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Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 11:40am On Aug 27, 2013
[size=18pt]sorry 'e'was placed, because i want to post after the question,but fell behind the answer and pasted after your post, because i want you to see it after your post

if you remove without putting a word like like 'e' or any letter it will not post.[/size]


i have gone to the post and observe so you can see the statements 'not before again but after your post to match your question in that thread' THE STATEMENT STILL POSTED STILL AGREES WITH MY STAND , THAT i support the fact that jesus is the son of God'

but you have NOT ESTABLISH A STATEMENT THAT I EVER DENIED AND LATER REMOVED
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 11:36am On Aug 27, 2013
benalvino: again you have shown your ignorance...

I said you replace a statement of at least 100 words with a letter "e"

hahaha how long will it take before you remove this one again?
I never said "e" was your statement but i said you replace a statement with a letter "e" or you dont know the meaning of statement and letter again?

https://www.nairaland.com/1403841/why-jesus-son-god-not/4#17683120

https://www.nairaland.com/1403841/why-jesus-son-god-not/4#17684347
sorry 'e'was placed, because i want to post after the question,but fell behind the answer and pasted after your post, because i want you to see it after your post

if you remove without putting a word like like 'e' or any letter it will not post.


i have gone to the post and observe so you can see the statements 'not before again but after your post to match your question in that thread' THE STATEMENT STILL POSTED STILL AGREES WITH MY STAND , THAT i support the fact that jesus is the son of God'

but you have NOT ESTABLISH A STATEMENT THAT I EVER DENIED AND LATER REMOVED
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 11:28am On Aug 27, 2013
benalvino: as y'all can see the claims victory meaning he is coming here to win argument or whatever... i never come to compete and i never knew you were competing with me and more over it is only you who have said you won and no body said or no one was keeping scores. i know your friend truthislight will easily say you won...

but if it makes you sleep well at night i too will tell you that you won... at least i like making you happy.
what have i done for you today
1: i said you won
2: i cried because you made me look stupid
3: etc

see how you are happy because i said how you make the other guy looks stupid in the deeperlife thing... the first time i am seeing joy in your face for the past couple of hours...

now yall can see his motive from his post... to come here and make people look stupid and brag about it...

[size=18pt]lets all show him some love... lets all look stupid so he can feel good of him self[/size]

if speculation is an offense then it is an offense for nairaland to allow it...
i speculate that you are dating that girl is an offense?
speculation is an offence for you, do you know?

i stand a better chance of winning if my primary motive is to prove that my reputation was harmed in your speculation, rather than suing for monetary damages, vengeance or stopping you from republishing the defamatory statements.

it was a contempt,

A lawsuit might actually be establish on the defamatory speculations.

A Libel lawsuit

I Can put my counsel on alert, immidiately i hunt your true person
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 11:12am On Aug 27, 2013
benalvino: HAHAHAHA bernimoore you have removed your post that makes me realize you did not understand what translate and interpret means... and yet you keep saying this

let me show you the statement you witdrew
firstly in quote

this is as a result i think... me saying that you are trying to make me look silly by quoting me... I dont know why you realy replace the quote above with [size=18pt]"e"[/size] what kind of mistake you make in a statement that is atleast 100 words and correct it with one letter [size=18pt]"e"[/size]

but the second one is the one you show that you dont know the difference of translate and interpret. see the quote below


he corrected the above blunder according to him with this [size=18pt]"["[/size]
again correct a statement of atleast 100 words with just a symbol [size=18pt]"["[/size]

what your brain did not tell you is that when you make a post and i quote you... you can change your post but it wont change on my quote tongue

and you are the one saying i should show post you withdrew...

if i make mistake or accuse you false on this point it out i stand corrected
how does [, and "e", becomes a statement? you suck grin grin grin

you mean that i should wait for a whole day when im less busy to type on a microsoft word which would and certify all words properly before i post?

show me a statement i have ADMITTED BEFORE, BUT LATER DENIED, AND THEN WITHDRAWN, im sure you are going to show symbols or letters, Anofia! and you still continue in your blunder that agellos is a hebrew word in your dictionary,EWU like you grin grin grin grin



so
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 11:02am On Aug 27, 2013
benalvino: Lol i am still laughing about Bernimoore saying I am hurt because from his behavior he joins nairaland to hurt people... He always brag about making someone looks stupid especially how he brags about making olagbedu look stupid concerning deeperlife thing. Now he is the one who is looking stupid because you just dealing with someone who dont care. lol...

