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benalvino: you and your buddy truthislight cant answer Yes or no to phil 2:7... you are coming with more...

Yooguyz: i recommend this thread for front pages.

www.nairaland.com/1417830/hypocrites-jehovahs-witness-abandons-secret

FOLYKAZE: But man why are you doing this to yourself? Personal pleasures should be something you enjoy with your partner or self which shouldn't lead to hatred and attack toward others. Even though they convey message which is against your pleasure.....you should have keep things to yourself, enjoy your life and move on.

Bidam: @Yooguyz, you should be smart enough to know that bernimore is actually barrister,benalvino did expose the crook.

benalvino:

[size=18pt]one I do not know you[/size]...
[size=18pt]two you believe and defend them. Its not a bad thing [/size]but I say you are one of them based on every single thing you believe comes from them... Michael the archangel etc... [size=18pt]That is enough to bring speculations[/size]

thank you for the bolded

in summary you speculate!

benalvino: did the bible say he was a spirit servant then took the form of a human servant? Lmao... i dont laugh die...
it says he was in the form God... despite he can be in equality with God... he did not take it as advantage... He make him self a servant...

Now you done come with spirit servant and human servant again. LOL

for a simple yes or no question

Yooguyz: @BARRISTERS/BALTIMORE,
Na wah oh! You no dey change pattern? The same type of trolling, the same abusive comments that earned you a ban you are still using eh! Do you know you can again? Many of the information you posted about me are misleading and you know it. The same thing that earned you a ban, you are still doing it. Remember you are GUILTY OF BREAKING RULE 2. Oya start to beg me before i report you, i give you from now till tommorow morning.

BTW how is Striktlymi doing?

JMAN05: WHAT!!!!!!!!! and he still has mouth to talk? a pastor too? even have the courage to vomit that crime on NL?

Where has our consciences gone! May God have mercy for this generation!

benalvino: How can it not make sense?

The question is:
[size=28pt]Did he take the form of a servant?[/size]

Yes or No?

JMAN05: what the GB says is just the truth. and they are flexible while sticking to the sciptural bound. what else will they do? the bible has already stated that a matter is established by two witnesses. they have also giving the parents the go ahead order to report to the police if they wish if no two witnesses appeared. It is also logical they made it an individual decision cos the bible's boundary stopped at two witnesses, so anything against, the accuser will bear the consequent from Jah not the GB.

I want to state that mentioning the crime the person commited is good, but is not necessary for a TRUE JW.

because when anybody is disfellowshipped, no one is expected to communicate, greet or even eat with such a person unless you are not a true JW. so when you maintain this scriptural direction, you will not be in danger.

Yooguyz: @BENIMORE,
LOL, dude you need more coaching on how to derial threads. But just so you know nothing you will say can get to me. Am numb to stuffs like this

Yooguyz: LOL....calm down bro, calm down, i know it hurts that i have to slap the truth across your face like this. I know it hurts, but you gat to pick up the courage and face it like a man!

benalvino: Lol... you still dont get the point dont you...

me and you are created long after "the beginning"... Jesus was there... he was before all things all angels...
Me and you dont know when he became a servant or precisely when he became a servant... but what we do know is that at a point in time... He was in the [size=18pt]Form GOD[/size] then later he took upon the form of a [size=18pt]servant[/size]

Compare the above to angels was created as servants... their work is to serve God...
From their creation till today they are servants... they never took upon the form servant they were created like that...

Remember the bible say Jesus did not take equally with God at his own advantage... that tells you he was God... The word was God... the word Became flesh.

[size=18pt]again Jesus took upon the form servant which means there was a time he was not servant.[/size]

Yooguyz: FYM, i have never been warned about any topic thats because all my threads do not contain false information ok. I hate religious hypocrisy thats what am fighting against.
So how's kingdom hall tommorrow gonna be like? Are going to give a bible talk tommorow.

Yooguyz: @BENIMORE,
excuse me, dont mean to be rude, but how's that related to this thread are you trying to derial the subject matter by crucifying the proponent of the argument?

benalvino: It is funny How you dont comprehend the bible or english...

