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Getsports:
On Sunday, Lionel Messi could make his long-awaited debut for Paris Saint-Germain against Reims in Champagne country, but it is Kylian Mbappe who is the focus of all the attention right now since his destiny is still up in the air. �
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Getsports:
Sunday, Lionel Messi could make his long-awaited

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Nancy2020:
I think it both

different churches interpret revelation differently.

Bishopkingsley:
There is no place where I said God become or became a spirit

Rather God created a spiritual place for the host of heaven to stay and govern the earth

That spiritual place is called heaven

why then are there walls in the new earth.

Nancy2020:
Can prayers Make me a part of the elect

seek and you will find so yes it can.

Nancy2020:
do you believe in divine selection

well yes since God knows all things.

Nancy2020:
who do we blame then

I think it only by trusting God like they say if I perish I perish so long as I trust him.

Kobojunkie:
Another lie! God never said that !

Is it true that you don't believe all the Bible.

Bishopkingsley:
The Bible indicates that all three Persons of the Trinity were involved in Jesus’ resurrection

In Acts 2:24, Peter says that “God raised [Jesus] from the dead.” So that’s the basic answer. God resurrected Jesus. As we read more Scripture, that basic answer becomes more nuanced.

The Bible indicates that all three Persons of the Trinity were involved in Jesus’ resurrection. Galatians 1:1 says that the Father raised Jesus from the dead.

First Peter 3:18 says that the Spirit raised Jesus from the dead (see also Romans 1:4, and note that Romans 8:11 clearly says that God will resurrect believers “through His Spirit”).

And in John 2:19 Jesus predicts that He will raise Himself from the dead (see also John 10:18).

So, when we answer the question of who resurrected Jesus, we can say God did.

And by that we can mean it was
the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
(Trinity.)

Who resurrected Jesus from the dead? God did, and by that we mean all three Persons of the Trinity were involved. All three Persons of the Trinity participated in creation
(1 Corinthians 8:6; Genesis 1:1–2).

All three are involved in salvation (John 3:6, 16). And all three are responsible for the resurrection of Christ Jesus.

Jesus is God that why
Jesus said many times he will raise his body up again

It is clear that Jesus proved to have the power to resurrect Himself. It is clear that Jesus proved to have the power to resurrect Himself. Jesus said he is resurrection himself and he is life himself.

The Bible also proved that God the Father raised Jesus from the dead, (see Acts 5:30, Galatians 1:1 among others)

and that God’s Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead (Romans 8:11, 1 Peter, 3:18).

So we have all three persons of the Trinity involved in Jesus’ resurrection. Given the crucial aspect of the Resurrection to God’s plan, that is no surprise.

I never thought of this mystery before.

Did you say any evil thing before because no one comment on your post or believe in your words

Cabble4:
Oh this is just great! My assertion of, "YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT I KNOW"" does not in anyway confer superiority. There are things you know that I don't know and there are things I know that you don't know. Which is why we share knowledge.
*You concluding that I made a demeaning statement and immediately switched to paying Me back in My own coin suggests that, your Ego was touched and your Insecurities made their way out. These two guys(Ego and Insecurities) are NO FRIENDS TO THE CROSS. Even if I did all what you said I did, it doesn't serve as a justification for you to say all those things to Me. At least, if for anything, you should have maintained your composure and cautioned Me. This would have been the most admirable approach.(My apologies if I sound harsh or made you feel belittling. However, I owe you the truth to point out what I feel is appealing to the soul if I see a contrary view). We are all in this race and no one has arrived and certainly no one is an Island of Knowledge except God Almighty, which is why I always keep an opened Mind with scriptures as My guide. Thanks.

Statement
My apologies if I sound harsh or made you feel belittling

From the above only this sentence is what is pleasing to my eyes

Apologies accepted..

Cabble4:
*I think is outright and disgusting carnality to claim you sit on a higher level than I am when you are not God who is the Only One who can truly say who seats higher than the other. This is on a earthly perception.
*Now in Spiritual perception, I am seated in and with Christ. Christ is one with God and thus I am seated with God. This is the only PLACE and in this place there is no higher or lower level. In John:17, Christ prayed that, we should be one with the Father. I didn't in any of these verses saw where Christ asked the Father to place some higher than others.
*So My friend, check where you are seated, if it is higher than where(Christ) I am seated, then I am afraid you are seated in DEATH.

