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@ Gabbysky

pls, permit me exchange e-mails with you, i only need some info on Education expecially in UNISA, i saw you post in the education tread but need some explanations pls, my mail ; barnabas_oba@yahoo.com or abas_oba@yahoo.com, thanks.

@dippset

o! reminds you of van persie's phantom yellow card hun!! but it doesnt remind you of messi's disallowed very very correct goal in the first leg? it doesnt remind you of abidal's wrongful dismissal against chelsea? it doesnt remind you of milito's 5 yard off side goal against inter? it doesnt remind you of bojan's wrongly disallowed goal against inter?

it seems like a short memory problem! or maybe SELECTED MEMORY case! what a virus!

you can pls reply to any of A1-A5 above!

[size=14pt](A3)As our Creator, God is in a position to correct the defect that causes humans to grow old and die.[/size]

but not like the way a tiny brain like buzugee a co atheists thinks, but this way:

[size=14pt](A4)Since that defect was inherited from the first man, Adam, God has provided as a ransom sacrifice the perfect human life of his Son, Jesus Christ, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. – John 3:16.[/size]

[size=14pt](A5)Jesus Christ thus replaces the original Adam as our father, or life-giver. That is why in the Bible Jesus is called the last Adam. So instead of being condemned to die as children of the sinner Adam, obedient humans may be reckoned worthy to receive everlasting life as children of their “Eternal Father” Jesus Christ. [/size]

@buzugee

bolded below,

AND FOR THOSE WHO DONT BELIEVE THE BIBLE. I WILL MAKE 3 CASE SCENARIOS OF WHAT THE BIBLE PREDICTED AND HAPPENED.

CASE 1. GENESIS 6 VS 3. the lord appointed every man to live 120 years. of course if you dont get to this age then it is something that you did wrong but you have 120 years potential in you.

you have lied, you have distorted facts, and you have made a misrepresentantion of an intention distorted!

how? see below;
buzugee;

of course if you dont get to this age then it is something that you did wrong but you have 120 years potential in you

that you buzugee tried to change the assertion in Gen 6:3 to suit you distorted views to as to back your concocted statements, but know this;

the word omniscient and omnipotent are not a bible concepts, and can never be found in the bible, and i dont share what the bible does not contain (perceptions) but then God is powerful, and has great knowledge, but we should not fix his 'extents' because he chooses those extents as he wants!

see this below;

God did not destined man to live only for 120 yrs, but you(buzugee) choose 'that particular sentence' out of context of a special situation when God was in an event of 'punishing humans because of disobedience'

lets read Gen 6 1-3

1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

note that Gods original purpose was NOT for 'his sons' angels to have an intimate affair with humans, because they are part of the heavenly hosts and are meant to remainn in their originanal form as 'ministers in flames of fire' hebrews 1:5-7

it was only after mans disobedience that verse 3 below was pronounced 'not as an original purpose for man, but as an ALTERNATIVE,AND AS A PUNISHMENT, read pls;

3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

At the beginning of human history, God revealed that man was made,[size=16pt](A1) not to live a few years and then die, but to live forever. God put the first human couple in an earthly paradise. And they were instructed to be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it. God’s purpose was to have, in the course of time, the entire earth inhabited by a righteous human family living together in peace and happiness. – Isaiah 45:18.[/size]
)Although a death sentence was imposed on Adam because of his disobedience,[size=14pt] (A2) God’s original purpose for humans to live forever in Paradise on earth did not change. God showed that his purpose had not changed regarding the earth when he said: “The righteous themselves will possess the earth, and they will reside forever upon it.” – Psalms 37:29[/size].

dispute this and we fire on!

@flashadrin

You are confused!

how?

you are making a wrong case!

how!

see below;

you defended buzugee below;

I dont believe what this buzugee is saying atall! I really need genuine opinions/answers. Where are the christians now??

but see his replies that contradict yours; read his bolded below;

buzugee replies;

but everything i have said, i have backed with bible passages. now the question is, do you believe the bible is real or not ? do you believe God exists ? if the answer to those 2 questions is 'yes', then surely you must agree with what i have said because i have backed it with biblical passages. however if the answer to those 2 questions is 'no'. then i can understand why you think i am making stuff up. it all depends on if you believe in God or not.

buzugee is an atheist like yourself(flashadrin)! is a statement of fact!isn'nt it?

