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It may work if their opponents are doing the same.

joshboo:
Worked last season...

Boston ain't getting away with this nonsense this season, Zero plays, just spam 3s all game long.

@ greypencils, did you touch a live wire or sth? Do you need a second shock to reboot?


Your boy Iverson is so efficient that Curry at the 3 is just as efficient. Do you even know what this means?

No need for explanation. Anybody wey get strong heart make dem continue to craze on top this team. I will not become hypertensive because of one team. At least they are racking up wins this season, which I think they could have done last season. Many of their games were close. Na so so so up and down. Me just dey wait for playoffs.

And abeg leave Skrrrrrrr, make him continue to hype this team. Na so him dey do every year. Him heart strong well well. You need those kind people for your corner.

greypencils:
I ain't thinking too far. The west is stacked and anything can happen. Injuries do alter playoff results. It's all about the playoffs Bro. Skrrrr would never understand how broken I was when GSW lost the 2019 finals. I didn't feel pain when they lost in 2016, I wasn't sold on them yet. KD joining them was what took me over the edge. I have been a KD fan since forever. The 2018-19 GSW team was EPIC; Curry, Klay, KD, Green, Cousins. Which team on earth could stop them? I was over the moon. THEN THEY LOST. I was broken, snapping at friends and being moody for more than a month after they lost. That's too much emotional investment. I have since toned down my emotions. I take these games as they come.

Talking about Toronto, I have never seen any team get their karma real quick. Masai set them up for a championship, 5 years down the line, there is no atom of value in that team. Lowry, Kawhi, Siakam, Gasol, Green, Ibaka, Powell, Anunobi, Van Vleet, all gone. Worse, no one with potential. Cavs was disbanded after 18, they are back on top ready to compete. OKC was stripped of KD & Russ, now they are back on top. Heat is still on project Butler, San Antonio is on project Wemby. Toronto is on what project, Scottie Barnes?

Sorry for the late reply. If your definition of tribalism in this context is related to "a tendency to lean towards one player or another based on their tribe in Nigeria" then I would say I don't remember any of your opinions that fit this description. Of course, there's the long-standing sentiment that you lean toward English-born players. This sentiment is fair though, as there's history to back it up. It is also not an unreasonable bias on your part if you currently reside in the UK or have done so. I mean anyone would be more aware of their immediate environment. There are other reasons I think you have been doing this though.

However, I maintain that tribalism is not a bad thing, and shouldn't be painted as such, but I get the irony it creates in the Nigerian context.

komekn:
In the discourse of TRIBALISM I was wondering where people like you will see 🙈 me ❓

Sheer curiosity what box📮 will you put me in ❓

TRIBALISM has become an issue both here and in the general scheme of things .

No be you and your fellow Bronzites cause am?

birdman:
so you mean, if we no discuss Lebron, na so this forum go dry up. Is it not time for the guy to retire bayi

Why, are you looking to be awarded the most detribalized? . I didn't think you cared.

komekn:
Wonder 🤔 where that leaves me ❓

Sorry, but no statement is more wrong. If you cannot do much of what you are getting, it's within reason to believe you wouldn't be any different with 100%. If they can break away the same leaders would still be leading. You made some factual statements, but your conclusions are at best interesting, and not necessarily well thought out. Delta has to share its resources with other parasitic states. That's correct. But an important question would be do you get anything in the meantime, relative to those parasites? What have you done with what you have retained/received via allocation? This is not to say that the Delta region should be denied the entirety of the revenue from oil, No. You cannot take most of what's mine because you think I can't manage the portion I am getting—such arrogance. I support the idea that every region should be allowed to manage its resources. But arguing that Akwa Ibom is not as developed as Qatar for example because it's not getting all the revenue from its oil is what's a problem, based on evidence.

Are white institutions working against us? Absolutely. The world's market economy is such that, one country's continuous search for economic prosperity is ruining the economic prosperity of another. You don't even have to want to ruin another country. As long as you pursue economic prosperity another country would be diminishing in the direction of ruin.(Note, the use of direction, not that you are at the point of ruin). The activities of economic prosperity would force that imbalance. It is you who has to decide that, hell no, any other country but me can carry that burden.

