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ABlAstate:


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Owerri village estate agent, what's my business with Obiano, when I have my Abia state to worry about? At least Obiano built airport, stadium, ICC, roads, bridges, flyovers, etc, and Umu Ebonyi
and Imo indigenes are trooping there for greener pasture. That's how to know men from boys.

I am more concerned with the backward shithole owerri that Ozodigba has further destroyed from where okoroawusa stopped.

Please what's the condition of the glorified village called owerri?

Pictures: international conference centre Owerri

I knew when you were celebrating this hall back then. How far? [/s]

Igala village man, I heard they've declared your master Obiano wanted and he has gone into hiding. You were are you typing from, let me guess, from a hole

Both Uzodingba and Rochas are clowns, while Obiano is a drunkard, they're all in the same category of efulefus but Umahi is a great man

ABlAstate:
Owerri is a glorified village littered with bad roads and filthy environment. The only place in igboland comparable to Owerri is Aba

Pictures: Owerri

This Igala urchin has brought his nuisance value here again?!

Village man, if this government house was built by Obiano, you will keep saying world class, best in Africa, most beautiful in Nigeria

Obiano is still a boy compared to men like Umahi

habsydiamond:
[s]This is nice but not enough..... He did it to his taste since he will be using it.. How about the roads in that state are they all in good conditions. I was recently informed that potholes on the roads there can swallow a whole dangote truck and [/s]

Trash!!

I was virtually driven round Ebonyi State because women were protesting and blocked the highway at Amasiri and it afforded me to opportunity to see many parts of the state before arriving Abakiliki. The entire Ohaozara LGA has all its roads constructed with concrete, and I couldn't find a single dirt road or potholes!

Visit Abakiliki itself and you won't believe this is a state that receives the lowest allocations in Nigeria.

Umahi has proved that there is enough money to develop all states if only the governor can be visionary and passionate about developing his state.

I just love Umahi, no homo!

I was in Ebonyi State few days back and couldn't believe what I saw. This man has got taste and class!


The kind of infrastructure I saw in Ebonyi can't be found anywhere else in Igboland, and for a state that used to be least behind, it's indeed a wonder.

Posterity will forever judge him well. If only someone like Umahi can rule Imo State, Owerri will definitely be the most beautiful city in Nigeria!

EasternActivist:
Was it DIY!?

No, I went to their office.

EasternActivist:
N17200 32/5

Hmnn, the difference is so much. I renewed mine was asked to pay 65k.

FreeStuffsNG:
My point is that if his political structure can't win ordinary HOR election that held in his village and neighbouring villages ,as recent as March this year , what then is the electoral value he wants to deploy to win a nationwide election? Remember that he ruled that state for 8 solid years, this is not 1999 and even PMB got to that seat because he could add his electoral value to that of Asiwaju Tinubu in the SW and some parts of SS then.

So is OUK not overrated and overrating himself.

If you are a political party, why gamble away your chance when you have an HE Atiku, who is firmly on ground in Adamawa or an Asiwaju Tinubu who despite IPOB terrorists attack on his political and business interests, still won a landslide election few days after EndSars protests and while outside Nigeria.

How old are you? I mean no offense but just to understand where your ignorance is emanating from.

Obasanjo came out of prison prior to the PDP primaries in 1998, totally broke. Yet he defeated Alex Ekwueme who formed PDP alongside the G34. You think it was because of Obasanjo's popularity or political savviness? Nope, the North wanted him!

Also, have you forgotten that Obasanjo won the presidency even despite losing his own state and other Yoruba states?

Yet you're asking about Orji Kalu's popularity in Abia State?

Hmnn, this country self, so Orji is the kingmakers choice.

Chai, tinubu and goons will be needing loads of tissue papers, they've been scammed

GreatBoss:
As stupid as u are, I'm from Bonny.
What my father and grandfather told me is my history, not some useless Ibo on Nairaland.
All Ibani people are all Ijaws.
Go to hell and first stop calling fellow ibos outcast.
We don't have useless cultures like Ibo.
That have no regard and value for woman.

Lol, why are you so worked up and frustrated? Because your little landgrabbing fantasy has collapsed like a pack of badly arranged cards!