@Advocate666

You stopped making sense, but what did I expect? You are a christian afterall.

i expect you to prove me wrong having expose your misrepresentations of the bible, my joy is that i exposed how you want to portray bible as referring to earth sitting on elephants with 4 legs, but rather,the bible actually refer to earth as circle/globe. and i have proved how the use of globe is not metaphorial in un the usage! now you are talking of making sense or not, i will be glad to make sense to the majority rather than few with self infected virus preventing them to have 'a true sense'

@Affiliated

^ I don't see what all the long story has to do with the issue at hand which is slave trade.

sorry, you need to be patient with stories,as you call it...we cant just jump exegical holes of 'how' and 'what' culminate into slaving,and jumping into what you termed as encouraging it, i have just laid some foundations neccesary in that discussion so as to tackle it from the root.
ok, you dont want us to tackle it from the roots, as you can see, i tackle issues from their bases and that makes me sustain my argument!

are you saying that God should have stopped the act of slaving right from the time of isrealites?
then, you need to know that 'he allows that for reasons'.

Are you saying science isn't knowledge or the state of knowing?

knowing through 'testing' and not just 'a state' and this it was started and championed by someone

im only considering an a more detailed meaning from WIKIPEDIA
(from Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge" is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe.


science involves testable explanations and predictions, and so,

[quote author=Affiliated]Welcome back



@Affiliated

I don't know how slave trade started but it is in the records of the bible that God encouraged it and supported it thereby enabling the act of slave trading to grow

You need to know what culminated into why God choose to be unaffected by the activities of other nations then outside isreal 'his people'

you need to know something very vital here, that constitutes the way we are beign treated by God, and that is 'our free will to choose as humans'

God demands for our exclusive devotion as our creator! thus he creates pattern for how we should worship him and warned agaisnt worshiping other gods,

yes you will ask me that isn'nt he Omniscient Omnipotent and so on? but my answer to this is that Omniscient Omnipotent and the rest ARE NOT BIBLES CONCEPTS! yes, God is the most powerful, but how he displays it,i rely to the extent that the bible provided! or he being ? i dont share the term Omnipotent!....due to its not bible term.

yes, God is all knowing, 'but the extent he uses that knowledge' omniscient, i dont know, and will only agree with the bible extents on that.

and so, i will restrict my comment to 'what the bible says and the terms surported by the bible, in orderwords, i will approach the issue the jehovahs witnesses way! im not one of them,but convinced with their belief, and so, i will not like to join issues with any other christians that dont share the jehovahs witnesses view on this issue, let every one be on his own!

the story was from the garden of eden, a cherubim created by God with a freewill to choose, and not as robots, choose to have glory belonging to God to himself. he schemed plans to seduce Gods creations, starting from the weakest, woman 'eve' God allows time to pass so as to heal the wounds created by this disobedient angel called satan, this angel in revelation 12:9 is been thrown out of heaven now to the earth but HE only got few times to live!

now, this satan influenced worships that God hated from the onset, but to solve the problem God needs to be patient with time, so the idol worshipers or people worshiping other gods during isrealites now should learn to be more carefull withtheir works, God does not desire sin here pls.

A brief dictionary definition of science is 1 : the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding [Merriam-Webster]

you are joking, see the defination wiki-below

cience (from Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge" is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe.[1] In an older and closely related meaning (found, for example, in Aristotle), "science" refers to the body of reliable knowledge itself, of the type that can be logically and rationally explained (see History and philosophy below).[2] Since classical antiquity science as a type of knowledge was closely linked to philosophy. In the early modern era the words "science" and "philosophy" were sometimes used interchangeably in the English language.[citation needed] By the 17th century, natural philosophy (which is today called "natural science" was considered a separate branch of philosophy.[3] However, "science" continued to be used in a broad sense denoting reliable knowledge about a topic, in the same way it is still used in modern terms such as library science or political science.
In modern use, "science" more often refers to a way of pursuing knowledge, not only the knowledge itself. It is "often treated as synonymous with 'natural and physical science', and thus restricted to those branches of study that relate to the phenomena of the material universe and their laws, sometimes with implied exclusion of pure mathematics. This is now the dominant sense in ordinary use

@Advocate666
i have treated this question before, but i will still treat it as if im replying someone with impared judgement,

First, Bible concepts has its answers around itself! for example;

how do you know that the globe mentinned in your bible was not metaphorical?

why 'globe' here is not metaphor;
isaiah 40:22
It is he that sitteth upon the globe of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts:
inhabitants (plenty as locusts) relates directly with the earth,and subject to a ruler; refered to as 'he'

but see what you quoted below;


1 Samuel 2:8

8 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the Lord's, and he hath set the world upon them.

