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alBHAGDADI:
Your blindness and love for wrong things has enable tircksters like Freeze to deceive you and your kind easily. Look at the way he is convienently quoting the LAW to back Linda Ikeji and her wrong ways. That is the same LAW he is accusing Daddy GOs of using to deceive people to collect tithe from them. He is now using the same law to soothe himself cos it involves a friend of his, Linda Ikeji.

He even quoted a law of Moses in the old testament to back up his claims. We are no more under the law cos we have been bought from it with the Blood of Jesus. If the law required that a man can have sex with a woman he is betrothed to, such is now a sin in the age of grace which God gave us the moment Jesus Christ died and resurrected.

Romans 7:6

But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.


If Freeze can conveniently quote a portion of the law when it soothes him, then he should also apply the below verse to himself as he is currently sleeping with another man's wife who is not yet divorced.

Leviticus 20:10

"'If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.


Look at the way he cunning twisted the meaning of sexual immorality and called it harlotry. In his clever mind, all those that translated the Greek word to mean sexual immorality in all Bible translations are wrong, he is the only one right. And some freaks will believe him on this.

He even boldly claims Jesus Christ and his Disciples didn't change the Jewish marriage customs which is grounded in the LAW of Moses. If he said betrothed couples who are not yet married can have sex, then can he explain what the below verse is saying when it said ''to avoid sexual immorality, each man should have his own WIFE which means marriage, not get betrothed to have sex''?


1 Corinthians 7:2
But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.


The JEWISH LAW might allow betrothed couples to have sex till they get married, but we Christians are not under such laws as explained by the above verse. We are not under Judaism. We are under the law of Christ. We are Christians. Imagine how useless ladies will become if they were still under the LAW. Once a man is tired of having sex with his betrothed lady, he will just dump her and move to get betrothed to another one. That means ladies will now be passed around pretty much like what we see today. But Jesus has freed us from such archaic ways by telling us to flee from sexual immorality. The Church doesn't practice betrothal. Neither has it ever preached sex between engaged couples. It only preaches sex in marriage and that those who are not married should flee sexual immorality which is clearly premarital sex, while married couples should flee from adultery.

Hebrew 13:14

4 Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.


1 Corinthians 6:18-20

Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body


1 Thessalonians 4:3-5

For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God;


Notice how the below verse advises marriage before one can have sex if he or she cannot exercise control.

1 Corinthians 7:8-9
To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single as I am. But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

You are not correct despites the number of likes you got, the reason is that all these passages in the Bible you quoted is talking about sexual sin and fornication and not about marriage. so you problem is definition of marriage. Marriage is not when people go to church and do wedding, that is not marriage. Marriage is contracted when two adults ie man and woman in case of Nigeria, agree to become husband and wife. Other things you see is the formalization of the marriage. Be it trad wedding, church or court wedding. And you cannot claim you know all the stories behind Linda's pregnancy. That they have not made their story public does not mean they are on the wrong track. Lets get the whole info first before passing judgment on matters we know little on nothing about.

zurielsam:
Viola-nuela Echebima, i dont understand this name is she afonja

She is Igbo girl, finished from Federal Girls Owerri... She is a school mate to my cousin.

Daddy Freeze has scored more points than all of you together, he states the Bible reference for all the points raised, you guys are attacking him , with insults, emotion and abuse without countering his argument with the Bible chapters and verses. God can use anything to start a revival, is not in your place to judge Daddy Freeze, let God do the judging. If you cannot show me in the Bible where Jesus or the early apostles received tithe, then don't tell me about it,because i am not under the Jewish law.

Even in today's Israel, tithing has been abolished because the Levitical tribe that collect tithe is one of the lost tribes of Israel. If we must pay tithe according the law of Moses, then we must keep the Sabbath holy and fulfill all other requirements of the law. Jesus has fulfill the requirements of the law, and every giving must be by love and as a man purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of a necessity.... go and look for the meaning of these words by Apostle Paul.

