₦airaland Forum

sarrki:
.some commentators lack knowledge of politics in the north.

That's north for you ,

Did you see them attack Junaid ?

They will never support you once you are not core North

When I say come rain come sun they will support their own ,can you all see ?

All they want is 12years

Look at this one...u supported a northerner over an incumbent southerner and u are telling us nonsense.

If the north wants 16 yrs we shall gv it to them

omenkaLives:
Of course at a time like this when there's a sudden spike in the bloodletting, any leader, no matter how good, would likely get such results when a poll is conducted.

Both tempers and emotions are running very high and it is very unlikely a critical and holistic assessment of all indices would be done by individuals before responding to such polls.

It is likely if similar poll is conducted couple of months from now, after the anger over the "fulani" crisis seems to have subsided per dissipated, the results would be starkly different.

Omenka this was childish of u. A poll was conducted and Buhari lost. It is that simple

The number one thing on their mind would be Fulani and then herdsmen followed by killings.

Followed by bad roads, inflation, police and military brutality, boko haram killings, how hard getting a visa to any country has become, the fact the there is constant light in Ghana and cameroon, the fact that salaries are owed many workers, the fact that Buhari has been very insensitve to the plight of people, the fact that all corrupt people are free, Maina gate.... too many things will be on their minds omenka

Has Buhari committed any offense by being born a Fulani man? Do we choose our tribes from birth?

Fulanis are among the most loved tribes in Nigeria...because of their beauty and light skin. Igbos (ur worst enemies) generally take Yar'adua as Nigeria's best president since 1999. He is Fulani. Nobody is hating on Buhari for his tribe...he is hated for his mentality.

Buhari is a Fulani man, and it won't be difficult for those who try to gain political leverage from these tragic events to directly blame him for the killings. In fact, they have gone all out to say Buhari directly gave orders to those beasts to kill these people for political reasons.

Yes...even GEJ who wasnt even hausa (or Igbo for that matter) was directly blamed for starting boko haram as pay back for the civil war. So get with the programme

Then comes this question I wish someone could answer: Exactly what political capital would Buhari gain by wrecking havoc in the Middle Belt which happens to be APC stronghold!!?

It doesnt need to be partisan political capital. It can be an expansion of fulani territory and domain. History knows that the Fula tribe spread through out west and central Africa by invasion of other tribes (Ilorin kingdom and the hausa states being potent examples also jos). As at today, Bubu is the leader of that Fula tribe. (Like Dan Fodio was 230 years ago)

Benue, Kogi, Nasarawa, Niger, Plateau, are all APC states. Why would they want to sabotage their own chances of victory at the polls?

because he trusts that u all will be too foolish to realise what he is doing omenka

Bad as the events are, when we approach discussions about them dispassionately (a nearly impossible thing to do) a clearer picture would emerge.

I hope a clearer picture has started to emerge in your mind? Lol I guess not. After all are u not the chief Zone B cordinator?

Buhari is to blame because the buck stops at his table when it comes to securing the lives and properties of citizens of this country. In respect of this, we (including my humble self) can definitely blame him for these incidences,

As u should. You are right here for blaming him

but trying to put the blame on him because the alleged perpetrators are from the same tribe as him, as is currently the practice, is WRONG!

Nope most people are not blaming him for that. He responded swiftly to Niger Delta militancy, to IPOB ''rants'', but never to fulani killing. U get the point? Sure u still dont

b]This has been the bone of contention between myself and these PDP supporters who can't go a second without mentioning my moniker on the forum saying I'm supporting someone killing my people. Buhari isn't "killing my people" any more than Jonathan "killed" them. Both men failed in SECURING THEIR LIVES AS NIGERIANS.[/b]

I share ur sentiments here because i voted Buhari too in 2015. Check my older posts. But this is 2018 my guy.

Oh, by the way, Buhari hasn't told anyone he's re-contesting yet.

He has. Amechi is his re-election cordinator.