'the poor out of the dust' is metaphor because the dust 'directly used here is not real dust' same with 'the beggar from the dunghill' paralleled with 'pillars of the earth are the Lord's, and he hath set the world upon them'

world upon them is metaphor. it should have been 'the earth upon the pillars'

or can you briefly give us the meaning of earth and world for more clarification!

@Affiliated,
im back from work now,i left few minutes after my answer to advocate666's post on so called pillars that the bible verse he quoted 'never mentioned'

and now i will treat the coded below;

(1b) explain how God supporting and encouraging slave trade isn't evil and backwards. God knows its evil which is why God said Israel shouldn't take slaves from themselves.

let me get you right pls, are you saying that God originated slave trade from the onset? pls explain in detail!



(2b)God is racist and this was one of the justification Britain used when hey attacked our ancestors and made slaves of them while subjecting them to inhumane treatment.

are you also saying that God is responsible for what you termed as '' making slaves of our ancestors while subjecting them to inhumane treatment''?.

and lastly, can you briefly define what you understand as 'science' in brief?

@Advocate666

If it contradicts what it is saying, call it metaphor.

you see your life! you have now change your gear to contracdiction! why dont you prove me wrong! you dont know anything about the bible but stupidly you quote it to suit your misrepresentation and when i expose it,you jump to another accusation, Olodo broda-agbaya!

can you prove me wrong that my replies to your claims are not true? you simply lack what bible teaches yet, i have proven its authenticity over so-called science here, you kept mum throughout,ole! onyi-oshi!

Not only was the bible advocating a flat earth, in fact it says that it has foundations made of pillars and does not move. It is unequivocal about it.

@Advocate666

Advocate of misrepresentations

after answering your first question,as ungratefull as you are bent in misrepresentation,do you aknowledge that you erred in that book of job? you lacked respect and courtesy, anyway let me show you this again;

misrepresentation no (1) pillars not mentioned;

Job 38:4

4 “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.

metaphorial use of words in parallel with 'the poor' 'the beggar' so also 'pillars of earth' are all metaphorial;

1 Samuel 2:8

8 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the Lord's, and he hath set the world upon them.

Psalm 93:1

1 The Lord reigns, he is robed in majesty;
the Lord is robed in majesty
and is armed with strength.
The world is firmly established;
it cannot be moved.


These definitions do not fit with a rotating spherical rock.

The world is firmly established here means 'not create it in vain' 'but to be inhabited forever by humans' and not 'firm' as in something that cannot rotate; see more on that below;

Isaiah 45:18
New King James Version (NKJV)
18 For thus says the Lord,
Who created the heavens,
Who is God,
Who formed the earth and made it,
Who has established it,
Who did not create it in vain,
Who formed it to be inhabited:
“I am the Lord, and there is no other.

Notice I didn't say the bible was wrong. I already know that a sphere can be viewed as a circle. [Refer to image of earth below].

good, im not trying to win argument either, but to let us fairly consider things bible says, and how credible it is or not!

The bible isn't wrong in these claims but it isn't accurate either. And its even worse for a supposed perfect book

it depends on what you refer to as accuraccy, we believed that we are not the only thing that God created and yet he cares to give a hint of truth and not put us in darkness as found in the bible, we as christians too make sure that we work by digging out corresponding truths to compliment,the way archeologists do! i personally dont expect everything to be perfect, but at least near-perfect!

Affiliated: The first image is a circle. The second image is a sphere. Let's take it back to elementary education.

I hope you understand the difference now

there is no way you will ever draw this objects you posted without drawing a circle(1)primarily, and can be used to form (b)its secondary usages, true or false, moreover a 'globe' was actually used in the bible, so you have no (exclusive point;unchallenged point here) to prove flatness here!

Thank you. Maybe that's what I should have done since as these guys have no idea what a circle is no matter how much I tried to explain it to them

the problem you guys have is insincerity and inpatience!

ijawkid raise this question since but you guys dodge it, see it popping up again,

ijawkid:logicboy

Oya just open one verse of the bible that says the earth is flat...the scriptures have proven long ago before science was born that the earth is circular.......the fact is if you agree it would make you drop all your false claims that the bible is spurious..........that is why atheist like your type would keep implying rubbish to isaiah 40:22 to keep your Godless brains going.

before you accuse bible by making a case for flatness, you should have your proofs that actually mention 'flat' in the bible and not juxtapose using your own literal translations, thats pure insincere! if we go to court with this claim, your innability to show the word 'flat' but relying on my circle/globe actually found in the bible will knock your case off! and thats due to hasty accusations by you!