Were some African leaders with a passion for uplifting their respective countries Murdered? O yes. But what makes you think that's unique to us? Other countries that are currently at least fairly prosperous must have had that too. Do you think, during the Chinese opium crisis, and in the lead-up to the wars, some Chinese leaders looking to quash the opium problem were not murdered? Despite this, they kept at it. And once the opportunity for quantum economic jumps opened- for example, the US moving their manufacturing to China- they took it. Given the heavily capitalistic nature of the American economy, the US manufacturing industries were looking to extract more profit from the sale of their products. These pockets of opportunities open up and the question is can you see it? China for example is now exploring as others once did to them. They are in the driver's seat now. Are our African countries trying to exploit the opportunities opening up?

The point is whatever harsh realities we believe we are being dealt, others have been dealt the same, and some of them eventually prospered.

codemaniacs:
U:S:A moved its entire manufacturing to China and some Asian in the 80s and 90s and this made China and these other countries to have access to information, know-how and knowledge-transfer on how this U:S products worked and they started making their own versions of the U:S products... and the U:S also gave them billions of dollars in loans and grants to upgrade themselves...

Arab countries have large deposits of Crude oil, Gas reserves and have small population and are stand alone countries which Nigeria is not...

In Nigeria, Akwa-ibom has the largest oil reserves and a small population but it is not a stand alone country which means it never gets the full revenue it is meant to get and shares it with 30 - 36 other states who are parasites..

if Akwa-ibom, Delta, Bayelsa and Rivers were stand alone countries they would be the richest countries in Africa with state of the art infrastructure..

it's like the best student in your class sitting beside you during normal classes, tests and exams and saying his presence had nothing to do with your improved performance or the worst student in your class sitting beside you and saying his presence did not cause your bad performance.

African presidents or Black American leaders who really and honestly had the passion and motivation to uplift their countries were assassinated or imprisoned by White controlled institutions and you're saying nonsense about no faith in yourself because whyte institutions are working against you..

Sh:ell and some other whyte owned companies polluted the rivers in Bayelsa and Sh:ell did nothing about it..

you're not experienced or still under the age of 22 with such kind of thinking that another person or group cannot stop or delay the upliftment of another group.....

you're talking as if a fraudster or hacker cannot wipe out someone's life savings in their bank account without the person knowing, you will blame the person for been a victim of a crime...

Sorry, but this is quite naive a statement to make. "Men without no bias". Is there any such man? You can say, oh of the group we have here who has the least bias? and you may even have to state the biases that are relevant to such a selection. For example, are you strictly referring to opinions on player selection? as in which players are worthy of selection? Are you also including their opinions on Nigerian politics at large? How would you even be able to properly judge these? What are the parameters, and what are the weights? I mean, if I am Yoruba and I don't support Nwakali for example, there's no way to be sure that my lack of support for his invitation is not in part due to my ethnicity as a Yoruba. I could even point out all his flaws as a player and that doesn't still remove me from ethnic bias. And if you even say you, oh this so so person is the most detribalized, at least as far as we know here, on what basis are you making such judgements? Are you sure you are properly judging their actions?

Marjoribanks:
But did you not see the part where I commend you for good behavior? Is that a false impression too?
I am holding you accountable on political grounds! Except I do not understand what Lelion meant by detribalized Nigerian! The award is deserving of men without no bias!

Thank you!

Tinubu must do all this? Your state governors only need to collect allocations, do as they please, and wait for the next election cycle?

Tap0lane:
Tinubu still need to do a lot more to make his administration a success.

He must increase Nigeria electricity generating capacity to 10,000 minimum in his first 4 years.

Ensure herdsmen are cut to size with no room for killing in the middlebelt under guise of whatever name it can be called.

Exchange rate should come down to atleast ₦1000 if he can't return it back to the ₦700 he met it. Personally both Edu n Cardoso should be sacked cos they have not shown any attribute they can handle the ministry they were saddled with.

He should end oil thief n ensure the entire management both senior n junior staff of the NNPC is sacked if the refinery does not start producing refined product this August which they claim will start after several shifts with billions of dollars n not naira down the drain.