even if you see me in the street or a populated place it is almost impossible to embarrass me... cheesy grin
naim i go come nairaland come feel hurting because of you... lmao you go kill me for laugh.

na shame them put for your body you change your ID from BARRISTER to BERNIMOORE... you spell your id in capital letters on both even... stop lying man. haba why are you taking this forum so serious?
bolded above makes me laugh grin grin grin grin

who shamed me? nobody, go to all the links that i have participated, including yours, i won them all!

can you remember the thread firstborn first created that you OP,

remember those words in bold that you wrote, that ;'YOU(BERNIMOORE)WON EVEN THOUGH'....

its a testimony on my part, you want me to quote the page, then deny first.

i have solid evidences about olaadegbu, but you dont have one against me

you admit speculating me as barrister, that alone is INVALID! NO PROOF. you are yet to give a solid one!

I have been mistaken severally on this but i still stand by what i have earlier said.

nairaland allows speculations, but speculating another person on my person is an offence, and like i said a crime, and libelious.

i will continue, but not until i trash every bit of these so that others will see my stand.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 10:17am On Aug 27, 2013
benalvino: you alter your post...
I dont see how you will type "e" and someone will click like someone who i suspect is truthislight...

in the 2nd one you delete you replace it with "["

again the link i provide up there shows that what was a post a statement has been replaced with "e" and this particular one has 1 like! how can you just type "e" and someone likes it.

the other one is "["
you disappointed me, i thought you would show us how i withdrawn a statement that i have admitted before but later denied and delete, which you might have captured

but to my disappointment it was a typo error, whichnairaland in their discretion provides facilities to amend, where is the crime here?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 10:12am On Aug 27, 2013
Another reason why you are barrister and a jehovah's witness... Reason because if you do something like that why will I take your words that you are not barrister and not a witness ?
you are really trying hard to merge me with JWS based on speculation as you have admitted, but no im not a jw,

go and sort out your issues with them. while i continue to oppose every false teaching using valid evidences from any source including some of JW teachings. take that to the bank from me again
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 10:02am On Aug 27, 2013
benalvino: lol am hurt? hahahaahahaha very funny.
I know this is the reason you came online to see who you can hurt.
and you remove your whole statement stop lying... except you have added something again to those link but i have screen shuts i took. let me go and check them.

Lol am hurt!!! i cant stop laughing.
[size=14pt]can you show me statements that i have made before to butress a point but later denied it, after withrawal? other than adding details(allowed by the nairaland), or typo errors corrected?

show it now, or forever be quiet

im waiting, [/size]
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 9:49am On Aug 27, 2013
[size=14pt]since i did not withdraw my full statement, typogriphical errors can be ammended.ok

come up with another one, i knew that you are hurt, you said that i made you look silly,

you want me to start digging your typo errrors? if i start with you the thread will be derailed, but i may not hesitate[/size]
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 9:42am On Aug 27, 2013
benalvino: If y'all go up the thread like page 3 and 4 you will notice that bernimoore is deleting his post by adding "." or "]" as you can see he is not a sincere person and a pretender... Lol you are a big liar by that act because you are trying to cover up your trace.

Another reason why you are barrister and a jehovah's witness... Reason because if you do something like that why will I take your words that you are not barrister and not a witness ?

https://www.nairaland.com/1403841/why-jesus-son-god-not/4#17683120

https://www.nairaland.com/1403841/why-jesus-son-god-not/4#17684347

these are links to post he deleted...

if you like go add something again like you never deleted it... i have taken a screen shut of the page you are not a sincere person.
sorry, there is nothing wrong in adding to your statements, as long as the Nairaland allows that! but If someone is banned, he dare not use another Id which im still waiting for you to prove ok?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 9:34am On Aug 27, 2013
benalvino: NAaa you are barrister...
Yes I insist you are one of them... Its not a crime too.

it ia a very hard coincidence for someone who dont know you and you bro to point out you are your bro when he has never met you... There are a million registered users of nairaland. One cannot recognise you unless they know how you behave online.

