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Coach. I would like to but I don't think Chelle is it. He gets to continue because he inherited bad results. It's only fair. We have not gotten it right in a long time. In short I sometimes cannot help but think that the good options available have gotten so limited that we have to be very lucky to find the right coach. And I am not even sure we can extricate ourselves from this without pulling NFF apart, which is trouble cos the international community is watching and we may get sanctioned. Now let me circle back to it as you have. Your solution to solving the problem of inadequate training of home grown talent isn't it because if the goal is to be competitive we won't be because currently we get the worst of the bunch. Until that changes we will not do any better. A long term solution is for the NFF to help the local academies and licensed football personnel. It can be done if they are serious.

Blueelf:
Okay Benjamin

You've piqued my curiosity with your last sentence

Can you name 10.issues that need to.be addressed in the current Super Eagles team?

I can bet you, at least 6 out of those 10.issues you'll raise will.be tied to personnel issues

Which brings me back to my earlier submission, these home-grown guys lack proper football education and it shows

@Kog45, u self no try.We no fit blame person wey no come. We fit talk say him no serious, but that one self na opinion, fair though. I don't trust Okoye's goalkeeping abilities too, partly because he has a slow reaction time. But abeg no blame Okoye for this one. Nwabali's reaction time especially for that first goal was damn slow. He was rooted to the spot.

JohnBullMySon:
One thing about agenda is that it will make you contradict yourself without realising it.

You first said Okoye from his profile will make the same mistakes and there will be no difference. Next you implied that the loss is partly Okoye's fault for not showing up to camp on time, keeping Nwabali as no 1.

What you don't realize is that in the context of the outcome of that match, these two things cannot both be true at the same time.

You this man with "coulda not", "woulda not". You mostly ignored the most important part of my post. It's completely independent of whether Morocco gets beat or not. Let's say Morocco beats Guinea Bissau 10 out of 10 times.It doesn't change the fact that our side was far more talented that that team and still got thrashed, which means that there are other important issues that must be addressed to create a consistently dominant team.

Blueelf:
Bros, Morocco isn't getting whopped by Guinea bissau on that pitch

What characterised Morocco is what I said there - a very good understanding of the fundamentals which one can only get by being educated properly in a proper academy wither home or abroad

Your onyeka, onyedika and other carpenters lack this

I'll take a team of above average European stars over local champions anytime, anyday

Unpopular reaction to your unpopular opinion. The players you mentioned are just a tad above average by European standards. Unfortunately, we can't do better. The best of them will choose the other countries. Nigeria is currently merely a dumping ground. Besides, the world is fast becoming a global village in all facets, which means we can bring the fundamental technical training programs home. The NFF should be looking to support the domestic academies in this capacity. If your focus is to bring back foreign-born players, at the very least you will lose to the Europeans because the best in those technical abilities you mention play for them. Besides we were whooped by a team nowhere as talented. Clearly, technical ability is the least of our problems. No excuses. There's no reason to lose this badly.

Blueelf:
I have an unpopular opinion that may ruffle feathers but i will say it nonetheless

If we want a thriving midfield, with good ball carriers and excellent passers with a keen mind for the game, we need to only go for players with proper academy background in European countries. The likes of Iwobi, Iroegbunam etc

These your naija boys learnt football via trial and error - playing on the streets and just mastering physicality and dribbling. They lack a proper football education and it shows when they have to play a tactically disciplined side or a top side

Things like:
When to pass
Mastering space and timing
How to go for tackles rightly
How to use the "third eye"
Properly playing with your back to the defense as a DM
How to correctly interpret the coach's instructions
ETC..