You think we don't know how you desperados have been operating by impersonating real aborigines? Any ijaw in Bonny is obviously a settler as have been proved beyond every reasonable doubt!

We Igbos have done our part by helping to create awareness to our Bonny and Opobo kits and kin about who they are. We know there are thousands of Bonny and Opobo natives who are educated and enlightened, they will definitely do more research and studies on their own!

It is not just the height of insult for foreigners to impose their language on aborigines and tell them to discard their mother tongue, spoken by their forefathers but also sacrilegious!

If the Abuas of Bayelsa that share slight similarities with you ijaws can muster the courage to come out boldly and tell the world that they are not Ijaws, is the proud people of Opobo and Bonny with rich history and absolutely nothing in common with Ijaws that won't do the needful?

Common, I can bet you it's just a matter of time before they stop all your criminal landgrabbing and assaults on their heritage.

EasternActivist:
Part of DIY crew.

So I went to submit my documents and was told to pay 10k for production fee aside my payment receipt.. I was dumbfounded o. I have to discharge for the time being...

Guys which way!?!

Awka precisely. 32/5

How much did you pay earlier for the DIY?

Enemies at work!
They really want to destroy this man kpata kpata. They're not happy he escaped the last time with his integrity so they now want to rubbish him.

If Jonathan couldn't make any serious headway when there was relative boom, is it now the country has become extensively bastardized that he will bring any meaningful improvement?

Is like this PDP wants to be following APC around like flies. Now it seems like APC has settled for Orji Kalu, why don't they chose Peter Obi to be their own flag bearer?

Anyways, I see a repeat of 1999 in 2023. I keep telling people that presidential candidates emerge in Nigeria by manipulation and nothing else. If you like bring Obama here, if the cabals don't want him, he won't make any headway.

Hahaha, I told these ijaws that their lies and propaganda won't stand the test of time. Now, the aborigines have started dismantling their "empire" that was built on quick sand!

I expect all other smart aborigines to take the same step the smart and courageous Abua people have taken already. Imagine, this Abua is in Bayelsa o

Aborigines in Bayelsa are distancing themselves from Ijaws yet they think they can force themselves on Opobo and Bonny that have nothing in common with them except recent manipulations.

Las Las, Ijaw will eventually return to its original 4 local governments before they began their illfated landgrabbing attempts

SpecialAdviser:
Below is my rating of these men. You can add your comments. Thank you

I was in Ebonyi State yesterday and I was shocked at what Umahi did. I have been seeing pictures on the social media until yesterday I was on ground. Below are some of things I saw in Ebonyi State:

1. Umahi is currently reconstructing and expanding road that leads into Abakiliki around that army barracks into an 8 lane highway.

2. I passed through Ohaozara and I saw the health university he is building there, a massive structure with a huge flyover along the highway close to it. I also saw a massive noodles factory he is constructing there. All the side roads in Ohaozara were fully constructed with cement and not even a single road there was bad!

3. All his roads and flyovers are strong, durable and aesthetically pleasing to behold. I saw them and remembered the ones Rochas built in Owerri and I became very angry at Rochas. How could he do this to Imo people?

4. Umahi ensures that virtually all the roads in Abakiliki has flowers and trees planted at the medians and the sides. They also paint the medians green to make it beautiful.

Unfortunately, there are fewer cars on the roads with lots of okada and Keke everywhere, and the city is yet to witness private sector investments.

Meanwhile, remove the Supreme Court imposter. Imo State does not have a governor yet.

JANK23H:
Check the footnote for the present names of those rivers

Instead of screenshot, copy that excerpt you posted earlier and paste it here so I can show you the exact sentence where the same Portuguese dude you are quoting stated that "Jos" people are inhabitants of the areas beyond Itshekiri and Uhrobo.

If you can't do that then I would have to stop engaging you at this point, since it's of no use.

You're obviously trying to push a wrong narrative at all costs.

JANK23H:
Stop repeating these gibberish.Hasn't struck you that since these debates and argument started,nobody from Opobo or Bonny has responded on Nairaland to counter the Ijaw claims?It has always been the other way round.