If you knew this things why then did you first puff up your self claiming you know more than me

It was when you began to Claim superior that I had to counter your thoughts because I am the son of the most high

I speak in tongues I know who I am

Cabble4:
*Oh you made ME laugh!!! Sit well in the realm you sit. Where I AM is fine for ME.
*Don't forget, Revelation itself is someOne.

Revelation is dependent on how deep God loves you so am on a higher level from you.

Cabble4:
*Oh sorry! It wasn't My intention. I was just making a harmless point.
*Firstly, I don't need to be puffed up! This is weird!
And secondly, I am not dragging levels with anyone. There is absolutely NO SPIRITUALITY IN THIS.
*Furthermore, I don't think you concerning yourself with levels could be of any "" WHORSHIP TO GOD""and you know what that means.
*Christ, said, before Abraham, I AM. They picked up stone to stone Him. I am merely saying the truth and you picked up stone to stone Me?
Abeg no vex!!! Is it not possible that you don't know what I know and I don't know what you know?

Ministry is about revelation what I have seen is more than what you have I boast in the lord am sitting at a higher realm.

Cabble4:
*You may NEED to do a Fine Research on "" WORSHIP TO GOD"".
And secondly,I admire your Love for God as it's His ONLY RESTING PLACE, and I will encourage you don't hold back no matter the situations around us. However, trust ME, I am certain, beyond reasonable doubt that, you don't know what I know. Please, no offence for this blunt assertion here. It has nothing to do with you. I know it gives room for misconceptions and flimsy assumptions about ME. But, IT IS WHAT IT IS.

I puffed you up by saying I know what you know and your head swell up no man you are not really my level in terms of Revelation.

22jumpstreet:
God is the one true living god. There is no part of him that dies. Amongst all the gods of the nations He alone is the Truth, and no other being possesses a truth similar to His Truth, even as the Torah says: There is none other like unto Him (Deut. 4.39), meaning, there is no other true being, besides Him, like unto Him…Jeremiah 10… 2So says the Lord: of the way of the nations you shall not learn, and from the signs of the heaven be not dismayed, for the nations are dismayed from them. JESUS WAS NAILED TO THE CROSS CORRECT? 4With silver and gold he beautifies it, with nails and with sledge hammers they strengthen them so that it does not bend. (This is your god… not the true living god as he is describing fake gods) 5Like a palm tree they are beaten, and they do not speak; they are carried for they do not step; fear them not for they will do no harm, neither is it in them to do good. HOW DOED ONE MOVE A STATUE OF JESUS? They carry it . 8But with one thing they are brutish and foolish, the vanities for which they will be punished are but wood. (10But the Lord God is true; He is a living God and the King of the world; from His anger the earth quakes, and the nations cannot contain His fury.) 11So shall you say to them, "The gods who did not make the heavens and the earth, shall perish from the earth and from beneath these heavens. Isiah 44:24 New International Version
“This is what the LORD says— your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb: I am the LORD, the Maker of all things, who stretches out the heavens, who spreads out the earth by myself,����� 12Who made the earth with His strength, He prepared the world by His wisdom, and with His understanding He stretched out the heavens. These are the Gods who do for them are false and they die because they are not God (the living god) Alone the true ability and the true judge whose power and leadership do not depend on another hand….A living god; whose life does not depend on another because his life is from him and all life other than their lives from him. But the Lord God is true Why? Because He is a living God and the King of the world. Therefore, He can make His words come true. A mortal person, however, plans to do something and dies or becomes weak or loses his property, and has no ability to execute his plans. The world is in his wisdom and they are the elements and their complexities and in his wisdom inclined to heaven, and since he made heaven and earth he is the true God and as God said truth and king of the world … The God who did not make the heavens and the earth will be lost from the earth …. will perish from earth and from below these heavens. 14Every man is brutish without knowledge; every smith is put to shame by his graven image, for his molten images are false, without spirit in them. 15They are vanity, a work of delusion; at the time of their visitation they shall perish. 25Pour out Your wrath upon the nations that do not know You and upon the families that have not called in Your name, for they have devoured Jacob and consumed him and destroyed him, and have wasted his dwelling.