These boys don't know these things. It was pure talent and grace that brought them to Europe but now, they are failing. They lack proper football Education

If you think i am lying, how many CMs have we produced from Nigeria in the last 10 years that has gone on to be world renowned since Mikel Obi? And that's because Mikel at least is a product of a football academy which is pepsi football academy

The other ones you can't really trace their roots to proper education. So they lack intelligence and just play "anywhere belle face" footballe

You can blame Chelle all you want but these players can't give what they don't have. Personally, I'll say leave Iwobi and drop everybody else from that midfield entirely from the team. They have nothing to offer. The same goes for Bruno Onyeamechi whose head is big but his mind is little like that of a mentally-challenged kid

I especially agree with the last part. I do not think we win that championship without it going down to the wire. It's hard to defend the position. He played the last two games as you pointed out. Surely if his getting suspended led to a loss of momentum, his return should fix it. It didn't. Which means there's probably something else. My guess is that the star players weren't experienced enough, and not as stacked as people make it seem. They won 72 games because they were doing something relatively new. The run to the 2022 championship was the first year i could properly judge Stephen Curry in isolation(as much as i could come close to it). As in can he really carry a team, given his size? I am glad he proved that he could.

In short, GSW going up 3-1 was the anomaly. But i understand why Draymond and others would buy into the idea that his suspension was the reason. Anything to make myself more important than i am is welcome.

For the first line, while it may be true that GSW cuddled him, I do not know if there's any other way to manage such an oversensitive player without hitting his performance( i maintain that he was important in every championship). You cannot also cuddle such a player without enabling him. So as a business you have a choice to make. They made theirs , and it produced 4 championships. Most owners would take that. It increased the value of the team.

A40:
The Warriors coddled him and this is the prize they've won for that. I'd argue that 4th chip y'all won it without him.

Klay certainly played a bigger role than him for that chip and Klay is gone while y'all continue to allow him overrate his importance whereas he's never been more than the 4th best player for all your chips

15. Steph, Iggy, Klay
17. KD, Steph, Klay
18. Steph, KD, Klay
22. Steph, Wiggins, Poole

I don't even agree his suspension cost the Warriors the 16 chip cos he played the last two games and they still lost (fair play on his Game 7 performance though)

The bolded is what saved your post(we will see). Following a tragedy the previous year, a team picked themselves up and went through to the finals of Afcon, but because you like this generation of players(underachievers, despite the talent level) better, you rubbish all their efforts(and yes this is emotional blackmail). When will you folks stop rubishing a win because it was decided by penalties? Is it not part of the game? No be the same penalty somebody go play like na short pass to goalkeeper? The only group that came close to the Amokachi set as far as achievement was the Mikel set under Keshi. Those guys missed two consecutive Afcon tourney's in 96 and 98, and managed to rack up all that. Shame no even catch you to talk all this nonsense.

You belittle the efforts of those players enroute to a championship, but you turn around and make three excuses. Goalkeeper no dey part of the team ni? Na ball boy? or did the rules of away goals apply only to Nigeria? Are injuries not part of the game? Did you not bring up a team that following a tragedy had a great tournament?

Bossoflife25:
Which AFCON have we missed in the 2020s? The World Cup self we no pass round 2. The only AFCON the 90s won, they were fortunate to beat Ivory Coast on penalties in the semis and were mediocre against a Zambia 2nd string in the final! So what the hype about?
In the 2020s we lost the final to a very good host, and we lost the semis to a World Cup semi finalist on penalties. Lost the 2022 World Cup qualification to an away goal rule, a goalkeeping error, and lot of injuries. So what are you guys on about? Even if we lose this present case and made the 2030 World Cup. This generation will be the greatest Nigerian team in history!

"Wait until we get to neutral ground". There's no such thing. This is the mainstay whenever the host nation has a decent team. Find a way to win, or get booted out. A stadium routinely fills up with host fans, sometimes quite hostile. I have no idea how appealing to a non-expert helps you. This is not even new. The Moroccan team shut down our offense and home boy had no answer. This is when you separate yourself from the bunch. It's been just a year, and perhaps there's no need to be overly critical of the man. For a similar reason there's no reason to think he's a tactical master either. The jury is still out on your man, and we'll see what stuff he's made of as his managing stint unfolds.

Mujtahida:
Even the Moroccan coach did not outcoach Chelle. Let them meet on a neutral turf. Did you see what verydarkman said about the crowd?

Good point!

