them. My ish with them is that they can be so biased and prejudiced towards females. It's annoying being told that if I marry a Nigerian guy, I'll become a servant to him for the rest of my life and any dreams I had come second to his.

Who are the majority of guys(who are misogynistic) here that you talk about? I think you made that up. There is nothing wrong being attracted to your nationality but we have seen what you want is not found in them. There you have it. You are completely a biased lady yet you claim to be feminist. Bwahaha...

You get scared easily. It is not hard to be told the truth about the Nigerian society that it's backward. For that simple reason learn to appreciate other nationalities that share your views. Looking at this very post, I would say you don't really know what you want, honey!

Vinshu:


A guy does a favor for you, he expects a Mouth Action. Why?

Are you even for real? You are now using Bill Clinton and Moniker Lewinsky case to judge every man. You are typically a supporter of misandry!

pinceprinz:


I needed 'peace of mind' . Didn't forgive because af u ...

Tbh anyway, Your idea on what feminism is all about is not what I used to know or made to believe it is , so go girl! Be the best version af u

Thank you, buddy! It is good you forgive BeastOfNoNation.

BeastOfNoNation:


You know what? I don't want to fight with you. We believe in the same thing so why are we even fighting?

Adanna28:


Actually I do, my father and my partner whom both are Nigerian men

It obvious you are on the look out to impress a woman, no doubt with how your advertising you need a "strong woman", and by the looks of your display pic it must be the beach on nairaland, so I'll let you do your thing.

all4naija:

This one got me laughing all day! It means we should start seeing psychologists to help us out of this puffy nature we carry about when around women. I am sorry to say women need to up their game by fighting for equality rather than fighting for superiority(which is the agenda of typical feminists). Feminism discriminates against men in a nutshell. It is selfishness! That is the major reason why I don't support it. I completely support equality!

Do you think nature has anything to do with this or it is mainly a cultural thing?

MrsPhyno:

Feminism = equality of sexes
so anything else is just confusion okay It doesn't discriminate against men or anything else your postulating and yes. Some of y'all need professional help as far as your gender differencs mentality is concerned

Culture partially. Rather, culture enhances it. It's mostly nature tho I think. Cause even rootless cosmpolitans have this problem.

Ironically, it is like women aren't puffy but like to be noticed with the biggest butt, sophistication and best dressed when around men they often reject as not men enough. After all, men are the only ones who are arrogant in nature that need psychologists.

BeastOfNoNation:
Hello Nairaland! This is my first post I've been on Nairaland for a long time but I've never real felt the need to post anything before but this topic was paining me and confusing me at the same time.

As a bonefide Naija babe (REPRESENT), I made up my mind that when I am ready to marry, I MUST marry a Nigerian guy or I would rather die single (nothing wrong with this sha). The only issue I'm encountering thus far is that the Nigerian guys I've met are very misogynistic I don't even understand why. Growing up I was told that as a child of God I could do ANYTHING but I suppose that Nigerian male ego trumps God's word

So this is a question to all the Alpha-Males out there! Why do you believe that women are less than you? I didn't grow up with this ideology at home and neither did my brothers so I would like some clarification!!

Please remember to be respectful in your answer pleeease! No insults because it's not necessary for healthy discussion. patiently waiting for answers!

idbusah:


Everyone is already equal regardless of gender. Masculine and feminine exist to complement each other and not to compete against each other. Males have their functions and so do females or haven't you wondered why all humans don't belong to the same gender?

The equality is there already. Feminism is just a phenomenon created by humans and we have seen all the confusion it has brought about.
You say men are ego driven and believe they are superior to the women but I'll tell you this: Men are simply being what they are. I don't want to infuse too much religious talks in my argument but since the world's inception, man was first created and he was directed to lead- that was his primary assignment and then the woman was later created to accompany him and also for humans to multiply on earth (reproduction ). But of course, over the course of many many years, humans have learned new things and experienced a lot of incidents which have resulted in both genders (especially the females) taking roles which they were not "hard wired " for. In the course of history, we've seen women and girls achieve great feats in politics, science, arts, sports, e.t.c. Women have led religious groups, tribes, nations and even armies on the battlefield!

The funny thing is that most of the things that bring about arguments such as this are coming from the west (white people!). For example, before the advent of slave trade and colonialism, there were certain indigenous rites and rituals that we africans HAPPILY performed until the white people came to our land and told us that our cultural practices are bizzare and wrong and we nodded our heads in gullibility. Fast forwarding to a more recent time, the western governments, through their institutionalized media, kept pushing that homosexual relationships are a good thing and now we have gay activists in Africa- I'm not condemning LGBT because I believe in God but because it is not correct in all aspects and it doesn't in any way conform with common sense.