Haha, truth is bitter. The same nairaland where every ijaw from Bayelsa is now claiming to be from Bonny and Opobo?

The objective of this thread is purely for awareness purposes and that is why we are calling for facts and not mere fables!

Any REAL educated Bonny and Opobo man will definitely see this thread as thought provoking. Believe me, lots of things have been taken for granted already, so they will now look deeper and question certain things that doesn't make sense.

This is their own fight and not mine, because my heritage is 100% intact but theirs is being assaulted by invaders who want to wipe away their history and heritage and replace it with a foreign one!

JANK23H:
No,he did talk about the "Jos" as the inhabitants around the rivers of Cabo Fermosa in Brass to Rio de Sam Bento,Sant’ Ilefonso,Rio de Santa Barbara and Rio Pequeno.These rivers given Portuguese names extends most parts of the NigerDelta.

If you really want us to have an intellectual discussion, then you have to be honest with yourself.

The same excerpt you quoted stated that the "Jos" people are aborigines of the areas beyond Itshekiri and Uhrobo! So, if you claim that "Jos" people he was referring to are Ijaws then it means Ijaws migrated from there!

Why would you want to cherry pick from the same author the ones that favour you and disown the ones that doesn't?!

It smacks of desperation, and clutching at straws of a drowning man

GreatBoss:
Nairaland is not Bonny and Opobo go there and meet the people.
You guys online frustrations from now till forever changed nothing.

You don't seem to understand the power of social media in an information age. Pen is always mightier than the sword. Anybody that goes through this thread with an open mind will accept the fact that Bonny and Opobo are historically Igbos.

Nairaland still remains Nigeria's most popular forum and indigenes of Bonny and Opobo will definitely come across these Revelations, and they will truly know who they are!

Now that ijaw landgrabbers are desperately trying to coerce them into learning a foreign language which is not their heritage, such awareness will help to awaken their consciousness into resisting the ijaws.

Information is power, and what we are doing here should never be taken for granted!

JANK23H:
Just as the British called them Jo-men.

Okay, they may have mispronounced the name but the Pacheco dude emphasized that the "Jos" were aborigines of the areas beyond Itshekiri and Uhrobo. Are you saying that's where the Ijaws migrated from?

Igboid:
You might be right.
Ethiopians fought them off, but they are not a first world country today.
Maybe we could have succeeded in making sure they didn't put us together with a people like Yorubas and Hausa-Fulanis who we had and have nothing in common with, other than skin color.

That's the biggest evil they committed which points to the fact they only came to exploit us, and lumping us together made it much easier for logistics. Otherwise, why would a region that respected ethnicities which they used as basis to form nations but only to come to Africa and lump everyone together.

JANK23H:
The Portuguese account were written in Portuguese as expected,and so would not have had comparable circulation as that of the British.However,there have been recent translation and reviews of expedition into Africa by Duarte Pacheco Pereira and VALENTIM FERNANDES.

Attached is a screenshot of Captain Pereira's 15th century account,recognizing the presence of the Ijos or Jos as he called them then.Though some of his remarks were not complimentary,this could be attributed his strained relationship with the Ijos(Jos) as against the cordial trade partnership he had with the Benin kingdom.

This account should put to rest the notion that the Ijos were not original inhabitants of the NigerDelta.

Second shot:A Commentary on Duarte Pacheco Pereira's Account of the Lower Guinea Coastlands in his Esmeraldo De Situ Orbis, and on Some Other Early Accounts

First shot:Esmeraldo De Situ Orbis
by Pereira, Duarte Pacheco

I had to strain my eyes to read the screenshot but it actually doesn't prove anything about Ijaws. Firstly, Pacheco used the term "Jos" and he claimed the people dwelt beyond the Itshekiri and Uhrobo. Those who live in that area are the Isoko, Aboh and other Igbo groups in Anioma.

Igboid:
Good one.
If only they Learnt the process of making the barrels of gun earlier enough, maybe we could have made enough guns to halt the colonials from defeating us.

I doubt we would have been better off without experiencing colonialism. To me, it was a necessary evil.