Large scale farming should be embraced n invested on vigorously like it a number one priority to ensure food security.

We don't need to show off against Sudan and Puerto Rico. Not important. As someone rightly said my guy doesn't carry this team through those two games your guy comes up short and ends up with a Bronze.

steady986:
That's why consistency is key You can't be shite for 4 games and then show up in the last two and expect to win MVP.

Interesting point. Curry has been at the receiving end of this many a time.

Skrrrrrrr:
We can decide if the MVP should be given to the highest scoring player or to the most consistent player spread across the game.
As far as I know, it is usually giving to the highest scoring player, that was how Durant won it in 2018, even though steph was better in 3 of 4 games. The needle always shifts when it's steph.
And honestly, no hate on Lebron but I can't point to anything exceptional he did. He was reliable but not outstanding. Steph was outstanding in those two games, which is coincidentally their toughest games. Those games came within one possession.
The other games, the opponents were cake and they basically walked over them...

My answers to those are as good as yours. Fair point.

But wait ooo, what's the motivation behind Bronze?

A40:
Honestly and anyone wey wan call am hate na him sabi cos I could give a fxckless, y'all already know, the MVP should have gone to Jokic. Jokic was more critical to his team and did more in crucial stages

I put more stock in what Steph did these two games as well. Think about it. Does the United States win those group games and the game without LeBronze? Yes. Do they win gold and beat Serbia and France without Steph? No.

We all get it LeBronze is the defacto leader and was going to win just off the way the team was setup but make no mistake about it racking stats vs South Sudan, Puerto Rico and Brazil? That's the difference maker?

I reserve my comments

Did you just compare Curry to Buddy Hield? You better go and join your fellows who think Lebron getting posterized was AI-generated.

steady986:
Lol, that's exactly how you guard a shooter who's hot. Whether it's Curry or Buddy Hield.

And in the history of the game, no one has been guarded as brutally as LeBron has. I don't need to show you clips.

As usual, always resorting to gaslighting us. Even for those wey dey Nigeria, people no dey make millions for there? Nonsense.

birdman:
Congrats to Team USA for proving themselves as Dream Team 2. I am proud of the grit these guys showed, and I can tell some lifelong brotherhoods have formed.

And yall arguing over MVP and stats, you need something better to do with your time on earth. Please dont emulate Skip, guy man's career on on the wane. At least he has a nest egg - you too spend your time on useful things. Curry, Durant and Lebron will be business buddies 20 years from now, their kids kids will be forming business mogul. Dont be caught speculating on how you will spend your social security stipend at 55. For those of you in naija, you are on your own anyways

Congrats to the womens team as well, but there is some animus where you would expect women to band together and lift each other up.

You know say me na Curry fan, but whether na stat padding or not, Lebron rightly deserved the MVP. As @A40 said some people have mastered the art of hacking the game at one time or the other as far as stats go. Lebron is one of those. Let's be honest Stephen Curry was very silent offensively during the group stage. By silent I mean he was very low on scoring, but of course, we can say that if you watch the game you would see he was doing some intangibles offensively, and as it's a star-studded team he wouldn't want to force the scoring until it's necessary.
Curry's performance in the last two was great but not enough. If had gotten at least two other 15+ points games in the group stage and Quarters, maybe this would be a different conversation. It was Lebron's to lose.

Skrrrrrrr:
Exactly I was awaiting your insight...
Absolutely no one would look at this Olympics and say, this is LeBron Olympics. Lebron does not even have any trademark performance in the games. Steph should have been MVP.

@Birdman, come closer. Isn't it wonderful that a team full of NBA all-time greats almost got cooked by a team full of players mostly playing in Europe? . You know me, I go take troll you. You and your caucus conveniently ignored it. This is a star-studded team, no need to blow up every game. The offensive load can go around. And did he not blow up when it mattered most? . I thought KD is the only one that can shine in such teams. Curry was just marinating for the masterpiece. Now Almighty KD can put in 25 points for the gold.

You are on your own on this one.