I stand with Daddy Freeze, proof me wrong with the Bible.

Good bless you and happy Sunday!

SUNDAY SERMON: THE TRUTH ABOUT TITHING


I came across this piece on a Whatsapp page and it so represented my views on tithing that I could have written it myself. Please enjoy the read!

The Trial of Pastor Jones (Author unknown)

Judge: Mr. Jones you have been charged with multiple counts of extortion. Your crime spree covers 20 years and thousands of victims. You have defrauded people out of their money with fear and manipulation, telling them they had to tithe 10% of their income as per the LAW to your Regd. organization (called Church) and that God would bless them if they did. You also told them that if they didn't tithe God would curse them.

How do you plead?

Mr. Jones: I plead not guilty your Honor, I have done nothing wrong. I have only preached what the Bible says. In the Bible Abraham tithed to Melchizedek and God blessed him for his faithful giving. The Bible even says he was rich in silver and gold.

Judge: Is it not true, Mr. Jones, that in Genesis Chapter 13 verse 2 the Bible says Abraham was rich with livestock, silver and gold?

Mr. Jones: Yes, you are exactly right, that's what I just told you.

Judge: Ok, we read about Abraham being a rich man in chapter 13 but it is not until Genesis chapter 14 that we read about Abraham's tithe to Melchizedek. So Abraham was already a rich man before he tithed to Melchizedek, wasn't he?

Mr. Jones: Yes, I suppose you are right.

Judge: So his riches were not the result of his tithe to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: No.

Judge: Mr. Jones, you also say God blessed him for his faithful giving. How many times is it recorded that Abraham gave tithes to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: Well, just once.

Judge: So the Bible never said that he gave week after week?

Mr. Jones: No it does not.

Judge: Where did Abraham get the things that he gave to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: Well the Bible says it was from the plunders of war?

Judge: So you are telling me that he gave from the plunders of war?

Mr. Jones: Yes that's what the Bible says.

Judge: So he basically took things that were not really his in the first place and gave them as the tithe?

Mr. Jones: That is what the scripture seems to indicate.

Judge: Is it recorded that he ever took anything from his own possessions and tithed them to Melchizedek or anyone else?

Mr. Jones: I guess not

Judge: You guess not, you are a teacher and you are only guessing, is it or is it not written that he ever gave any of his own possessions as a tithe to anyone?

Mr. Jones: No it is not written anywhere that I have seen.

Judge: Is it recorded as to what exactly Abraham did give Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: I believe it says plunder?

Judge: So plunder could be any number of things?

Mr. Jones: Yes, I suppose

Judge: It could have been food, cattle, sheep, the people's possessions or any number of things. It does not say it was all money correct?

Mr. Jones: Yes you are correct, it does not say just money

Judge: As a matter of fact money is never mentioned in that account at all is that correct Mr. Jones?

Mr. Jones: Yes your Honor, money is never mentioned just goods and food and people.

Judge: So there is no way you can say with any certainty that Abraham in fact gave Melchizedek any money at all?

Mr. Jones: That is right.

Judge: I only have one last question for you
Mr. Jones, did God command Abraham to give this plunder tithe to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: No, it appears that he did this voluntarily.

Judge: So are you trying to tell me that because of this voluntary, one time gift by Abraham, that may not have even consisted of money, all Christians everywhere are obligated to bring 10% of their weekly paycheck to a local Regd.Organization-church?
Considering all the evidence I would say you are beyond any shadow of a doubt guilty of deliberately trying to make the scriptures says things they have not said for financial gain.

Mr. Jones: Ok your Honor, I can see how foolish I was to try and use the story of Melchizedeck to try and get the people to tithe money. But there are many other verses that will support my belief on tithing. Jacob said he would give God 10% of everything. I think we should follow his example.

Judge: Let's see what Jacob said. Please read the verse you are talking about for me Mr. Jones.