Suggestion
God is the one true living god. There is no part of him that dies

Solution
To answer this question first
God exists as
The Father
The son
The holy spirit

Man exists or is made up of
Body
Soul
Spirit

Now God made man in his image devil came and killed that image

Let me ask you when you look at the mirror you see your image if example I come and I have the power to bring out that your image in the mirror and kill it what do you think will happen to the real you,,,,,,,,,,,,,
We all know it just a question of time the real you will equally die because the real you can't even see his image in the mirror again because that person killed it


That almost what happened between us and God
Now God manifest as the Father
God manifest as the son
God manifest as the holy spirit

The son is the express image of God so he is God bodily there by among the manifestation of God the son can give his life up and take the blame for what Adam did and swallow death for him to swallow death death has to kill him and he equally will kill death that is the only way to stop death which Adam brought to the human race

The death of Jesus is just for providing a way to kill death because death has been obeying God all this while the only time death sinned was when death killed the one who knew no sin once death did this act judgment was passed to it that why Jesus rose up from the grave

So God giving his life was to save us from death which only him can do

22jumpstreet:
Don't you think it is the "fallen creatures " prerogative to atone for his mistakes if he has a change of heart?

The answer is: No! 2 Peter 2: For if God spared not the angels that sinned, The next question is who did they sin against

Answer
They sinned against the holy spirit now what happens when you sin against the holy spirit Jesus explains it


Matthew 12:31 (ESV)
31 Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit has to do with accusing Jesus Christ of being demon-possessed instead of Spirit-filled. This particular type of blasphemy cannot be duplicated today.
The Pharisees were in a unique moment in history: they had the Law and the Prophets, they had the Holy Spirit stirring their hearts, they had the Son of God Himself standing right in front of them, and they saw with their own eyes the miracles He did.
Never before in the history of the world (and never since) had so much divine light been granted to men;
if anyone should have recognized Jesus for who He was, it was the Pharisees. Yet they chose defiance.

What is defiance it is open resistance; bold disobedience.

This is what the fallen angels did that their sin

Note when you sin this type of sin you can not be forgiven if you are a human or angel once you sin this sin you can't be forgiven in this world or in the spiritual world

Cabble4:
I never knew you could be this perceptive.

am only like that because I have gone to the spiritual realm and I know what you know you are a wise fellow but understand God is God who must be worshiped.

Dtruthspeaker:
As I said earlier, you do not know what "self righteousness" means.

And all I said is that I choose To Do and Obey The Will of the spirit as my Master.

self Righteousness is clearly stated in the Bible that what you brag about unless you are the one who don't know what it means. The will of the spirit.... The spirit here is it the holy spirit or your own spirit.

Dtruthspeaker:
It is wrong for you to say what I did not say, for all I wanted to say, I said up there and you got it and you responded to them to the best of your ability until you could not.

So you are the one who is saying what I did not say nor intended to say.



You have 2 powers and 2 Masters over you.

The evil in you confined to the flesh and The God in you confined to the spirit.

Therefore, from your choice the Master whom you love is revealed by the Will of Whom you have chosen to Obey.

And to think that it is Written weak "evil (flesh) bows down to the Stronger The Good (spirit)". Proverbs 14:19, yet the sons of men say and think that the weak flesh can not be overcome when the Undisputable Winner between the 2 Masters is Very Clear.

You are all just making invalid excuses and are therefore without excuse.

funny to say...... yet the sons of men say and think that the weak flesh can not be overcome...... As long as you keep pointing to yourself as the one who overcome your weak flesh.
You are still under the power of the self Righteousness. I told you scriptures calls it idolatry, when man thinks he is God of himself.
It is very funny to quote proverbs to justify it I can show you good reasons to be a thief from the Bible. Nothing you want to preach that you can't see back up from the Bible. The only way to get the divine direction is to let other verse explain other verse if not you end up becoming filled with pride. That why Paul was given a torn on his flesh to humble him and remind him he is actually human and not God because the revelation he gets from God was beyond other apostles. With all your so called strength why do you think you and I will end up dieing because flesh can't inherit the word of God. No matter how you want to put your self as the one who obeys God word by your self.
You end up currupting your heart and soul your heart becomes puffed up while your soul refuses to obey what God says it is.
If the law or the physical strength can save you the death of Jesus is in vain.
Continue to lie to your self as we watch your heart which is desperately wicked on it own just as God said.

Dtruthspeaker:
Do people want God?

No, they do not.

So, they never intended to Listen to Him nor Obey Him. They wish to make their own way for themselves.

So it has nothing to do with their strength for anything they set their hearts to, they pursued it skillfully and intelligently, eg Women, men, sex, cars, money, husbands and wives snatching etc.