CrtlAltDel:
Cluelessly common-sensical!…… He pain Ben Bruce well well

the type of childish nonsense u post...

jerseyboy:
Tinubu is a spent force in Nigerian politics. Yorubas will not follow him in 2019.

they are coming for u

Shuku0kukobambi:
[s]There you go again with your double minded buffoonery. Why wait till 2023? why not 2019? shameless empty chest beating cowardly clown

You've been licking fulani and hausa nyansh since your ancestors leant to read. see the evidence again below penned by an 'intellectual' from your potor potor region https://www.nairaland.com/4257293/south-east-vs-south-west

Your lineage should be glad you're not leading their political charge even as dysfunctional as it is, you would have made it worse. You're Atikulating and sucking up to Buhari and APC at the same time despite all the deaths you reaped from the hate the albino hunchback pumped into you. How do you cope with your cognitive dissonance? or the aim is simply to play second fiddle to the almajiri you pretend to hate at all cost?[/s]

u are not intelligent.

Shuku0kukobambi:
[s]Suddenly you can queue behind an aboki after he mentions stats that comfort you. kwantinue




Unfortunately, Your elders have more phobia for Yoruba than your empty braggadocio tries to display here. Even your inconsequential self is not free from blaming Yoruba which is why you were so fired up when your elders started begging buhari to dump Osinbajo. Have you forgotten you even regaled me with tales of how you'll push Yoruba out of APC and parter with Buhari?

See an example of such self shaming threads where your elders heap all their life woes on the Yoruba https://www.nairaland.com/4272450/yorubas-seaport-monopoly-hand-tinapas




Youre a shameledss hypocrite. See the thread below, where another of your elders shamelessly exposed how you've been a very willing partner with the northern oligarchs in the ruining of the country since the start of time itself. You were the main partner in creating the status quo but unfortunately were too unwise and myopic to achieve anything for your potor potor region with it

https://www.nairaland.com/4257293/south-east-vs-south-west

Your tears and blood fool no one. You only started your sanctimonious posturing after GEJ lost the election and like you posted to me below in one of our first exchanges, i'm sure that, inspite of all, you'll partner with Ahmadu Bello today if he woke up from the dead just to get back into political reckoning



See how shamelessly you turned an APC and Buhari goon on that thread

https://www.nairaland.com/4176691/president-buhari-full-igbo-regalia




Is it the 400,000 votes from the entire Anambra that would have helped Buhari against OBJ in 2003? [/s]

childish silly rants. We are going to take APC Structure from u in 2023. Since it has gotten to licking fulani nyash, we go win una last last. Until the south comes together to realise our collective folly in 2015, all of us go die inside fulani anus. If Atiku doesnt win in 2019, all our govs go decamp to apc sharperly

The mother inlaw sef look like retired ashewo

Shuku0kukobambi:
Who buys them in the east? is it the same refugees that have started claiming indigenship of Ogun state too?

Ipob bureau of statistics no go kill person

R

Shuku0kukobambi:
Why are you writing plenty english instead of reverting to default mode?

Blame Afonja jare let us close the case

On your 1st gibberish, the stat comes from the interviewee himself....not from IPOB.

On your 2nd delusion, I dont know where an Igbo man has ever blamed any percieved injustice on the South East zone on Afonjas or yorubas. Yes we do blame the northern oligarchy on trying to stiffle development in the south east region since after the war. But on Afonjas? are u inconsequential lots thinking u are that important? Who dash una? The butterfly be thinking it is a bird The entire south are slaves to the north if u dont know. They might gv u guys specials laws for lagos (cos it also benefits them), they also gave us more states (the old eastern region has 9 states as against 6 for the old western region). They align with any of us at will and sideline the other.

Where Igbos blame Afonja is that u guys seem comfortable with the system. A system the neither benefits you guys or us. A system designed by Fulani military to Benefit hausa/fulani only. Igbos supported Obj for a 2nd term (even when Buhari has an Igbo running mate) because we believed that power must be in the south if we are to have a chance of correcting a system that took fulani 35 years to create. Imagine our surprise when tru providence, power fell back into the south but u guys chose to support the fulani against a southerner because of vp position. A clear opposite of what Igbos did in 2003.

Do u think obj would have been a two term president (rigging or not) if SE and Ss supported Buhari in 2003?

sarrki:
Old man you are in Africa

Nigeria for that matter

Wise up

That's how we roll here

keep nailing and discrediting urself with useless statements

Yyeske:
Since you are jobless you are at liberty to go through my older posts on other threads in my profile. Can't help you with that for now

lol. The insults. From a ''love filled'' person programmed to love all around him.

Bye.