BERNIMOORE The fact that I can't see the gravity doesn't mean it doesn't exist. From your logic God doesn't exist because I can't see God.

dont change issues here, you are jumping exegical holes!, you are now smuggling a case for existence now to muddle things up, na ojoro we dey call that one,eh be carefull, one by one; job was talking from from 'vision'(at least you do dream) and could not see phisical things holding the earth! has that not knocked you off?

bolded above you admitted that you cant see gravity, and that is a credit to job who wrote this more than 2000 yrs before your so called science! are you not enjoying being exposed to new learnings that you have been evading over years?

If you are done please(1b) explain how God supporting and encouraging slave trade isn't evil and backwards. God knows its evil which is why God said Israel shouldn't take slaves from themselves.(2b)God is racist and this was one of the justification Britain used when hey attacked our ancestors and made slaves of them while subjecting them to inhumane treatment.

dont divert issues yet, i will treat that dully(i have coded it 1b and 2b respectively, and noted) i have the answers!

and since you admit that 'you cannot see gravity, just thats the way job saw 'nothing in the vision' ok? you are defeated in this ore!

@advocate666

you dont needd to cover a part of context in the bible to give wrong meaning to the 'part of same context' so as to discredit the bible, its called 'misrepresentation,

here is it; from verse 12 it was a question to job;

job 38:12-13

12 “Have you commanded the morning since your days began
13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth,
[b]And the wicked be shaken out of i[/b]t?

the good thing about the bible is that 'it interpretes itself' and like law, or constitutions, its easy to reconcile, but to mischievous atheists, they jump to myopic conclusion to their own stupidity;

the greek word used here(ends of)(*because the NT of the bible was translated originally from greek/aramaic manuscripts)

כּנף

kânâph

kaw-nawf'

[size=14pt] an edge or extremity[/size]

the same book of job gave us a hint as to 'the extent of' what is meant here;

job 37:3 He directs it under the whole heaven, [size=14pt]and his lightning unto the ends of the earth[/size].

now put your biased mind aside and reason in reconciliation the way job put it;

(a)that is he was reffering to 'ends/edges/extremities created due to light' as far as light enables you to see.
(2) this is also related to the wicked in same verse 13 you quoted, that is, there is no hiding place for the wicked!

biased mind cannot see this truth!



@Affiliated

when job says earth is hung upon nothing,you are claiming a visible gravity below;

And the earth isn't hung on nothing as Job claimed. It is held in it's orbit by the sun's gravity

can you see the gravity? if no, then why cant you give credit to the bible on that!
[size=14pt]water circle explained in the bible before science;[/size]

Job 26:7-10

7 He stretches out the north over empty space;
He hangs the earth on nothing.
8 He binds up the water in His thick clouds,
Yet the clouds are not broken under it.

are you pained now that bible is not really what you insinuate? be fair pls

You picked the one dubious translation that helped your argument?


Mtchew....

logicboy olodo-rabata-oju-eja-lomooje, aint you sleeping? you must be snorring by now, and pls dont be much of a nuisance even when at sleep.

Out of 17 translations below only one says globe. They almost all say circle. I like the international standard version though, it says disk which conveys the idea of flatness. King James is over 4 centuries old compared to your rogue translation.
I'll get to the Paul Vs. Jesus issue later today when I awake.

out of all translations, you could not get just one that directly says 'flat'? so as to help your argument that bible says earth is flat? but circle/globe thats a great credit to the bible! vs so called science

Lol. I gave you a literal word for word translation and it stated circle and not globe. Circle implies flat. I never claimed "the bible said the earth is flat" I said circle implies flat and the bible implied it by using circle rather than sphere. Why do you just want to argue blindly when you think you are losing the subject matter argument?

i dont need to rely on your literal translation because it is misleading and a calculated attempt to rubbish the bible, i knew that danger before i gave you the bible translation that knocked all your insinuations as to flatness or no flatness as the word 'GLOBE' was used by the bible here;

isaiah 40:22

Douay-Rheims Bible 1899
It is he that sitteth[size=14pt] upon the globe of the earth[/size], and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts: he that stretcheth out the heavens as nothing, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.

globe of the earth cant be flat!ok? can you see the authenticity of the bible against science?