Killrhymz01:
my alma mater "unilag" fit beat dat harvard

I would like to think Football started somewhere too, England I believe, and that country/region was at the center of it. Where's it today? I thought the NBA was working hard at globalizing the sport. How do you determine the center radius is not spreading if you don't compete against others? How do you test how others are doing? Just an eye test? Why do you like giving these unfair examples? Unilag and Stanford? Perhaps you are citing this cos those are the places you lived in, but don't you think an example of a University basketball team in Europe would be a comparable example? The distance between Unilag and Stanford is too far apart to reconcile. You are making it seem as if this is strictly Nigeria vs USA.

Again, Football started in England, but now, even in the regional tournament, we know the title of "European champion" has rotated between different teams from different leagues over different periods. Football evolved in tournament organization to the point where multiple leagues dominate. This is what we are talking about.

and @Birdman, what am I supposed to do with your last comment? How has the fact that the sport allows black kids to at least cross socio-economic barriers related to the "World champions" argument? Does that not apply to most sporting activities?

And abeg no emotionally blackmail us. "Pedantic nonsense" indeed.

birdman:
Basketball was invented in the USA, and is dominant only in the USA. The US is the center of the basketball universe, and until that changes, this is where the best of the best come. Do we need a competition between unilag and stanford to determine who is world class? Or do we just look at the results and understand we can say stanford and caltech and harvard are world class without needing a head to head competition against uniben or unical or whatever.

NBA champs are world champs because the league is head and shoulders above any other league. The smart thing about yankee is they eventually allowed blacks to participate in these sports, so you have a combo of wealth, organization and raw skill. Had Durant grown up in Nigeria or Congo, guy man for be suya vendor by now. But yankee has afforded such rare talents opportunity.

No need for pedantic nonsense, yall stop trying to form intellectual on simple matters.

You are correct, we can always question the use of the word "World champions" in different sports. We can always find reasons not to give a champion a world status. I am not sure I agree with your use of "Which tournament did they fight in to decide that?". The organization of tournaments is a means to rank the participants, and different sports have different ways of achieving that. As far as I know, all boxing organizations have ratings/rankings of professional boxers, and on average, even though marketability is very important, these rankings determine the matches, apart from cross-organization title fights. So, indeed even though you and I will be crushed by Usyk, and we don't need an actual fight to determine that, neither you nor I is rated, at least I know I am not. Here, there's a way to get to fight for Word champion, i.e get highly ranked. It's not perfect, but the chance of someone outside the top 5 in any organization beating the current World champion is low, not to talk of an unranked person. It's imperfect but ok. They even specify the organization. As in "WBC world champion".

This is an individual sport though, let's go to a team sport that may be comparable. Most countries have football leagues and yet you and I are mostly sure that the winner of the European Champions League wins most of the time. The club World Cup shows that. The European champion has lost only 20% of the time. Yet they call themselves European champions and not World champions until they win the Club World Cup.

Maybe I am just overestimating the popularity of the NBA. I hope this noise gets these folks to organize the World Basketball League. , so that title can make more sense. For countries, the FIBA World Cup makes sense, just as the FIFA World Cup makes sense for football.

I just checked and it seems BlewMahn mentioned some of this stuff.

A40:
It’s pure pedantry and if we break it down to a lot of sports we can question the title of world champions everytime. Ali, Tyson, Usyk, Lennox are all regarded as World Heavyweight champions. Which tournament did they fight in to decide that.

Usain Bolt knew to not say stupid shit like that for one and Usain actually has charisma, everything with Noah just seems forced, even the rant


Basketball competitive architecture is unlike any other. I don't know why all of you keep glossing over this little fact.

The pinnacle of Basketball competition is the NBA, not no damn FIBA. Nobody considers MJ the GOAT cos of what he did in FIBA, even the other pretender is not considered in the argument cos of FIBA

Like I said. It's all semantics. Everyone is free to their opinion. But I believe that the undisputed best league in the world that is open to players of all nationalities is within it's right to call the winners their world champions

If you think they have to beat semi professionals from Bulgaria, Somalia, Oman,Tonga and Venezuela to prove it. I disagree. It's not an on paper matter. Alex Poatan Pereira or Jon Jones will beat us both to a pulp. We don't need to enter cage to determine this

Same way Usyk does not need to beat a fighter from Guatemala to be the Undisputed World Heavyweight champion. Based on how these sports work it's just assumed that they are the best.