Now back to the topic, I strongly believe that you (op) have made this post based on your personal experiences with Nigerian men- the Nigerian men you've met. But I can assure you that not all Nigerian men- not all men believe they are superior to their feminine counterparts. The ego drive in men is a natural thing just as the show of emotions in women. But still, not all men are ego driven and not all women show emotions.

Although, there are men who push their ego drive beyond limits and that seems to be the category of men you've met, they might have reasons for this sort of behavior such as; upbringing, insecurities, past experiences, e.t.c. (as earlier comments have stated) OR they simply believe they should always lead in every situation as it is their primary role in the society and then they take this belief to the extreme. Not all men are like this.

Women also play very important roles in the society but the advent of movements such as feminism has blinded women from seeing how important they are even when they are not doing the heavy duties, professional jobs, or occupying political offices.

The simple truth about feminism is that it was created by a group of women who had contradictory motives as to TRUE equality. The success of feminism was possible through convincing speeches and sentiments from other females that listened to the its proponents.

Don't let a movement created by a gang of radical and desperate white women make you believe you are not equal to a man until tag yourself a feminist or call out for equality. YOU ARE ALREADY EQUAL.

BeastOfNoNation:


I know men and women are equal. That is what I've been shouting since. My question was addressing why some men believe that isn't so. I'm not the person you should be telling this to. Talk to some of the guys above that believe women should be submissive slaves and are merely a support system for when men fall from their rise to the top.

all4naija:

Give it up! You aren't going to see the truth in what he wrote because you ignore it and here you are telling him, a well expressed writer, to talk to guys. That is very rude of you. This idea you carry about that you have the right to insult any man and cry foul when your are served your best medicine is unacceptable.

BeastOfNoNation:


Are your ribs not in between the leg and head??

BeastOfNoNation:

You know what You're Stu.pid. you're very stupid and ignorant and you don't know when to accept that you're wrong. I VERY CLEARLY ACCEPTED WHAT HE SAID AND SAID HE SHOULD ADDRESS THE GUYS WHO SPECIFICALLY THINK WOMEN ARE INFERIOR. DID I MENTION YOU?? IF YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE NOT ONE THEN SHUT UP AND GET OFF THE THREAD BECAUSE IT DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU. This thread is addressing misogynistic males. If you are not one then I'm not talking to you. I'm specifically asking why some guys don't believe in gender equality. I'm done talking to you. I easily easily easily agreed with him. I've been shouting gender equality since. The only person that is ignorant here is you because even when both of us are saying the same thin, you will disagree with me.

Don't tell me that I'm rude when you go around insulting people you don't know and telling them they will divorce while pregnant. I've been saying men and women are equal and anything a man can do a woman can do also. I have EASILY shown you that I believe in gender equality yet you STILL attack me. WHY When did I attack all males. Did I not say he should specifically address the guys who don't beloved in gender equality? I already believe in it so there's nothing new he's telling me that I don't already know. My issue is that you people don't seem to know what a Feminist means. @all4naija let's end this conversation because neither of us are going to agree on this issue. later you will say I'm crying after you've insulted me for no reason.

all4naija:


You have no argument there. You are fond of ranting like somebody who is under the influence. I can't believe you claim to be feminist and at the same time has this explosive insulting manner of a ghetto b i t c h! You know what I am taking about. No descent guy is going to put up with it or accept that from somebody who is demanding for equality with impudence. Please, stop be petulant because you aren't making sense in this your very post.

It is clear you hate to hear the right view on how wrong you are on your highly held ideology that is taking you to no where importance. The earlier you realize that the better for you to understand there is really some emptiness in you that needs to be filled with knowledge of the real world that you live in. You alone cannot fight this gender equality you preach about in the form of feminism while discriminating men by lying about how they address you here and how the society tries to hold you back from achieving your aim. This is 21st century and if you still believe everybody that disagrees with your feminine propensity to discriminate is your enemy then you can be my guest. I am not going to stand and continue to pat you in the back when you are going wrong - from the angle you address the issue from.

I can buy you a drink any day if you can really prove beyond refutable fact that feminism as an ideology doesn't discriminate men. I am not done with you yet because there is lot of things that needs to be inculcated into your thick skull. It is becoming unbearable to have a heated debate with you on the ground of equality.