Enduring civilization doesn't occur in isolation. The Europeans also learned a lot from the Chinese, Japanese and within countries in Europe as well. They perfected some of the inventions from far and near, and their central geographical location made it possible for them to have access to developments in both East and West of the world. These factors gave them a huge headstart into becoming a super power region.

Without them coming to Nigeria, we would have remained enmeshed in primitivity. Would we have developed the capacity to build universities, roads, modern brick houses etc without their expertise in the first place? They even helped to stop anarchy in many places such as North where Fulanis and Kanuris were committing widespread genocide as well as Yorubas who were killing themselves.

Also, countries they stayed the longest in Africa experienced more development and better planning than others, such as South Africa and Zimbabwe among others in South/East Africa.

I'm not saying they had our best interest at heart, on the contrary they actually came to exploit us but in so doing, they brought development!

Putindbutt:
funny you, if a chimamanda Adichie, who was born yesterday could write on the civil war with bias towards biafra and was widely celebrated, how much more an elderly historian with sources from both national and international archives.
The Portuguese account are more reliable than those of the British who arrived at a much later period.

The Portuguese account? So far, only the English account is in circulation and they date as far back as the 1700's, with facts and they all emphasize Bonny and Opobo people as being Igbos.

Can we see the Portuguese account as well, especially where it says anything otherwise?

Igboid:
Alagoa is a clown.
However, we have to write our own Igbophilic book on Bonny and Opobo and make sure it's published by a reputable body to counter him.

Then it will be 1-1.

The Europeans neutral colonial reports will now be the tie breaker which obviously favors us.

You would think that Ohanaeze is there to lead these kind of expedition. But for where?
Anyi kwuo Kita, odi ka anyi anaghi akwayelu ndi Okenye ugwu.

Ike gwuru.

I don't know what the problem of Ohanaeze is, but they're seriously a bunch of disappointment. The major reason why these indigenous Igbos of Bonny and Opobo seem to allowing all these ijaw nonsense is because they've remained isolated and vulnerable.

What stops them from allowing membership from Opobo and Bonny? The ikwerre they allowed, are they more Igboid than Opobo and Bonny?

A lot is at stake here and it must start at the intellectual realm to reverse all the damages done by the ijaw landgrabbers.

The Ohanaeze goons are more concerned about paying homages and collecting envelopes but abandon important matters!

Putindbutt:
I need to get a copy of this book. e finish work.

Alagoa is an ethnocentric irredentist who used propaganda and fables to promote ijaw landgrabbing attempts. So, don't waste your time reading his trash, it's unreliable and without substance.

I doubt any reasonable law court will leave documented evidences dating back to 1700's by neutral foreign explorers who had no vested interest only to consider biased reports of a local irredentist championing ethnocentric agenda.

GreatBoss:
Go claim them physical not online.


Even Ndoki come with Ijaw Republic.
They are Ibani-Ijaw people.
We've headed to the request of their leaders. We've added their areas to the Ijaw Republic map.

You guys must also not forget that I'm from Bonny LGA and we are Ibani Ijaw and never Ibo.

Go and claim us physical.
Then u see world war 3. We sink all Igbos in d ocean.
After all una b stone.

Funny guy, you don't know how ridiculous you sound with all these your "go and claim them physical".

I can see you all are sounding jittery already which is understandable, but if you think you have what it takes to stop Igbos after we defeat you in the law court, then all I can say is good luck to your fantasies

Ekealterego:
You are not far from the truth. One of those explorers in the 1800, mentioned how "Fulata" people (Fulani) were lying to ambush people around today's Benue or around Kwara or Kogi. I was like wow, just like today.
Concentrating on Igbo, these accounts by Beale Horton (1868) could summerise some of the Igbo character (either positive or negative).
It states that they could copy anything and reproduce it immediately.

it states that they were very competitive.

The fonts are small, but I hope you can see it.

I have been on nairaland since over 10 years but I must say that this thread is probably the most educative and expository thread I have ever seen on this forum. It's quite unfortunate that many people have believed a lie for years now without even making an effort to find out the truth.

Ijaws have absolutely no case in their landgrabbing attempts on Bonny and Opobo because these places have been proven beyond any reasonable doubt to be Igbo people since recorded history!!