Bossoflife25:
You see Osimhen running like person wey dem thief him wife, then who are you not to run?

How did we get here? As in there has never been a player who sacrificed so much for the green eagles?

Osimhen has no equal in Nigeria's football history!

You can take that to the Bank!

@Mujtahlda, it's been a while. However, what goal were you trying to achieve with the bolded? I hope that's just a joke or an exaggeration of your thought. How would i be able to defend myself when someone of a different race throws it in my face and reminds me that my brother thinks the same?

Mujtahida:
You are hitting your head against your own imagination.

A thing can happen where a man is reprimanded. However beyond a certain point, it starts looking like malicious attack. You beat a child with your right hand, you draw him close with your left hand.

Osimhen is our golden egg. Whether you guys like it or not. He's human. He erred. Not out of a selfish desire for self aggrandizement but due to his desire to win.

I saw many ungrateful, entitled Nigerians saying that what has he done sef. Gosshhhh I detest black people. That's why this race is one of the most backwardest race in the world. Stupid, ungrateful race. It never appreciates anything and that is why it never progresses because ingratitude is a stumbling block and the most ungrateful race is the black race.

Osimhen fa? Someone that was almost ready to die for us to qualify for the world cup. Look at that goal against Benin when he dipped his head right in front of the boot of the Beninoise defender. Do you know how many screws that young man has in his face? Yet today, just because of an on-field outburst, Nigerians say he's done nothing.

See them, people who are being raped by politicians daily and they offer no single resistance forming self righteous prudes condemning another man who is striving to bring honor to the country.

What he did is bad. Our condemnation must be measured and marked by grace rather than this rashness I see you spewing.

There's no coulda woulda here. No player should talk down his teammates like that. No be you born am. Talk to the coach if a simple reminder doesn't work. Besides, Ademola is at least just as important as he is in this team. That was arrogant, intentionally or not. He makes bad decisions himself. Did he not shrug off the captain when he tried to hold him? Unacceptable. I hope they have resolved it internally as someone mentioned. We need the trophy to happy ourselves, following the failure at the world cup qualifiers.

comodo:
Our captain is not outspoken. We wasted so many opportunities because of glory hunting. I can count 2 in series from Osayi. Then Bruno, then Lookman and even Akor. Captain should have cautioned these players. He just kept mute. It the captain had talked perhaps Osimhen wouldn't have bothered. We all almost fried Ejuke for not passing and suddenly we are all mute because Osimhen was very angry with what was happening. Just imagine that we were chasing the game and these players were wasting all those chances. I will not scold Osimhen one bit for the outburst, I'm only mad at him for taking it to the level he took it to. It he had continued his normal game after the outburst, I go even dash him my sister for speaking up.
The I don't care attitude he exhibited afterwards is a no no to me. I have seen Nwabali drag his defenders for shirt like pikin wey steal Akara balls for making some school boy mistakes, but still the game continues.

Please, what's the cost of a Turkish student visa, and what documents are needed?

A not-so-spectacular team can win too. The circumstances just have to be right. This is one of those.

Hate on them, but not too much. . We have benefited from this kind of situation in the past.

They don't take us down with Curry playing. I don't know if anyone would disagree with that. I thought we could win it all until Curry went down.

If Ant and those guys are any serious, they would realize this could be the easiest run to a championship and do well to make that a reality. Calm down they still have one more chance to get one game away from home.

Skrrrrrrr:
The timberwolves are gonna get swept.
I still maintain that they aren't a spectacular team and only managed to beat the warriors because steph got injured in game 1, which was coincidentally the only game they lost.....

I agree. I am also a culprit. It started with, oh he's better than AD(I believe that point aged well) to a top 20 conversation. And you may be correct that we are being too harsh on the man. Since 2021, this is the first time he has lost in the first round and played in all games.

