Ibime: So the Charlie Kirk shooter was a 3rd year electricians apprentice who dropped out of Uni after one semester?
I respect Charlie for hitting the streets in every country to debate his points even though I disagree with many of them
I watched his debates at Oxford uni and you could see him exercising great patience (at his age) against many idealistic teens and early twenties a lot of whom are also confused and parroting talking points that come from youthful idealism but not realism.
Las Las he was felled by an electricians apprentice for making himself available to college students for debate
May God protect our children through their teens and early twenties to not fall into radical and terroristic thoughts which many easily succumb to at that age.
You will be shocked by the amount of professors in those uni who holds radical views like what you see from the left. Silence speech they don't like even by death.
Ibime: Their fellow teenagers will be clapping and thinking they are winning the debate
I was at a dinner party recently with my guy and his 18 year old daughter where she expressed that she hates Keir Starmer, I'm like how, she said "he is dividing the left". Basically any pragmatism in leadership to that age group is seen as a mortal sin. Keir Starmer sin to them is not giving into unions, the anti-Jooish lobby or not allowing the radical Corbynites take over the Labour Party and start demanding freebies everywhere. Thank God he even got his deputy Angela Rayner to resign, one fewl-ish lady without a single GCSE to her name always shouting for Government to take care of everyone. How can I be led by someone that didn't pass secondary school exam, who is basically a welfare hustler. Their whole political career is about shouting the loudest to their Constituents that Govt should be taking care of them from cradle to grave, meanwhile nothing dey her brain and she is a failure in life outside rabble rousing to the electorate.
You still need to admit what you think about antifa is wrong.
It's okay to be wrong. Those people will stand at the side of Hitler as he kills joos and anyone with capitalists ideology.
Antifa is a European group of organisations which was formed to fight against Musolini and later Hitler and was backed by the Allies, most notably the Partisans who operated behind enemy lines in WW2.
Think before you speak. Is senator Rand Paul, Ben Shapiro etc. Mussolini it Hitler? How do you stay and think that people who would kill you for saying abortion is bad or people should not be chemically castrating children to push lgbt ideology are not Hitler themselves?
Ibime: I don't know anything about your American Antifa till Trump started mentioning them in 2020 but I know on this side of the pond, I am at no harm walking past a group of Antifa. I don't support them, I just know they won't harm me, simple.
You don't know but anyone with sense would have done their due diligence, look them up and what they are about. Antifa almost assassinated Ben Shapiro, louder with crowder who was doing what Charlie kirk was doing long before Charlie picked up that idea tipped Ben Shapiro, they infiltrated antifa group. And police made arrest that day.
Steven Crowder had to stop because they were also gonna kill him.
Antifa started beating up right wing commentators who go to universities to give speeches all the way back in 2015. You heard about Trump mentioning them in 2020 > went ahead to say they are the savior of America.
Ibime: Secondly, Antifa has no organised structure so I don't what are you talking about Tyler Robinson. Anyone can identify with their views, they have no membership. Same way Dylan Roof can subscribe to any of your right wing groups. But if American Antifa is pro-Hamas, then as usual everything dey get k-leg when e reach America. My hand no dey. The Antifa I know is the partisans in Europe that fought behind Nazi lines.
They congregate, they communicate, that's all the structure they need. We here about lone wolf too. People waging Jihad, no structure, no organization, but the ideology is there.
Ibime answer those questions. Use this for guidance
Stated Purpose and Ideology
Promoting "Western Values": McInnes created the Proud Boys to champion what he called "Western values" (e.g., individualism, capitalism, and traditional masculinity) against perceived threats from progressive ideologies, multiculturalism, and feminism. The group’s manifesto emphasizes pride in Western culture, often framed as superior, and opposition to leftist movements like antifa.
Fraternal Bonding and Humor: Initially presented as a tongue-in-cheek men’s club, the Proud Boys combined drinking, crude humor (e.g., their name comes from a Disney song), and rituals like reciting cereal names or getting tattoos to foster camaraderie. McInnes pitched it as a response to what he saw as the emasculation of men in modern society.
Countering Leftist Activism: The group was formed partly to confront progressive and anarchist groups (e.g., antifa) at protests. McInnes and early members viewed themselves as defenders of free speech and conservative values against "social justice warriors" and political correctness.
This is the part you are supposed to say I am wrong about antifa.
But answer this.
1: Tell us about anytime the proud boys killed anyone
2: Tell us anytime they attacked anyone aside from antifa.
3: Tell us anytime they attacked any democrat
4: Tell us when they burn down an entire block including a police station.
The Proud Boys were formed in 2016 by Gavin McInnes, a Canadian far-right commentator and co-founder of Vice Media, as a self-described "Western chauvinist" fraternal organization. The group emerged during a period of heightened cultural and political polarization in the United States, particularly around the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Below is a concise explanation of why the Proud Boys were founded, based on their stated goals, McInnes’s public statements, and the broader context.
This is when antifa were harassing right wing speakers and beating up trump supporters.
They were formed to counter antifa
Antifa attacked senators and their families. So their leader took pictures with one senator, and a bunch of people on the right. Yeah, a group like that is never a danger, yet Biden left antifa and labelled them terrorists group while it was antifa burning an entire street, attacking government buildings and police station.