He said you are barrister and behold you are barrister's brother.
does he know me from Adam? do you ask? he doesnt!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 9:14am On Aug 27, 2013
[b]benalvino:[/b]Its not a bad thing but I say you are one of them based on every single thing you believe comes from them... Michael the archangel etc...
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 9:09am On Aug 27, 2013
[size=14pt]yet, based on speculation you admitted above, you still went ahead to write this below;[/size]

And I still insist you are one of them...You use to be barrister when asked you lied you are not him.. Then later said he is your brother...
and since you speculate , hear me again, and [size=18pt]it is me that can tell who i am[/size]

Barrister is my brother, ok? im a different person, im bernimoore you can take this to the bank from me
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 8:57am On Aug 27, 2013
benalvino: [size=18pt]one I do not know you[/size]...
[size=18pt]two you believe and defend them. Its not a bad thing [/size]but I say you are one of them based on every single thing you believe comes from them... Michael the archangel etc... [size=18pt]That is enough to bring speculations[/size]
thank you for the bolded

in summary you speculate!

do you know it is a crime to speculate and present it as a fact of evidence?
a contempt to mine fundamentals of human right, maybe you dont know
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 8:39am On Aug 27, 2013
benalvino: Ya we go again... Now you are accusing me of Making a meal out of it or you are the one who push me to point it out?

Haba! I was looking forward to good discussion till you start your rubbish again like you are Perfect and never makes mistake... When I should you your mistake you come to say am the one making meal out of it...

I am beginning to see that you are a perfect human being... You dont make or do no wrong. You dont start fight or quarrel. I was the one who has always make big deal of everything. I am guilty in this case even if am not guilty I want to be guilty so we can move on as long as bernimoore thinks he is making fool out of me. Shall we go on now? I admit I am guilty
hello,

you have not answered my question

pls state it clearly, do you know me from adam?

have i ever admit to be A JW to you, or any person? then why speculate without proof?

then, is it wrong or a crime to support the JWS?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 8:23am On Aug 27, 2013
You based your speculation on the bolded below;

benalvino: no excuse you can bring... nothing gives me the avenue to twist besides if you know it will give me an avenue to twist you wont do it... you are person who is trying to show off that he is kool or something and guess what, i am not making a big deal out of it... it is you who comes here trying to build reputation from nairaland... funny thing is that people dont even know you in real life.

you keep denying your religion, for only you know the reason. I have never seen someone who dont belong to catholic or any religion but is just a fan of Jehovah's witness yet has refuse to join... knows all their teaching and supports and defends it.

people like frosbel was a catholic but now he is not... frosbel takes unitarian beliefs if he says he is not in any church one can believe him... you took jehovah's witness beliefs and claim you are not one of them just a fan.

so do you want to continue or do you want to start forcing errors out of nothing... like the way you did when i said "an angel and messenger" which is the same as "an angel, messenger"

there are people who care... people like you who changes their ID just maybe to escape shame or something... as for me if when am walking in the street... in public it is hard for someone to put me in shame because i dont care really. I live my life... so if you think your plans are to achieve that, I promise you that it will never work or affect me. cheesy grin cheesy you are just dealing with the wrong person.

[size=18pt]you want to continue?[/size]
i showed you a write up by a non jehovah's witness on this issue, RAY FOUCHER on the other tread, who held same belief on angels, do you aknowledge that?

then, why forcing JW on me? anyway i still stand by my earlier affirmations.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 8:16am On Aug 27, 2013
benalvino: Lol yes a blunder it was suppose to read the Greek not Hebrew.. Are you happy? Should we move on?

I accept the fact that I said the Hebrew is Greek and the Greek is Hebrew... A mistake. So can we continue
Happy? im always happy,

you were trying to make a meal out of what you are equally guilty of.time is nt sufficient for one to make neccesary editing because you are busy, you type at work, at home in your car, its normal that you post what you dont really mean, but accompanying sentences around it will show your true intention,

but then you start saying that im denying my religion,

pls state it clearly, do you know me from adam?

have i ever admit to be A JW to you, or any person? then why speculate without proof?

then, is it wrong or a crime to support the JWS?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 8:06am On Aug 27, 2013
benalvino: @bernimoor ok lets go into meaningful discussion now... so we can get to somewhere. i am done trolling.
like i defined before i will go into more details.

object if you may... an angel means 2 things...
first a spirit being created by God to minister

[size=18pt]the word hebrew word aggelos is where angel came from... this word means an angel first then messenger...[/size] the short definition is an angel first then messenger...