3 question...
Did Jesus take the form of a servant? Yes or No....
Did the angels take or had choice to be servant or not? Yes or No....
Before Jesus became servant what form was he? a: a servant, b: God c:Human

After you post all that still phil 2:7 states that Jesus took upon the form of a servant... Now if you like say he took it in Heaven or on Earth! this will not change the fact that he wasn't a servant at first before he took upon the form of a servant... Another fail from you... try again.

For your information the angels are all servant of God... from when they are created to when satan rebel.... the righteous angels are all servants Of God till today.

So i guess you cant counter phil 2:7... It was clear that jesus was not servant when he was in heaven from the very start... Where he became servant heaven or earth doesnt matter anymore because at first he was not servant... He was in the form God... then took upon the form servant... the keep words are in red font. below

[size=18pt]6who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men.…[/size]

the red font is what you cant deny.

benalvino: Its a shame that you are using wikipedia Lmao!

Questions...

When the Bible is talking about Human breath, what does it use?
a: neshamah
b: ruach

let me help you with some verses.
Isaiah 30:33: "the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone,"
Isaiah 42:5: "the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people
Daniel 10:17: "there remained no strength in me, neither is there breath left"

^^ the above is for breath... go and check the hebrew word used for breath there...
Numbers 5:14: " And the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she"
Numbers 5:14: "and she be defiled: or if the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous"
Numbers 5:30: "Or when the spirit of jealousy cometh upon him, and he be jealous"
Numbers 11:17: "thee there: and I will take of the spirit which is upon thee, and will put it upon"
Numbers 11:25: "unto him, and took of the spirit that was upon him, and gave it unto"
Numbers 11:25: "the seventy elders: and it came to pass, that, when the spirit rested upon them, they prophesied,"

you can do the same with The Greek...
instead of you to answer the questions in the post you replied... you left it and post wiki... lol you should answer question directly.

And from your wiki post... the words you make so low says something important that goes against you, so you make it so small...

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benalvino: you keep saying the above which doesn't make any sense...

Check the hebrew word used for breath... then Check the hebrew word used for spirit... hebrew word for spirit that applies to the angel and God is applied to humans....

You dont seem to want to accept but bring latin words into this... which doesnt add to your argument...
try same with Greek words for breath and spirit...

[Compare Jude 19]:
"Apostates not having the Spirit, ,i.e., they have a human spirit which is dead - not being made alive by God the Holy Spirit. They are therefore spiritually dead."

you said we dont have spirit but we breath spirit or we breath air while angels resides in air or breeze... Human work is to breath in angels who resides in the hair. tell me what the above verse says or what you understand from the bold...

Are you saying the verse is saying we have breath which is dead? does it make sense? can air we breath be dead?

[I Cor 2:14]:
"The natural man, i.e., the unbeliever, who has a dead human spirit, is incapable of receiving the things of the Spirit of God - because they are spiritually discerned."

^^ see the above tell me what you understand? instead of you to be hiding in your baseless latin word explanation.

[Compare Jn 4:23]:
"Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will[b] worship the Father in spirit and truth[/b], for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks."

Worship the father in breath we breath? see how senseless your explaination below is becoming


Jesus told the woman at the well: "They that worship God worship Him in spirit, [their human spirits] and truth" (which is Bible doctrine - God's Word: You cannot worship God except through the learning of the Word of God. A person is born physically alive but with a dead human spirit).

the statement above is out of utter ignorance... We have both physical and spiritual form... you failed try again.

benalvino:

BERNIMOORE you are beginning to go off the cliff... forget confusing your self. when God gave man Breath in Genesis 2:7 was it figurative?
Genesis 2:7 then the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature.
^^^ hebrew for breath neshamah

The English word spirit (from Latin spiritus "breath"

(נְשָׁמָה nəšâmâh) or nephesh (in Hebrew neshama comes from the root NŠM or "breath"