Abeg no dey do this. Was Lyles technically correct? Oh yes. Was it pedantry? Very likely. Well, he got all the attention, didn't he? Yes. They all have to get out from under Usain Bolt's shadow.

Could you call the FIBA World Cup winner world champions? Yes. If you can call any team world champions, the winner of the FIBA World Cup should at least be in that category. Also, your FIBA example is alright until you ask the question; How many of the All-star 5 were from the team that won the NBA championship?

The NBA calling themselves world champions without competing is superfluous in the first place. (Even though on paper they would very likely beat any team in any other league in the world). If the almighty NBA can do that, I am certainly allowed to be excessive and overly technical too. You love attention, I certainly love it too.

As Birdman talk, it's not ok to do that to your folks though. Leave that to athletes/Players from other countries.

I am glad he won though.

A40:
But the Gold medal is not a World championship is it?

If Team USA wins Olympic gold (which they will, can we call them world champions?)

Lol Noah Lyles was just playing oversabi Captain Pedantic and trying to go viral. Which failed by the way cos people still don't know who the nigga really is

Why not focus on actually being a showman and likable like a Usain Bolt.

Basketball competitive architecture is very different from almost every other sport. The talent pools are disproportionately skewed to one league. Saying NBA teams have to compete with teams from Venezuela, Latvia or Djibouti to prove themselves is goofy. When any half decent player from these countries will do blood rituals just to make it to the NBA

Look at even the FIBA and the Olympics, Canada and Germany are the only teams that have a puncher's chance and these teams have no fewer than 4 NBA players as their best players on the squad

The FIBA MVP was an NBA player. Their allstar 5 were all NBA players

So his entire argument is that of pedantry not common sense.

Let's take it even further to a sport like Boxing. Why is Usyk the Undisputed Heavyweight champ? He only beat AJ, Dubois and Fury over a 2 year period. Is that all it takes? 3 boxers from one country?

What if I told you there's some unknown Maori or Cuban Boxer or a warrior from the Ahi Ahi tribe that KOs Oleksandr Usyk with just one punch. You can't disprove it can you?

Surprised to hear Team USA were that thin skinned to hate watch him tbh. I wouldn't care enough to feel anyway about it

Calm down, Oga. I am surprised you think giving everyone the free rein wouldn't cause problems. The scoring load may just rotate away from those 2. I believe they have a game today, so we will see. That's how star-studded this team is. If you try to lock anyone up, other players would go off.

But i agree with you, certain guys have to be the focal point to thrive.

A40:
Yes but other players are also on the loaded team and can't do what he does. It's not like you can load up on Durant and leave the others open

The truth is certain guys need to be the focal point of teams to thrive. While others don't. You can see how useless Embiid looks, even Tatum and Steph don't look themselves

Good point, you are learning. Unfortunately his father is not an all-time great NBA current /former NBA player who thinks he's better than NBA players, and so should be drafted

steady986:
You know the haters are beginning to run out of ideas when they start scrutinizing a 55th pick's Summer league performance. When guys who were picked far ahead of Bronny are busy stinking up the joint.

As u mentioned in your previous posts, the best way to shut people up and show you deserve this is to play well. They now remember that he was the 55th pick, and so he's playing to his pick number, but they don't remember his father and coach in part sent him to the slaughterhouse. He better keep playing and improving, and later replicate it in the NBA, where there are a bunch of people he's supposedly better than, otherwise we will come for him again.

A40:
Seems our Nepo baby is showing signs of life.

The scrutiny is never going to stop. When you tell us your boy is better than guys in League pass. When the puppet coach says he wasn't given the spot on the roster. And the team signs a 55th pick to 4 year guaranteed deal. You better show and prove. Nobody critiqued Shareef O'Neal or Scottie Pippen Jr cos they earned or at least tried to earn their spot

Criticism is the cost of praise

What's wrong with you? After i wasted my time to tell you where this started you still come up with this?