A40:
I don't know mehn. I think people have overhyped Giannis more than we needed to. It's normal. We're all culprits. And all time greats like MJ, Kobe, Shaq, LeBronze, Steph and Duncan have kind of skewed our perspectives

Winning more than one ring is a privilege not a given. I think Giannis is a made man for life the problem is people start putting you in top 20 and top 10 conversations after one ring and then unrealistic narratives are painted

This is not good ooo. You and I apply the hammer when it comes to Le(4-6)bron. It's about time we start doing the same to our Kin. He's no longer a kid in this league.

A40:
No be all this one even pain me I saw someone on Twitter claiming he had passed the Dream. I just can't with these Johnny come lately NBA fans man.

I don't think Giannis is entirely at fault. They just hit a wall post championship. Held on to Middleton longer than necessary. Guys like Lopez as well. I still think y'all caught a break in 2022 though with Middleton going down but that's a part of the game

@steady no need to run from the thread. A comeback is possible.

Sha no get heart attack on top this team. I warned you. . It's time to imagine. Imagine this team cruises to the NBA finals and wins it. Just Imagine.

Skrrrrrrr:
Lol. Are you counting on it. People wey blow 20point lead.
It's not like the team is bad, to be honest, there is only a marginal difference from seeds 3 to 8. But they have this uncanny ability to get comfortable in games where they lead by a margin and blow up the lead. Also Steve kerr doesn't seem to realise that the game has changed significantly and a 20point deficit could be erased in a minute, his two team nonsense has cost us a lot of games....
Anyway, unto the rockets.
Won't get my hopes up until we manage to eliminate them. If we do....

Damn. Dem swear for you ni? @birdman you see your fellow Le(4-6) fan)? What else can this be if not an excuse? Dem never even play Ooo, but 'oh, it can only be the coach'. Him no go even wait. It's become instinctive.

steady986:
But last last, this was a game of pride for the Warriors. They couldn't have allowed the Lakers to sweep them 4-0 this season. And when your entire bench scores 7 points, you're going to lose.

By and large, I still think the two teams are evenly matched. I felt that way before the trade deadline, and I feel that way after the trade deadline. It will all come down to coaching and who wants it more.

Common he didn't have a choice but to jump ship. The Celtics had a big 4.

A40:
See some people goat

Wonderful. If you can point to us any of Lebron's final losses for which he was significantly responsible, this goes away. I promise. This is just as boring and cliche as you constantly downplaying the strength of Lebron's teams. Waiting for that admission.

steady986:
Stfu jare. You're sounding boring at this point

It has become first nature for una to find excuses. I don't even think you are doing this intentionally. You have Lebron and Luka with a decent supporting cast. We are all definitely on the same level. As usual Le(4-6) fans.

steady986:
Lol. #2 o, #6 o. It's all the same to me. I feel every team from 2 to 6 is on the same level and can beat each other. You can even add the Clippers and Wolves to that mix. My own be say make we avoid play-in, because e no too far like this

Oh far from it. Nice try though. I just don't remember a time when Lebron thought his team could win at less than full capacity. I mean the plan is to always have an excuse ready, isn't it?

steady986:
If your question is who I should listen to between you and LeBron, it's LeBron because he clearly knows ball better than you do.

LeBron said this himself. Are you ok? Do you realize that Lebron is a defendant here?

steady986:
Team wey be say if one or two key players dey miss (whether star or role player), everywhere don burst, na him una dey call championship contender. Lol. Una no even sabi anything. Look at OKC, Boston and the Cavs, those teams are fundamentally sound that one person missing doesn't really change a lot about them.

LeBron said this himself, for this team to achieve anything of significance this season, they have to play 100% at full capacity every single night, which is not always attainable due to injuries and fatigue accumulation.

Le(4-6)fans dey too emotional and too get strong head. A 55th pick is an NBA player if he is in the NBA. Tell us what Stephen A criticized Bronny for. Stating his stats again is not criticism. While you try to gather that, show me which other late pick had Lebron James as their father. Ofcourse the context was his father. His father forced him into the NBA by hook or crook. Any record to help his case matters, including creating the first Father-and-son-with-an-NBA-contract narrative. Another feather on his 'longevity' cap. Man played long enough to see his Son drafted. bla bla bla

steady986:
Stating player stats for the no. 55th pick. Now tell me which other late picks in NBA history he has stated their stats.