[size=18pt]malawk [i]is a greek word that means messenger [/i]and the short definition is angel [/size]

so angel = messenger this applies to humans sometimes.
an angel means spirit beings with different essence of human spirit also.
the bible made clear distinction between angels and humans.
Mark 12:25 "For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven." if we are angels we can not be like them.

again we know certain people can be called angel because messenger means angel... but angel has 2 meaning which one is exclusive for the angels in heaven and the other is use for people who are messengers of the lord of course the angels are also messengers...

now the problem is satan is called a angel but he is a messenger of no one... that is the point i am trying to make... first angel is a nature of some certain creature.

It said to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, "Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates." (Rev 9:14)
this four angels are demons...
in your post above;

[size=14pt]see YOUR BLUNDER BOLDED ABOVE IN YOUR QUOTE, I NEVER BRAG ABOUT THAT[/size]

You confuse yourself saying Agellos is a hebrew word, while it is a greek word, CONFIRM PLS, SO THAT I CAN MAKE A MEAL OUT OF THAT

agellos is a greek word for angel

malawk is also a hebrew word for angel
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE:
this is my original post below;

show me the blunder, especially when it applies to a particular case;

[quote author=benalvino]
benalvino:

not really... lets look at some example
if aggelous translate an angel and messenger... why will short meaning mean and angel, and messenger? you get the point... I have told you that the angels are their nature. since satan has rebelled against God and is still called an angel is the point am making...
bernimoore;
cant you get the point, maybe others can help us out, this is something that has to do with understanding of english, in the university or in your PGD or other higher learning this is the reason why 'the use of english' GNS courses are always introduced, so as to get a true meaning of a notion.

aggelos is same with ANGEL, not translated as 'Angel', but interpreted as 'Angel', you still have 'Angel' mentioned in its short meaning (because the english oral pronounciation comes first which you mistake for interpretation purpose) and then the translation follows(messenger), the difference is that

i.e Goat(english lang) interpreted as Ewu(igbo lang)= an animal

what you are saying is that, Goat was created as Ewu first before it becomes animal, are you not repeating same thing that 'goat was created as Ewu first' is goat not the same Ewu? does it makes sense?[size=18pt] althouth it is a form of 'code mixing' in the 'comm. in Eng' but it does not make sense if applied in this case.[/size]


if you can drop your pride and reason, it will be better! it is hard to admit, but i dont see any joy jumping up for showing you what you ough to have aknowledge
bolded above, i aknowledged that 'althouth it is a form of 'code mixing'

yes, i later realised that i shouldnt have put 'not translated' because it will give an impression that im nullifying 'translate outrightly' because i was typing fast and could not notice or edit fast.

but my examples shows what i mean. my emphasis is 'on interpretations'

I actually 'personalised' it by saying 'but it does not make sense if applied in this case' in that same quote you posted, but you did not capture it along
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 6:41am On Aug 27, 2013
benalvino: the funny thing is the first time you come and stated that i added "And" looking for an excuse while you and me know that a,b,c is same as a and b and c....

now you brought something that has past that is of no relevance to what we are discussing now...
i said malak is messenger
and aggelos is an angel am i wrong? no... the thing you quote also shows where i said aggelos means an angel and a messenger... you are just trying to make someone look stupid...

lol when you show us that you dont know what interpretation and translation means means i did not brag about it... instead i said lets move on even if you try to act like this to cover up your blonder


after this blonder you now made a statement below...


when am serious am not here to make fun... if i want to make fun i will start non sense again.... so dont start. lets keep it simple.
which blunder?

for God sake, i knew it will give you an avenue to twist and twist thats why i dont want to go further on that.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 3:27pm On Aug 26, 2013
(permission from the op pls)

bolded below are your earlier stand!


benalvino: malak: a messenger
Original Word: מַלְאָך
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: malak
Phonetic Spelling: (mal-awk')
Short Definition: angel



aggelos: an angel, messenger
Original Word: ἄγγελος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: aggelos
Phonetic Spelling: (ang'-el-os)
Short Definition: an angel, messenger
Definition: a messenger, generally a (supernatural) messenger from God, an angel, conveying news or behests from God to men.