Mr. Jones: In Genesis chapter 28 starting at verse 20 it says. Jacob vowed a vow, saying, "If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and clothing to put on, so that I come again to my father's house in peace, and Yahweh will be my God, then this stone, which I have set up for a pillar, will be God's house. Of all that you will give me I will surely give the tenth to you."

Judge: You said we should follow Jacobs example, is that right Mr. Jones?

Mr. Jones: Yes that is right, he vowed to give a tenth and we should too.

Judge: Let me point out one thing for you Mr. Jones, Jacob said he would Give God a tenth, ONLY if He blessed him first. So as you said previously, we should follow Jacob's example and tell God that we will only give him a tenth if he blesses us first. Is that right?

Mr. Jones: That is not what I meant.

Judge: What did you mean then?

Mr. Jones: That we should give God a tenth also.

Judge: There you go again, trying to make the scripture say what you want it to say for your benefit. I would also like you to tell me the scriptures that say that Jacob kept his vow with God. I would also like to know where he gave the tenth to because there was no temple or levites to give it to at that time.

Mr. Jones: I can not think of any scriptures that say where or if he ever tithed after his vow.

Judge: It seems fairly obvious to me that Jacob made a voluntary and conditional vow to God. This in no way can be used as a reason to demand others to bring their income to you or any other place.

Mr. Jones: I do have a few more scriptures that I believe will show that we are supposed to tithe.

Judge: You have not said anything yet to convince me one little bit that people are obligated to tithe money to the local organizational institutions -churches and that you were justified in what you were doing. You have taken scripture and misapplied it to your beliefs and for your gain. But in order to be fair to you I will allow you to present more evidence.

Mr. Jones: In the book of Malachi chapter 3 starting at verse 8 it says, will a man rob God? yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, In what have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. Bring ye all the tithes into the store-house, that there may be food in my house, and prove me now with this, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. So you see your Honor, we are commanded to bring the tithes into the storehouse or God will curse us.

Judge: Answer me this Mr Jones, Who was God Speaking to here?

Mr Jones: To the People of Israel

Judge: Can you please read Malachi 2: 1 Please Mr Jones

Mr Jones: Now This command is for you O PRIEST !!

Judge: Did God stop talking to the Priest in Chap. 3, Mr Jones?

Mr Jones: No your Honor!

Judge: Answer me this Mr. Jones, were you aware that God never required anyone to tithe money?

Mr. Jones: No I didn't know that.

Judge: The tithe spoken of here was always edible products never money.

Mr. Jones: Well your Honor that is because they didn't have money at the time so God had them tithe food instead.

Judge: Not true, money is first mentioned in Genesis and Malachi was written hundreds of years later. God had them bring food in so that the levites, the fatherless and widows may eat and be satisfied. The tithe was used mainly to take care of people. Also notice it says in the verse you quoted, that there may be food in my house. The food was the tithe. How do you completely overlook the word food in those verses?

Mr. Jones: I don't know

Judge: I also want you to know that these verses speak to nation under the Old Testament law. As you may or may not know Jesus fulfilled the law, it is no longer binding. Once again you have tried to completely take a scripture out of context and apply it to others for your benefit. Can you give me a single scripture where God changed the tithe from food to money?

Mr. Jones: I do not know of any.

Judge: So if God never changed it from food to money who did?

Mr. Jones: Man must have.

Judge: So far all you have done Mr. Jones, is take Old Testament scriptures out of context and try to apply it to believers under the New Covenant. Is this all the proof you have?

Mr. Jones: I do have a New Testament scripture that will show that Jesus told us to tithe.

Judge: Ok let me hear it.

Mr. Jones: Jesus said in Matthew 23:23 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint, dill, and cumin, and have left undone the weightier matters of the law: justice, mercy, and faith. But you ought to have done these, and not to have left the other undone. See Jesus said we should be tithing.

Judge: Let me ask you a question, who was Jesus talking to?

Mr. Jones: The scripture says the Scribes and Pharisees.

Judge: Are you a scribe or Pharisee?