You don't have to cry all the time, lady.

BeastOfNoNation:


Stay there with your blind hatred for feminists. Don't use sense. You even rant as much as I do. There's nothing you will tell me regarding feminists that I will accept. I've told you that in every ideology there are extremists. I am not an extremist I do not hate men and I don't go around insulting males because I have general respect for human beings. I've only insulted you because you were the first one to dish out insults (May I divorce during pregnancy. May you never see children). Lord knows I've never lost my cool the way I have here which doesn't even make sense because we're promoting the same thing! On a final note: I believe in gender equality therefore I am a feminist.

Oh, yeah! Here you go again with your randomness. When are you going to make sense for once? Jeez! I can't believe a smart lady as you can't make good use of her mental faculty to understand that feminism is completely out of line with gender equality when it goes beyond to discriminate men.

Please, you have been using that divorce-and-pregnancy point to make excuses for your inability to comprehend what I have been saying here. That is a big shame on you. I don't even see you posts as insults to me but more of disrespect to people when you keep denying the facts of this matter and at the same time telling people what to do.

I couldn't help laughing at 'may-you-never-have-children part' of your post. Indeed, the world population is more of a burden on resources and you expect me to procreate and increase the population. I think you need to be jailed for planning to increase the population and for planning to put more pressure on the environment. In this overpopulated earth you still see having kids as complimentary. Oh, my goodness! This lady is still living in the prehistoric time. This is actually one of the reasons why you are easily brainwashed by the ideology of feminism. Bwahaha...

There is nothing wrong in losing your cool here but you have to do it from a civilized angle. I see you as a primitive African woman who still can't wrap her head over modern irrefutable notion like gender equality, feel threatened due to inferior complex and quickly align yourself with feminists to feel good. I can see why you are not so happy after all. If you really want to support gender equality you must treat it as such - as something based on both genders(the male and female sex). You are only asking for something you know it is not going to go down well with your wrong ideology.

You can cry me a river and I am not going to pay attention to it. Not until you start acting as somebody who is equal to men and stop thinking you are superior I am not going to take you serious here nor would I treat you as my equal. Sorry to say that to you. But, I treat other ladies equal as I am but not a crying baby like you. Boohoo!

You can't believe in gender equality and at the same time be a feminist. It doesn't make sense.

all4naija:

Oh, yeah! Here you go again with your randomness. When are you going to make sense for once? Jeez! I can't believe a smart lady as you can't make good use of her mental faculty to understand that feminism is completely out of line with gender equality when it goes beyond to discriminate men.

Please, you have been using that divorce-and-pregnancy point to make excuses for your inability to comprehend what I have been saying here. That is a big shame on you. I don't even see you posts as insults to me but more of disrespect to people when you keep denying the facts of this matter and at the same time telling people what to do.

I couldn't help laughing at 'may-you-never-have-children part' of your post. Indeed, the world population is more of a burden on resources and you expect me to procreate and increase the population. I think you need to be jailed for planning to increase the population and for planning to put more pressure on the environment. In this overpopulated earth you still see having kids as complimentary. Oh, my goodness! This lady is still living in the prehistoric time. This is actually one of the reasons why you are easily brainwashed by the ideology of feminism. Bwahaha...

There is nothing wrong in losing your cool here but you have to do it from a civilized angle. I see you as a primitive African woman who still can't wrap her head over modern irrefutable notion like gender equality, feel threatened due to inferior complex and quickly align yourself with feminists to feel good. I can see why you are not so happy after all. If you really want to support gender equality you must treat it as such - as something based on both genders(the male and female sex). You are only asking for something you know it is not going to go down well with your wrong ideology.

You can cry me a river and I am not going to pay attention to it. Not until you start acting as somebody who is equal to men and stop thinking you are superior I am not going to take you serious here nor would I treat you as my equal. Sorry to say that to you. But, I treat other ladies equal as I am but not a crying baby like you. Boohoo!

You can't believe in gender equality and at the same time be a feminist. It doesn't make sense.

BeastOfNoNation:


So wanting to have kids should be a criminal offence now? the funny thing is that I made up my mind a long time ago that I would adopt children as well as have two of my own. Since having children is such a burden and a crime, go and tell your mother that she is a criminal for giving birth to you. You're so delusional. You don't even know me and you've determine that I'm a "Primitive African Woman who can't wrap her head around the notion of gender equality". How many times have I said that I represent the notion of gender equality? I don't understand how someone like you who is obviously well educated can't understand that feminism stands for gender equality and not female domination.