[size=14pt]you making your self look more and more desperate... keep trying grin
common sense will tell you angelos and malawk are not same[/size]
benalvino: olodo... lol

[size=28pt]Malawk: a messenger[/size]

[size=28pt]aggelos: an angel[/size]
you see your life? why changing it now?

Now tell us the difference between malawk and Agellos?

now,
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 3:15pm On Aug 26, 2013
benalvino: this is a good example that supports me... I told you aggelos translate into 2 types of words... one is an angel and the other is a messenger...

the verse you presented shows that the greek aggelos is translated as messenger. this is what am trying to say. one greek word like
arché: beginning, origin
Original Word: ἀρχή, ῆς, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: arché
Phonetic Spelling: (ar-khay')

Short Definition: ruler, beginning

translates to origin and beginning
and short defintion or interpretation is ruler and beginning.
the word can be used in various context. you get the point?
you are changing issues now too bad!, [size=14pt]if not show me the difference between agellos and malawk? now, do it now,[/size]
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 3:09pm On Aug 26, 2013
benalvino: this is one habit of you i know... you look for excuse to object too much... i did not see this before...

see: ben, david, chinedu
is the same as ben and chinedu and david or ben, chinedu and david.
for he definition you give a aggelos is a messenger, especially an angel... this alone means aggelos means variety of things which one is an angel

definition from strong concordance
a messenger, generally a (supernatural) messenger from God, an angel, conveying news or behests from God to men.
again this definition is showing that aggelos means several things.. not just a messenger but an angel also.
yes, a valid excuse, you would have said that earlier, your impression was that you said Aggellos and malawk are not same, true or false?

you further said that while agellos is used directly for only angels was that they are 'in angel's form' first before 'messenger' and that Malawk directly apply to human messenger

Benalvino:aggelos translate as: an angel and messenger... check the strong
short definition: an angel, and messenger.

[b]if you look at malawk you will quickly see that it translate as messenger from hebrew to english[/b]and interprets angel.
you cant change this grin grin grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 3:00pm On Aug 26, 2013
benalvino: haven said the above... me and you know what we are not spirits... therefore we are not angels... we are different from them.

[size=18pt]all angels are spirits[/size]
Hebrews 1:14
Are they not all ministering spirits, sent out to render service for the sake of those who will inherit salvation?

with this you can see why the greek aggelos translate: an angel and then messenger.

do you object?
can you see the bolded?

we have spirit form and phisical form(human)

there is NOTHING like 'angels form', but[b] spirit angel[/b], the word Angel is 'to dispatch' a verb, check that too.

God too is spirit


[size=18pt]angels are in the same spiritual form of God, but not equal with God[/size]
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 2:47pm On Aug 26, 2013
check strong lexicons and tell us what you see!

(Luke 7:24)
"And when the messengers (aggelos) of John were departed, he began to speak unto the people concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness for to see? A reed shaken with the wind?"

so john the baptist, (Matt 11:10) and his messengers are agellos; angel first, and messenger

so, they are in angelic form, abi agellos!

maybe you can clearly see now that malawk was not used here for them as humans but your preffered agellos which you said means angel form first, then messenger
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 2:19pm On Aug 26, 2013
benalvino: nope... i disagree... aggelos is translated from greek to english as an angel, messenger.
interpretation of the word is an angel, [size=28pt]and[/size] messenger...
bolded above is your addition, you added 'and' see it from your own defination of angel! below;

aggelos: an angel, messenger
Original Word: ἄγγελος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: aggelos
Phonetic Spelling: (ang'-el-os)
Short Definition:[size=18pt] an angel, messenger[/size]

an angel, messenger[/quote]
interpretation is saying the meaning of something... like a word... translation is changing it from one language to another...