Oh, the answer is none.

Le(4-6)fans dey too emotional and too get strong head. A 55th pick is an NBA player if he is in the NBA. Tell us what Stephen A criticized Bronny for. Stating his stats again is not criticism. While you try to gather that, show me which other late pick had Lebron James as their father. Ofcourse the context was his father. His father forced him into the NBA by hook or crook.

steady986:
Stating player stats for the no. 55th pick. Now tell me which other late picks in NBA history he has stated their stats.

Oh, the answer is none.

Stating a player's stats is a statement of fact. That by itself isn't a criticism.

steady986:
Yea, let's give the same amount of scrutiny to a no. 55 pick as we'd give to no. 2 picks

And Stephen A has criticized Bronny a lot of times, even going as far as stating what he averages for the season. Have you been under a rock?

If Stephen A wants to criticise LeBron for using his powers to draft Bronny, he should come out and say so. He's been on record so many times saying he has no problem with it. In fact, he applauds it. So your point about LeBron doing everything within his power to play with his son is moot, because Stephen A doesn't have a problem with that.

What Stephen A does when it pertains Bronny is what the random LeBron hater on social media does. That feels a little corny. Have you ever seen Mike Wilburn or Tony Kornheiser or Chris Brussard talk about Bronny in that manner? It's only the hatters in the media who do that.

Who bewitched you? Everybody knows who the. favorites are? Lefans are never straightforward with anything. You are never the favourite. Anybody else but you.

steady986:
No one is claiming not to be a contender. We're contenders as much as the warriors or the Nuggets are contenders. But does that mean we're the favourites to win it. Everybody knows the favourites are.

Hmm, I love this. Give em.

greypencils:
I have been paying that since 93 to the KING. Your baby goat was still an 8 year old boy.

How far now? Back to factory reset on top GSW?

Skrrrrrrr:
You know I was right. You can pretend all you want.

What's this about?Can you send some details?

ayo84:
Hi im looking for a business partner to collaborate with in the usa for running a business advisory and consulting company.

It may work if their opponents are doing the same.

joshboo:
Worked last season...

Boston ain't getting away with this nonsense this season, Zero plays, just spam 3s all game long.

@ greypencils, did you touch a live wire or sth? Do you need a second shock to reboot?


Your boy Iverson is so efficient that Curry at the 3 is just as efficient. Do you even know what this means?

No need for explanation. Anybody wey get strong heart make dem continue to craze on top this team. I will not become hypertensive because of one team. At least they are racking up wins this season, which I think they could have done last season. Many of their games were close. Na so so so up and down. Me just dey wait for playoffs.

And abeg leave Skrrrrrrr, make him continue to hype this team. Na so him dey do every year. Him heart strong well well. You need those kind people for your corner.

greypencils:
I ain't thinking too far. The west is stacked and anything can happen. Injuries do alter playoff results. It's all about the playoffs Bro. Skrrrr would never understand how broken I was when GSW lost the 2019 finals. I didn't feel pain when they lost in 2016, I wasn't sold on them yet. KD joining them was what took me over the edge. I have been a KD fan since forever. The 2018-19 GSW team was EPIC; Curry, Klay, KD, Green, Cousins. Which team on earth could stop them? I was over the moon. THEN THEY LOST. I was broken, snapping at friends and being moody for more than a month after they lost. That's too much emotional investment. I have since toned down my emotions. I take these games as they come.

Talking about Toronto, I have never seen any team get their karma real quick. Masai set them up for a championship, 5 years down the line, there is no atom of value in that team. Lowry, Kawhi, Siakam, Gasol, Green, Ibaka, Powell, Anunobi, Van Vleet, all gone. Worse, no one with potential. Cavs was disbanded after 18, they are back on top ready to compete. OKC was stripped of KD & Russ, now they are back on top. Heat is still on project Butler, San Antonio is on project Wemby. Toronto is on what project, Scottie Barnes?