We must keep this thread going while also bringing forth every material/exhibit we can lay our hands on. You're already doing that already, and we must take it from here and also intelligently go to Facebook groups of Bonny and Opobo people and present these facts to them. The reason is because many of them are unfortunately ignorant of these facts and their true heritage. The ijaws are now desperately exploiting this situation to impose a foreign language and culture on them. If the youths of Opobo and Bonny are made to know about these facts of their history, they would be more emboldened to challenge ijaw incursions into their land.

I bet you, there are many ijaw members of IYC and their other groups who are always alarmed and uncomfortable when their lies are exposed. Please if you have any link to Bonny and Opobo Facebook groups, you can share it here too so we can help to enlighten them.

Trying to force Bonny people to abandon the language of their forefathers and learn a foreign one is the height of desperation by the Ijaws and for them to even contemplate it shows the extent of brainwashing that has been going on.

Lol, no be afonja man again? He is living up to expectations as treacherous backstabbing people. Take them serious at your own peril

Ekealterego:
this is the experience by another explorer again. You are not far from the truth.
1. Experience from John Adam in 1823.

Interesting!!!

One thing I have come to understand is that people hardly change in their core values/worldview, probably because they're genetically wired to be like that. So, I don't think it's unique to Ijaws, because same way they've always had tendencies toward violent armed robbery/militancy and arson, is also same way Igbos have always had business acumen and superiority complex. I was shocked when when those foreign explorers emphasized that Igbos during those era believed they were of a superior ethnic stock.

Historically too, the Ibibios/Efiks aside the normal conflicts that was prevalent back then, are relatively peaceful just like they are today.

In the North, the Kanuris and Fulanis that are harrassing others all over Northern Nigeria through Boko Haram and herdsmen respectively, have always been like that too! These two groups would be terrorising all others on horsebacks. That's also what they're still doing today, albeit with modern tools like AK47 and bombs.

Also consider that in the past, while there was near anarchy in the Yorubaland and ironfist monarchy in Bini, Igboland was relatively peaceful with a decentralized authority. It was the peaceful coexistence in Igbo territories that largely resulted in huge population density.

My point is that, if you check all these factors, you will realize that every ethnic group have mostly retained their core identities over the centuries! This is the reason why I warn that anything that will make Igbos to share a smaller country with Ijaws must be stopped at all cost. Otherwise, we will end up having another South Sudan scenario in our hands.

If we must break away from Nigeria, then we must go alone or at most align with the Akwa-Cross that are peaceful in nature just like us. Otherwise, we remain in Nigeria and slug it out. I pity any group that will share country with Ijaws because it will be war without end.

"The past is key to the future"~~ George Santayana.

ThickSharon123:
No, that's not true. Igbos are liberal, there are two people who hate them only in Nigeria, the Draconian monarchial Hausa and Yoruba, and the land grabbing and ethnic identity cleansing Ijaws. These two are Nigeria's problem

Igbos don't want to give you heads way, I'm sure as soon as you're done with the Igbo lands, you'll move to Akwa Ibom and strip them off their identity, then move to Yoruba land and strip them off their identity too.
You people behave like the Fulani so much, I can see the correlation.

It didn't actually start today, foreigners as far back as the 1700's called them "teeth filling cannibals" who lived almost entirely on their boats, terrorising neighboring communities and market people. With violent robbery and murders as their way of life!

They have continued to exhibit such tendencies even till today!!

Alabo7978:
He didn't say so, your white man said so.

And by the way, the only reason ndoki even have some ties with Bonny was because Asimini married off his granddaughter Kambasa off to an ndoki man to Foster trade relations with the hinterlands, Kambasa didn't like that place, and once her father died she returned back to okolo-ama leaving her husband behind.
Your white man didn't even mention that because he didn't know how to communicate with the locals in the dialect so he just gather few facts to HURRIEDLY arrange a report or thesis.
If not for Kambasa marrying an ndoki man, the few IBO freemen wouldn't have been free.

They are showing you hardcore evidences with historical exhibits to back it up only for you to be recounting myths and legends.

So, when we finally meet at the International court of Justice, these fables is what you will be regurgitating?

My condolences in advance