^^ nope... Goat in english translate as ewu in igbo not interprets... you are confusing translate and interpret...

ewu in igbo interprets as an animal...

i dont know if you are trying to be sarcastic using goat in trying to call me a goat lmao!!! anyway you are confusing both.

nope... i did not say goat was created as ewo... or angel was created in our discussion... am simply talking about translation. again you are confusing translate for interpret...

aggelos translate as: an angel and messenger... check the strong
short definition: an angel, and messenger.
im not trying to be sarcastic! at all by using ewu, im not even an ibo man,ok.

i dont need to do that, interpret and translations may lead us to or distract if we steered more on them,i would have loved to still prove them, but maybe we should now focus on the original meaning of agellos, to save distraction

you admitted that agellos translates Angel first, as it was put in your reference dictionary, against malawk which translates directly to messenger,

which means agellos cant be used for humans but balawk can be used for humans, is nt it?

since you urge me to use strong lexicon;

it will interest you that agellos was used for a human (john the baptist) while jesus was speaking of john

mathew 11:10

"For this is he (John the Baptist), of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger (aggelos) before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee." (Matt 11:10)

G32

ἄγγελος

aggelos

ang'-el-os

From ἀγγέλλω aggellō ; a messenger ; especially an angel ; by implication a pastor: - {angel} messenger.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE:
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Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 11:36am On Aug 26, 2013
Benalvino

bernimoore:isaiah was sent a seraphim, the seraphim went to the alter, use tongs to pick a live coal, and also with a message from God


isaiah 6:6
6 Then one of the seraphim flew to me with a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with tongs from the altar. 7 With it he touched my mouth and said, “See, this has touched your lips; your guilt is taken away and your sin atoned for.”

the seraphim here no doubt carried on an assignment designated for him as a messenger
in view of the imformation above, in isaiah 6:6 are seraphim 'confined to Gods throne' or also are beign sent on errands?

answer
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 10:28am On Aug 26, 2013
Benalvino: saraphims are not messengers they are care takers of God's throne..
is it according to Benalvino, or according to the bible, because in benalvino's opinion,saraphims are not messengers

benalvino, i knew you are only acting based on the extent you know, yet you want to remain STANGNANT, who told you that the duty of seraphims is limited only to Gods throne?

isaiah was sent a seraphim, the seraphim went to the alter, use tongs to pick a live coal, and also with a message from God


isaiah 6:6
[size=14pt]6 Then one of the seraphim flew to me with a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with tongs from the altar. [/size]7 With it he touched my mouth and said, “See, this has touched your lips; your guilt is taken away and your sin atoned for.”

[size=14pt]the seraphim here no doubt carried on an assignment designated for him as a messenger

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Again I have define angel for you else where I want you to cut long story short...
what stops you from defining angel 'on this thread, why elsewhere, why not respect people on the thread by willingly define it, until i lifted it from other tread where you had contradicting opinion on your defination?

Was the world subjected to angel? Yes or no.

Is Satan a messenger?
you admit that satan is an angel

benalvino(m):
Lol frosbel please also permit him to use the toilet... Very funny...

Angels are of different classes like saraphims, archangel.. So which etc.

now U and I know Satan is a angel...
see your defination below;

benalvino: [size=18pt]malak:[/size] a messenger
Original Word: מַלְאָך
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: malak
Phonetic Spelling: (mal-awk')
[size=18pt]Short Definition: angel[/size]

messenger! ok? so the issue of messenger is solved in your defination!


bolded above in your post



benalvino(m)[/b]So the question is who is Satan a messenger to?
[b]the point needed is answered in your defination! the issue of who satan is messenger to is out of this! you can create a thread for that, but at least for now, i have establish satan, and angels using your own defination that he is a messenger.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE: 10:15am On Aug 26, 2013
[quote author=benalvino]
Hahahaha... Maybe you can't answer the simple yes or no question. Just answer it let the argument close.
i have given detail answer up there, scrol up


you will need to realize that the angels are what they are regardless of them being messengers or not...
this is the reason you don't want to answer if Satan is a messenger or not...
according to where? your opinion? you think we are here to swallow what you just opined? common, show a bible principle that says that, and not what you jush gush out

let me see... Satan a created angel a messenger of God... turns rebellious and now he is not a messenger to God and not a messenger to any thing i know of... yet he never stops being an angel.
CBB, Confussion break bones huh huh huh

this will show you that the word angel means two things one it is their nature... two it is a messenger.
in your confused state, you forced an opinion outside the bible and even your own defination,

aggelos: an angel, [size=18pt]messenger[/size]
Original Word: ἄγγελος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: aggelos
Phonetic Spelling: (ang'-el-os)
Short Definition: an angel, [size=18pt]messenger[/size]

that is why i told you it is not the same and you did what you do best to misunderstand me, thinking i was talking on how the words malawk and aggellos sound differently.
in your confused state you opined, [/b]but [b]the written defination was clear and even bold enough without using big lenses grin grin grin

when humans like a prophet dies... they don't become an angel. yes their spirit goes to God but angels are a spiritual nature of servants.

our nature is Adam or human in English we can also be messengers which means angels... the question you have to ask is did God create us as angels or humans? or we are referred to be angels because angel means messenger?
according to the book of benalvino, not the bible!


i hope you get where am coming from...
the quote below is a statement you made so i want you to cut long story short... according to you jesus is an archangel because he came with the voice of an archangel
we are still on the defination of angels, you will learn to keep stages in arguments, ok?