Yyeske:
One thing you should know for sure is that I'm not into your herd mentality on nairaland, I say it the way I feel it must be done.
I've always been anti IPOB so don't bring Igbo into this.
I tackle any group that comes against the Igbos falsely but would support any anti IPOB group east, west, north or south and I neither owe you nor anybody any apologises for my beliefs.

show me example of this

NgeneUkwenu:
Has Nairaland "Likes" replaced Voters Cards In Biafra?

Deluded IPOB Yoots..

But u guys were conducting many online polls in 2015 to show that Buhari was ahead of gej

Now that Atiku is ahead of Bubu in every recent online poll, u want to change goal post.

I sha dey pity you. Na army remain last last for ur boss to take win election again in this country

Yyeske:
OP I will advise you to devote more of your time in something useful than trying to talk to these brainwashed miscreants whose heart had been programmed to continually hate everyone and everything around them. They are irredeemable and there's nothing you can do about them.

u know its funny....i checked the trending section of nairaland to see three anti Igbo topics there by yorubas
https://www.nairaland.com/4272806/igbo-marginalisation-victim-mentality

https://www.nairaland.com/4249890/another-one-ipob-bureau-statistics

https://www.nairaland.com/4272329/why-proscribed-ipob-yoots-rejoice

I didnt see u there to call yorubas hate filled people.
Compare this recent topics and many more like it with the very few number of Igbo topic bashing yorubas in recent times

We know the real hate filled people here.
There are more yorubas hiding under igbo monikers to insult igbos than vice verser....but u seem not to mind. Why?

donneco:
I dont mind voting a goat come 2019, provided the Daura President is swept out of Aso rock.

Yeah. I want to Atikulate in 2019...but if Atiku is not selected by pdp, i will still vote any pdp candidate...even a goat. Buhari must go

Click like to vote a goat

Yes the OP is right. There is something wrong in Aso Rock. This something however is not peculier to Aso Rock. Even when sit of power was in Lagos, this something was present. It simply carried over to Aso Rock.

Howelse can you explain that every good politician who enters there end up losing his mind or his life or his job.

Howelse can you explain that countries like Ghana, Kenya, Uganda and South Africa who were colonised also by u.k now have better govt, better cities and better development statistics than us- the so called giant of Africa

Nonsense analysis... the problem is simple...every region was blessed with something. Every region left their resources and got fixated on ND resources.

victorvezx:
What u want is not possible. It's not realistic. We went to war for it. Millions died. The truth is no country would like a break up. Even a whole America fought a four year civil war to prevent the confederate state from breaking away. America is still doing all it can to prevent their Spanish speaking territory of Puerto Rico from going, even when Puerto Rico has lots of grievances against America.

ok i understand why 'Nigeria' wont want the country to break .....but wat about YOU...why dont YOU want d country to break....seeing that ur people and my people dont get along

victorvezx:
Happy? What I want is total restructuring. Each state should control their resources and develop themselves to their taste. Just the the American Style. That is what I want. A restructured Nigeria is far more realistic than Biafra. If only the south south, south east, south west and middle belt realize the power we have, things would have changed. If we were United, with our large number, we would have challenged the challenger the north and make them see reasons why a restructured Nigeria is better. The keyword is Unity

ok that is what u want.... wat about wat we want? considering that the country was once restructured until 1967 that a certain middle beltan decided to create 12 mushroom states

Jesusloveyou:
is working!
Is only your hatred that is giving you hallucination,
Thinking is not working

since u can see we have hatred for the country, why dont u all let us go

victorvezx:
The regions have been abolished, it no longer exists, it has being fragmented into states. The old eastern region currently does not exist anymore. U cant use that instance to be clamoring for Biafra. The issue of Biafra is very different.

am sure u are happy the regions dont exist anymore

victorvezx:
According to Wikipedia, the northern region was an autonomous division within Nigeria. They had greater autonomy but was still under Nigeria. It's functioned more like a confederacy under Nigeria.