I feel you know you're wrong but you won't just admit it at this point. And by the way, I am a VERY naturally happy person. It's people like you who are so passionate and arrogant in your ignorance of what issues such as feminism are that anger me.

You're so godda.mm immature too. Are you seriously calling me a baby? Are you twelve?

Happy Nigerian Independence Day msschew

No, it is not! I never said it is either. You are the one making a mountain out of a molehill from having babies in overpopulated world. The fact that you don't have a single idea of the world population and the probable consequences on the earth survival makes me wonder if you even know what you are talking about. You want to mess up this earth further. Instead of you educating people on depopulation you are here planning to have 2 kids and adopt another from somebody you possibly encouraged to produce more. Jeez!

It's not a rocket science to understand the kind of person that you are from your posts. Aren't you an African woman? Please... Let's leave that trivial part of the argument alone and discuss on the issue of feminism at hand. Which has become like a religion to you and the food you eat. What more can I say when you gladly pride yourself for being a feminist?! Huh!

I don't see you as somebody 'naturally happy' because you don't have a descent boyfriend yet. So what are you now happy about more than the wrong ideology of feminism?

On the final note, you can't wish me a happy independence day with those frowns and msschew. That wish is hard to swallow, lady. You aren't equal until you learn to accept gender equality not feminism.

Thank you.

BeastOfNoNation:


So wanting to have kids should be a criminal offence now? the funny thing is that I made up my mind a long time ago that I would adopt children as well as have two of my own. Since having children is such a burden and a crime, go and tell your mother that she is a criminal for giving birth to you. You're so delusional. You don't even know me and you've determine that I'm a "Primitive African Woman who can't wrap her head around the notion of gender equality". How many times have I said that I represent the notion of gender equality? I don't understand how someone like you who is obviously well educated can't understand that feminism stands for gender equality and not female domination.

I feel you know you're wrong but you won't just admit it at this point. And by the way, I am a VERY naturally happy person. It's people like you who are so passionate and arrogant in your ignorance of what issues such as feminism are that anger me.

You're so godda.mm immature too. Are you seriously calling me a baby? Are you twelve?

Happy Nigerian Independence Day msschew

AfroKnight:
When a lady wants to reap where she did not sow and a guy resists her she calls him a misogynist, uncaring, stingy, etc. When a guy treats you like his equal by asking you to pay your share of the bill, you say he is not a gentleman that he should pick up the bill LIKE A MAN. When it's time to move heavy furniture or switch on the generator or fix a simple gadget in the office or at home, the women ask the men to do "their job". The weirdest is when two lovers are walking on the road and the woman expects the man to shield her from traffic with his body.

Women are the champions of gender-based roles yet they blame men for inequality. What do you women really want?

Yksoul:
FIRST,THE SOCIETAL AND CULTURAL SETTINGS CAUSED THE MEN TO THINK WOMEN ARE LESS TO THEM.SECONDLY,FAMILY BACKGROUND IS MAJORLY RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.HOW DO UR PARENTS BEHAVE TO THEMSELVES?DOES UR DAD ALWAYS IN CHARGE AND BLAMES WHEN NECESSARY?THAT'S WHAT AM TALKING ABOUT

BeastOfNoNation:
Hello Nairaland! This is my first post I've been on Nairaland for a long time but I've never real felt the need to post anything before but this topic was paining me and confusing me at the same time.

As a bonefide Naija babe (REPRESENT), I made up my mind that when I am ready to marry, I MUST marry a Nigerian guy or I would rather die single (nothing wrong with this sha). The only issue I'm encountering thus far is that the Nigerian guys I've met are very misogynistic I don't even understand why. Growing up I was told that as a child of God I could do ANYTHING but I suppose that Nigerian male ego trumps God's word

So this is a question to all the Alpha-Males out there! Why do you believe that women are less than you? I didn't grow up with this ideology at home and neither did my brothers so I would like some clarification!!

Please remember to be respectful in your answer pleeease! No insults because it's not necessary for healthy discussion. patiently waiting for answers!

amInigerian:

Well, first of all, I'm a Nigerian guy and growing up, my position was that if I was a girl, I would find it very difficult marrying a Nigerian guy. In fact, I felt it was very unlikely I would.
Is any human created for most of these gross man misdemeanours Nigerian style?
May good women find good men, wherever they are, Nigerian or no.