But when it comes to the pursuit of God, they become powerless, weak and full of excuses exactly the same thing they do with things they never wanted to do eg work, diligent research, upholding agreements etc.

So, they were never with God in the first place not to talk of them departing from Him as Israel and Solomon did.



I did not forget anything because i see Christ is The Law and The Law came out from God's Mouth and by John 1, Christ Came out from God's Mouth.

So I think we can give it a rest here for this is a case of to each his own.

what your saying is God (Jesus) coming to earth and discovering it by himself even though he knew about it yet he physical found out that the spirit is actually willing to serve God but the flesh is really weak in doing it.

What you saying is Jesus is wrong on that part if strength can do it on it own.

Another person Paul cried out what I want to do I can not do it because my member war with me all the time who then can save me from this problem before he now thanked the lord Jesus for victory.

So he was wrong to declare strength actually failed.

Good let end it here because people reading it must look up to Jesus and get strength from him not looking up to themselves which is idolatry because man wants to rise above the thought of God thinking he is God on his own.

Never that way because the flesh pulls down one who thinks this way.

22jumpstreet:
What is calamity ? Give examples

What is evil? Give examples..

I on purpose left out the complete explanation of the thing we were talking about just to see what your actual idea is all about. Immediately you proved to me that you point even evil as God been in charge of it,which is wrong.

Some look at God as the one in charge of evil too just as you want to point out.

That is not how God actually wants us to see him he wants us to see him as the one who has a solution to the problem we created by our powerful free will which he gave us rather than blame him for even giving us the free will.

Evil originates not from God but from the fallen creature..... It is helpful, I think, to understand that sin is not itself a thing created. Sin is neither substance, being, spirit, nor matter. So it is technically not proper to think of sin as something that was created. Sin is simply a lack of moral perfection in a fallen creature. Fallen creatures themselves bear full responsibility for their sin. And all evil in the universe emanates from the sins of fallen creatures.

For example, Romans 5:12 says that death entered the world because of sin. Death, pain, disease, stress, exhaustion, calamity, and all the bad things that happen came as a result of the entrance of sin into the universe (see Genesis 3:14-24). All those evil effects of sin continue to work in the world and will be with us as long as sin is.

First Corinthians 10:13 promises us that God will not permit a greater trial than we can bear. And James 1:13 tells us that God will not tempt us with evil.

God is certainly sovereign over evil. There's a sense in which it is proper even to say that evil is part of His eternal decree but not from God . He planned for it. It did not take Him by surprise. It is not an interruption of His eternal plan, it equally not his perfect will. He declared the end from the beginning, and He is still working all things for His good pleasure (Isaiah 46:9-10).

But God's role with regard to evil is never as its author. He simply permits evil agents to work, then overrules evil for His own wise and holy ends. Ultimately He is able to make all things-including all the fruits of all the evil of all time-work together for a greater good (Romans 8:28).

Dtruthspeaker:
Proverbs tells me several times, "MY SON, HEAR THE INSTRUCTION OF THY FATHER."

Do I not have power to hear?

He goes on to say "RECEIVE MY WORDS AND HIDE MY COMMANDMENTS WITH THEE"

Is this impossible to do?

"MY SON, FORGET NOT MY LAW; BUT LET THINE HEART KEEP (OBEY) MY COMMANDMENTS"

Do I not have the Power to keep remembering The Laws of God and exercise my power to carry them out?

Here is Another Power I use, "and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do."

The same Power you use to accomplish an evil purpose, is the same power you can use to obey The Instruction of The Lord, if you truly wanted to keep it.



It has already helped me for I dwell very well on every side.

So you can keep wasting your time and energy crying rather than carrying out The Instructions of God.

However it is very clear that

Evil Will Always Pursue the Sinner and the Wicked will Always Earn Troubles

That is why many people end up not believing in any God because they end up seeing strength failed in all aspects of God

Yes you read one part and you now forgot the vital part............

John 15:5
New International Version
“I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.

New Living Translation
“Yes, I am the vine; you are the branches. Those who remain in me, and I in them, will produce much fruit. For apart from me you can do nothing.

English Standard Version
I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.

Berean Study Bible
I am the vine and you are the branches. The one who remains in Me, and I in him, will bear much fruit. For apart from Me...........