Mr. Jones: Of course not.

Judge: Jesus also said in that passage, you have left undone the weightier matters of the law. Are we under the law Mr. Jones?

Mr. Jones: No.

Judge: Why not?

Mr. Jones: Because Jesus fulfilled it.

Judge: When did Jesus fulfill the law?

Mr. Jones: When He was crucified.

Judge: So the law was still in effect until Jesus death?

Mr. Jones: That is correct.

Judge: I think you know where I am going with this don't you?

Mr. Jones: Yes your Honor. Since Jesus had not yet been crucified and the law was still binding the Pharisees were required to tithe because it was part of the law. Once the law ended, tithing ended also.

Judge: I want you to take a look at that verse again. Also tell me, what were they tithing?

Mr. Jones: The scripture says it was mint, dill and cumin.

Judge: Is money mentioned?

Mr. Jones: No it was not.

Judge: Once again it was edible products that they were tithing, not money. Do you have anything else you would like to say?

Mr. Jones: If people only tithed edible products like the scripture says, then how would the church survive? We have our mortgage payment, utility bills, staff salary and a host of other things that we have to pay each week. We depend on the money from the people.

Judge: By "church" you mean your organization isn't it Mr Jones ?
-The need does not justify the means. In other words, just because you have all these debts does not give you the right to twist and manipulate scripture and cause people to give under fear of being cursed by God to meet your needs. Does It Mr Jones?
In closing, let me recap a few things for you Mr. Jones.
-The tithe was never money;
-The tithe was an Old Testament law, which is no longer binding. When it was binding the tithe was used to take care of people, not buildings.
- We are under a new covenant now.
Paul instructs the Corinthian believers how they are to give. He says in second Corinthians chapter 9 verse 7, Let each man give according as he has determined in his heart; not grudgingly, or under compulsion; for God loves a cheerful giver. So each believer is supposed to give as he or she has determined in his or her heart.
If they determine to Give 10% well and good, If they keep aside some every week to meet this more better.If you are trying to make people give under the threat of being cursed or any other reason even blessing, you are wrong. Someone can not give cheerfully if they are being forced to give. If 'your church can not survive on freewill offerings maybe God is not part of your church at all.
Mr Jones, do you intentionally put your people under a Curse or a Bondage?

Mr Jones: Of Course not !!

Judge: Can you Read in context Gal 3:10-11: For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them ....
AND
Gal 5:1-4 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage....

Mr. Jones: I never realized all these things, I have always been taught that we had to tithe money to the local church and that is what I have always taught. I can see now that I was completely wrong. I did not study the scripture for myself, I only took mans word for it.
Yes ' am guilty. I will not teach this error anymore.
Sentencing....... All Arise .....

Copied!!!

It is chidimma not chidinma.
In Igbo, N and M are not found in a word.
Mma is a word.
But can only be seen in a 'phrasal-word' like oMe-Na-ala.
N and M behave like vowel but they are not vowel in Igbo language (ie myiri-udaume).

Please the correct spelling is CHIDINMA. Nma is good/beauty in Igbo. mma is wrong spelling.
N and M are found in Igbo words like Nmecha,nma,nmadu,nmacha etc. Don't mislead people with your wrong Igbo lexical lecture.
I have A1 in Igbo language, go and ask WAEC lol!

Let even assumed that Davido and co are innocent, then why did they dumped the body and ran away? why did they took his phone and deleted all the guys posts, pictures etc that night with Davido, why didn't they contact any of his family members. Why did Davido lied to to the police?

These questions are what will incriminate Davido and co. We are watching......

All hail biafrans...... Nobody is ready to die for Nigerian matter, while biafrans are willing to lay down their lives for their cause and freedom. I think Nigerians only discuss their matter on social media....facebook and twitter. That is why Hausa/Fulani would continue to lord it over you.

able20:
Na the same people delta or abia na igbo

Deltans become Igbos when they commit crimes, but when Nigerians want to take their oil they remind them that they are Niger Deltans and not Igbos. I see hypocrisy everywhere!