1899 is more than a century ago! bros u no gbadun my argument? i mean una well well o, if you fit oya now!

OK. I see you are trying to digress. Anyway Paul and Jesus were saying totally different things.

there is no contradiction here, pau; is a lawyer, so there has to be an amalgamation here, what you quoted in mathew is no way repugnant to the collosian quotes!

I'll be going to bed now. If you want to get back to the discussion maybe you can sleep and think over it.

nothing to think over here, im always ready ok?

The 4 points of discourse that is. I'll assume the first point is over even though you didn't give any reason as to why it isn't wicked and backwards, we can continue from the second point tomorrow. Goodnight

ok,(a) like i have earlier said 'law was giving so that sin can be defined' in bk of galatians quoted above!
(b) God is not wicked because 'he warned them earlier' it was not as if they are not aware, but a deliberate act of disobedience will not go unpunished as a detriment to others, see how his warning sounds;


Deuteronomy 11:26-29
26 [size=14pt]See, I am setting before you today a blessing and a curse— 27 the blessing if you obey the commands of the Lord your God that I am giving you today; 28 the curse if you disobey the commands of the Lord your God and turn from the way that I command you today by following other gods, which you have not known[/size].

so, many atheist potrays God as wicked by covering his warnings and only talking about his disciplines.

even as a citizen of any country, if you disobey rules and regulations are you not going to be punished, if you carry drug to some country its death penalty straight, so instead why not on your own take it as a responsibility to do the right thing before you are flogged?

see what this book says

proverbs 26:3;

[size=14pt] A whip for the horse, a bridle for the donkey,
and a rod for the backs of fools![/size]

i dont think reasonable people will like to be like these horse and donkey above!

Anyway this circle/globe issue is beside the point. Unless you are trying to digress because you are afraid to admit you are out of points

see youself now, instead of admitting your error and that you are shocked that the bible actually used globe/ or sitting on the circle of the earth agaist your claim that bible says the earth is flat, a claim that many who dont read the bible will just believe, you are here talking of afraid, who is afraid between me and you now, because i will continue to supply proofs till you are done, ok? dont take genuine christians for a joke, the bible facts has won you here, it really mention 'Globe' befoer a so called science!confirmed statement of fact!

^Valid points. So in essence, in this dispensation the law is backwards?

that your own word, and not my consent!

Jesus speaks Matthew 5:17

17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Has heaven and earth disappeared?

jesus did not come to abolish or totally remove or outrightly opened us up into a state of no control, that is what abolish means, if you read my post again, 'why the law' it is to make 'sin' manifest, that is what constitutes sin was to be defined! colossian 2:14 below gave us an interpretation that sumarises jesus purpose on law;

colosians 2:14
"[size=14pt]having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross".[/size]

Modified based on your modified post...

Sadaam Hussein was sentenced to death by the Iraqi special tribunal. No U.S soldier was present during the execution.

you seem to be economical about truth here, but you did not deny why more than 2000 US soldiers died there and for what cause?

Also churches are the supposed body of Christ on earth. therefore their actions represent the actions of God so they can't be left out of it

churches cant be left out of what? shed more light pls

see one of the oldest bible translations,
isaiah 40:22

Douay-Rheims Bible 1899
It is he that sitteth [size=14pt]upon the globe of the earth[/size], and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts: he that stretcheth out the heavens as nothing, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.

globe of the earth cant be flat!ok?

As regards the stoning part. So if I understand you clearly, kill the person before the person has the chance to commit the sin? OK. even if that's what should be done [God has never done that] then can it be done in this present age? And would churches condone people stoning their children to death for the reason above? If not, its backwards

let me answer you with the bible,

Purpose of the Law

Galatians 3:19-21
19 What purpose then does the law serve? It was [size=14pt]added because of transgressions(sin)[/size], till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator does not mediate for one only, but God is one.

what constitutes sin was to be stamped out, hence the law! there must be a high standard of living among Gods people, as obedient ones

21 Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law. 22 But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that [size=14pt]the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe[/size]. 23[size=14pt] But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed.[/size]

And would churches condone people stoning their children to death for the reason above? If not, its backwards

leave churches out of this first, Saddam hussein, why was he hung by the George Bush americans? after US has lost more than 2000 soldeirs? why not allow him to serve prison sentence? i think thats way forward too! is it not?