Khanben:
I am am a sports fan, I don't give a damn about LeBron, the idea that a 55th pick in a nba draft that every analyst swore up and down was trash, all of a sudden is a big deal is my issue. Nepotism didn't start and will not end with LeBron, the Lakers have an owner who got the gig because of it, a GM who got his gig because he was Kobe's pal.
My point is Bronny got drafted because of Nepotism, but if you want to claim his stats were a reason he should never have been drafted then that is BS, because examples abound of guys especially in the one and done era who got drafted with bad stats in college, heck I remember a first round pick that didn't even play in his one year in college and still got picked.

What is your problem? Do you even have an idea where this began. Your fellow Le '4-6' fan argued that teams were willing to draft him higher than 55, suggesting he was better than the 55th pick(Unless he meant NBA teams are at the mercy of the mighty Lebron and so are willing to do what he tells them) and to that i say definitely not. He doesn't have a better resume than all those drafted above him. Very simple.

Khanben:
Which is why one went 12th and the other 55th, which is exactly what you are forgetting. All of a sudden the 55th pick in the nba draft has become a big deal. Was the pick driven by nepotism? Yes, but the idea that the 55th pick in the nba is an asset is just laughable.

Speak for yourself please. Don't say i claimed sth when i didn't. If you have forgotten what i wrote go back and check. 1.4 blocks per game is actually better than average and that for his Rookie season. Do your comparative analysis properly man. My point was you draft based on the information you have. His University stats clearly suggests that he was at least a good defensive center. Very simple

And are you serious at all? I quoted his block average in response to your post, but you still ask me to check to go and check?

steady986:
1.4 blocks is what any average center averages in the NBA. You claim he was drafted because he was a Walker Kessler or something. Go check his block numbers.

Low budget Kante is not too bad though. Like his 15 Naira to Kante's 20 naira.

charlesemeka85:
the guy na low budget Kante, tochukwu Nnadi is better than him 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Be smart. How many Rookies come into the NBA and dominate? They start with limited minutes. The experience he would have had playing more regularly for Texas he had playing for a professional team in Australia. Someone being drafted from a professional league is treated differently from one from a college team, as they should.

steady986:
In 8 mins. Even more hilarious Who drafts a player who played 7 mins a game in college at 23?

Be smart man. First of , you draft based on the information you have. That's the smart way to draft. And he did carry some of it into the NBA. He averaged 8.8 points, 6.9 rebounds, and 1.4 blocks per game in 24 minutes. That's very decent for a rookie. Why won't you at least check the stats before replying?

steady986:
So did Derek Lively carry that blocking prowess into the NBA? Is rim protection what he is known for in the NBA?

This is a typical Le '4-6' fan argument . I hope you are not. You elected to omit that Lively was 7'1 and averaged 2.4 blocks per game. That's a very important start for drafting a center. Or are u new to the NBA? You can certainly do better. Go to your WhatsApp group and find me better examples pls.

Khanben:
If stats is your argument then that is just BS. You know who averaged 5.2 pts in his one college season with over 20 mpg?, Derrick Lively, and he was drafted number 12. So college stats, especially from the 1st college year, are not exactly useful for guys projected to be role players.

Now this is good. Good counter. That's how it's done. However, this man averaged 2.8 points per game in 7.9 minutes. Not comparable at all. I would ignore that too. Your guy averaged 4.8 points despite averaging almost 20 minutes.

steady986:
This guy was drafted at 23. He averaged these numbers in freaking Australia.

What was Bronny's stats in college again? Over 96% of the folks drafted above him averaged over 10%. I can only count two folks that did not, and they averaged 9.0+ points the previous year. Bronny averaged 4.8 points, 2.8 rebounds and 2.1 assists per game. Are you not ashamed of yourself?

steady986:
If we no talk about LeBron, how this thread wan take dey lively?

And to your second point, Bronny certainly has the skills to back it up. There were teams who were going to take him higher than 55 if the Lakers and Rich Paul didn't pull some strings. When you have a chance to make history, you take it. And people thinks it's only LeBron who's making history here. Bronny is also making history. So as much as LeBron wanted this to happen, I think Bronny also wanted it.