I thought this man is a lawyer and a senator and he is speaking like an illiterate. How does demanding for freedom through the invocation of UN carter on self determination amount to war? So people that have not seen war should surrender their lives and destiny to Hausa/Fulani, to be raped,butchered and killed at will and islamised?. Let me educate the illiterate senator that Biafras are exercising their freedom as granted by UN for self determination. We are not fighting any war, this war now is brain,pen and paper..

Just ran a check on the so- called Mazi Ifeanyi Igwe and no result on google, Facebook etc. Nigeria is just a funny country.....this group only exist on the pages of newspapers.

We can't blame the VP as he is a good student of the nepotic president of Nigeria Buharia. My concern for the so called northern elites is why didn't they speak out against Buhari's nepotic appointments, why speak now against the VP? Who is obviously learning fast from his Oga Buhari?

this is interesting, all the Nigerian gold medals are won by wise guys from the East. is it a case of coincidence or what? Igbo people are just too much..... lets just give it to them... sentiments apart, great success is in their blood! congrats!!!!

bodeloja:
No am a Rivers Man. Also, something does not quite add up here. I here London, i hope say no be papers arrangement be this.
Maybe she want UK residence permit. Marriage these dayz is not the same, Economics is a major factor.

Rivers man indeed! pls which tribe is rivers man.... i am a learner pls.. i see some people have no root... idiots

Zico5:
We the south west will always maintain our dignity no matter how. We will never support onesided government like that of Gej and that is why we voted him out. The comments of some on this thread show how myopic and selfcentered some of them are. Nigeria belong to us all not to the few privileged. I wonder what the fate of the 5% will be with their current orientation. Their anger will only compound their woes.

why are you having a sleepless night for another man's wahala.... it shows how deep hatred has eaten you up. get a life!

betterABIAstate:
Igbos sabi look for trouble OK

when people were naming their goat in this country Jonathan, i was cool and we all laughed it off, now it has become an offense to name a love dog buharia or whatever lai mohammed..... Nigerians and double standard are 6 & 5.. Aunty Ada jari how is the lying dog doing? Hope never disappoints lol. what goes around comes around!

This is just the beginning as thousand of my country men are travelling in droves to Asian countries for drug related biz because they want to make it big, big ,big and paint the whole village and town red with drug money,with all the goodies that comes with it.

Such news would always be around us until we decide to develop the right philosophy that values, godly characters, principles weigh far more than money.

I am definitely not worried about the untimely death of our country men in drug related punishment in a far Indonesia, because they all knew the consequences of their actions. my worry and this should bother any rational being of the endless killings,gruesome murder of Nigerians in their country: Killing of Christians by blood-thirsty Islam faithfuls; the continuous upsurge in Fulani killings across the country unchecked; the licensed Hausa killings of the Igbos and Southerners, and the numerous tribal and ethnic killings.While we close our eyes to this home injustice and wickedness we are so loud and vocal in calling an independent country of Indonesia and reminding them of human rights with plea for clemency, while the wickedness at home can continue to flourish.

Federal property of Ghana..... so sexy!

Please, how is our Edible Catering?

Madam i will be happy, and so many others too, to see you and your husband back again. Pls forgive him for whatever he has done.

Karkarash: only if nokia had partnered with android instead of windows..they would have been a force to reckon with and with their good batteries again..

this gadget would have been lovely running on android.however please what is the price?

JW is a false religious organisation, starting with their name: Gentile nations answering Jehova witnesses. The only access a non-jewish person has to Jehova is through Christ , but they denied the Lordship of Christ and now answer JW. Jesus said:Acts 1:8 KJV
[8] But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Either you are a witness of Christ or that of Satan: the only people that God appeared to is the Israelite, no other nation.

sambroose: Only for naija you go see Market women dey chase Lecturers ..smh

Naija a funny country indeed![color=#000099][/color]