Let's divert from what you were explaining for now. We'll get back to it later. Do you know the difference between a circle and a sphere? In order to save time, I'll tell you in layman's term. A circle is 2D [Flat] A sphere is 3D. [Has Volume. Isn't flat]

you have lost this argument, because if it was 'a flat round' it would not have been reported as sitting a above the circle of the earth, and another blow to your claim was that,nothing like flat was mentioned to describe the earth in that bible verse, but flat was formulated by 'you' and haters of the bible who never took their time to realy know what bible contained and teaches!

Go on. Explain the four points before I comment

i see that some innexperieced christians played to your strenght by muddling up issues, so we have to 'joint adress this one by one'

here is my first point adressed; comment pls

1. Stoning disobedient children [Deuteronomy 21:18-21]

"If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death."

fistly, how is this 'a backward thing' instead of curbing a problem from the onset, you allow it to grow,eh, and that is 'way forward' lets take the issue of the boy that opened fire on 24 youngsters like himself by shortening their life or, abdulmutalab a nigerian that wanted to kill many americans in a plane but apprehended, had it been that the authorities did something to abdulmutalab by arresting him when his parent report him,he wouldnot have gone that far. or the boy that shortens the life of youngsters like himself would have being curbed.

so how is dealing with that situation the deutronomy 21 way a way backward, when the so called way forward is defect? those killed cant beretrieved, use you sense pls.

educate us pls!

@affiliated

The belief in that period was the earth was flat and roundish. Circular.

do you know the implication of what you have just done above? by now adding roundish or cicular? thats being mischevious, dont be a fool!

isiah 40:22 was not talking about roundish flat, infact nothing like flat was mentioned here, but concocted lies from manmustwac/Affiliated, and this is it again isiah 40:22; "It is He who[size=14pt] sits above the circle of the earth[/size]",

not inside a round circle of earth, but above the circle, like sitting on a ball!

@ffiliated

mazaje was making a case for being backward,faulting Gods arrangement as wicked, now you have helped us to quote the verses in full, thanks for that as we shall treat them one by one
mazaje:

(1)The same bible also says that people should stone to death their disobedient children,(2) kill those that worship other gods,(3) tells people to enslave each other, and says that rapistss should marry the women they rapeee. . .How is that not a backward thing?

Affiliated;

[quote]1. Stoning disobedient children [Deuteronomy 21:18-21]

[b]"If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, [/b]19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death."

fistly, how is this 'a backward thing' instead of curbing a problem from the onset, you allow it to grow,eh, and that is 'way forward' lets take the issue of the boy that opened fire on 24 youngsters like himself by shortening their life or, abdulmutalab a nigerian that wanted to kill many americans in a plane but apprehended, had it been that the authorities did something to abdulmutalab by arresting him when his parent report him,he wouldnot have gone that far. or the boy that shortens the life of youngsters like himself would have being curbed.

so how is dealing with that situation the deutronomy 21 way a way backward, when the so called way forward is defect? those killed cant beretrieved, use you sense pls.

advocate666

Why don't you start providing proofs for yours and stop being what igbos call ...Ehi ara, Ewu Yoruba, nwa Mgbati Mgbati. Ezi ofia.

Ewu Yoruba, nwa Mgbati Mgbati. Ezi ofia is even better, what of ofeluugu, yanmirin!(give me water) i can still see the kwashiokor belly that ojukwu biafran war turns your igbo yammirin to,have you watch the video? during Gowon rulership on Nigeria, onyi-oshi, onyi-ara Ole-omo igbo, oloju-ko-ko-ko.

[b]Joshua 10:12-14

12 On the day the Lord gave the Amorites over to Israel, Joshua said to the Lord in the presence of Israel:
Advocate666

what has this below got to do with the claim that manmustwac says that the bible says that earth is not in circle? which i proved him wrong
your quote below is without direction

“Sun, stand still over Gibeon,
and you, moon, over the Valley of Aijalon.”
13 So the sun stood still,
and the moon stopped,
till the nation avenged itself on[a] its enemies,

as it is written in the Book of Jashar.

The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day. 14 There has never been a day like it before or since, a day when the Lord listened to a human being. Surely the Lord was fighting for Israel!

advocate666

I am an atheistic Satanist. What are you?

provide proofs for your claims and stop being what yoruba call...... Apa,and Oponu alaini-inu-ro.