Ibime: For the avoidance of doubt, Antifa is not recognised by the Democratic party, retweeted by their politicians, or invited to any Democratic convention, nor are they celebrities, influencers or commentators within the Democratic party. You cannot actually name a member of Antifa
Unlike Proud Boys who are mainstreamed within the Republican party, turning up to their conventions, invited to the White House etc
Extremists always like to tag their opponents with extremism
Ibime: Antifa is simply Antifascists. If there are no fascists, there won't be antifa.
The diaper wearing President that was always dogwhistling Antifa like an irresponsible guttermouth, was a Fascist and always concerned about Antifa coming out to oppose his Fascist groups like Proud boys etc. I have never seen such blatant racism and fascism from a POTUS before. A real POTUS won't even throw gasoline on that fire because he has no dog in a fight between fascists and Antifascists; and if he has a dog, it won't be the fascists.
Ibime: Will you shut up. Antifa raised their head in the USA in reaction to all the fascist groups that line behind Trump. Who cares where Proud boys fit in the timeline, many Fascist groups have been lining up behind the Chief Klansman Trump before Proud boys. When you practice extremist politics, expect extremist opposition. A President of the USA is supposed to play the middle ground and not incite extremism on either side. That's why he was the most divisive President in USA history and has the worst approval rating ever.
Rifle cartridges from the Charlie Kirk assassination are confirmed marked with Antifa phrases, including lyrics from the Antifa song, “Bella Ciao.” In 2019, Antifa gunman Willem van Spronsen also ended his ICE attack manifesto with the same song.
Only an insane human being would think the way Trump thinks and say the things he says..
Trump threatens citizens of his own country with denaturilization.
Who does that? Just simply because the person disagrees with him.
Trump is not calling for people to be shot. He owns his mouth, he can say what he likes because he believes in freedom. It is people who will try to kill him are the insane people. The very Hitler they accuse him of.
Can you insult xi or Putin? The media, and people insult him everyday and nothing is happening to them.
So, I have to shake my head for the goal post shifting you are doing.
bayelsaowei: like wanting to deporting people who disagreed with him?
Abusing opposition via tweets and denigrating hard working americans by calling them lunatics and radical left? You check am na..
Trump forgets that no matter what he does ,he is the president of everybody. And what he must do, is bring everybody together irrespective of political views..
bayelsaowei: why would anyone want to shoot Obama. Did he abuse and denigrate citizens who pay taxes (even conservative or republicans)? Did Obama ever insult women in the republican party or folks who didn't agree with him..
Trump stokes hate for a living..and as a leader you don't do that..you unite your people..Trump is incapable of doing that..
COOL10: I was about posting these same pictures. This is beyond mental disturbance. They're demons from the pits of hell celebrating the death of one of Jesus' soldiers on Earth, yet they think their own lives will end well. I laugh at their arrogant stupidity 😆🤣.
The lunatic leftists commit and justify all sorts of evil, demonic behavior, yet they wonder why more and more Americans continue to abandon the Democratic party on a daily basis.
If prior to yesterday, they was any chance of the DEMONcrats reclaiming power after Trump's tenure, that chance evaporated into nothingness the very moment that assassin pulled the trigger. They should get ready to continue crying, wailing and gnashing their teeth in the backseat of American politics for at least the next 12 years. 🤣.
They are seeing the success he has nothing kids away from the Democrats. Promotes family values and all that.
Ibime: Cos I can read all the comments under his posts and see who he is farming
The only credit I can give him is he used data to drive his agenda. Disingenuous but data driven which is acceptable enough in the world of political debate, unlike Tucker and co who don't respect their audiences' intelligence. I will rate him equivalent to a Ben Shapiro in that aspect, small data dey in what they are arguing.
Twitter is an open space. Anyone can comment on his post there.
Ibime: I done talk my own. I only give him props for taking his debates to the street fearlessly and not hiding in studio making up obvious lice like Tucker Carlson, at least he put small data behind his agenda, but it's still agenda.
How do you know the people who follow him hate blacks?
Because he can't control who follows him or go to his shows. He is risking his life engaging with people who hates him and wants to kill him.
Ibime: Most of the people he was inspiring from what I'm seeing on Twitter are people that hate black people
I reviewed his Twitter yesterday and saw that he was just an opportunist. For example the killing of the Ukrainian woman on the train he was constantly farming to frame black people as criminals with racist agenda against Whites when I could see on first sight that the unfortunate Ukrainian girl was killed by a man with mental health issues. It was very easy to inject that truthful observation in the matter but he chose to race bait.
Same guy who wanted Russia to overrun Ukraine and doesn't care about Ukrainian safety at home suddenly became white knight for the Ukrainian girl
Like I said I take my political stand on Security and Finances alone. Same reason I hate terrorists and same reason I even support immigration clampdowns, and Kirk falls in the category of those who dogwhistle against my security as a black man.
Your opinion is off.
He is a national hero.
The thousands of kids who listen to him or go to watch him speak hates black people. You know them personally. Weldon.
Ibime: Their only comparison is the manner of their death
You for kukuma add Gandhi join
They were killed because of their voice, they were killed because of they were very inspirational, and influential.
Trump got a lot of the young voters last election and it is this guy. He continues to give young people courage to stand being cancelled. So they have to kill him