Now what does nothing mean it means every nothing........ It means without Jesus you can not do anything

So this scripture is telling us those who did anything in the past their secrets was the son of God, then they called him the son of man
Because he was not yet revealed to the world

That is why God commands us to use scripture to explain scripture.

Cabble4:
Not to ME but you.

So what you are now saying is that
ideology of Adam, Eve, God & Satan really makes sense to you.

22jumpstreet:
It is God that determines everything...whatever is the will of God is what is will happen. ...

God is responsible for both good and evil...

No. Scripture says that when God finished His creation, He saw everything and declared it "very good" (Genesis 1:31). Many Scriptures affirm that God is not the author of evil: "God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone" (James 1:13). "God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all" (1 John 1:5). "God is not the author of confusion" (1 Corinthians 14:33)—and if that is true, He cannot in any way be the author of evil.

Occasionally someone will quote Isaiah 45:7 (KJV) and claim it proves God made evil as a part of His creation: "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things" (emphasis added).

But the New American Standard Bible gives the sense of Isaiah 45:6-7 more clearly: "There is no one besides Me. I am the Lord, and there is no other, the One forming light and creating darkness, causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the Lord who does all these." In other words, God devises calamity as a judgment for the wicked. But in no sense is He the author of evil, or responsible for evil.

Dtruthspeaker:
Ask them when you see them.

for the fact that you are afraid to admit that it not your own power that stopped the sin you said you put away that shows you still have sense. Now you don't want to admit it God power that gives holy life style and not self determination. The law can't help you it meant for you to cry out to God for help that where Jesus steps in.

Dtruthspeaker:
In my words "Fear God and Obey His Directions!"

Adam and eve did not fear God right.

Dtruthspeaker:
By the Power of Counting the people that would be wounded and must be harmed when I do any wicked thing after i had learnt of A Law which I did not know was out there which said

"The Tenets of The Law is To Live Honestly, To Harm No One and To Give to each His Due"

in other words the law is what keeps you Righteousness and your self determination.

Dtruthspeaker:
The mere fact you do not know what self righteousness means, is your bowl of garri. All I said and what I said, is what I said!

And I never said anything about owning any "righteousness"

Put Away your sins or Hold unto them, it's you who shall bear the reward thereof.

I never brought you into this discuss, you jumped in on your own, so jump out and continue in your own way.

As for me, I shall continue to follow The Way of The Commandments, the Statutes, the Judgements and Ordinances of God. Gbam!

which power do you use in putting away sin.

Bishopkingsley:
as long as you keep insisting on your self Righteousness acts then only God can redeem you since you refuse to be humble

Jesus taught us how to pray each day.... Forgive our trespassing as we forgive others..... To wake up each day Boasting I have no sin it shows how pride has taken hold of you lol

It shows your greed to want to be self perfect continue to rise in your self imagination

When you see people who claim to be holy run from them because they are mostly filled with anger in their hearts they pride themselves of being holy the law they claim to hold their is formality they think the law can save them that why they brag up and down even with their hearts full of iniquity. You see him say put away sin as if he have personal power to accomplish it lol.

Cabble4:
Oh KNOWLEDGE, where are Thou when I need you most?
Are you for Real or just pretending to be?
*Truly, people are Damaged for lack of Knowledge(Hosea:4:6).
*God will never tolerate one following Him ignorantly.
*During Jesus' teachings to His disciples, they asked Him questions where they don't understood and Jesus did exceptionally well by explaining to them. He never encouraged following Him ignorantly.
*You shall ""KNOW"" the truth and the truth you know, shall sets you free. In another word, "YOU SHALL REMAINED IN BONDAGE IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE TRUTH""
*We are enjoined by the very scriptures to study the word of God, get Wisdom, understanding and not walk blindly bro.
*How can you Be with someone you don't know? Is there any adjective to measure such level of foolishness?
*If, we have to follow blindly, why are the parables and interpretations, revelations and interpretations?
I will end by saying this, "Anything in the Bible that doesn't make sense could only mean 2things; Taken out of context or misinterpreted, because God is ALL KNOWLEDGE.
*

Then which area is
ideology of Adam, Eve, God & Satan not making any sense to you?

Acrobatics01:
Dear Betscoreodds,

I have addressed your comments.
Thanks

confused combined answers lol.

Nephilim:
Randy Dandy Mandy Pandy!

If you are a minister and you don't deal with that spirit called lust before you come to limelight, be sure it'll end you and your ministry.

very true