"the statement Jesus as an archangel him self will use the voice of an archangel"
this is like saying truthislight will use the voice of truthislight... it doesnt make sense at all. if you a man then use the voice of a girl it makes sense.

1 Thessalonians 4:16 (kjv)

For [size=14pt]the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel[/size],

the lord himself will use the voice of the archangel means he is not the archangel.

bernimoor himself will use the voice of truthislight. does it makes you truth is light?
if you will conclude jesus is michael the archangel you have to conclude that he is GOD too... as you can say the Bernimoor cuts the text in half so that he can deceive... he refuse to add [size=18pt]"and with the trumpet of God"[/size]
if Jesus comes with the trumpet of God that means he is God too... he was trying to hide this so he cut some text out of the verse

https://www.nairaland.com/1318212/firstborn-does-it-mean-first/27#16721665
this is from another thread, a disrespect to others following, you want to jump stages, i hope you dont do this in banks, how do you cope with those embarrasements? irrelevant post for now, i have other verses to show on that, but let us first establish duly the defination of angels,using the bible and not your opinion ok?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by BERNIMOORE:
benalvino: Hahahaha sign of respect... You are still funny. Because you are pretending... The first time you post a link from my thread you didn't ask for permission.

So which one is worst to ask and do it without getting permission from oga frosbel or you dont ask but you do it?
Did i ever post a nairaland link on your thread? or a link about a previous discussion on some issues no!, thats what im talking about

the link i posted on your thread demand surprise, as it expose your DUBBING of someone else work WORD FOR WORD and you even went ahead to remove the name of the author and pose it as yours. and i showed you, i wouldnt want to inform you so that you adjust.

Benalvino: saraphims are not messengers they are care takers of God's throne..
is it according to Benalvino, or according to the bible, because in benalvino's opinion,saraphims are not messengers

benalvino, i knew you are only acting based on the extent you know, yet you want to remain STANGNANT, who told you that the duty of seraphims is limited only to Gods throne?

isaiah was sent a seraphim, the seraphim went to the alter, use tongs to pick a live coal, and also with a message from God

[size=14pt]6 Then one of the seraphim flew to me with a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with tongs from the altar. [/size]7 With it he touched my mouth and said, “See, this has touched your lips; your guilt is taken away and your sin atoned for.”

[size=14pt]the seraphim here no doubt carried on an assignment designated for him as a messenger

[/size]
Again I have define angel for you else where I want you to cut long story short...
what stops you from defining angel 'on this thread, why elsewhere, why not respect people on the thread by willingly define it, until i lifted it from other tread where you had contradicting opinion on your defination?
Was the world subjected to angel? Yes or no.

Is Satan a messenger?
you admit that satan is an angel

benalvino(m):
Lol frosbel please also permit him to use the toilet... Very funny...

Angels are of different classes like saraphims, archangel.. So which etc.

now U and I know Satan is a angel...
see your defination below;

benalvino: [size=18pt]malak:[/size] a messenger
Original Word: מַלְאָך
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: malak
Phonetic Spelling: (mal-awk')
[size=18pt]Short Definition: angel[/size]

messenger! ok? so the issue of messenger is solved in your defination!


bolded above in your post



benalvino(m)[/b]So the question is who is Satan a messenger to?
[b]the point needed is answered in your defination! the issue of who satan is messenger to is out of this! you can create a thread for that, but at least for now, i have establish satan, and angels using your own defination that he is a messenger.


Again you thought I contradict my self but nope... The word Malawk has 2 translation... There are many words like that in the bible Hebrew or Greek.
where are the two translations?

and show me the first translations you are talking about? which is the primary translation! im waiting
look up messenger and angel to understand.

[size=14pt]you can see i have answered all your question!
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