Eggzatly. And they had the right of self determination...so did the eastern region. What I can agree is that declaration of independence shouldnt be unilateral.. but follow laid down laws. But in the end it doesnt matter. One of Awolowo and gowon greatest achievement as far as hausa and yoruba are concerned was the abolishing of regions

wish a decent leader can go back to the 1963 constitution tho. Nigeria's only real Constitution.

victorvezx:
Constabulary can also mean police. U also did ur own selective reading too. Every region had a regional police, which is controlled by the military governor. The north had a regional police. If they had an army why did they not challenge the British or the Nigerian government? Also the title "commander in chief" was used because the regions and police is controlled by a military governor, not just ordinary governor. That is why an ordinary governor today has the title of "Chief Security Officer".

lol....this guy u just keep shooting urself in the foot. Go and list the governors of northern region from formation till 1967 and tell me who are military governors among them.

Lol now that we have an army why dont we challenge the british?

victorvezx:
Biafra only existed [s]as Ojukwu answer to massacred igbos in the north. It would not have existed if Ojukwu was not selfish. It was an illegal forceful creation of Ojukwu. U can never compare its foundation with those of South Sudan, Eritrea, Catalonia, Quebec etc.[/s]

ok so it existed. I can also come up with scenerios that can make the places u mentioned to not exist

victorvezx:
According to the dictionary, a constabulary is a Police force covering a particular region or city. They were only a police force not an Army. Each region had one because they were autonomous and they will be need of private police

selective reading. Constabulary can also mean a paramilitary...like the American national guard which is a constabulary.

No police force in this world needs a 'commander in chief' its a title reserved for the military.

Ps...no other region had a constabulary. The eastern region had a regional police

victorvezx:
It is not legitimate because the history u are inventing is a fraud. The real Biafra was the one that existed in 1967, when Ojukwu illegally declared the ol eastern region which was under the control of Nigeria as Biafra. He formed it only in response to the massacred igbos in the north. If there was no igbo massacre, there would have being no Biafra, just eastern region. Biafra has no history except claiming the history and territory of eastern region which was under Nigeria since in the beginning

so biafra existed at all? Good.

victorvezx:
Guy u are a liar. There was no northern army. Where is ur evidence?

The government of Northern Nigeria was modelled after the Westminster system. A premier acts as head of government and presides over the day-to-day affairs of government while a Governor acts as Head of state and Commander-in-Chief of the constabulary. The lower house of parliament called the House of Assembly is composed of elected representatives from the various provinces of the country. The Upper House of parliament called the House of Chefs is similar to the British house of Lords. it is composed of unelected Emirs of the various Native Authority Councils of the nation's provinces.


The constabulary was an armed force

victorvezx:
U can't compare the old Eastern region with Biafra. The old eastern region was ever Biafra. It was part and parcel of Nigeria until Ojukwu illegally called it Biafra. Also The old eastern region does not exists any more, even Biafra does not exist. Biafra only came about only as Ojukwu answer to massacred igbos in the north. That is why the call for Biafra will never be legitimate, no matter how u try to compare it with other countries

i believe also that this same thing u said now is wat spanish people who dont want an independent catalonia are also saying.

Come on... the cries to end slavery didnt seem legitimate to most whites.

The calls to create a palestinian state doesnt seem legitimate to most jews.

The call to end north korean nuclear program dont seem legitimate to most koreans.

The call to recognise the old eastern region as Biafra and to grant it independence can never seem legitimate to u....fair enough. I wonder why tho...cos legitimate or not, if west or north wants to leave Nigeria most easterners will support it

Sanchez01:
Did you just tell a lie as huge as the emboldened on a public forum

If u tell me the lie they i will be glad. The northern region maintain an army till 1967...tell me who maintains an army if not a country. Google it and come back and apologise

victorvezx:
The bolded is a lie. They were never countries but autonomous regions created by the British to administer Nigeria. Southern Cameroon was a British colony administered by the British from Nigeria but not joined to the British territory of Nigeria. They only joined the eastern assembly and later left due them being unhappy with the domineering attitude of Nigerian politicians and lack of unity among the ethnic groups. At a conference in London from 30 July to 22 August 1953, the Southern Cameroons delegation asked for a separate region of its own. The British agreed, and Southern Cameroons became an autonomous region with its capital still at Buea. This means the eastern region never granted them self determination. They were already an autonomous region different from the eastern region. They were granted self determination by the British, not by the eastern region.

they got independence in 1961.... britian left nigeria in 1960

victorvezx:
But u were making it out to be as if the eastern region was ones an independent region or country without direct affiliation to Nigeria. Although they once had right to self determination, the region no longer exists any more

someone finally gets it. The region however exists in the minds of many people...hence the perenial call for Biafran independent